I'm a faggot born into a household which earns six figures. We're not rich or anything, but for some reason, I suspect that richfags are not much happier than people who earn enough than people who earn enough to live comfortably. Yeah, rich people can afford Gucci handbags, but really, they're just handbags and I can afford handbags as well. I reckon that a lot of people romanticize living a materialistic lifestyle - over time you will get sick of it and there's not way you will feel 10/10 every single day.
Almost every one I know desires to be rich. Girls want to marry rich guys, guys would love to own a Ferrari or Porsche, and little girls want to be princesses. But being wealthy never appealed to me that much. I live frugally and I just want to be happy in life.
No, it's not odd. Money is a necessity but if it drives your fuel for feeling happy, you're a fucking idiot. Yeah, it's cool to live comfortably, but it's good to feel happy when you know how to live.
Pretty sure "happiness" tops out at about $85,000. The rest is gravy. However, have you ever been lower-middle class or less? You can live frugally, but that's different from living with 2 roommates in an apartment costing you $300 a month. Are you working? Do you have an income? A working person's thoughts on wealth are going to be different than an unemployed student's.
This is probably true, but it affords you to do these things casually. Some people can only do them after working hard and saving. That's not to say your family doesn't work hard, just that proportionately speaking, their efforts are rewarded more. Having a 60 inch TV is nice, but you're still watching the same shows or playing the same shit. But there are just little things that help you feel better about your life. Cars are very much a symbol of status, owning a nice boat is something a lot of people can't afford, having to pick and choose what you want to buy instead of having the ability to just get things on demand is a big difference. I think it's less about big purchases and more about quality of life.
Did you read what I've posted?
> I suspect that richfags are not much happier than people who earn enough to live comfortably
These people who "earn enough to live comfortably" are not people working at minimum wage jobs.
Because when it's not being given to you by your parents, and you have to worry about paying for yourself and even a wife and children rather than sucking the teats of mommy, you probably won't be thinking the same thoughts you're thinking now. You don't have to worry about money because it's guaranteed to you. When it's not guaranteed, you'll start wanting to make as much of it as you can.
But finding a stable job which allows you to live comfortably is not that same as finding a job which makes you super rich. It's not that finding a stable, well-paid job is impossible for me.
Raising a family is different IMO as you need to earn enough to cover the living expenses of more people instead of just yourself.
And really, nothing is a guarantee anymore. There can be a financial crisis in the future and a lot of well-off people can lose their jobs.
its not the material aspect of being rich which is appealing. its the fact that if you're rich you have the opportunity to do anything without being bound. if you have no money you can't do anything and you are basically a slave to a shitty job but if you are rich you can stop working if you want and live off the money you have earned. also you can get your children a better education.
Try living in a poor area for a year and trying to socialise with the people. Over all it is more beneficial to be rich. its stupid if people want to be rich purely for the material reasons but that is just one of the benefits.
yeah. also, you are more exposed to crime if you live in a poor area. the greatest benefits to being rich is basically more time and opportunities. the education in poor areas is horrible too and you won't even want to socialise with them.
No man...its not having the worry of "...fuck i hope i have enough money to keep my house." "I hope I have ebough money to pay the gas bill".
The stresses that way on a poor or single income family are through the roof. Having money = No stress = Better quality of life. Yea youre right...you can still be lonely, unhappy, depressed...but really I dont think you know what its kiie to struggle to live. Ever eat cereal with a mixture of water and canned milk? Ever eat nothing but canned pickles and tuna for days on end? Ever catch your parents crying alone in the dark because theyre so fucking stressed out they break down? Its all related to money. Being successful or born into wealth is a blessing. Dont take it for granted because being poor fucking SUCKS
My first thread compares the upper class with people who earn enough to live comfortably. I didn't mention anything about the lower class. No shit sherlock, earning minimum wage sucks.
I have rich cousins.
The only real difference for them is that, after the usual college grind, their father's connections helped them get the jobs they wanted. Those jobs weren't very high-paying at first, but they've developed into pretty good shit.
Also, if you base happiness on relationships, my 35 year old male cousin never had a successful long-term relationship until about 31, and he only got married last year.
My 29 year old Female cousin also only just got her first serious adult BF.
I feel like a lot of the time people have kids to give themselves something to do and they are not actually prepared mentally for the challenge. most people work jobs they hate so they can bring up children who follow the same path. People think its all fun and games having kids but really its one of the most difficult tasks if you want to do it properly.
Class IMO has more to do with how you live than your income. I work in coal for $172k but live in a 30yo fibro house in the middle of nowhere. No coal miner below management level I would consider upper class
Watchout philosophy coming through.
Humans are adaptive creatures. As such, as long as our basic needs are met, the amount of resources we have doesn't signifigantly affect the amount of happiness we experience. This works in regards to other needs aswell. For example having no friends makes one very unhappy. However, the difference between having, lets say 5 and 25 friends is nowhere near as large as between 0-5. This is regardless of how intimate those relationships in question are.
Because of this, even among the 1% people suffer from depression and unhappiness. While people who live in warzones and poverty don't live in a constant state of despair.
>Pretty sure "happiness" tops out at about $85,000
The most recent studies I'm aware of put it at $75,000, but they're about a decade old. Inflation being what it is, I wouldn't be surprised to see it top out at $85,000 nowadays.
Money really doesn't buy happiness. It can be used solve people's problems, and THAT can make them happier. But there are limits to what money can do even in that area.
Of course it's obvious, but people still forget it (or lose sight of it) all the time. I'm as guilty of that as anyone else. Large parts of modern political and economic thought depend on people forgetting it, then remembering, and then forgetting again. And so it bears repeating in discussions like these.
Nah you're fine. I want to be rich because I see it as a competition with my parents and I want to outperform them (there's a complex somehwere there I'm sure),but my gf has absolutely no desire to be wealthy. She of course doesn't want money problems, but she's totally fine with a small house living a quiet life with road trips here and there.