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Why is Joey treated like a buffoon in the anime when he's one of the best duelists? He nearly won Duelist Kingdom and was only beaten by the literal king of games.
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>>137750290
lost to kaiba in episode 16, lost to tea/anzu multiple times off screen during episode 2
lost due to technicality to marik
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Because he's from Brooklyn.
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>>137750290

Look at his hair.
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>>137750290
Are you watching the 4Kids dub? Even Kaiba respects him after facing Marik.
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Standard Yugioh formula

There's gotta be a character we like who jobs a lot so MC can avenge him

In DM it's Joey

In GX it's that Obelisk Blue guy

In 5Ds its everyone who is not named Yusei

In Zexal it's Shark

In Arc-V it's the pink haired girl
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His deck really powered up during battle city thanks to the ante rule.
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>>137750737
>Insect queen, fortress whale, legendary fisherman useful in a warrior deck
Jinzo was the only good thing he got.
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>>137750723
>GX
>5Ds
>Zexal
>Arc-V
My autism level is not high enough to know what any of those things are.
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he uses Swordsman of Landstar. Unironically. He deserves everything he gets.
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He's poor and usually refrains from taking Yugi's charity so a lot of his deck is gambling based. Therefore its easy to attribute his wins to dumb luck and therefore not take him seriously.
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>>137751053
>On anime board
>Doesn't know about the Yu-Gi-Oh spinoffs
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>>137750839
Oh joey never really used fortress whale since he doesn't have the ritual card.
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>>137751243
Well in the series only powerful duelists have access to rare cards and it's just his style.
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>>137751053
>Being this tremendous of a faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN0gcfrSxs
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>>137750839
Didn't he get Gilford from an ante though?
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>>137752130
No he had Gilford the whole time, he just never mentioned that he had a card that strong and never used it.

Gilford legacy support when?
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>>137750381
>Can't think up a way to defeat Joey
>Oh, I know! I'll combine with Ra and knock him out using the effects of this one-sided shadow game I forced on him
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>>137752234
Ah, okay. Forgot about that. Still wonder where he got that, though I know the answer is just for plot convenience.
>Gilford legacy support when?
That's exactly what I want too. Gilford was always one of the cooler DM monsters; it's got a good design, arguably fits his deck more than Red-Eyes, and is like a mini Obelisk.
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>>137751346
If I were him, I would have sold some of my super rare cards and used the money to build a consistent, competitive deck. He has tons of those cards they're useless in his deck anyway.
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>>137750723

People liked Joey?

People liked Shark?
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>>137750723
For arc v it's sawatari
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>>137753239
>I would have sold some of my super rare cards
He was taught by Yugi's grampa and brain washed him into believing that the cards are linked to your heart.
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>>137750290
He got beaten in DM only because Yugi cheated again

>"nuh-uh, the Time Wizard doesn't affect my Dark Magician because old Magicians are smarter"
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>>137755703
Its the same bullshit Joey used to win against some of his opponents.
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>>137755518
That's the biggest problem with this series. It's a pure shonen series, but instead of a unrealistic fighting series where the author could create whatever power level or nakama shit and readers could do nothing but accept since it's his imaginary world after all, it's about a card game which is exist in real life with establish, clear strict rule. As someone who's also play that game, I feel incredibly ashamed every single time seeing them dueling in the series.
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>>137750839
Which he never used. Even against the guy who's entire deck was trap cards.
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>>137750839
manga Fisherman was decent since it was just a 4 star 1900 beatstick at a time where that was pretty rare
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>>137755963
The game came after the anime.
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>>137756397
I thought it came after the manga?

Anyway it doesn't justify how characters in later Yugioh series like GX or 5D duel.
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>>137756904
He only did DM and a much shorter and different GX to completion
He doesn't really care for the game itself its just his money machine. He likes other tabletops a lot more
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>>137750658
It looks like a box
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Remember that time Joey had only monster cards in his deck? I remember that time.
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>>137750707
really? wow!
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>>137750290
he's the hot blooded comic releif, what did you expect?
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>>137758754
victory is mine
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enough of these games, i have won
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>>137750290
He would probably be King of Games, if every single person he dueled wasn't a cheater.
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>>137758815

IMPOSSIBLE
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>>137753554
>People liked Shark
Shark had good duels.

Literally anyone is loveable when you compare them to fucking Yuma
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I remember watching his match with Marik when i was a kid.

Still fucking mad at that bullshit.
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>>137758815
congratulations
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>>137750290
when a genius sits in a room filled with prodigies he would be laughed at by them even if he's better than almost everyone else outside of the room
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The biggest jobber of the series is this guy. Dude is fucking perfect but always finds some dumb reason to lose.
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>>137756904

The anime world is a bit different. They go heavy on the romanticism. The fact is, that ideally a card game or any game really would have room for you to play with your favorites and win assuming you had a decent strategy. The reality is that because they need to shill cards that doesn't happen and there's clear distinctions in power between decks and you can't take shit cards and support them to be good.

In anime world though they aren't shilling cards for other people to buy. We only run into like one, maybe two, other people that have Dark Magicians. Blue Eyes only has 4 copies ever printed. In later series, people apparently just magically create and obtain more archetype support for whatever deck they're running. None of the actual deck building rules apply in a world like that.

It's like if someone was running E-Drags, someone else would just magically, mystically, create archetype support for their deck that totally shut them out. So while I do get your frustration the whole world of the anime just happens to work off of a different "meta" if you will.
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Kaiba wasn't THAT autistic
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>>137750381
>he thinks losing duels matters
Joey grows as a duelist much more than any other character over the course of the series, including Yugi.
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>>137755380
>sawatari
>good
I think Sawatari's purpose in the series is to be made fun of for changing his deck up too often, it's like it's mocking him for not having faith in his cards and restyling his whole theme every time he loses.
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How many times has Yugi cheated?
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>>137760009
>Mr "I'm going to kill myself if I lose this children's card game"
>perfect
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Reminder that Arc-V let the MC literally pull shit out of his ass that no one in the history of Duel Monsters had ever seen or even known to be a facet of the game to turn the tide in a duel he should've lost and no one said anything just because computers said it was okay.
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>>137760590
literally everytime he mentions the heart of the cards
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>>137750290
Because his character devolved into BROOKLYN RAGE
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>>137750381
>lost due to technicality to marik
Marik is a shit tier duelist and only wins his duels through technicalities and magic torture,even fucking Mai could beat him easily.
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>>137760618
>"I'm going to use my polymerization card to fuse my mammoth skeleton to your blue eyes white dragon and that will make it melt because one card is undead and the other isn't!"
>"I'm going to aim cannon tortoise at your floating castle's gravitation ring and that will cause it to fall down on you!"
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>>137760685
Forgivable because it's the original series and I like it better on principle. I mean I could say some bullshit like "it was before the tcg" but shit, might as well be honest with you.
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>>137760618
Reminder that the MC of Zexal swapped out a card that was going to make him lose for a different card that let him win.
After drawing said card.
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>>137760605
He's just really autistic.

Like so much so he puts 90% of /a/ to shame.
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>>137760792
>implying you wouldn't want a blue eyes white dragon jet
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>>137760009
>Kaiba
>perfect
That's not Reiji.
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>>137760659
Shut up wheeler
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>>137760685
That doesn't count given it's legal within the realm of Duelist Kingdom rules. What Yuya did was just a straight up ass-pull.
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>>137760685
>people still not get that the entirety of duelist kingdom was written as a RPG with cards
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>>137762278
>What Yuya did was just a straight up ass-pull.
But the rules allowed it, so by your logic it was completely fine.
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>>137750290
>one of the best duelists
He's a complete shitter and he doesn't have any magic to back him up.
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>>137750290
Because he uses his angel/devil dice RNG deck to win which doesn't has skill
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If Kaiba is so rich why don't he just create his own overpowered cards?
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>>137762341
No? Pendulum didn't exist within the established rules of standard. He basically created a new mechanic that was never seen before. With Duelist Kingdom you could do all that shit because Pegasus made the rules that way according to what Weevil told Yugi on the boat.
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>>137762438
Pegasus' company made the cards and only made them based on ancient egyptian shit he found and siphoned magic from.

Kaiba just helped promote it.
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>>137762518
>Pendulum didn't exist within the established rules of standard
When people try to do things that are against the rules the system doesn't let them.
>With Duelist Kingdom you could do all that shit because Pegasus made the rules that way according to what Weevil told Yugi on the boat.
If you watched it you'd realise that nothing was mentioned about just making up effects. The rules were things like no direct attacks, 2000 life points and the special fields.
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>>137758815
Victory is yours, but this 9 is mine
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>>137760009
MY BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON
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reminder that despite all the magic and shadow duels happening around him, the fact that he was LITERALLY transported to ancient Egypt after touching a ancient stone slab with his likeness on it

Kaiba DOES NOT believe in Egyptian magic
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>>137763233
why would he?
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>>137763233
>literally believes Pegasus uses magic during Duelist Kingdom arc
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Ritual Yuya when?
Blonde Ruri when?
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>>137763233
>watching the dub
Fuck off.
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>>137760581
Not gonna lie I find Sawatari endearing because I know a faggot just like him.
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>>137763233
>believing in magic
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>>137764852
>Not believing in magic.
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>>137764852
>>>/m/agic-exists
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>>137750290
Will we see him duel in the new movie? Even if it's just a scene of him defeating some goons showing some of new cards to shill
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>>137762438
Because only people whose name start with "Yu" could pull new cards out of his ass.
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>>137763233
>actually believing in tricks and light shows
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Logically speaking Kaiba shouldn't have lost to Yugioh once he lost exodia. I mean he has access to the best cards in the game and virtual reality simulations, only reason Yugi won was because of plot armour.
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>>137765175
He won because he was the king of games and we learn later he has the power to literally will cards to the top of his deck. Also, in the show, it's supposed to be whoever is the most skilled wins the duels, whereas in reality, the game is all about luck/best cards.
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>>137765175
You know what's funnier? Yugi's deck actually doesn't support Exodia. Anyone who knows his gimmick and tries to win ASAP will achieve victory.
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>>137750381
>losing to the world champ in the first twenty episodes
>losing when he had just started
>marik, the big bad of the arc, had to cheat to win

Nah, he grew the most as a duelist.
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>>137765081
>Yuack Atlas
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>>137764852
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>>137765127
Doesn't Mr. Satan believe in it?

Something about his martial arts master being killed by someone who uses ki blasts, making him hold a grudge against anyone who uses it?
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>>137750290
Joey's deck fucking sucks, anyone who has ever tried making a Joey character knows this.
Playing through story mode in Yugioh Legacy of the Duelist is painful if you play Joey's levels using his story deck.
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>>137756291
No the problem wasn't that he didn't use Jinzo it was that he had the shit luck of not drawing it for like 3/4s of the dual, then he drew and basically won.
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>>137762913
King of Faggotry strikes again!
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>>137765489
No his master was killed by Tao Pai Pai.
Who yes, can use Ki blasts but is such a fucking monster that he probably killed Satan's master with pure martial arts. Remember he killed Blue with his fucking Tongue and Blue was no pushover
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>>137764852
>>137764862
>>>/jp/
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>>137762393
>implying card games aren't inherently RNG
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I was always a fan of the TCG and still am to this day, so recently I've actually taken it upon myself to watch the anime.
Joey is by far the best character, he really grows as a character and a duelist and his duels are always the most fun to watch, it's great to see how well he does even when lacking the rare card privilege Kaiba and Yugi seem to boast.
though it's a shame even after all his accomplishments he is still treated like shit by his peers.
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>>137750381
Yami Marik's an enormous cheater. He should have lost against Mai & Joey.
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>>137770206
If Yugi was allowed to cheat in every of his duel, other character should have the right to do it once or twice too.
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