Dragon Ball Super

He's a big guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Q277C9QCo
anyone else get turned on by this scene? i don't know why but something about it was just very arousing

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>>155774546
UUUU

>>155774459
>>155774459
>>155774459
too late

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>>155774569
fuck that freeza guy

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(laughs)

>>155774990
Can't argue with that.

>>155774990
WHERE IS VOL 3?

>>155774990
How will toeifags ever recover?

>>155774779
kek

>>155774496
Jiren-sama needs to be squashed desu

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>>155775243
By ignore that and continuing to watch the anime?

>>155775243
By accepting the fact that Manga has already won and accepting our new Shueisha overlords.

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>NO MORE WARMING IT THIS IS THE REAL DEAL!

>>155776747
>Shueisha overlords
quick rundown?

What happened to Vegeta's tail?
SS monkey god when?

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>>155776927
shit filename
OUT!

Can a kind anon post the gif that has a montage of Goku spamming ki blasts in DBS?

>>155777445
What's the significance of this?I just remember the file name was 'bad animation' but there was much worse animation in super, especially that Beerus x Goku fight

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>>155777445
Retard
save things if you want them in future

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>>155776930
Shueisha established the Dragon Ball Room which acts as a franchise headquarters for everything Dragon Ball related.
"It is an interdepartmental collaboration to support and expand upon the Dragon Ball franchise."
"in practical terms you can think of it as handling both the rights and editing. It’s a new experiment to have a department that only thinks about Dragon Ball.”

"“they decided to establish a new section for contacting Toriyama-sensei and other things to keep the franchise going indefinitely”.

That raises a question. The TV anime Dragon Ball Super currently airing Sunday mornings is a new series based on Akira Toriyama’s original draft, and is supposed to be running in V-Jump (with artwork by Toyotaro). Iyoku’s answer: “Me and everyone else in charge of Dragon Ball Super are on the V-Jump editorial department and also work at the Dragon Ball Room.” Unpacking that, “The Dragon Ball Room is part of the rights department, and was originally conceived as an integration of the V-Jump editorial department and the rights department. Both were doing the same job, so they decided to do it together.”

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/10/14/shueisha-establishes-new-dragon-ball-room-initiative-support-future-content/

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2017/01/05/yahoo-japan-discusses-dragon-ball-room-initiative-with-section-chief-akio-iyoku/

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>>155777599
Thank you kind anon

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>>155774569
Why do people like subs over dubs again?

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In case you forgot.

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>>155777000
>>155777599
>>155777699
>>155777700
Very good thread

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>>155777695
>[Akira Toriyama, the original author, commented that, “I was wanting to keep this old series alive and kicking even in the modern day with help from Shueisha’s excellent staff, so for me this team is dependable and a real godsend. It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!"]

>Doesn't even mention the staff of Toei.
JUST

>>155777746
>only 24 planets from all those galaxies have life

>>155777812
Did it take you this long to realize DB threads are cancer?

Why is goku white , yet zamasu take his body and turns into a Mexican cosplay?

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>>155778862
Saiyan were always meant to be darker
Zamasu and his godly ki transcended reality itself and made a more true and better version of saiyan goku

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>Roshi is relevant for the first time since Piccolo saga

Feels so good. I just wish the tournament wasnt so short.

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>>155778862
That's what happens you directly adapt Toriyama's concept art.
Saiyans were originally tanned in the manga.

Who has the best boy pussy in the show? Gohan from the Saiyan saga to the Cell games is pretty

>>155779723
history of trunks era trunks

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>>155774587
>dead

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>>155780376
>saved

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>>155780429
for how long?

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>>155780449
don't underestimate me

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>>155780491
I could say the same
best of luck

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WHERE'S THE LEAKS

B O O G I E
A
C
K

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So Chiaotzu is not participating because he wants to stay back and take care of the dojo I assume

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>>155780692
Right here

>>155780692
down the hall and to the left

>>155780963
Goku consistantly called Krillin his best friend.

>>155780963
>implying somebody can't have more than one friend
show me one instance of goku calling anybody in that image his best friend besides krillin
go ahead
i'll wait
fucking autist

If Goku and Krillin's power levels were the same (let's say Krillin's base is 150 million and SSJ Goku is 150 million base Goku being 3 million), who would win? Goku can only go SSJ1 but he can use his other non transformation techniques including teleportation.

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>>155781129
Anytime a fight comes that close on power the bigger stronger guy wins which is why Goku always beats Vegita despite the times they were close in power. He's just a bigger guy and that's also the reason Raddits destroyed Goku in battle.

>>155781239
If Raddits trained the same way Goku did he'd be on a completely different level and if Vegita really wanted to beat out Goku he'd gather the D balls and wish to be bigger. Simple as that.

>>155781239
You obviously haven't been paying attention to the series because Goku has never won against Vegeta.
>in their 1st fight Vegeta completely fucked Goku which is why he needed Yajirobe, Krillin, and Gohan to finish Vegeta off
>this is also why Goku let Vegeta live. Goku wanted a rematch.
>in the Buu arc Goku could have won using SSJ3 but chose not to
>Majin Vegeta landed a cheap shot on Goku making Vegeta technically win
>in the Super manga, base Vegeta was wrecking Goku until Goku started teleporting
>Vegeta complained and went SSB
>both went SSB and stopped fighting

>>155781334

Goku and Vegeta are both in the God-tier right now. Shenron can't do anything beyond the power of it's creator, and Dende is out of his fucking league to start making Vegeta stronger

>>155781372
Also Goku was pretty much never going all out in a lot of those fights and Vegita pretty much always was. I like Vegita but what you're saying isn't true.

>>155779723
You can just tell Zamasu has a pampered boy pussy.

>>155781028
>implying that I wasn't solely trying to fool leakfag with the dimensions of that irrelevant picture.
You misunderstood and are angry for no reason

>>155781406
All he'd have to do is make Vegita taller and he could gain the muscle himself. It's literally nothing that big but still impossible for Vegita to do himself. Shenron could fucking easily make him bigger.

>>155781414
>Goku wasn't going all out in their first fight
No
In their second fight Goku was going all out in SSJ2 form but he didn't go SSJ3.
In their fight in the Super manga, neither were really trying.

>>155781453

Size has absolutely fuckall to do with power. Muscled have fuckall to do with power. This has been demonstrated countless times in the show.

>>155781129
Krillin would cut Goku in half.

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I hope for one episode before the tournament showing U9 saying goodbye to everyone they care about.

It still doesn't feel like Goku being a dick has been hammered home enough yet.

>>155781502
No it's actually not! Anytime power levels are similar the big guy will destroy the little guy,

>>155781523
No, if their power level was the exact same Goku would still demolish him because of the size difference.

>>155781530
>the kaioshin is a jew while the hakaishin is a pacifist
>supposed champions are furries

It's a shitty universe.

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Why are they so jealous of Universe 7 so much

>>155781530
>giving them a chance to live is being a dick

cool

>>155780963
shit image. Krillin was always his best friend.
>B-but I want to join in the meme bawwww
Faggot.

>>155782196
They know Goku is stronger than everyone but Jiren the ayy

So how would they pull off the goku is evil thing they already know this tournament is life or death what could goku possibly do in the middle of it to really seem like a bad guy

>>155782681
>ARRAAAH!
>I WILL NOT LET YOU SAVE YOUR WOORRRLLLDD!
>*Breaks his limit*

>>155782484
Got it. Will devote life and post next time too.

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>>155782681
Someone doesn't seem to mind about him being evil, so at least there are 10 less participants to gank up on U7.

>>155783148
I wouldn't dismiss her off so easily.

>They are all going to be playable in the next game.
>All the Angels and Gods of Destruction are going to have generic watered down copies of Beerus' and Whis' attacks.

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>>155781372
> Goku has never beaten Vegeta
> Krillin beat Vegeta twice

>>155774569
I like how he just picks up a crab in the middle of it and starts eating.

BIG GREEN DED?

>>155775084
It will probably come out soon.

>>155774569
This version is better:

https://youtu.be/XZJ_P1DhGrw

>>155774569
replace vegeta with smugpupfag and would watch over and over again

>All these months and months of prep for the tournament
>The actual thing will only be 2 episodes (plus an extra episode when only Goku and Jiren are left, since the tournament will go into overtime)

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Why do people think Goku's stupid? TFS memed up Goku's "stupidity" too hard. Just read some of the stuff he said throughout the series.

>[When Frieza kills Vegeta] Goodbye, Vegeta. You’re not as cold-hearted as you believed yourself to be. A heart of stone can’t shed tears like you did. You must have been holding them back your whole life. I’m the only one left. I think I understand you now. You weren’t grieving over your own death, or because our home planet was destroyed. You were grieving because he turned you into what he wanted you to be. You never had a chance to be anything else. Well I still respect you. I know you made a lot of mistakes, but now I see that it wasn’t all your fault. You had the fiery will of a Saiyan. Please share that with me now, ’cause I need it. Thank you for saving my son’s life and buying enough time for me to recuperate. I’ll do my best to carry out your wish. (to Frieza) It’s true. Vegeta’s right. You have no honor. For him. And for everyone else you’ve destroyed, I am going to finish you.

Is it because they're stupid and can't comprehend the 11D multiversal chess based Son kun is playing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT3KORB7dIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO-xs_quFEM

Why has every thread devolved into unfunny copypasta spam now

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>>155786025
Goku is terrifyingly smrt

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>>155786083
demand and supply

>ctrl f "Goku"
>40 results

his name is KAKAROT

>>155786025

Dubbed he is smart. Subbed he is a retard.

>>155785536
But wouldn't he be stronger than Freeza, and why do you want to see him hurt so much?

>>155786025
He's a battle genius, but a dumbass in day to day things, though he's starting to learn since he can drive now

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>>155785536
Based anon.

>>155786342
It's a ryona fetish, some people here love or hate him, then there are some who pretend to hate him but masturbate to the idea of seeing him hurt or killed and you can tell if they get into graphic detail about it so the haters become a muddy pool of fetishists and angry anons.

>>155786538
t. smugpupfag

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>>155784837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tum1P5jm_so

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Why do I feel like Gohan is going to be the most boring person to watch in Tournament of Power?

All members have something interesting going on with them, except for Gohan.

Goku - god ki, kaioken, instant transmission
Vegeta - god ki, final flash
Majin Buu - regeneration, magic, body manipulation
Androids - infinite stamina
Tienshinhan - solar flare, mafuba, tri-beam
Krillin - kienzan, solar flare x100
Roshi - mafuba and possibly a lot of different and interesting techniques, strategist
Piccolo - limb regeneration, stretchy arms, makanko-blablabla, strategist

Gohan - uhhh he's pretty strong? I guess? Not really since there's Goku and Vegeta.

Fuck I hope they either give him some cool new move or transformation, because I predict his fights are going to be a pain to sit through (Gohan vs Lavender was so boring).

>>155786538
i get off to it and pretend to hate him otherwise i dont really care

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>>155786788
>Tienshinhan

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>>155785833
>he doesn't know how dragonball time works

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>>155785833
>>155786944

>>155786538
Oh huh that makes more sense now, I was initially confused about some posters who'd go into detail about seeing him getting eaten, digested or beaten by buu, cell or freeza but >>155786807 >>155785536 makes more sense now still its a weird fetish I dont see how thats sexually attractive at all

>>155779407
I know it's a little off topic, but since those other races are modelled after humans (or vice versa, humans are modelled after them), wouldn't Saiyans be black? And Superman should be black too? And God should be black too? Though I guess that explains why he isn't around anymore though.

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>>155786888

When will this shitshow finally end?

>>155787125
When toriyama is sent to jail for raping your childhood

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Cell getting revived and having another arc when?

>>155787181
I didnt watch that in my childhood, only some friends did and why do they keep making this crap I dont get it.

15 minutes they talk about shit, 2 min fights and 3 minutes talks after the first attack

Idk how this show still survives after over 20 years

>>155787302
but all the Saiyans could slap him around like a fucboi now.

>>155787125
At least you can pretend it ended after [your favorite saga] because every saga has some closure.
Detective Conan is the real hell because you keep waiting for something to happen, but it never will

Why didn't Vegeta's or Gohan's tail grow back on Namek? I mean doesn't the tail grow back when they're in danger?

>>155787356
Oh yeah I loved Detective Conan, but I've lost the interest after 400 episodes.

The movies are still nice

>>155786976
>wont get to 10 mana against aggro
>too slow a card to play against midrange
>instawin against control

nice balance

>>155787451
I kinda felt the same way about Keroro Gunsou. The series was fun for the first 150 episodes or so but I started getting bored of it eventually.

>>155787330
He'd just need to train for a few months.

>>155787398
Go away

>>155787486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1m7Vk9pJtg
JAM Project Opening for Dragon Ball when?

Falkner > 40's Godzilla music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmA6tcNp2n4

>>155776602
Yo, Whis-man, we training or what?

>>155774546
For you.

>>155787969
>Not posting the superior dub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Gq2NxTvak

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>>155777445

>>155786025
>Why do people think Goku's stupid?
You asked this before, Toei's flanderization.

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So everyone agrees that this was supposed to be the end of DBZ right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJfmqxwp3MQ

>>155778020
Lets see how long it takes this fag to notice the gets

>>155777517
>bad animation
>saying beerus v goku before any fight in the rof saga

Estoopid

>>155777812
If only Mai was pointing to the right in that first post.

>>155787325
Because pretty much anything with the name Dragon Ball on it sells well.

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Browsing through #majin buu on tumblr

>Fit Buu makes me uncomfortable
>Petition to bring back fat buu

>>155786234
Dont say that name so loud!

>>155788144
Is this all you could find in over 80 episodes of DBS? 8 instances in 80 episodes? You're fucking pathetic. Not to mention that neither of these is long.

Who even decided that you can't have short bursts of ki attacks? Why are you being so autistic over it?

>>155788231
Yes.

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>>155788578

>>155787521
So one or two episodes right?

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>>155788489
>tumblr-chan makes her early debut

>>155788231
That's what a perfect ending to a fight looks like, everything about the cell arc was great because the two main characters were gohan and perfect cell aka the best characters in dbz.

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>>155788578
learn to ignore shitposters

>>155788641
How in the hell did you find a trip like that?

>>155788578
You seem upset.

>>155788838
I want to fuck Goku's neck

>>155776927
>warming it instead of warming up
>no filename
You're doing it wrong, anon.

Gohan will be the MVP of the tournament I just know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmXprJZ8UpY

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>>155788854
That's not how sex works

>>155774496
We need more yamcha

>>155784048
I' yo Spirit Animal Vegeta.

>>155774496
Because Vegeta's a Prison Bitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wZNXK6fvNE

>>155788927
>a minor variation of this music played when goku fought piccolo jr

I like the jap voices but the music is just so repetitive and dull.

>>155789319
I like most of the Japanese voice apart from Goku and Gohan's voice, that voice just doesn't fit them especially since they're grown men now. I don't mind having masako's voice for Goten though.

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>>155788578

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>>155789868

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What would happen if Whis fought Merged Zamasu?

>>155781239
You're retarded.
Raditz was a much higher power level than Goku & could have beat him effortlessly

Vegeta took down ALL the Z Fighters, including Goku using his max Kaioken. Krillin could barely even walk & he just happened to be last man standing.

I've never understood how people speed watch such a simple series

>>155790422
Whis can one shot Beerus and Merged Zamasu struggled against Goku's kamehameha, so...

>>155790513
That's because Vegita had the highest power level dork. If they were all the same Raddits would have fucked on both of them like he did against Piccolo and Goku.

>>155790573
Based off literally nothing other than "i think so"

There has never been a time where two equal power levels fought & someone won because they're bigger

>>155790531
>>155790422
GoDs were impressed by Goku and Toppo and the Kais noted that Zamasu was more powerful then anything they'd seen before and stood above the status of a god.

Strong Angels/GoDs are a meme at this point.

>>155790756
idk about GoD being a joke,
But Kai's were never anything more than SSJ2 tier

Isn't that the whole point of Buu saga?

>>155790756
You are not worth discussing with, educate yourself before spouting garbage.

>>155790756
Angels =/= Kai

You're legitimately retarded if you think anyone who can one shot Beerus is weak, let alone losing to Goku

>>155790727
If humans could shoot lasers and fly and you faught a midget that could fly the same speed as you and shoot the same size lasers but you were a buff in shape six feet tall guy who do you think would win that battle?

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>>155788231
It's funny how everyones voice got worse in Kai but Dameon Clarke's only got better.

>>155790930
The midget

>>155791193
"Official"

When will Gohan stop being such a whiny cunt I mean holy shit I just wanna see him be a lighthearted goofball like at the beginning of the Buu saga again.

DBS Gohan is SO FUCKING BORING and pathetic to watch I just wish they'd kill off his character and bring in a new one.

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>>155780429
>>155780491
bad monkey.
You were the chosen one to keep it alive! Not just let it die and archive

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>>155791193
>Nappa 6000
>Raditz 1500
stopped reading there

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>>155774496

>>155791439
>No, I am a scholar.
>Well, if it's for Pan-chan I'll do anything
>PLEASE TEACH ME I AM WEAK!

Every fucking time he shows up he says one of these lines and its fucking annoying, he's such a pathetic character, Pan sucked out everything from him and Videl

>>155791467
Looks like the supreme kai of time really was a supreme waste of time.

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>>155791515
What am I looking at?

>>155780963
Now we need to put hit at the bottom.

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>>155791569
this

>>155791569
>Being this much of a fucking newfag
Holy shit

>>155791522
Would've been so easy to turn Gohan into a justicefag to counterbalance Goku's fight autism.

Not only would it have made Goku's fight autism and forced stupidity and forgetfulness more bearable, but it wouldn't have turned Gohan into a boring Beta Goku.

I mean Gohan right now is so fucking beta he's gamma. Gohan better join the Pride Troopers and get an off screen power up so we don't have to deal with Gamma Goku any more.

>>155786788
Gohan's a strategist too, besides, he'll have that 'Unlocked Potential' thing going on again, I guess. Also, by the way Toei has been handling things, I bet we'll get some fanservice coming our way, either with him using a Makkankosappo or a better Masenko (Trunks used Masenko against Black, btw).

>>155786788
>Tien
>Tenshinhan

Pick one, bro.

>>155791880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XrF3PmEKP0

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>>155791449

>>155791475
Where's the balls are inert?

>>155788144
I don't understand why do they chose to use ki balls instead of ki beams. Ki beams look so much better...

>>155791842
>Gohan
>Strategist
>Every sort of strategy Gohan has ever come up with in a fight is get mad, power up, and punch it harder.

>>155791475
0/10 poor bait

>>155774496
body builders don't make for the best fighters

>>155791842
What's with Gohan unlocking his potential all the time? Does he keep relocking it or something?

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Was Toyo trying to make Black into another Janemba/Magetta?

>>155792092
Prblynote

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Weren't mangafags butthurt that this happened similarly in the anime?

Maybe it was in Toriyama's script?

Looks like there is a triggered Toei fag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWP73NI8gAw

>>155792074
This is one of the plot devices that fucks me off the most about Gohan.

He's literally born into power, the entirety of the series points at the fact he's potentially the strongest character fuelled by pure babyrage without him even having to work for it.

Even with this Gary Stu of a gift he squanders it and becomes a salaryman. Power to protect the fucking multiverse from harm and he throws it away to study for a dayjob.

I like Gohan as a kid, didn't really care about his SSJ2 transformation, and liked him again when he was a high-schooler. But after that he's become the most pathetic and unwatchable Dragon Ball character since.

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>>155792242
> criticize manga
> toeishill
> criticize anime
> toyocuck

So do both "sides" find their favorite medium perfect, and the other complete shit?

Makes no sense to me

>>155792332
>Implying he won't become a Pride Trooper at the end of this arc

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>>155792196

If super used cel animation would it be better?

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>>155792340
I find both mediums absolutely wonderful

>>155792021
Well, it usually works his way when he does it.

>>155792074
He has the most potential, but, since he doesn't train, people have to keep using magical ways for him to get on the level of whatever threat they are facing. I guess it's not a matter of relocking-then-unlocking, but of unlocking it further. Since Saiyans now canonicaly have no limits, how much of his potential is unlocked probably depends on the power or skill of the one who's doing the unlocking.

>>155792457
If it came out in the 90s it would've been better

Fuck this digital shit

>>155792467
You and me, mate.

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>>155792370
He better become one, he's boring to watch as is right now.

>>155777972
i know it's absurd, but it's probably like that in real life, too, because the universe likes mocking us

>>155792515
>you can either train and git gud
>or you can just sit around while some old fart unlocks your power
Jeez Gohan, way to be a lazy fuck.

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That's it. Im getting sick and tired of DBS' inconsistency.
Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.

But in Super there is a huge one, and by huge I mean HUGE.

Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa.
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".

Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???

> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!

>>155791439
I never liked Gohan, for me he's just a waste of screen time.

>>155793083
ditto

>>155793083
Same.

>>155793083
>>155793179
>>155793184
Samefag

@155793463
Is a retardedfag

>>155793463
Fuck off, Gohanfag.

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>>155792845
> U7 being in the bottom two = Toei's fault
> Implying this is not in Toriyama's script

I sense another "kiss-less Goku" scenario here

>>155792845
How long are you going to post this?

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>>155792845
Roshi will stomp in the tournament

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>>155792520
It did come out in the 90s. It's called GT.

>>155793719
You can tell how badly she wants the turtle dick.

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>>155793719
There are going to be so many multiverse titties for him to grope

>>155793767
GT is GT.

Super is Super

>>155792657
Smugpup? Thoughts on the Future Trunks arc?

Why is Manga Black so fucking boring?

>>155794087
Because Cuckataro took this opportunity to literally transform Black into Xicor

>>155794081
Fuck off.

>>155792092
>Black

Anon, he's talking about Future Zamasu

>>155793657
He'll continue until he stops getting (You)s probably

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>>155794188

>>155794518
>general white is the weakest person we have ever seen

Why is Goku such a Cuckarotto?

>>155794629
what?

>>155794623
>white
Well their women keep breeding with blacks and arabs, so...

>>155792370
The funny thing: Gohanfags will cry if he becomes a Pride Trooper (with the silly poses and everything) even though that would in character

Just because "muh epic ss2"

>>155794629
When was he cucked?
wtf™ son

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Posting v3

Anime version still in progress

>>155794663
I'm asking why Goku is such a Cuckarotto? I mean, Goten is probably Vegeta's child.

>>155794722
would be*

fuck I need to sleep

>>155794722
I would cry if that meant he would abandon his family and his dreams of becoming a full-fledged scholar. If he could do it without giving up what it's really important to him, then, I'd be happy for him.

>>155794811
>SSB Vegeta post training
He didn't become stronger faggot.

>>155794623
/pol/ BTFO

>>155794910
He can be a Pride Trooper and a scholar. He's a superman wannabe already.

>>155775243
Because the manga's unironically shit regardless of "what's more canon" debates.
Anime's pretty fun now, and not just self-aware "fuck this is bad" shitposting fun.

>>155795102
>Anime's pretty fun now
HAHAHA

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>>155794188
Keep trying

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>>155794819
>I mean, Goten is probably Vegeta's child.

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PART GOD, PART SAIYAN, THAT'S WHY I'M THE MOST POWERFUL BEING IN THE UNIVERSE, X̶I̶C̶O̶R̶ BLACK

>>155795126
Hello Toyotaro, I see you're still on suicide watch

>>155795138
>proving him right by posting Xicor, which is nearly inseparable from Manga Black

What are you doing lad

>>155794811
>no Bardock
>no Broly
>no Cooler
>no Gogeta
>no SSJ4

>yet includes the non-canon Super garbage

if you're gonna add in non-canon shit, at least add interesting characters instead of Literally Who?s

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>>155792196
>similarly

>>155795102
This, the manga's art is decent but Toyo's influence anywhere pertaining to the written or creative aspect seeps through negatively. He's absolute shit.
Tori chose the wrong successor

>>155795202
Bardock's in there

>>155795202
>Bardock
>Broly
>Cooler
>Gogeta
>SSJ4

Who?

>>155795266
>Toyo's influence anywhere pertaining to the written or creative aspect seeps through negatively.
Is this the epitome of being delusional?

>>155795321
>Is this the epitome of being delusional?
>Toei shill
You already know.

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>>155795202
>No Bardock

>>155795321
No, he's right.
The epitome of being delusional is thinking Kid Buu is the strongest or that Toyotaro is good.

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>>155794811
Gotenks is NOT that strong.

>Base Gotenks
Are about as strong as Frieza final form.

>SSJ Gotenks
Between MSSJ enraged Gohan and P. Cell strength, but not more powerful than Super Perfect Cell.

SSJ3 Gotenks is accurate, although a bit stronger than Super Buu.

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>>155794811
>Anime version
>DBS anime
>power scaling
Good luck with that.

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First is about Hit's strange mannerisms in the manga. Where in which Hit was strategically hiding his movements and his hands to avoid Goku seeing his tells. This also made Goku predicting Hits timeskip more believable since he was given a frame of reference for when Hit was going to use his time powers. Unlike the anime where Goku is omniscience or some shit. I mean there was still some my powerlevel>yours but it was still trying to add a strategic element to the fight which has me interested in Toyotaro's version of next tourney.

In the anime he fights with his hands in his pocket because of his generic imma look down on you personality. His shitty "improvement" made his fight boring and repetitive (the looped animation didn't help)
Goku found a way to predict Hit's timeskip movements
Hit: nuh uh I improve over that
Goku used Kaioken to multiply his stats and become "faster than time"
Hit: nuh uh I improve over that
Like some playground game of pretend. Boring as shit.

Also Goku predicting Hit's timeskip in the anime made no sense since Hit could actually stop time. So why would Goku predicting Hit help him any?

Where as in the manga Hit's timeskip is exactly as the name implies.

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>>155795371
>>Base Gotenks
>Are about as strong as Frieza final form.
>>SSJ Gotenks
>Between MSSJ enraged Gohan and P. Cell strength, but not more powerful than Super Perfect Cell.

>>155795371
Everyone relied on Gotenks to kill Fat Buu, nobody knew he could go SS3 so it's safe to assume Goku knew SS Gotenks could beat Fat Buu or else he would have done it himself.
Therefore it's pretty clear SS Gotenks is as strong if not stronger than Fat Buu

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>Toriyama outline: Kibito and Shin defuse

>Toyotaro: Well, BoG arc is a good moment to introduce Champa as a misterious Beerus-like deity so I'll make Champa raid Beerus' universe (taking advantage of that Beerus is busy fighting) searching for the DBs with Vados. Then, Kibitoshin and the old Kaioshin discover they are talking about the "Wish Jewels" so they realize that they are talking about DBs and teleport to Namek to take them. Champa and Vados visit the Kaioshin in their planet so this will make the mistery more interesting (who is this god called Champa? Another Hakaishin? Fans will truly theorize!) and finally Kibitoshin use the DBs to defuse, which disperse the DBs around New Namek again

>Toei: Kibitoshin? Y-YEAH, I DIDN'T FORGOT IT..! Well... hum... Kibito and Shin just appear in Champa's tournament and say "we defused with namekian DBs lol"

>>155795442
Base Gotenks fighting Buu was just filler and SS1 Gotenks got shit on by Super Buu

>>155795339
>Bardock
>PL of around 10,000
Nope.

Bardock was an average fucking low-class saiyan. Going by the official "Father of Goku" special in the 90s, not the SSJ retcon or Gine fanfic comic.

Reposting: "Powerlevels over 1000 are rare across the universe, which is also why Saiyans at PL 1000-4000 on average were considered super dangerous and why early zenkai boosts are so low and shitty for them.

Freeza's soldiers ranked between 500-2000 presumeably and his elites were in the ranges of 10k-25k and the ginyu in 40k+ ranges, with Captain Ginyu being so retardedly powerful at 120k that literally the only character besides Freeza that could compete with him prior to the Namek saga was like, Oozaru Vegeta.

It's also possible people like Yamcha and Krillin are freakshows like the Ginyu force and have absurdly high potential and growth compared to their race's averages. Except they actually fucking train so achieving levels of like 200k is entirely possible.

As for Goku and Vegeta and Gohan, once you pass that threshold of the higher thousands it seems zenkai boosts legit skyrocket in power, I think Vegeta even says something abut that. The reason Saiyans never got that strong before is because there's not enough good competition in the universe for them to level up on. Once they reach like 5000-10,000 they're pretty much unstoppable as far as typical warriors go. Even Namekian warriors weren't as strong as Bardock, King Vegeta, or Nappa, save for Nail of course. And obviously the 10x boost from Oozaru made them even more impossible to beat granted a full moon was out. An army of Great Ape Saiyans could have killed Freeza and his elites if Freeza never managed to transform in time."

Bardock was around 1000~5000. I'd go with slightly stronger than Raditz.

No way he was stronger than fucking Nappa, which was an elite.

>>155795437
It's because the anime is made purely to be hype and flashy because it's the format that best suits that with animation, colours and sounds, and the manga attempts to be more rational.
It's about playing to your genre's strengths.
You
fucking
dip

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Anime Gowasu:
>senile old dude who shows Zamasu a race of ningen that just confirms his prejudices and shows no redeeming characteristics that would motivate Zamasu to see ningen differently
>says that justice is balancing good and evil and tells Zamasu to accept evil in the world and brew him more tea

Manga Gowasu:
>is more willing to take notice of the fact that in a thousand years from the present, the babari develop writing and music. Zamasu just ignores these developments.
>Gowasu tries to point out to Zamasu how the Babari stopped fighting when their religious shaman showed up, confirming that Gowasu was right about the Babari actually progressing from a degenerate state of being to a higher and more spiritual one. Again, Zamasu doesn't see this or just ignores it.
>Gowasu tells Zamasu that he understands his desire for justice, but points out that a desire for justice in the world can easily become fastidiousness
>Rather than trying to convince Zamasu to tolerate evil in the universe because of something about balance, he tries to convince Zamasu that the path to peace is best achieved by developing a sense of tolerance and knowing how to rule with a gentle and forgiving hand
>He also tells Zamasu that he must learn his place in the divine order. Even if a race like the Babari prove to be a problem, it is the Gods of Destruction's job to pass the judgement on them, not the Kais.
>When Zamasu asks then why he's been given this great power if he's not allowed to use it to punish unworthy ningen, Gowasu states that he should see it as a test designed to help him to better himself morally.

tl;dr Manga Gowasu actually behaves more like a Supreme Kai who has the experience of millenia of doing his job and following the rules to positive results

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>Toeishills shitposting with their boring "le flamboyant xD" Anime!Black again

>>155795437
>someone is using my post
Senpai noticed me!

>>155795479
There's still nothing to support the notion Base Gotenks is only FF Frieza level.
Whereas at the very least SSJ Gotenks has direct character statements claiming he's above Fat Buu BEFORE further training.

>>155795479
>SS Gotenks got shit on by Super Buu
No shit nigger, Super Buu was marginally stronger than Fat Buu, doesn't mean SS Gotenks isn't strong, especially since SS3 Gotenks shits all over Super Buu

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>Trunks survived, but how?

>Toyotaro: There's some useful characters overthere, you know. Based Shin and Gowasu use their time rings and teleport powers and they save Trunks and Mai from an insured death
>Toei: lol who cares he just did it now see this gag with future Yajirobe

>>155795339
Nappa was the absolute strongest Saiyan behind Vegeta and he was only 4000. The average low class saiyan was 1000-2000. Bardock could have been 2500 at most.

>>155795371
>meme numbers

no thank you

>>155788944
BEST BOY

>>155795437
>>155795460
>>155795501
>>155795541
>Toyocucks having another meltdown

How does one studio trigger them so hard?

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>manga Black-Zamasu
>Black: Shit, a Kaioshin discovered our plan
>Zamasu: If they report to Zeno we are fucked, better end this shit and go to another planet
>Black: Yeah, time to go serious
>when Shin and Gowasu react all remaining humans are already dead

>anime Black-Zamasu
>a fucking year trying to destroy the humanity seriously
>dozens of humans still alive and not only in the city (see #8 and more humans living in mountains)
>defeated by gas
>they need to fuse each other and with the entire universe to finally kill all humans

>>155795437
Hit in the anime can NOT stop time, this was stated by the characters but they just said to Goku "time stop" to make it simple, it seems you also thought that since you can't actually understand something if it's not clearly spelt out.
His Tokitobashi is further explained in the rematch but of course I don't expect a Toyble cocksucker to actually do any research.

>>155795495
>It's about playing to your genre's strengths.
>genre's
I believe the word you're looking for is medium.
If only Toei actually did that.

>>155795490
>Toriyama
>Fanfic comic

Is this a new epic meme?

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>>155787969
>>155788231
Buu Saga was a mistake.

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>>155795595
>Hit in the anime can NOT stop time

>>155795606
>has sounds
>has colours

There's the strengths it plays to right there.

I fucking hate this Toyocuck. Jesus christ he's so annoying. I don't even give a fuck about anime vs manga but he just keeps spamming his shit that's been proven false a hundred times.
>inb4 HAHA YOU MAD TOEISHILL ???

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>>155795573
I don't know. Better ask Toeishills.

>>155795573
Nice argument bro I guess Cuckataro writing is shit after all XDDD

>>155795650
2 second time skip, it's King Crimson not The World.

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>>155795651
>has sounds
>has colours
>There's the strengths it plays to right there.

>>155791570

you mean 17. 17's gonna be Goku's new buddy.

>gets 2+ episodes dedicated to them hanging around
>always next to each other in the promotional art

Hit never even had a chance.

>>155795661
>someone got triggered enough by a post calling out Toyocucks to make a collaborative image of all Toei-posts they deemed as irony
>they are not smart enough to see the irony in this

Double-layers of irony right here boys.
Toyocucks blowing themselves out yet again

>>155795665
this

>>155795661
>Let's not address any of his point and just make a funny image regrouping all their arguments while not providing any counters, that will show them !

>>155795490
>Going by the official "Father of Goku" special in the 90s
>During this time, presiding doctors attest that Bardock's Power Level is approaching 10,000, and that at this rate he may surpass the strength of the Saiyan ruler, King Vegeta.

>>PL of around 10,000
>Nope.

???

>>155795704
>not address any point
>not providing any counter
That's exactly what you did, toeidog.

>>155795652
he's a very triggered boy
>reminder Toeichads politely discuss anime
>reminder Toyocucks never discuss the manga, meme-post about "LEAKS-WHEN" and start pasta-wars

When will they go outside?

>>155795686
Cringing hard @ this salty toyocuck 2bh

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>>155795704
>while not providing any counters
>Posts argument
>Pic related is Toeishills' response

Like you said, "that will show them !"

It's always toybleshills starting shit in these threads Jesus christ

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>>155795661
>someone calls out Toyocuck's tendency to make big informative images
>Toyocuck takes the time to make a big, informative image in order to retort

I made that post at the top, by the way
Glad it touched you so deep

Where's my Gine? Someone post Gine

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>>155795776
>Just copy-pasted screenshots
>Informative image

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>this thread

>>155795736
>reminder Toeichads politely discuss anime
>reminder Toyocucks never discuss the manga
It's not funny if you lies so badly, dude

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>its another toei vs toyo episode
>its another ginefag episode
>its another stale copypasta episode
super is terrible

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>>155795787
Have the whole family

Super Vegito: 400,000,000,000
Super Buu (Gohan absorbed): 200,000,000,000
Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed): 120,000,000,000
Mystic Gohan: 90,000,000,000
>SSJ3 Gotenks: 44,000,000,000
Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed): 42,000,000,000
Super Buu: 40,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 30,000,000,000
Kid Buu: 30,000,000,000
Majin Buu: 25,000,000,000
Vegito: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Goku: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan: 5,700,000,000
Kibito Kai: 5,600,000,000
>SSJ Gotenks: 5,500,000,000
SSJ Goku: 4,000,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 4,000,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 2,850,000,000
Dabura: 2,800,000,000
Supreme Kai: 2,300,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
Yakon: 640,000,000
SSJ Kid Trunks: 525,000,000
SSJ Goten: 500,000,000
>Gotenks: 110,000,000
Gohan (Z Sword): 90,000,000
Goku: 80,000,000
Vegeta: 64,000,000
Gohan: 57,000,000
Kibito: 56,000,000
Kid Trunks: 10,500,000
Goten: 10,000,000
Tien: 250,000
Krillin: 240,000
Pui Pui: 180,000
Spopovitch: 30
Yamu: 28
Videl: 21
Hercule: 10
Punta: 8

Case closed.

>>155795661
>that image

Do you SERIOUSLY not see the irony in making that, and then the irony in labeling it "irony"?
Toyotards confirmed unironically single-digit iq, holy fuck

>>155795857
>if you lies so badly

Toyospic GO

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>>155795787

>>155795871
>that girl
Not canon. Goku's mother is unknown.

The rest are canon.

Fuck Canadians and Mexicans, we all know it's you.

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>Toeishills and Toyocucks sucking each others dicks because both Manga and Anime Black are shit

>>155795874
those autism numbers are not accurate
canon numbers don't exist past namek
please contain your autism

>>155795836
Don't you ever give me another (You) ever again or I'll heem you

>>155795924
This, fuck Mexico and Mexico North

>>155795941
Fuck off Mexico North

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>>155795787
Ok

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>>155795674
>2 second time skip,
5 seconds actually.

>it seems you also thought that since you can't actually understand something if it's not clearly spelt out.
The irony.

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>>155794811
>manga powerchart
lol

/a/ really needs to stop taking children's shows too seriously.

Does anyone actually like Minus but Gine Waifufags?

>>155795874
>Vegito below SSJ3 Goku

This is dumb

>>155795983
Please read Vados' speech again.

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>>155795787
>tfw canon mommy is a beautiful angel

>>155796015
No need, that pic was straight from the man himself.

>>155795787
Probably in hell with the rest of the Saiyans

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>>155795991
The problem isn't just /a/, it's the DB fanbase. They've been taking DB way too seriously for decades.

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Remember when Tien was Goku's equal?

He also did the "evil guy redeems himself" cliché before Piccolo and Vegeta.

>>155796053
True, that is a time skip but that's not what he uses in combat, since in combat people can't move except him.

>>155796193
nobody cares

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>>155795787
How about family time

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The manga is such an enigma compared to the anime it's so laughable. No one reviews it, rarely anyone gives it praise, and it's made by some shit fan fiction-tier artist/author. No, it's not "more canon" because Toriyama approves of it. It isn't written by him, nor is it drawn by him. Same goes for the anime, but at least that's more enjoyable than the terribly handled story-telling in the manga. The manga will never become anything outside of V-Jump and the volumes issued. When someone says "Dragon Ball Super," first thing that'll come to their minds is the anime, not the promotional, garbage manga. Toyble's involvement with this series was a huge mistake. He's bringing in material from his AF doujins, and even based one of the new God of Destruction from a GT antagonist. How bad is that? Only Toyble could come up with something like it. Toriyama doesn't care about Toyble, he's simply glad that he doesn't have to draw Dragon Ball anymore himself.

>>155796082
>evil guy redeems himself

That title belongs to Yamcha or Oolong.
Even though that was more light-hearted and full of humor and gags.

But yeah, Tien was the first "serious" contender.

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>>155796115

>>155796115
This
I will give Toyotaro props for trying to make ration and reason from the absurdity of Toriyama's fun-house of a brain.
But DB was best when it ditched functional logic and hinged itself on being supported purely by it's own internal systems.
He's trying to un-fun and make sensible that which thrives in it's ridiculousness.
I literally fucked Toyotaro's wife in-front of him.
He never blinked.

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Posting v3 anime version

STILL in progress