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How does anyone actually like this shit?
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The best anime ever, without any doubt, is Angel Beats. Not only is the plot amazing, it delivers important themes about society and has a lot of symbols about religion. Pisses me off that people don't understand how beautiful this anime is and I just want to punch them in the face.
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>>137473430
I recognize that it's quite terrible,every character is retarded and so were the shadow plot devices. But I liked it. Despite being retarded I found them to be quite endearing and the final death scene was handled quite well.
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>>137473553
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"Muh feels"
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Well considering the only memorable character was TK...
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>>137473430
When the studio tryhards this much, someone is going to fall for it. I mean it literally put everything on a list of "THINGS PEOPLE REALLY LIKED" into a show with no coherent plot and a cast of characters stolen from other shows. Some people are easily fooled.
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>>137473430
Better than any kyoanus shit.
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>>137474007
t. EVAfag
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I thought you all were just pretending that you liked it.
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>>137474207
they like it ironically but then the irony was lost on the masses
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I liked a couple of episodes, but overall the series was quite bad
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>>137474267
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>>137473430
Some people have different tastes, anon.
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It was pretty good, it wasn't anything special but it killed time and was entertaining enough that I didn't have to pause it every 5 minutes. I don't get how people link it with Clannad for muh feels though, I thought Angels Beats pretty happy considering it revolved around people getting rid of their regrets and moving on.
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The first episode was pretty good. But then they did a complete tonal shift and instead of being a cynical comedy it turned into tryhard highschool fantasy garbage. I guess that explains why coalguys didn't sub episode 2.
I can't even remember if I dropped it or not.
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>>137478065
Sigh
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>>137473430
character's were amusing enough that I felt bad about the MC losing everything. It wasn't great but I wouldn't call it shit also the OVA gave me a smile.
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Teens tend to eat up forced drama.
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>>137474036
Irrelevant, retard.
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I liked the shitty ending
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>>137473430
Some of the gags are arguably the best Maeda has ever been involved with. Not that that's saying much.
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I liked it despite the weak plot
characters were good enough to carry me to the final episode so I don't really see why you'd hate it for reasons other than trying to fit in
if it got released this season I'd watch it without a second thought
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Maybe the VN is good?
I don't know because I haven't played it. But it was clear the story might've been good with 4-cours.

>guy tries to kill everyone
>next day they visit said guy in the hospital after their fight and are acting friendly together
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How was his heart in tenshi if she had been in the heaven place for longer than him? Doesn't that mean she died first? But how can that be if his donated heart made her live longer? What was the point of giving a heart to a girl who was gonna die a few days later anyway? Nothing adds up.
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>>137481035
>What was the point of giving a heart to a girl who was gonna die a few days later anyway?
Self gratification and better than nothing?
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>>137481121
The doctors/health system decides where the heart goes. They wouldn't waste such a precious organ on a terminal girl. Unless her parents were loaded as fuck and bought their way up the queue.
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>>137481285
I don't fucking know why you try to make sense out of Angel Beats.
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>>137481411
Because how do you write a story so obviously flawed?
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Most likely they only remember the first part of the show plus the OP and forget the terribly rushed second part

It's been like 7 years now so it's about in that time frame where only the good is remembered
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>>137481475
Nah it wasn't rushed. It was perfect.
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>>137481447
Have you read the VN?

>>137481475
The first part wasn't particularly good either
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>>137481514
I don't read books much.
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>>137481544
How can you call something poorly written if you haven't read it?
>books
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>>137481475
AngelBeats! was a big success at the time. As impossible as it seems, people did actually genuinely like it.
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>>137481570
Yeah I know I remember when it aired and this was the general consensus
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>>137481504
Are you kidding? The major events of the plot don't even start until episode 9. More than half the characters just disappear in episode 11 with no development whatsoever.
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t.tolkien
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>>137481567
Because there's a tv show about it?
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>>137481655
Well we just like different things then I guess. I thought the ending was great, really gave a sense of calamity and everyone disappearing and shit. It was very confronting.
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>>137481940
You can create a sense of calamity without rushing the ending. The things that actually happen in the ending are fine, they just should have taken a longer time getting there.
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>>137481906
That's an adaptation
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>>137482454
ANgelBeats isn't an adaptation.
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It was the first anime I watched so it always has a special place in my heart.
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>>137482693
You could literally not be any newer
Angel beats came out like 3 years ago
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>>137482736
Not him but Angel Beats is 6 years old now
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I liked it while it was a comedy, then at some point SAD SAD SAD kicked in.
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>>137473430
The first ten episodes are fucking fantastic, 10/10, the problem was the so out of place ending. It was like the author was doing his shit like he wanted on his own pace, like he had all the time in the world, and suddenly someone told him "yo dude, you have 3 more episodes" and then he was like "well fuck everything".
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>>137482509
But it is?
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>>137483032
What is an adaptation of?
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>>137483103
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Beats!
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>>137483151
You should probably read your own link. Nothing in there says or indicates AngelBeats is an adaptation. In fact, the opposite is made explicitly clear.
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>>137483353
>the opposite is made clear
>things that are clearly made before the anime ever came to be
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfW0glLj2pE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXvHv7BxUNs
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>>137483385
The others are spinoffs made at the same time as the anime.
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>>137483385
>Around the time Key completed the first release of their sixth visual novel Little Busters!, Hironori Toba of Aniplex (himself a fan of Key's works) approached Maeda around October 2007 about collaborating to produce an original anime series.

>The Aniplex producer of Angel Beats!, Hironori Toba, was interviewed in the November 2009 issue of Dengeki G's Magazine, where he commented that a 13-episode anime with about 21 minutes per episode was not enough to tell the whole story of Angel Beats! Maeda had envisioned. Therefore, the various additional media, such as the illustrated short stories and manga, contain some of the story that was unable to make it into the anime because of time constraints.
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>>137483513
? I can read an article myself.
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>>137483461
>made at the same time
Anon please. It's just an adaptation, just like the VN is. But the VN is the true adaptation. Because it was always meant to be a VN
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>>137483619
What? So is nothing an original work to you then?
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>>137483690
Slippery slope
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>>137473430

Autism
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>>137483708
You said both were adaptations. That can't be true. One has to be the original work.
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>>137483787
>only two exist
Again, I never said this.
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>>137483822
What is the original work then?
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>>137483578
So why do you think it's an adaptation? It's explicitly stated that AngelBeats was created as an original anime series. What is it supposed to be an adaptation of?
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>>137483853
>>>137483151
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>>137483860
I bet you think Charlotte is an original too.
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>>137483862
That doesn't answer the question. You've already said that neither the VN nor the anime was an original.
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>>137484520
>>>137483822
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>>137484590
What Angel Beats work is the original work?
Also why are you being deliberately obtuse?
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>>137484639
>Also why are you being deliberately obtuse?
I'm not, you're just retarded. Ask stupid questions: get stupid answers

>What Angel Beats work is the original work?
Read >>>137483151
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>>137484661
The Wikipedia article doesn't answer the question. If you think it does, please quote where it does.
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>>137484853
>spoonfeed me
If you can't read a wikipedia article. That's your issue, it's not my task to guide you.
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>>137485032
Not him but you're retarded
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>>137485032
The article says the anime was original. You're saying it's not. So I'm confused.
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>>137485186
Nice ad hominem. Prove me wrong or just fuck off, you're not contributing.

>>137485231
>I can't read an article
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>>137473430
Yeah Haruhi is great
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>>137473430
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>>137485249
>Maeda around October 2007 about collaborating to produce an original anime series.
Please tell me how you read this as Angel Beats not being original.
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>>137485249
You have lost your composure.
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>>137485347
>>>137483897
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Lost my shit when she launched the desks into the ceiling during class.

Pretty much the only bit I liked.
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>>137485412
Read >>>137485249
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>>137485416
Ok, so the Wikipedia article is wrong then. So what is the anime adapted from?
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>>137485416
And yet you still didn't answer the question.
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>>137485500
>>137485449
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>>137485525
Maeda around October 2007 about collaborating to produce an original anime series.
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>>137485500
>please answer off-topic shit
Stop moving goal posts.

>>137485525
If you reply to me, at least say something. Not contributing

>>137485482
Nice strawman
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Someone spoil me that apparently awful ending. I dropped the anime at episode 4 so I don't care.
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>>137485550
Nice troll.
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>>137485576
Not contributing.
Fuck off with the ad hominem. If you have no argument, don't say anything.
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>>137485551
Everyone reincarnates happily, MC and Tenshi meet again in their new lifes
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>>137485550
This is some next level trolling.

Mods crash this thread.

Also, >>137485550 Buddy.

see>>137485249. You haven't contributed once.
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>>137485618
>troll
stopped reading there.
read >>>137485607
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>>137485607
Well, where is YOUR argument?
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I thought the OP (the intro song) was pretty damn good
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>>137485631
Sure ya did, friendo. Sure ya did
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>>137485640
read the reply chain
Just because you think I have no argument however doesn't mean you're allowed to have none.
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I didn't find the antics funny, the art was pretty low-standard, and the twists didn't have enough punch to them because of unbelievable some of their behavior was.

The show didn't click with me at all, but I don't have a meltdown rage boner over it. It's not the same as someone saying Sword Art Online is the best animu ever because of sell-insert edgemeister.
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This thread is as incoherent as AngelBeats! itself.
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>>137485667
Your only argument was that AB is not an original anime, and that has already be proven as false.
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>>137485702
>what is YOUR argument
>your only argument is this
I'm getting mixes massages here.
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>>137485702
Just ignore him.

He's pretending to be retarded.
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>>137485734
So you don't have any real argument? Nice.
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>>137473430
I cried at the end.
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>>137485792
Mee too
Because it sucked so hard
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>>137485752
>y-y-your argument doesn't count
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>>137485855
>my argument is false, why does it not count
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>>137485551
Everyone dies offscreen
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>>137485855
You don't have one.

Since you've already proved you have a hard-on for post linking, how about you link your exact post with your original argument.

Because so far, you're wrong.
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>>137485614
What, that's it? Disappointing.
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>>137485947
At least that's what i remember, I know it was very rushed
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>>137485935
>you don't have one
>it doesn't count
Make up your mind already.

>>137485887
I never said that. Who are you quoting?
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>>137485990
Bye!
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The anime itself isn't all that bad how people make it look like ITT. It's just being overrated by casuals and newfags so bad it ruins it even more than poor story and characters
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>>137486015
not your blog
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>>137485990
Post your fucking argument, or don't post at all.
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>>137486087
Already did
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>>137486344
A wikipedia URL is not an argument
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>>137486377
I'm really unsure what you're trying to imply so I'll just ask:
What are you trying to imply?
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>>137486498

I'm really unsure what you're trying to imply so I'll just ask:
What are you trying to imply?
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>>137486530
Ah you're just shitposting because you lost the argument. Wagata-tebayo
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>>137486574

Ah you're just shitposting because you lost the argument. Wagata-tebayo
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>>137478065
>Pretty good = serves to kill time
Fuck off
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I actually remember arguments about AB's originality back in 2010.
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>>137481711
rip in pieces silkroad
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>>137486603
You'll never shitpost this hard
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>>137487059
You'll never shitpost this hard
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>>137473562
This exactly. It was stupid, but likeable. Poorly-trained but with retard-strength behind its emotional punches.
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>>137486344
Repeat your argument, in small words then.

Because linking to a wikipedia article that says the opposite of what you claim is not posting an argument.
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>>137487072
sad
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>>137487249
mad
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>>137487249
Not your blog
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>>137487146
>repeat your argument because X isn't an argument
Who said X was my argument?

>>137487252
Nope

>>137487266
?
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>>137473430
I feel like the ending theme made me like it.
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>>137487293
Angel beats is anime original.
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>>137487360
That's not my argument
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>>137487515
Then state your argument.
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>>137487515
You're the only one who thinks this is an adaption.
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>>137487669
>ad populum

>>137487620
I already did.
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>>137487718
You've said that so many times.

Please, state it again.
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>>137487754
>you've said that so many times
Because it's the truth.
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3 terrible characters
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I watched Angel Beats when I was in high school and liked it. I only remember certain things, not characters though, which speaks for the quality as whole.

All my friends thought the "My song" was the saddest part but the most relatable, realistic sad moment was when they "graduate" and all disappear.
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>>137487780
Please, state your argument again.
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>>137487835
Why can't you just read the fucking comment train?
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I wonder how long this can go on for.
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>>137482736
Angel beats only recently became vn. It's not an adaption.
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>>137487904
I did, and It's not clear to me which argument is yours.

You seem to like repeating things. Why not just state it again, and I'll do my best to give you that thrilling debate we both know you crave.
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>>137487961
>only two arguments
>hurr durr which one is yours
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>>137488002
Yes, Im dumb. So which one is yours?
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>>137488031
They usually say if it's not A it's B.
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>>137488053
So you think Angel Beats is an adaption?
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>>137488098
You're dumb and retarded, as you yourself have said. What makes you think you deserve the luxury of conversation?
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>>137488129
Because the rest of the board thinks the same thing about you, so I'm the only one still humoring you.

But if you're right, then you deserve a chance to prove it.
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>>137488180
>I'm just humoring you despite not knowing your side of the argument
Okay, you're also a liar on top of being dumb and idiotic. Gotchaforce
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>>137488129
>ad hominem
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>>137488268
> as you yourself have said
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>>137486638
all anime ONLY exists to kill time
if it does that well, then it's a good anime
this is objectively correct and you're a fool to disagree
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>>137488285
>ad hominem
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>>137488318
No, that's literally something that has been said. And I'm literally just quoting in my 2nd post.
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>>137488293
You're the fool for making assumptions for what a medium can or can't do.
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>>137488211
You can sidestep every response you get til the end of the thread. The only thing you've managed to prove is that your not worth anyone's time.

Maybe you had an argument once. Maybe you're just trolling for giiggles. But either way, you do yourself no credit.

Link me to whatever "No U!" comment you think is appropriate. Only you will see it.

Finally, see >>137485249
Your own words
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>>137488400
>sidestep
No, you literally are lying. Either you know my side of the argument and are humoring me, or you don't and are not humoring me.
It's that fucking simple. You're a liar.
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>>137488364
So your argument was that AB was an adoption of the VN. Which it obviously is not, but you don't want to admit that you are wrong and are now "trolling everybody". Epic, simply epic!
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>>137488458
If he was humoring your argument he would actually try to approach it instead of asking for what it is. At this point he's humoring you in a vain attempt to find out what your argument was in the first place.
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>>137488485
>adoption
kek
Neither was that my argument. But if it was, feel free to quote said statement.

>>137488498
>he
so he was lying. Case closed. Which is neither ad hominem, since it's the truth, and neither 'dumb' or 'idiotic' is ad hominem, because it's literally a quote.
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>>137488532

>>137481567
>>137482454
>>137483032
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>>137488532

This >>137482454 is your argument, is it not?
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>>137488532
You are either incredibly dense or an unusually effective troll.
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>>137488605
Its an incredibly dense troll
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>>137488571
>feel free to quote said statement.
>your argument was that AB was an adoption of the VN.
Come on, quote this claim with a statement of mine.

>>137488589
That's not an argument, it's a factually correct statement.

>>137488605
Keep namecalling and not contributing to the thread since you have no argument.
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>>137488637
>it's a factually correct statement
And this is where you're wrong. As long as you don't prove this, you're a troll.
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>>137488690
I've already proven said statement. Stop namecalling, act your age.
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>>137488637
No. Angel Beats is an original work.

read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Beats!

And try not to blow an O-ring
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>>137488733
A wikipedia link which says the opposite is no proof
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>>137488734
>original run november 2009
btfo
>more namecalling
act your age

>>137488764
Quote the part which is opposite.
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>>137488967
>cherrypicking
>"act your age"

highest kek buddy. Either post an argument or don't post at all.

Its been years since I've seen this level of incompetence.
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>>137489114
>cherrypicking
I never said that.
>"act your age"
What's with the quotations?

>Either post an argument or don't post at all.
The ironing.
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>>137488967
Even though there were a LN and manga before the anime aired, those were just spinoffs.
So how is the anime not original?
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>>137489142
Sidestepping again. It's a wonder you know how to communicate at all.

You must be pretty desperate for attention, to keep coming back for more and more anal ravishing.
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>>137489175
>the original isn't original but a spin-off
The mental gymnastics.
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>>137489221
The anime is the main story
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>>137489218
>sidestepping
read >>>137489142
>more ad hominem
Act your age.
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>>137489254
And the endless cycle of suck continues. You just can't answer the question no matter how hard you try.
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>>137489242
>moving the goal posts


>>137489298
You tried.
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>>137489329
>>moving the goal posts
Excuse me?
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>>137489346
You're moving the goal posts with this comment
>>>137489242
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>>137489329
You did it again. Still refusing to answer the question. Purposeful stupidity.
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>>137489424
Am I wrong? Please elaborate
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>>137489424
>moving the goalposts

I get it now. You don't know what that term means. That's not an example of moving the goalposts. Its the truth. The LN and Manga were based off the anime
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I got two episodes in and quit
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>>137489439
You tried

>>137489475
I'm not going to answer your strawman.

>>137489504
>strawmanning
I know what the term means and used it correctly.
>it's not moving the goal posts because it's the truth
non-sequitur.
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>>137489515
It's for the best. It was a terrible anime original.
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>>137489534
>>I'm not going to answer your strawman.
Please explain
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>>137489567
I'm not going to answer your strawman because it's a strawman.
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>>137489515
You didn't miss out on anything
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Currently watching, the problem I have with it is that a lot of characters go on about "my life was shit then I died"... then a minute or two after they try a joke.

It's very mixed and I don't think the studio knew what to do with it.
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>>137489606
Am I wrong?
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>>137489534
Get rekt faggot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
For him to strawman against you, you would've needed to have an argument in the first place.

Which we both know you don't :^)
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>>137489639
>It's very mixed and I don't think the studio knew what to do with it.
You'll get much more of that feeling once you reach the final episodes
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I liked the show because it was silly and fun, but even I know that the premise of the show was pretty lame
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>>137489649
read >>>137489606

>>137489753
That's both incorrect and irrelevant. A strawman is a strawman
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>>137490080
Why are you replying to my post, you gigantic faggot?
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>>137490113
Because you're in conversation with me. You're the one initiating a response by replying to me.
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>>137490150
I said to stop replying to my posts, nerd
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>>137490185
Feel free to leave
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just keyfags pretending like it was good

just ignore them
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People cried at the last few minutes of the show so they completely dismiss the last few episodes or just make excuses like "oh but it made me cry, don't you have a soul??"
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Damn this thread is still alive? Is that one faggot here still wasting his time?

>>137489424
>>137489534
>>137489606
>>137490080
>>137490150
>>137490230

Yep. Good for him
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>>137490393
>wasting
Social construct
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>>137490509
dumb frogposter
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>>137490544
you tried
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>>137490509
Whoa, slow down fucboi.

I don't talk to to retards.
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>>137490617
you tried
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>>137490544
>>137490393
>>137490185
This guy's great isn't he? Absolutely euphoric.
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>>137490738
You tried
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>>137490923
So did you. Harder than anyone.
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>>137490738
>>137490572
I said stop replying you turbonerd
I bed you never even kissed a girl, faggot
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>>137490978
>>137491137
you tried
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>>137491160
Shut up, kangaroofucker
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your next line will be "you tried"
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>>137491160
you tried
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>>137491183
>>137491438
you tried
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>>137491465
I said that you must stop replying you dumb fuck
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>>137491493
you tried
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>>137491465
you tried

new meme in here people.
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>>137491506

JESUS TITTYFUCKING CRACK SMOKING CHRIST ON A MOPED WHY ARE YOU STILL REPLYING?
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>>137491571
the irony

>>137491557
you tried
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>>137491616
(you)
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>>137491629
(tried)
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>>137491650
Here's your reply
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>>137491680
Here's yours.
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>>137491650
Fuck you, fag
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>>137491743
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>>137491802
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How autistic do you have to be to keep this shit up for this long? It has to be some special kind of autism where you are so far removed from normal social conduct that you find this entertaining enough to keep at it for this long. There wasn't an argument since the beginning and never was but falling for the bait for this long is pathetic.
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>>137492781
>ahaha another AB thread ruined. I am a master at my craft.
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>>137492876
The joke is that there was nothing that could be ruined in the first place
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