K-ON vs LOVE LIVE

Not even a competition. K-on over Love Live any day. K-On actually has good characters while Love Live only has fapbait.

>>155085389
both are trash desu

>>155085518
Agree, but at least there is some development in K-On.

>>155085389
A masterpiece on the left, versus idolshit garbage on the right. Hmm, I wonder which is better.

>>155085389
K-On is responsible for birthing the idolshit boom (Honoka is an obvious Yui expy), but Love Live is irredeemable cancer while K-On is just harmlessly cute. Kind of a draw.

K-On for life

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>>155085389
K-on has Ui in it, so it's no competition.

>>155085667
What makes love live cancer while K-on isnt? Try to respond with actual words instead of a shitpost

>>155085762
>Ui
wtf would you pick a supporting character for your waifu? too hipster to pick one of the protagonists who get lots of screen time and you get to understand them better?

>>155085919
wtf I hate Ui now.

lurk 2 years before posting

>>155085962
epic maymay kiddo

>>155085919
let a nigga love his waifu you piece of shit

K-on is a genuine masterpiece, and Love Live is some trashy otaku pandering commitee designed shit. Hmmm, hard choice.

Love Live sucks. It has some fun things that makes it enjoyable to watch, but the characters are so artificial, and it only does what it does, it doesn't so it amazingly well that makes it stand out. It's the opposite of K-on, which works by having generic plot but amazing exexution and characters. Instead of Love Live's somewhat interesting concept in a completely average execution with bad characters.

This question isn't even worth asking, stop trying to make Love Live look bettet by pretending they are comparable.

>>155085389
Im@s>Love live

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>>155085919

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Moeshit on the left and garbage on the right

>>155086062
this. k-on is a heart filled endeavor, love live is a corporate vehicle for merch

K-On is the pinnacle of anime.

Both are a cancer that made this place a lot worse.

K-On is amazing, especially the second season. It really is one of the best things the genre has to offer and I'd recommend it to anyone.

>>155085389
K-ON is moe kino whereas Love Live is bland idol otaku-pandering trash.

>>155085458
This desu pham

>>155086006
>let a nigga love his waifu you piece of shit
was just wondering why ppl pick side-characters with no screen time.. it's hard to even know what she's like. that's all.

as a musician k-on is something i would love to cover for fun while love live is something i would never listen to even if it were my last chance to hear anything before going deaf

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>>155086077
>Im@s>Love live
You're wrong. Im@s has no Maki.

I love both, but that comparison's night and day. K-On! is a modern classic and Love Live is junk food.

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>>155085389
>comparing two turds

Feels good to not have shit taste and watch these mundane meaningless anime that have nothing interesting or entertaining to offer.

K-On!

>>155086380
not really. she's very intelligent, a faster learner than yui (who's a savant already), and loves her family and friends and would do anything for them. who cares if the show doesn't center on her.

>>155086477
>posts shounenshit

>>155086545
The entire thread agrees on it.

It's settled.

>>155085389
K-On. Even if for no other reason than that I fucking hate pop idol culture.

>>155085389
They're both trash. I love it when K-On fags try to sell this shit as some sort of masterpiece. It's fucking mediocre SoL, not that hard to make SoL good in the first place and even then it's nowhere near the level of works that created amazing atmospheres like NNB and Aria.

At least Love Live fags recognize that the anime isn't any good.

>>155086651
Love Live is commercial as heck and a whole lot less artistically serious than K-On, but it has some nice stuff in it too. It's not a great show in the slightest, but "just fan-pandering moeshit" is underselling it.

>>155086380
Are you new? It's not uncommon for people to waifu side-characters here.

>>155085389
K-On - masterpiece
Love Live - idolshit
No contest really.

>>155086380
She gets enough overall screen time to get a general idea, and a day in the limelight episode.

>>155086763
Why don't you address what he says. What does K-On do that NNB didn't?

Why is this K-On masterpiece meme being so aggressively repeated lately?

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>>155088298
>it's shit because a later anime did it too

>>155088298
i definitely give a shit about what you think. you definitely have a big brain that doesnt let you believe an entire thread of people saying k-on is good. what a fucking scholar. please wait while i upload the spreadsheet with all the science reasons why k-on is great. you fuck.

Love Live. It has no pretensions that it's anything more than an advanced waifu simulator.

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I like both.

I like both OP what now

>>155088298
>What does K-On do that NNB didn't?
Be a masterpiece.

>>155088662
>>155088683
>le rational centrist man

>>155088298
K-On being good is been all but fact for a long time, what do you mean "lately"

>>155088555
Okay then. What, pray tell, is superior about k-off's atmosphere over NNB's? What is masterpiece-worthy about a bunch of girls crying about how they won't see each other anymore? (Oh wait, they can always exchange email addresses or whatever! It's not like in, say, Madoka, where a girl has to watch her friend being driven into depression and insanity and then death.)

>>155086719
NNB is an extremely generic SOL only praised because of the tacked on nature shots. Showing shit like
>look at this nature with absolutely nothing happening. Are you relaxed yet?"
is not subtle in the least and is just padding. Even K-ON's least interesting scenes have more to them.

>>155088768
>k-off

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>>155088742
nigga please

>>155088784
Mm-hmm. Now what exactly makes k-off a masterpiece?

>>155088768
>k-off
I feel embarrassed for you

>>155088768
lol at this guy who watched the keions practice, perform, travel, goof off, and grow up together then asked himself "why dont they just use email" when they realize their time in high school, youth, and as a band will come to an end.

what a human being.

>>155088298
NNM is male gaze otaku fare with inferior direction, atmosphere, character interactions, charm, thematic weight and production. K-On is completely made by women while not being aimed at men but rather for everyone. K-On is one of the most sincere anime ever made. K-On is filled to the brim with little details that breathe depth and authenticity into its world. The staff obsesses over what the characters would wear, their height, their weight, their actions and reactions. Naoko Yamada treats her characters as human beings and not mere fictional constructs. K-On has a subtle level of narrative structure, specifically in the 2nd season, that separates it from other SOL. K-On's loose character designs brings with it cartoony fun reminiscent of classic cartoons. K-On incorporates its visual language from both amateur photography and indie American cinema to realize its idealized adolescent aesthetic.

>>155088873
More like triggered that I insulted your bland favorite anime, I see, since you didn't bother to answer my question.

>>155088784
Seems you don't know what SoL strives for if you're worried about "interesting scenes"

>>155088838
Better characters and far better directing, from the character movements to cinematic shots that, unlike NNB, aren't distractions from the actual content. Never claimed that it was a masterpiece though.

>>155088948
>triggered
Back to dumblr you go.

>>155088935
Is this pasta? Should I be embarrassed for not recognizing it?

>>155089018
No, read this post (the title is ironic)
https://twolongfourtwitlonger.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/the-worst-anime-ever-made/

>>155088768
Autistic wanker.

>>155088298
>lately
0/10 I hope no one thinks you're being serious

>>155089100
>deadhouse

>Shounenfags and Oldfags who haven't seen K-ON shitting on it
What else is new.

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>>155089103
>here go look at this blogpost by some literally who weeaboo fag

Nah, I'm good.

>>155088838
It's one of those rare shows which completely succeeds on its formal, technical and narrative grounds.
Like, you shouldn't need a review to at least empathize with those who praise it. It's readily apparent.

Toshiyuki Inoue, on Kyoani and K-On:
>their recent projects definitely reach the limits of the medium
>the animation is very rich and full, and has excellent control
>K-On! is the pinnacle of TV anime
>Kyoani has without a doubt advanced Japanese animation
>if K-On! were made 20 years ago, it'd have been a landmark achievement
>if I had to compare it to another series? Perhaps "Heidi, Girl of the Alps", even though the subject matter is very different
>the consistency of quality also reminds of "Heidi" or "Sanzen-ri"

>>155085389
I dropped K-on halfway the second season but finished LL minus the movie and watched sunshine

>>155089221
>I'm not going to read something that goes against my narrtive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>155088983
I'm well aware of the fact that SOL is shallow fun for relaxation. I just prefer it when I'm watching the cute girls do something instead of watching wallpapers every few minutes.

>>155089177
>dead
>still animated the best anime this season
Really makes you ponder.

>>155089238
>dropped K-on halfway the second season
>watched sunshine
that's messed up

>>155089238
>minus the movie
nigga you what

>>155089283
LWA is produced by Trigger.

>>155089229
>>if I had to compare it to another series? Perhaps "Heidi, Girl of the Alps",
Literally gave me cancer.

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>>155089271
Yes, I'm sure that's the reason I don't want to read your diary.

>>155089283
They animated Maidragon?

Really penetrates my brainpussy.

>>155085667
K-On isn't even close to being an idol show, what are you talking about?

>>155085389
>comparing an anime masterfully made with care to an anime designed solely to make money for a multimedia franchise
Not even close, and this is coming from a die hard LL fag.

>>155089283
Madhouse makes Kemono Friends?

>>155089396
Why do you lie, though?

>>155089339
>Little Progression Academia

>>155085667
>K-On responsible for the idol boom
>Honoka a copy of Yui
Holy shit this has to be bait

>>155089421
>complaining about episodic storytelling in a TV show

>>155089283
Rakugo was made by Deen

>>155089304
Sorry, it bored me
>>155089333
I'm that lazy, I have 0079 and Perfect Blue in my HDD since 2016 and I haven't watched them

>>155089339
>Little Sales Academia
>Little Shoehorn Romancemia

im still losing my mind laughing at
>Oh wait, they can always exchange email addresses or whatever!

jesus christ

>>155089480
Don't say lazy

>>155089365
What's sad is that some people really believe this.
>>155089409
>japanese MLP
>animated

>>155089480
Real talk, K-On was boring as fuck. At least Love Live was fun and entertainment is all that really matters.

K-On! had its flaws but I'd take it over Love Live any day. At least all 5 girls were important to the show and contributed something, that's a hell of a lot better than how the latter handled its characters.

>>155089493
Keep your shit to stalker threads and /u/

>>155089524
Pretty much

>>155089524
>entertainment is all that really matters
Go watch Game of Thrones or whatever other flicks are on TV and fuck off.

Anime is art.

>>155089522
I know, it pisses me off that people believe in the truth

Serious now, what did badhouse did this season?

Bands performing their own music > idols dancing over backing tracks any day.

>>155089610
>Bands performing their own music
>performing their own music
>>>music
What, they're 2 tracks?

>>155089593
Anime is a medium.

K-On is an average SOL.

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>>155089631
Yes, "they're 2 tracks"

>>155089670
K-On is a masterpiece SOL and the peak of anime.

>>155089696
Oh boy, I am back in high school aren't I?

>>155089229
https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Nico_Anime_Character_Seminar_by_Kazuo_Koike

Kazuo Koike on Madoka Magica:

>In my decades of experience writing manga I have never thought about a scenario like Madoka. It went beyond my imagination.

>There were many times I felt my heart rending when I watched Madoka Magica.
I think it is a great thing to create such touching work.

>I could even say that with Madoka Magica the indigestion feeling of Evangelion has now finally ended.

See, I can use other anime/manga creators as props in a debate too!

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>>155089593
>Band of girls eating cake instead of practicing is art

>>155089725
The motorcycle ripoff was literally better

>>155089725
pretty much

>>155089771
>literally
fuck off underage

>>155089752
We aren't talking about Madoka though

>>155085389
Love Live has Maki. K-on doesn't.

Love Live wins.

Even the worst girl from love live which is the Rice Girl with glasses is better than the best girl from K-on.

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>>155086425
This guy knows it. Maki is a miracle of the universe.

>>155089752
>>I could even say that with Madoka Magica the indigestion feeling of Evangelion has now finally ended.
What the fuck did he mean by this?

>>155089812
All of the Love Live girls are just inferior K-On girls.
Honoka is inferior Yui
Umi is inferior Mio
Maki is inferior Mugi
Rin is inferior Ritsu

If K-On is so great, why does it have a 7.86 on MAL?

>>155089887
Eva was a question posed to the industry, and it wasn't until Madoka that Koike felt it was answered.

>>155089932
Because gaijins have shit taste
More news at 11

>>155089966
Everyone on /a/ is a gaijin though.

As someone who grew up with the classic WMTs, modern CGDCT just feel like complete shit in comparison.

>>155088646
>NICO NICO NIIII
she's the fucking worst senpai

>>155085389
Sunshine.

>>155089932
>MAL

>>155089995
fucking oldfag

>>155089932
Shounen action shit and saccharine feels fest are what's needed to get high ratings. Also the second season+movie is the meat of the franchise

>>155089955
What question?

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>>155089966

>>155089932
There's always an element of aversion for some people when it comes to unapologetic moe in anime. Plus, it's tougher to "get" K-On! without going through the whole series.

>>155089991
Specifically gaijins that uses MAL.
I mean just look at the top anime. If I am not wrong it is dominated by shounenshit and gintama took the #1 spot.

>>155090040
I dunno, I'm not some fag who sucks Eva's dick, that's just the way they all talk about it.

>>155090035
I'm only 28.

>>155089752
I love how unlike in the critique about K-On, he didn't actually mention Madoka's "revolutionary" qualities, just how they made him feel. Almost as if Madoka is shock value-based literal garbage with zero rewatch value.

>>155090050
>it gets good after the first 10 hours, i promise

>>155090078
That's old.

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Isn't Yui one of the best anime characters of all time? She's adorable and beautify drawn. Not to mention that her voice is absolutely amazing.

>>155090078
Literally an old man

>>155090113
I, too, want to fuck a retard

>>155090083
Madoka didn't age well.
Back in 2011, we all thought that Madoka would change the industry. Looking back at it now, Madoka ended up being just a fad while people still talk about Keion in 2017.

>>155090078
Considering the average /a/ member is 16 years old, yeah you're pretty fucking old.

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K-On is the anime otaku's choice. If you have always had a lot of anime in your life, apparently repulsive, cringeworthy, or boring aspects of K-On are merely normal and you can easily get right to the core of the show and appreciate its relatively subtle characterization and even begin to discern a plot. K-On is an anime first and foremost, so no shit here sherlock.

However, if you are an anime casual and mostly watched foreigner-friendly things like eva, paprika, gits, magnetic rose, last exile, it's simplicity leads to cross culture appeal enough to make it babby's first cute girl show, and maybe babby's last, and also the only one babby can tolerate for more than 10 minutes before walking away from the computer and doing something normal. For love live's target audience, that being random people who really don't give a shit about anime and might follow a manga series or two at the most, it's largely carried by catchy pop songs and a mobile game. The anime is actually side material to the fictional idol group (in the vein of "gorillaz"), and postdates the songs and short stories. Love live is a mutlimedia franchise, not a dedicated anime. The fact that the anime saw success outside of being a very effective ad for an ad-hoc band of seiyuus is sort of surprising. It borders on background noise should you watch it alone or with friends and it's empty and vapid enough for you to still catch what's going on even if you're not paying attention. Love live is, dare I say it, more of a social function than something meant to be enjoyed by an individual.

>>155090137
Fucking your own mother is inappropriate.

>>155090088
I mean, I think that stuff's good too. But the show's narrative continuity is meant to evoke nostalgia, so looking back on earlier episodes is important. It's that paradox where you need the whole picture to appreciate individual parts, but you need the parts to see the whole picture.

>>155090095
>>155090115
>>155090156
Get the fuck out of my /a/ underage moeshitter.

>>155090154
What's the point of posting things like this? Telling someone the sky is green is not only a lie, it's a stupid one because it's so obviously untrue.

>>155090215
Get back to your grave, grandpa.

>>155085389
K-ON. This comparison is not very fair to Love Live, though.

>>155090168
>Love live is, dare I say it, more of a social function than something meant to be enjoyed by an individual.
Pretty good summation of its appeal

>>155090154
Not that changing the industry itself is a merit.
Even SAO had and still has a huge influence.

>>155090010
>Sunshine.
It's just Love Live Repeat. Writers were lazy as fuck. Plot and characters are nearly identical.

>>155090154
It's actually amazing that Madoka had barely any impact.

>>155089995
Industry veterans and people who actually know what they're talking about agree K-On has more in common with classic WMT than modern CGDCT

>>155090358
Guess I'll finally get them out of my backlog then.

>>155090358
Pretty sure it's just Inoue, in terms of industry guys. Not that I disagree with the comparison.

K-ON was the real underdog.

No one saw it coming. LL already had that idol thing going on.

I hope they make a 10 year anniversary and make it in line with 2020 Olympics.

>>155090154

Madoka had a good ending already. They just had to fuck it up with those nonsense bullshit like Rebellion. Totally fucking unnecessary.

>>155090154
>Madoka didn't age well

The show itself is still good (great even). The only problem is people overselling it and the whole "deconstruction" nonsense instead of looking at it as a good tragic tale.

K-On is directed by Naoko Yamada.
That's all that needs to be said.

>>155089752

Madoka was shock value garbage. I don't even know why anyone thinks it was anything great. The cutout visuals were another thing though. That itself deserved praise.

Generally Madoka was fucking QUALITY when it aired.

>>155090576
Haven't seen Koe no Katachi yet, but everything besides K-On! was pretty mixed.

>>155090576
I wonder if she'll do an original again next.

>>155090154
Yeah, we talk about how boring and insubstantial K-On is.

How was it better directed, staged, etc. than Madoka?

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hey you fucking gaylords just dropping by to tell you all that k-on is a fucking masterpiece

>>155090700
that scene was super cute

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Holy fuck, i'm glad I left this thread when I did.

>>155090306
>Even SAO had and still has a huge influence.

Aside from the trash SAO gets, it actually has some pretty interesting motifs. Though the problem is that it was not executed well and a tad eyebrow raising to a ridiculous note.

There were some great arcs SAO and Ordinal Scale's plot had potential.

>>155090651
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she got to do another original. She rejected Keion S3 because she was encouraged to do an original(Tamako) and KnK was a big success, so it's very possible.

>>155090358
WMT were all about sobriety and realism. Something that goes out of its way to be explicitly cartoony and exaggerate facial expressions is the polar opposite.
That without even touching the literary origin of the WMT that makes them completely different narratively.

>>155090168
tldr if you prefer love live you don't belong on /a/

>>155089103
>implications that moe and fanservice are bad
>calling S1 mediocre
>calling K-On kitsch
I fucking hate academia

>>155090629
Themes like the proper balance between selfishness and selflessness. No, it wasn't a true deconstruction, but it was a great tragic tale with something to say.

>>155090688
Was there anything interesting about Madoka's direction aside from the art direction?
I only remember episode 10 being particularly well directed outside of looking unique.

>>155090831
Is the moe aesthetic not kitsch?

>>155090688
The only thing that Madoka did well was the inu curry section. K-On blew Madoka off the park otherwise.
Have you seen the K-On movie? You can just pause the movie at any frame and screenshot it to show how well directed it is.

>>155090875
>Themes like the proper balance between selfishness and selflessness.

How was this any special?

>>155090878
I love the final scene of episode 8 where the camera zooms in on Kyubey framed by a crescent moon.

>Yui = Honk (Meme leader)
>Ritsu = Nico (Comedy relief)
>Mio = Umi (No-fun officer)
>Mugi = Kotori (Gentle curious girl)
>Azusa = Maki (Annoying junior)
Did I got that right?

its fucking obvious.
K-on! have character development and good music
while Love Live are just fapbait and shilling fanservice.

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>>155091094
>maki
>annoying junior
go fuck yourself

>>155090998
It's deeper than "we're all going to graduate soon!/we won't have our club activities anymore!' Just about every SOL show has that theme.

>>155086821
maybe but k-on is still better

>>155085389
K-on is life

What is the appeal of Yui?

>>155091171
>"we're all going to graduate soon!/we won't have our club activities anymore!'

That's fucking nitpicking though. There have been great shows out there. Saying it was great because one genre was popular at that time is a bullshit criteria.

>>155090688
K-On is one of the best directed modern TV anime and the staging in any Noriko Takao episode blows Madoka away. It's also why Idolmaster is much better than Love Live.

>>155091233
watch episode 13 again with that in mind

>>155091171

Deeper huh. No wonder madokafags were a mutated bunch of Evafags.

>>155091233
I can't really explain it yet but that famous episode in S2 made me truly appreciate and love Yui.

I should rewatch the entire series.

>>155091233
>friendly
>silly
>lazy
>produces results when needed

Almost feels like she was tailored to shounenfags

is love live better than either of the idolmasters? i liked both idolmasters

one comparison is that

k-on = people who actually play music / love live idol stuff = /mu/ where they don't actually play music

>>155091308
in which season?

>>155091365
Please don't associate Madokafags with us.
Utena is our maho shoujo of choice.

>>155091639
the first

>>155091667
but Ritsu and Mio are way more interesting in that episode

>>155091718
like I said, approach it with Yui's role in mind and use that as an interpretation of her character

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>>155089103
This guy is the most pretentious asshole I can imagine, but he's essentially correct. I'm going to bookmark this for the next time my pretentious asshole friends try to start shit.

>>155090956
"Moe" is a feeling, not an aesthetic or genre.
You might as well be talking about the " 'Beautiful' aesthetic." It's totally subjective.

>>155091159
>Nicofag defending Maki
R A R E
A
R
E

>>155091265
So how is it more special than >>155090875?

>>155091171
People like you are why /a/ hates Madoka with a fiery passion now.

>>155091854
It's a feeling too, yeah. If you're uncomfortable using it outside that context, then substitute it with whatever makes you happy because I'm certain you know the aesthetic I'm referring to.

>>155091394
Which episode?

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>>155092237

>>155092016

What the fuck are you saying? Did you just misquote?

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>>155086425
You're right IM@S doesn't have Maki. That's why it's better.

>>155092105
Aesthetics are objective, feelings are subjective.
Pick one.

>>155093265
Boy do I love arguing semantics

>>155091507
It's better than the 765Pro anime and S2 of CG

>>155093543
That's not a semantic difference, they're literally different things.

>>155092477
How is "we're going to graduate soon! BAWWWW" more profound than the balance of selfishness and selflessness?

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When I came to this thread, I was expecting pleople to be sensible. I was surprised by how many pleople chose false advertising moebait that goes nowhere over LL.

>>155093870

It's not. I didn't say it was. I was questioning how Madoka was special. Keep trying to make a comparison to K-ON's "depth" if you want but that still won't paint Madoka in a better light.

Music: K-ON
Characters: LL
Plot: LL
Waifu Material: K-ON
Art: K-ON
Animation: K-ON
Yui vs Honoka: Yui

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>>155094209
>Characters: LL

>this shit is better than an actual good anime because it panders to my fat otaku preferences!!!!

Gotta love how /a/ is not any better than /v/. Full of hipsters that hate Love Live because it's popular with "le normies XDDDD"

I love LL, but K-ON deserves our utmost respect for popularizing the tropes we enjoy today and ushering in the era of cute girls doing cute things
Anime wouldn't be what it is today if it weren't for K-ON

>>155094735
lmao LL popular with the normies?

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Why can't we agree that both are great

>>155094028
>false advertising moebait that goes nowhere

Sounds like both shows.

>>155090154
>Madoka ended up being just a fad

That must be why we still get about five threads a day about it. Meanwhile most of the K-On threads we see parrot the masterpiece meme and often have similar posting styles. Makes you think.

>>155095535
K-ON! is a music anime in the same way Resident Evil 4 is survival horror. LL delivers SoL and idolshit.

>K-ON!
>"Lets perform at Budokan!"
>Budokan's never brought up again

>Love Live
>"Let's perform at Love Live!"
>They perform at Love Live.

Never even watched K-on but I made it through the original Love Live and the movies

Came for K-On
Stayed for Love Live!

>>155096000

>a bunch of Amateurs with some never playing an instrument in their entire lives
>Budokan

You're a god damn fool.

>>155095922
Literally this

>>155095922
the better question is, K-On! vs BanG Dream!

>>155095922
>bang dream
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

It is funny how bushiroad heavily promoted this yet it got upstaged by anime adapted from a dead game with zero advertisement.

Why does every fucking idol show insist on having English in its title? (I'm not talking about K-on, I know that's japanese)

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>>155096033
I'm no more a fool than Sunrise is for making noob idols legendary.

>>155096929
And in less time I might add.

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Love Live has Nico so it wins

Marathoned S1 of K-On recently. Does it get any better in S2 or should I just give up? The show doesn't seem to even try being anything else but these girls being cute and silly. It doesn't really have anything else going for it.

>>155099418
Nice blog

>>155099418
Not really. I tried giving it a chance, watched both seasons and the movie. While it's by no means bad, I find it kind of boring. It's just a cute relaxing show and little else, although there's nothing wrong with that.

>>155099829
>>155099418
Is this the part where I get to scoff at the plebeians who don't understand the deep themes in K-On?

>>155099892
If you have to ask, you don't get to.

I don't understand how anyone can choose Love Live when it had far too many deadweight characters (Eli and to an extent Rin and Hanayo). I'm not going to pretend that the K-On! girls were that much better but at least the main girls were relevant and important to the show. Or is this just a case that you all are just fanboying over certain characters (Nozomi or Maki or whatever) that you just overlook the problems the shows characters had?

>>155100039
The number of character in Love Live is double that of K-on plus they actually do stuffs like practicing, attend competition and dance on PVs so there are so much less time to focus on individual character.

Love Live is much better than K-on.

>>155100320
No it isn't. I'd take a smaller but more character focused then Love Live's bullshit any day.

>>155100039
I'm seeing more people choose K-On over LL in this thread, though.

>>155100320
As an idol show, sure, which is what you're basically describing, K-On is a slice of life, its focus lies in characterization, interaction and development.

>>155100320
>they actually do stuffs like practicing, attend competition and dance
Why do you think there inherent value in having any of these things in a show?

>there are so much less time to focus on individual character.
Yeah that's the point.

>>155100320
But you just explained why K-On is better

is there any drama shit in love live? i hated the drama in both idolmaster anime

>>155101943
Yes and except for the drama in S2, it's all awful.

>>155094209
>Music: K-ON
Spotted the anime only watcher.

K-On is a generic waifu manga that got a very, very sharp anime.

LL is a metaproject with some incredible human narrative - it was intended to be pure waifu pump and dump, yet somehow the collection of amateurs, never-wases, and old hags who were "supposed" to be cheap labor for forgettable C-tier fapfuel like Baby Princess or Ohimesama Navigation managed to develop their talents, grow as people, overcome the part where the whole project was almost shuffled off stage, and pull off the cringe-to-stardom story that was implausible even for their characters. Yet the anime in and of itself is the forced meme part of the package.

They're kind of mirror images of each other in that way, so it makes sense that the anime board likes the one with the better anime that embodies all its strong points.

>>155085458
fpbp

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I kinda wish Nico was part of a show half as good as K-ON because she's the only good thing about Love Live.
Everyone else is bland and forgettable, especially the main three girls. But Nico is very funny. Not even a waifufag.

Oh, and K-on's best and only music is from the anime, while most of LL's really standout tracks come from spinoff albums where individual members are given chances to shine and express themselves in ways that the anime doesn't have time for.

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K-On was a better production with a lot of soul and great music but its ultimately over and there will be no new content ever. The Raibu train, on the other hand, has no brakes even if a lot of the content can be bland or hit/miss.

I almost regret not watching Sunshine because I like some of the music so much.

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K-ON is better, but I like Love Live too. K-ON overall has better girls.

>>155102628
LL is a larger than life story which is actually true

>>155085389
Love Live has sexier girls.

>>155095646
What are you talking about? Madoka threads have been dead for years at this point. There's only a few /soc/ posters and ACK that post in them when they pop up

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Great taste in this thread.

>>155095646
my friend are you trying to cite 4chan as proof of Madoka's relevance?

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How does Nu K-On factor into all of this?

>>155104830
Series is okay, the fantasy element was extremely unnecessary though. The movie's good.

>>155104830
Not good but at least it has Horiguchi

I like K-on's songs way better, so yeah.

>>155096097
It's funny how you think it matters when the game topped ipad grossing chart and get in top 10 for android and iphone top gorssing chart in a week.

Not to mention the music and the live events doing good too.

>>155104830
It's good, especially the movie. Not K-On level though.

Also,

>Nu

FUCK OFF

Is there any Love Live song as good as this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l6WQlmJkaI

>>155085779
>>155089387
>>155089433
K-On led to Idolm@ster 2011. From Idolm@ster came Love Live and hence the Golden Age of Idol Anime.

>>155096096
Anime-wise, K-On.

Nonetheless, K-On is the past and Bandori is the future. It's been close to a decade since K-On aired and 3rd Season hasn't happened.

I'm sticking with Bandori.

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>>155085458
>K-On actually has good characters

>>155106090
He isn't wrong.

>>155106049
>K-On is the past and Bandori is the future
Only in a literal sense.

>>155106090
Every character in K-ON except for Jun is amazing.

>>155085389
The shows are completely incomparable.

>>155105931
>K-On led to idolm@ster
This has got to be bait

>lolbukatsu
literal shit
both of them

>>155085389
Well I actually got past episode 3 of K-on

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>>155096000
Did you miss
>"This is our budokan!"
From the end of season 1? Cause you missed the entire arc of the season and the point of the show if you did, you backwater fucking philistine.

>>155105931
>First release‎: ‎The Idolmaster‎; July 26, 2005

>>155095413
Nope.

>>155106355
Im@s 2011 the Anime you twat.

>>155105806
basically every character single released pre-anime was fucking stellar

>>155105806
It's hard to tell what people mean by "as good", but here's something in a similar western nostalgic pop style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbqosoDFmTE

There's also things like this for the whole band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNmoEK1ZMjM

Or some solos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR_p8sqA1ZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8glGsQn6PG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlEtfKCdRUQ

>>155106163
Why not Jun?

>>155106252
I haven't seen idolmaster, but there's a very obvious Horiguchi influence.

>>155106412
>no love marginal or spicaterrible

por favor, senior

>>155106498
Idolmaster was also directed by Noriko Takao, who previously worked at Kyoani and was one of the best episode directors for K-On

>>155106252
The idea is that K-On showed music based anime can be extremely popular and A-1 adapted Idolm@ster. Im@s showed an Idol Anime can be a success without giant robots.

From there, we've had successful Idol shows selling toys for kids and then Love Live itself which showed these anime can have mainstream appeal worldwide. Ever since then, plenty of gaming and anime studios have jumped on the train trying to grab their own share.

If that's not enough, now we have at least three 'Band' mobages on top of various other anime dedicated to various genres of music.

>>155106573
>no spicaterrible
>last one is spicaterrible

But yeah, there's plenty more. I just didn't want to post a wall of links, but did want to include one of the "real singers" and one of the ones everyone hates sounding great.

Love Live doesn't even have scenes like this
>>>/wsg/1612668

>>155106719
Why doesn't KyoAni make scenes like this anymore?

>>155106669
But nobody hates kotori

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxumgBAo9u4

>>155106765
What do you mean?
Hibike had scenes like that.

>>155106765
Eupho had lots of stuff like that. Goes to show that stuff like that alone doesn't make a good show.

>>155085389
>Typical Kyo-Ani shit with only 4 Waifus, and that's if you have shit taste and was forgotten about a year after the content was done
>Sunrise taking a risk, and making a success that somehow managed to make more than BIBLE OF JAPAN ONE PIECE last year, and has AT LEAST 5 waifus just from Muse alone
Typical Hipster /a/. It's popular so it MUST be bad.

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>>155106873
>Eupho isn't a good show

>>155107013
Yuribait etc, you know how it always goes.

https://my.mixtape.moe/gzlgch.mp4

>>155107013
It's a bad show with a collection of really good moments, in my books.

>>155107336
>bad show
Why?

>>155085389
Keion is one of the greatest anime ever made. Love Live is just ok

>>155106140
That is the literal sense.

If you want new band anime, go with Bandori. If you don't like that, there's SB69.

K-On exists in the past and endless repeats on free to air.

>>155107362
Just my reaction to watching it. If you like it, that's great, I don't care to try and fight you on that.

>>155107336
S1 would be perfect if the "Reina loves Taki" plot point was removed. S2 has botched writing all around but still has too much greatness in it to call it a bad show I think

>>155085389
The keions are pure. The love lives are fapbait sluts. No contest.

>>155107453
Bang Dream is okay and I'm watching it and playing the game, but I don't even think it compares to K-ON at all.

Honoka is just awful if they replaced the MC of Love Live it would have been a lot better.

>>155085389
K-on has Mugi.
I think that says enough.

>>155085389
CHECKBAN

>>155085389
well... apparently k-on tried covering an iron maiden song... so...

>>155090785
>WMT were all about sobriety and realism

This, so much. It doesn't have any of the usual animu jokes with exaggerated responses.

Even when it has some comedy like Lucy, the facial expressions are drawn without resorting to easy caricatures. That's why I like them so much.

It stands in contrast with the other anime of its time which all uses the common gag faces.

>>155107489
I call everything bad these days, don't mind me. It's better than most for sure

>>155085389
LL is better in every way.

>>155106719
>Mio falls in love with Yui in this scene
>it's never mentioned again
What the fuck Kyoani

>>155108553
She doesn't. That scene is about Mio finally realizing what makes the light music club special. It's not the music, it's the girls.

>>155108553
it's when the audience falls in love with Yui, not Mio

>>155108777
And none of that was explicitly stated, just shown. If K-On was on the level of love live the big breasted onee-chan character would have blatantly exposed everything to the audience while the visual presentation wouldn't have reflected any of it.

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>>155108553
>>Mio falls in love with Yui in this scene

>>155108942
Clearly Love Live is better.

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Are Ritsu and Mio intended to be gay? I know they could just be very close friends, but after seeing Tamako Market and Eupho, it feels like Yamada wanted them to be lesbians.

>>155108553
Fuck off.

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>>155109480
Makes me wonder

>>155085389
>Which is better, AIDS or HIV?

K-On is one the best anime ever made, why would you even compare it to LL

>>155109618
You can ask your mom.

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>>155109480
I don't think so. I do believe Midori was gay and I do believe Yamada shipped KumiRei but I don't believe Ritsu and Mio were supposed to be more than just very good friends.

>>155109713
Midori a cute

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>>155109618
someone hates moe anime... kek.. bad case of mondays.

The Difference between HTT and PoPiPa

HTT
>Talk about going to the Budokan
>Never actually perform at the Budokan

PoPiPa
>Aim is to perform at a small venue dedicated for Girl Bands
>3d PoPiPa will actually perform at the Budokan later this year.

Where's Digibro where you need him?

>>155109480
>Are Ritsu and Mio intended to be gay
For sure. Ritsu especially... she's a stereotypical dyke.

>>155109921
There are definitely scenes where Ritsu's interactions with Mio are outright depicted in the same way as a little boy who has a crush on a girl

>>155085389
>no strawpoll
K-on is a masterpiece on its own. Love Live has too many characters and they're all shit.

K-ON just because of how fun it was on /a/ back then.

-K-ON tuesdays with obligatory Ritsu pic
-All those ps_x livestream thread
-gg and Coalguys' faggotry back and forth with some troll subs on the sides
-Constant Oricon ranking
-K-ON general shitposting
-Azusa winning saimoe
-A Mod giving K-ON a sticky as a send off for the finale
-Some American politician fucked up a link by missing one letter which hilariously directed to the cross dressing bassist who covered K-ON songs back then which incidentally was mother fucking Fuwafuwa time. Mods gave the general thread an audio loop vid as a result of the fiasco.
-MD Gheist
etc.

I may be looking at things with a rose colored glasses but I haven't had this much fun in anime while also browsing /a/.

KLK came somewhat close.

>>155112736
>all the shit /a/ does with a lot of other anime

The desperation is real. I find it funny how there are 328 posts here since both anime literally have nothing. 'You faggots will argue about anything' even if there's nothing in the first place.

>>155112848
What do you mean literally have nothing? Both were megahits.

>>155112848
K-On is a masterpiece and I just pity the people who still don't recognize it

>>155112848
That thing with the mislinked tweet doesn't happen every day though.

Well you had to have been there and you probably weren't.

>>155085389
K-On a best
I haven't even watched Love Live

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>>155112736
>-Azusa winning saimoe
she's so damn annoying!

mugi

glad we could all agree on K-ON being superior in every way. Now back to the other threads

>>155085389
I
WANT
TO
CUM
IN
JUN
PUFFS

EEEEERRRRRRRGGGJGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>155109821
slowly dying in his cabin

>>155106163
Even Jun is amazingly well-characterized for how little screentime she gets.

>>155112848

What desperation?

K-ON was full of happenings. Like anon said >>155113043

One of those was event went to local news.

https://www.cnet.com/news/meg-whitmans-campaign-links-to-man-in-tutu/

I like both a lot, but they aren't really comparable. They're pretty different overall.

>>155085389
K-On is superior by orders of magnitude, the insinuation that they are anywhere near the same level is an insult in and of itself.

>>155112736
>Some American politician fucked up a link by missing one letter which hilariously directed to the cross dressing bassist who covered K-ON songs back then which incidentally was mother fucking Fuwafuwa time.
When was this? Do you have source?

>>155123616
http://twitter.com/#!/sarahpompei/status/27781137692