Reminder that if you have watched less than 200 TV series (not

Reminder that the same goes for anyone who uses MAL

Counting OVAs is stat stacking of the worst kind.

reminder if you are autistic enough to rate people's tastes with an "objective test" developed by you, you should probably kill yourself

>MAL

>>137441064
Not this time faggot.

https://sys.4chan.org/a/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=137441064&altc=1

I've dropped 200+ anime. I think that counts for more than completing them, since I know what's good and what's not.

I watched 200+ TVs and this is bullshit.
The minimum requirement should be 350.

>>137441410
Funny how people's 'objective test's never exclude themselves

>200

Try 750.

Reminder that anyone using the word "reminder" is a fucking faggot.

Why the fuck count the shit you've watched? Do you guys really like watching anime or is just for e-peen?

>if you've seen fewer anime than me then you know nothing and your opinions are shit
>if you've seen more than me then you're either lying or a no life loser
>if you've seen as many as me then you still don't like the right anime so your tastes are shit.

>>137441978
Nobody should like anime. Everything is 5/10 at best.

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>>137441064
Reminder that if you keep track of your shit on MAL, you have Asperger's.

>reposting a shit off-topic thread
Reported. This isn't /tv/.

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>>137441064
>Completed: 1210
>Dropped: 9

Sage this thread

The minimum requirement should be 350 Shows because I've seen 353. And if you've seen over 400 you're a weeb loser, unlike me I'm really cool.

>>137441494

Good

Post youtube celebrities and redditors before this thread gets pruned.

Why do people get so mad when you point out that they don't know anything about anime?

Most of /a/ are people who got into anime a year or two ago and have 50~ shows watched on average, and most ONLY watch seasonal shit.

There have been multiple polls to prove this, yet people ITT are getting mad about it.

I'm glad that streaming services like Funimation, Crunchyroll, and Daisuki exist.

>>137442569
gtfo newfag

>>137442549
I don't know any, or care to know any.

>>137442699
That's sad. Neither do I, unfortunately.

Reminder that if you make offtopic threads you are a cancer that must be purged.

MyAnimeList has a good database. Shame that it actually has such a worthless feature like a community.

>>137442549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8tf68o8uxI

I always fin it funny that the angry people in these threads always have tiny powerlevels. Truly a case of smallest dog has the loudest bark.

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>>137441064
>less
*fewer

>>137442937
>powerlevel is good

>>137443026
It is. Old /a/ lived by it.

>>137442911
You're doing a good work.

The old standard for number shows watched to have a decent opinion on anime has always been 100. I think that's fine, doesn't need to be changed, unless you're trying to make newfags mad, in which case go ahead, but they usually get mad at 100 too. I have 306 'TV' entries on MAL, to counter the "You have seen 101 shows" argument.

>>137442911
>nepnep
>anime

>>137443384
But there's more than 100 bad shows out there. If you have seen 100 shows of a certain genre. Maybe then you've got an opinion. But I've watched more than 100 movies without trying.

>>137443026
Fuck off back to facebook, faggot.

>>137443606
>there's more than 100 bad shows out there
There's more than a thousand bad shows out there, too.

>>137441064
Yeah man I'm sure that someone's opinion who watched 200+ 1 cour seasonal trash shows is more valuable than someone's who watched 100+ of 80/90s anime

>>137443556
I guess you missed the sao part and the nepnep anime

>>137443835
That art is a gamerip.

>>137443800
Because 80/90s anime sure are the cream of the crop.

>>137443800
>80/90s is better than modern stuff!
The only point you have is the 1-cour stuff, but people who exclusively watch long series are rare, and even if you watch the same amount of hours, fewer entries probably means less variety, especially since some genres don't have many long shows.

>>137443800
In a community that mostly talks about a wide range of new stuff, yes. In a community that mostly talks about older or more specific stuff, like /m/, less so.

>>137443800
>1 cour seasonal trash
As opposed to 2-episode OVA trash? Because that's basically the 90s equivalent.

Did you really need to post it again?

>>137443606
The point is that someone who has seen 100 shows is probably not going to have completely worthless opinions and you can talk to them about anime.
Even if it was 100 bad shows the above would still be true to an extent, but in practice it's a mix of good and bad.
I agree that 100 shows is not much for any self-respecting anime fan.

>>137444256
The list of tripfags MAL?

>>137444271
>The point is that someone who has seen 100 shows is probably not going to have completely worthless opinions and you can talk to them about anime.
They probably have a completely worthless opinion because it only takes about 400 hours to watch 100 shows.
10k hour rule

>>137443800
You're only saying 80/90s are better because you didn't experience them. There is plenty of garbage that has never seen the light of day because it's trash.

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1000 episodes before you're allowed to start lurking, 5000 episodes before you're allowed to start posting.

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>>137441064
>200
It used to be at least 300.

>>137444271
The problem is that those shows they watched are never "bad" shows they are almost always entry level and popular shows. Their opinion is shit simply because its the same as every other entry level faggot. They will call shows that are mediocre horrible simply because they haven't seen what a real shit show is or because its not the genre they like(ie its moe).

What's the name of your MAL-user accounts?

>>137444396
Newfag detected

That 10k rule is talking about skills. Anime is a hobby, not a skill.

If you have only seen 100 shows (or less) then your opinion about anime is completely uninformed and you should not be posting.

>>137444504
>judging by episodes
Some nip normalfag could just watch Sazae-san and start posting.

>>137444624
>That 10k rule is talking about skills. Anime is a hobby, not a skill.
Anything is a skill. The less experience one has the less their input is worth
stop trying so hard to fit in.

>>137444624
>anime is not a skill
1v1 me right now.

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>>137444504
I don't know man; I've been getting some fairly rave review on MY posts and I'm still not quite sure what anime even is. Isn't like a type of foil?

>>137441064

I don't need to watch more than 5 shows to shitpost though.

I've never really taken notice of it until recently, when I started looking for series by director and so on more often
Why are there so many comments of the pages of directors and other anime staff written as if said people can actually see them? Stuff like "you should make a new season of x" or "x was shit, you're a hack!" and so on. Am I missing something here?

>>137444624
>anime is not a skill
Fucking casuals I swear

>TV: 639, OVA: 364, Movies: 157, Spcl.: 221, Eps: 16123, DL Eps: 0, Days: 249.57, Mean Score: 5.9, Score Dev.: -1.27

>>137444670
You tried.

Come up with a new meme and maybe next time people won't realize you're trying to defend your newfagness.

Lurk more

>>137444611
I think 100 is a number at which the issues you described start disappearing.

Since this is a shitpost thread anyway, I'll throw out a request and hope someone answers it.

Anyone remember the name of the anime that has Hiroyuki's waifu? Her name was Rebecca or Reby or Becca or something. From the 70s, if I recall correctly.

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>>137444838
>having a mean score above 5.0

>tfw I somehow started using hummingbird
>Idgaf about what I use as long as I can track my watched anime
>Realize later that it's pretty shitty, incredibly slow

I wish I could just transfer my watched history to some place else. At least it keeps a "Time spent watching" thing there.

>>137444396
That would be approximately 25000 episodes, just over 2000 series (taking the average series at 12 episodes). There are approximately 16k anime total between all OVAs, movies, televised anime, and shorts. So to complete the 10k rules you would require a sizeable percentage of the total offering that anime has ever produced.

However if I take the average episode count to include OVAs the average significantly drops to approximately 7 episodes per series, and this the 10k rule produces on average 3.5k total series viewed.

Honestly saying you need to watch anime in order to have opinions on it is silly, as many media ideals, story telling, art direction, sound direction, dialogue, etc. persist through the medium it is told in. Indeed beyond understanding the differing style of story telling inherent to japanese culture rather than westernized culture all watching anime does for one opinion is to give themselves a wider breadth of knowledge on media topics. Anime is a medium, not a genre. It's like saying watching a smattering of all movies makes you able to comment on them all in a reasonable manner. It most certainly does not guarantee that.

>>137444838
>he rates anime

>>137444922
>choosing to watch average shows

>>137444922
>>137444838
>giving anime a score at all

There is less than 20 anime worth watching

>>137444979
> saying you need to watch anime in order to have opinions on it is silly
Reread what you just wrote and recognize that you are denying that more experience generally makes your opinions more worth listening to.

I'm at 299 TV Series completed

What should be #300 out of: Bebop, Tutu, or Eva?

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>and your opinion is completely worthless
Oh no! My precious opinion on Japanese cartoons!

>>137445127
Evangelion obviously.

>>137445079
I dispute this, there are at least 100 worth watching.

>>137445148
spooky thumbnail.

>>137445122
That is not what I am implying. I am saying that someone who is a western film expert can make interesting analysis on anime despite not having watched any due to have media experience in other areas. Needing to watch anime alone to be able to comment on anime is a silly notion, total media experience, and specific genre experience is more important than medium experience.

>>137444936
MAL also has a time watched, but it's horribly inaccurate. I would not expect hummingbird to be more accurate though.

>>137444979
I guess you watched enough anime to estimate that with some accuracy? At least 1000 TV shows and 500 OVAs/movies, right?

>>137445127
Eva is shit, Tutu is kind of shit, Bebop is decently good.

>>137445127
watch eva so you can make a thread about it when you're finished

also have you seen the eva movies?

>>137445127
Eva is overrated as fuck. The other 2 are better.

>>137445280
Oops when I replied to
>>137444979
I meant to reply to
>>137445079

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>>137444868
not contributing to the thread

>>137444979
no but you see this isn't exclusive to anime, this also goes for books, series, movies etc, any scripted play on a specific genre counts towards your experience on anime in that specific genre as-well.

>>137445127
Bebop is genuinely one of the worst anime I've seen. So yeah. Just make it something else.

>>137445127
bullshit, nobody watches 100 anime without seeing bebop or eva

>>137445280
>I guess you watched enough anime to estimate that with some accuracy? At least 1000 TV shows and 500 OVAs/movies, right?

To determine the total number of anime and estimate the average episode count? Those statistics are available to someone who has never even seen a chinese girl cartoon.

To say that one does not need to have specifically experience with the japanese cartoons to be able to comment on japanese cartoons? Again, any idiot would be able to realize medium and culture context is more important than medium experience. While these can be garnered through anime exclusively it by no means needs to be.

As for how much I have watched? It doesn't matter what number I say because it's not as if I couldn't be lying, or you won't imply I am. Shouting credentials at each other that can be made up on the spot in an anonymous fashion means nothing.

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I wish I could watch more but I'm so lazy and get sidetracked by pointless shit so easy.

>>137445469
Yeah really sorry, replied to the wrong post.
>>137445376

>>137445379
>no but you see this isn't exclusive to anime, this also goes for books, series, movies etc, any scripted play on a specific genre counts towards your experience on anime in that specific genre as-well.

Very true, experience in a genre is just as important as experience in a medium. Of course this is only true for some aspects. Reading books does not make you capable of commenting on color direction and animation quality.

>>137445280
Yeah, its not really accurate either, and it doesnt count rewatches.

>>137445154
>>137445280
>>137445353
>>137445365
>>137445428
Lots of disagreement, I guess Tutu is a safe choice then.

>>137445465
I've been putting off a lot of classics. I haven't even seen FMA:B, GitS, or LoGH.

>>137445645
wtf do you watch if you don't watch stuff that is generally considered good?

>>137445645
>FMA
>GITS
>classics

just get out and never come back.

>>137445505
not that anyone is surprised

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>>137441064
Here's your reply faggot.
2/10, try harder next time.

>>137441064
Good job OP. You truly showed the populous of /a/ how much of a faggot you are. Stay away from us and get out.

Not this thread again.

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Check out these numbers.

>>137445923
You're powerlevel is as terrible as your voice.

>>137445726
I've seen most other popular shows, just that those are a few exceptions.

>>137445727
I don't get it.

>>137445856
Please watch more shows before posting on /a/, thank you.

I am now Anonymous.

>>137441064
It doesn't matter how many post 80s anime you've watched. You're still a fucking pleb.

>>137445923
Fuck off, crossboarding tripscum.

>>137445970
He doesn't think those shows are classics and is really mad that you were under the impression that they were.

I don't think FMA:B or FMA should be considered classics either. But I do think that FMA:B is very good regardless.
GITS I think is a classic.

desu I started posting on /a/ when I have watched 5 series or so

I watched about 30 titles and I'm still posting lel
Come at me faggots.

>>137444670
god, this is why otaku are cancer

>>137441064
Reminder that if your MAL looks like this you're a fucking retard who can't into scripts.

>>137447179
Your post doesn't make sense to anyone who doesn't know whatever you're implying about scripts. So it doesn't make sense to anyone.

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>>137447441
It should make sense to anyone who's been using MAL since October or earlier. They completely fucked up the way profiles look. Previously MAL had nice clean design with a lot of info but after update it became colorful vomit. Scripts made an effort to at least partially fix it so my profile looks like pic related.
Also, in that update, "Statistics" section, the only important one, was moved below "About Me" for some retarded reason. MAL is becoming more facebook everyday but is still better than alternatives unfortunately. Another thing they changed was removal of quick edit button. It seems like every change MAL goes through is supposed to artificially increase amount of clicks and time wasted on the site while decreasing amount of useful info. I hate this trend.

>>137447697
>using MAL
lol

>>137447697
This old style was sort of retarded because of where the bars maxed out. The new design is good except for the fact that they include PTW as part of the global-bar.

>>137447697
This looks like absolute fucking shit, you tasteless retard. The new one looks much better except for what >>137448569 said.

>>137447697
Ok yeah. I prefer the older view too. And I thought that's what you might have meant with your post. But I wasn't sure and I'm not autistic enough to write my own script to fix it, nor was I aware of the existence of one that does that.

My biggest complaint about MAL changes (among many others) is that they are renaming shows with English names to the weeb romaji pronunciation.
The irony is that the weeb romaji pronunciation is not any closer to the "original" japanese title, and is in fact further because literally no one uses it. Unlike the English version that many people use, and protip: MAL is an English site. Like why not use fucking kanji if they want original, it would still be similarly incomprehensible to 99% of users but at least it's the original title right!
Clearly what users want to see in their list is "Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu", and not that pig disgusting gaijin name ugh.

Because of this retardation I've considered writing my own anime tracking utility but I just can't afford to lose the MAL database features.

>>137448047
Do people just say this to hate everything or is there a real reason?

>>137449144
There is a script for that which changes the names to their English versions. I've had it for years, works great. Works on Chrome/Firefox.

Go here: http://myanimelist.net/profile/zanetu

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>>137448569
It wasn't bad, really. Sure, being elitist about watching 1000 shows is nice and all but that applied to tiny minority of users. But yes, they could have added something to indicate user goes over maxed, either color or some characters on the bar, whatever.
Watching the bars rise was pretty fun and in general they were a good way to instantly decide if it's worth looking at someone's profile. Someone with (close-to-)maxed completed bar was already worth looking at more closely, even if he watched less than you. I used that as first step of elimination, later looking at stats more closely, favorites and finally scores.

Unless you means the fact Watching maxed out earlier than Completed - but that was in my opinion very good.

The global bar is bad because someone watching anime for a month can have the exact same bar as someone watching for ten years. The bar doesn't provide any useful information. And as you said, a lot of PtW makes it completely useless. If it wasn't become blue I would have deleted it but as it is I don't mind it much, even if it doesn't serve any purpose.

>>137449082
Pic related is a comparison of old look and new one, both without scripts.


>>137449144
This thread was a lifesaver:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1440057

>>137449652
Your profile criteria was basically looking at the completed bar, which is no different than looking at the completed number. You can still just see the number in the new design.

Some of the retarded maxes were for dropped, on-hold, and completed.

The global bar is nice because you can see what proportion of shows you drop, put on hold, or complete. It also shows something like a rate of growth based on the size of the watching portion.

Also, it's a lot easier than you think to find a MAL profile
http://myanimelist.net/profile/Progeusz

>>137450112
Not exactly, you notice the bar in split second, it's something happening almost subconsciously. The bars also allowed for easy comparison of watching/completed/dropped, applying weight to their rate of growth was good because people generally have more entries in completed.
Global bar is horizontal so you can't easily compare sections if differences between them aren't huge and especially watching to on-hold/dropped because huge completed part separates them.
Having multiple bars one below another made the comparison easier in my opinion.

Fuck. There are many options but I thought no one would bother. How?

>>137445249
Western film experts generally are not geared toward anime. They might be able to comment on directing and such, but I wouldn't take their advice about most anime over someone who's watched even two or three hundred anime, which is much less than a real film expert watches. They probably won't have tastes geared toward anime (most, for example, would probably deride fanservice for the sake of fanservice), and they would also not be proof against any of the same generalizations or misconceptions that newfag thirteen-year-olds make. You wouldn't go to /tv/ for a conversation on anime even if they weren't memelords. Someone who doesnt watch/hasn't watched a lot of anime does not belong on /a/, end of story.

>>137445379
>not contributing
>the guy who keeps bitching in different threads about how non-anime watchers should be accepted is also the same newfag who spouts his retarded opinions everywhere and then says people who call him out "aren't contributing"
Makes sense. Get a trip already so I can filter you.
http://desustorage.org/a/search/text/%22not%20contributing%22/

>>137450551
The good thing about the new bars is that

1. they don't cap
2. they shift relative to each other

The second part can be a con because you don't get an idea of absolute magnitude so you have to take a look at the numbers below. It may take a whole second instead of a split one to make an impression, but I still prefer the information the two mentioned things add.

To stay anonymous you need to do three things:
1. Hide obviously identifying information (which you did by blacking it out)
2. Use screenshots that don't have your new profile stats (which you did)
3. Hide your Last Anime/Manga Updates (you didn't do this)

It's easy to find out who watched Rec on Oct 3-4 on some hour ending in ':25".
(Accounts for differences in time-zones)

1k+ or go home kids

>>137450872
Hmm, they don't seem that bad anymore. Maybe I reacted too negatively toward them because of how new layout looked in general.

Fuck, I didn't realize all members option sorts by last activity.
Thank you, that was very educational.

If you don't have a firm understanding of all the following names/things listed, then I simply can't take your opinion seriously: Toei doga, Ghibli, Kawamoto, Koji Yuri, Mitsuo Iso, Okiura, Tanabe, Ohira school, 12 Principles of Animation, naturalism, impressionism, expressionism, French New Wave, Fleischer, Genga, Douga, Enshutsu, Satsudashi, pegbar, pay calculation in anime production, medium specificity, modernism, Brecht, Kabuki, Japanese theatricality, Classicism, Film theory.

>>137441064
>200
Wasn't the limit 300?

>>137454934
Should be 1000.

>>137441064
>TV series
What about manga?

>>137455687

>tfw 250 completed anime series
>tfw __1__ completed manga series

Reading is gay. Also most of the shit I read is still ongoing.

>>137454934
300 completed, 200 TV. It fits.

If you've seen less than 700 series and your mean score isn't below 4 you don't now SHIT about japanimation.

>>137451833
You forgot: pretentious douche spouting well-known anime veterans and mixing it with different literary, theater and film/animation terminology and concepts to sound smart. Or would you care to elaborate how dialectical theatre influenced iyashikei?

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>>137443800
The person who has seen both the gamut of 80s/90s as well as hundreds of "meh"/trash shows has a better breadth of experience than both of them.

A guy who only drinks the top dozen finest wines in the world and literally refuses all others for example ... is he really a wine connoisseur at that point? Does he even really like wine, or does he only want to sound like an uppity prick around anyone who isn't stocking the few he will tolerate drinking in order to puff up his ego? Not to mention such, a sommelier type who gets to such a status has presumably already tried hundreds of wines in the process of refining his tastes and opinions to get to such a state. If you're not a real wine expert and just adopt that super expert's snooty nature and tastes, no, you don't get it, that's not how this shit works.

As you progress you will find you have things you disagree about heartily with experienced people... they didn't praise something that you just fucking know is amazing, they can't stop praising something you saw and didn't think was that great, and some things your opinions overlap. The expert's word is not set in stone; it's just another guy, and you don't have to agree with him.

So no, you can't just say "yeah there are like 20 good anime ever and everything else IS UNWATCHABLE SHIIIIT" because that just makes it clear you are actually too lazy to bother going through enough shows to develop a palette of tastes and pros/cons about different types and focuses in shows.

>>137450863
Do you have any proof?
Stop making baseless accusations if you can't prove them, it makes you look retarded.

>>137444504
ok

All of Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Dragon Ball, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Hamtaro, Doraemon, Fairy Tale, Inuyasha, and Astro Boy.

Truly superior taste, right?

Do people really count how much anime they have watched?

Doing that seems like a huge waste of time.

>>137441064
263 DAYS of anime watching if we assume 20 minute episodes.

>>137461184
I use MAL to remember what I've watched and find similar things, that's about it.

>>137444922
>mean score 8.9
I only watch the good stuff

>>137441064
>watch a short + specials + ova
>counts as like 10 series watched

Pretty shit stat. I never used anything to track other than notepad for years until about a year ago when I started using Taiga.

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>>137441064
uh

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>>137457946
Perfection

>>137461184
It's called autism and it's a plague here. On top of that, they think they're people and that their opinions matter.

>>137461054
No one is saying that watching 5000 episodes makes you an anime expert, but you have to start somewhere. Ideally the limit should be something like 10000, but that might be a bit too unreasonable for the average anime watcher these days.
And I'd rather listen to the opinion of someone who has only seen the shows you mentioned than the average faggot who posts in 3x3 threads and has only seen the same 30-40 anime that constantly get reposted there.

>>137449652
Gee, it sure used to look a lot more like facebook.

I've been devouring anime since 2003 but I would never actually tally it up and try to prove something to anyone. I just like having lots of 2D friends to wave at when their OP plays.

>>137461184
I just add them to my list and it counts for me.

>>137441410
>>137441506
>>137442035
Watching many shows doesn't give you good taste, but it does make you very informed.
Would you ask someone who only drinks natural ice what a good beer is, or would you ask the person who's sampled a bit of everything? There is a difference between watching something for the experience or enjoyment despite the flaws and just watching to increase the e peen.

As far as dropping shows goes, nothing is more pleb. A sign off ADHD as well.
Anime is a hobby, by not dropping anime you are enjoying it and going along for the ride regardless of quality because it is a hobby you enjoy, watching anime. Dropping shows doesn't give you taste, it makes you look like an ass. You don't go into a show expecting to dislike it, you should at least have an idea of what it is. You shouldn't let false hopes or hype influence your anime watching experience either, because that kind of mindset will ruin a show for you.

Dropping anime is a sign that you starting to dislike anime and should find a new hobby.

>>137462570
Every season I watch at least one episode of every single show that has the tiniest chance to be something I would like.

I end up dropping half of them. No I'm not going to watch them, and it would be stupid to do so. I mean I would watch them if I had infinite time but I'm still watching 6+ shows per season not counting backlog.
You should revise your argument.

>>137462761
You're going into shows blind though.
That's on no one but you.

I don't particularly care for all female cast-moe shows, I'm not about to go in blind with a season of shows with the chances that one show might happen to be moe, that would be stupid.

>>137445505
Same here, I get sidetracked by 4chan and life

>>137463138
>Could finish 2 series off my backlog today
>Paused in the middle of episode 1 and shitposting on 4chan

desu I like having choices senpai.