Does /a/ really believe Kurapika can beat this guy?

>>137176634
Chain jail is OP with the only works on spiders condition

>>137176809
This.
If Kurapika can land chain jail on him, then it's game over.
Although, Feitan is really fast, so that's a pretty big if

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>Feitan vs Kurapika
>2 Chapters of squiggly doodle nonsense and narrator text box dumps where not much happens
>Kurapika says "now when I fight the Ryodan, I become FIVE HUNDRED PERCENT more powerful. But only in this 1 fight"
>Kurapika goes Super Siayan and kills feitan
>/a/ praises the intelligent and complex battle as it waits 2 years for the next chapter

Literally how it will go

>>137177404
Yeah I really disliked the whole idea of Kurapika getting to be a specialist sometimes AND having increased power against Ryodan.
But because of his hatsu, he's basically only stupid strong against those specific characters, and he's probably about average against everyone else (I'm assuming).

>>137177404
Agreed.

>>137176634
Yes. If he gets intel on Feitan's ability he wins.
Rising Sun's power is based on damage taken, that can be exploites to Kurapika's advantage.

>>137176634

He was having a hard time against a fucking chimera ant. How is he going to defeat someone with an ability specifically designed to defeat the Ryodan?

>>137177934
>hard time
He was warming up, after a few minutes Zazan could barely follow his movements, let alone keep up with them.

>>137177997
Zazan is shit-tier, though.

>>137176634

Didn't Hisoka tell Kurapica four Ryodans' abilities?

If one of them was Feitan's, then I can see Kurapika jew his way to a win after planning.

If he has to go into this fight blind then Feitan would just decap him.

>>137176809
>>137177800
>>137177934
You are all literally retarded. Don't forget that Feitan knows about both Chain Jail and Judgement Chain (which Kurapika probably can't even use an a target not in zetsu, but I digress). Getting Feitan in Chain Jail in a straight up fight is going to be hell for Pika. Fetain will know to use Gyo already going into the fight rendering Pika's In useless. Pika couldn't even chain up Uvo without using In, so the odds of him chaining up Feitan are very low given that he's probably the most fast an agile Troupe member we've seen save for perhaps Chrollo himself. Feitan doesn't even need to use Rising Sun to beat Pika with the info he has on him.

>>137176634

Kurapika would murder him. He was clearly powerful in the York Shin arc, stronger than current Gon and Killua overall. A Big Bang Impact shits all over Gon's puny rock shit and it only broke his arm a little. Imagine how strong he's gotten since then.

>>137178250
>Feitan doesn't even need to use Rising Sun to beat Pika with the info he has on him
Without Rising Sun he is weaker than Uvo, Kurapika owns.

>>137178255
> A Big Bang Impact shits all over Gon's puny rock shit and it only broke his arm a little

Read the manga dumbass. The reason it only broke his arm was because Kurapika was gearing to dodge it before it hit and he limited the damage. Uvo said that had he tried blocking it straight on, his spine would have broken.

>>137177800
I think all his hatsus have something to do with him taking damage. He did mention that if the bitch had damaged him more, she would have died quicker. Rather ambiguous if he was referring to Rising Sun's power or the rest he has.

>>137176634
This chinese achondroplasiac doesn't seem all that strong. He's fast, and that's all that he has going for him. I think Kurapika can work around that.

>>137177604
>sometimes
More like, at will. Kurapika can self-induce his Crimson Eyes state.

And I think his strength lies in being smart more than anything. Kurapika isn't like Gon or Killua, in that he can just come out and face his opponent. He's gotta think ahead. Plus, he's headed to the DC, which supposedly has threats above anything that was faced in the CA arc. And we still have yet to discover what his index finger chain does.

>>137178306
And Kurapika couldn't even beat Uvo without chaining him up. Pika simply doesn't have what it takes to handle Feitan or any of the stronger members of the Troupe without the use of Chain Jail.

>>137177604
>and he's probably about average against everyone else (I'm assuming).
Bullshit. EmeperorTime gives him insane power up and there is only two chains he can use only on the Troupe.

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Do you think a Troupe member will be kicked/leave the Troupe, and Kurapika will try to kill them, resulting in Pika's death?
Or will he lose in a fight to one of the Troupe?

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What's the point of talking about a matchup where one party has an ability designed specifically to fight the other?

Let's discuss Feitan vs. Hisoka instead. Can the Edge McEdge beat the Gay Clown?

>>137178366
Feitan is barely above ant squad leader tier. Even Killua is above that.

>>137178396
> Bullshit. Emeperor Time gives him insane power up

I want animefags to leave. Emperor Time is nowhere near as hax as you illiterates think it is.

>>137178424
> Implying all the ant squad leaders have the same power
> Implying Feitan wasn't going to wreck Zazan's shit which forced her to transform into a form well above any non Royal Guard ant.

>>137178479
>Implying all the ant squad leaders have the same power
Zazan isn't even the strongest squad leader.

>transform into a form well above any non Royal Guard ant
Nice headcanon.

>>137178432
>Animefag
Idiot. I have been reading this longer than you.Compared to other Nen users, Emperor Time gives him a 100% boost in everything. And he can heal.

>>137178538
> Zazan isn't even the strongest squad leader
Literally only one squad leader was stated to be definitively physically stronger, and Zazan is still the fastest one save for Cheetu. She's the most balanced and effective fighter out of all of the squad leaders if you look at feats, and this is not even including her transformation.
> Nice headcanon
Not headcanon if the feats speak for themselves anon. Give me one squad leader with better physical feats than transformed Zazan.

>>137178255
>stronger than current Gon and Killua overrall
I like would like to think so too, but this is conjecture. I don't doubt he has gotten stronger, but being stronger than Killua right now is kind of a stretch. If I'd have to guess, I'd say Killua is currently the strongest of the main 4, with Kurapika next, followed by Leorio and Gon, respectively.
>A Big Bang Impact shits all over Gon's puny rock shit
Uvo didn't hit him as hard as he could, he was holding back because he wanted to have fun. Plus, Gon's jajanken was very strong by the time they invaded the palace.

>>137178638
>Fanfiction.net
Zazan is fodder.

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>>137178615
> Compared to other Nen users, Emperor Time gives him a 100% boost in everything.
If you've been reading longer than me then haven't been reading well.

>>137178697
Nice buzzwords anon. Still not seeing any actual refutation though.

>>137178813
Burden of proof is on you, moron

>>137176809
>>137177404
I just fucking hate the concept that "it becomes more powerful because you can only use it on X". Okay, then every organization should have suicide nen users who just nuke everything because of their "conditions"

>>137178898
>every organization should have suicide nen users who just nuke everything because of their "conditions"
Training suicide users for several years just to beat specific rivals is a waste of time and effort.

>>137178757
How does it contradict what I say? He's the only one with these kind of boosts, get it? Against other Nen users he has undeniable advantages. Especially considering that he has chains he can use against anyone like Judgment Chain, retard.

>>137178863
Here's the fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NksByFsmxfU

There is no squad leader that can move as fast as Zazan aside from Cheetu, and Cheetu's physical feats are still garbage compared to Zazan's considering that Knuckle said his punches weren't shit. Literally the only other squad leader of merit was Leol and he never did shit without the ability that he stole from someone else. Once again, name ONE squad leader that was shown to be a better physical fighter than Zazan. You fucking can't.

>>137178898
>>137178980
Also, isn't emotion/memory needed to create a powerful condition like Pika's?

>>137178898
But at least half of developing Nen is mental.

Someone with the mentality to so readily blow himself up for any organization willing to hire won't develop a strong Nen ability.

>>137178898
>Okay, then every organization should have suicide nen users who just nuke everything because of their "conditions"
Oh look, it's the same turd who shit up the other threads.

>>137178984
You're overstating the significance of these boosts, probably because you don't even understand them. At most Emperor Time gives Kurapika enough of a boost to be on par with people naturally in other categories, but it doesn't do that shit automatically. Kurapika doesn't just activate Emperor Time and become a master enhancer or some shit. Kurapika still has to train just like everyone else and if he hasn't trained in anything then Emperor Time won't change much.

>>137179003
>physical fighter
Not that guy, but why are you so obsessed with physical fighters?
Kurapika can beat those easily as long as they are spiders. He beat Uvogin, for fuck's sake.

>>137176809
>>137178250
If Kurapika uses the chains on him, now that Feitan knows about it, can't he just say "hey, by the way, I'm not part of the Spider anymore" and watch as Kurapika is killed by his shit to the heart?

>>137178898
Good luck finding someone who would put in all the time and effort of learning nen just to kill himself off.

>>137179096
>I'm not part of the Spider anymore
That's not how it works.

>>137179089
He beat Uvogin because of his In hidden chains. Uvo was perfectly fine dodging the chains he could see and Kurapika only had an advantage after he chained Uvogin up. Feitan knows about Chain Jail. He'll go into the fight with Gyo and never give Pika the opportunity to hide his chains. Feitan is more agile than Uvo, so if Uvo could dodge the chains he could see then Feitan sure as hell can.

>>137179122

Then how does it work? If Feitan legit wanted to quit so he can win a fight, and you know damn well Feitan hates losing, he would be 100% serious about quitting right there and then.

>>137179122
Just do something special. Instantly remove his tattoo or something.

>>137179096
No, because it's dependent on Kurapika's own mind. Even if Fetain says he's not a part of the Spider, as long as Kurapika doesn't genuinely believe it, it won't mean shit.

>>137179122
That's how it works.
That's why it was really fucking dangerous for Kurapika for any of the Troupe to know HOW his chains work.

>>137179081
>Kurapika doesn't just activate Emperor Time and become a master enhancer
Where did I say that he does? This is simple, Kurapika is a Conjurer and Specialist, he can use Conjuration at 100%, with Emperor Time boosting his Enhancement his defensive capabilities are statistically much higher compared to any other Nen user who is not an Enhancer. Get it?

>>137179212
>as long as Kurapika doesn't genuinely believe it

Then he could defeat pretty much anyone in the world
>YOU FUCKING CHIMERA ANT! GON TOLD ME YOU'RE IN THE PHANTOM TROUPE! DIE!

>>137179096
Feitan was involved in murdering his clan. He was a spider then, and he's still a spider now. He can never take that back, nor can he just say "hey i'm not a ryodan member anymore" so he's instantly exempt from Kurapika's chains. That's fucking retarded.

>>137179256

What if the King joined the Troupe and Kurapica tried Jewdgement Chain and Jew Jail on him?


Would it work?

>>137179156
>He'll go into the fight with Gyo
That's suicide. If he focuses his aura on his eyes he leaves the rest of his body vulnerable. Go back to nen 101.

Bravo, Togashi. This is what happens when you try to "logically justify" super powers that come from the mind.

>>137179212
>as long as Kurapika doesn't genuinely believe it, it won't mean shit
You are retarded. It won't work, Feitan right now is the leader of the band. He can't not be part of them unless he decides to leave. If he says he's not part just for fun, regardless of Kurapika's mind it won't do anything.

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>>137176634
At first glance, I thought this was going to be a Malcolm in the Middle/old anime thread

>>137179311
You really think focusing some nen on his eyes will render him helpless on the rest of his body. Gyo doesn't take up that much nen and it's possible to delegate just a little nen to one area while still keeping the majority of nen elsewhere. It's called Ryu, m'boy. Go back to nen 201.

>>137178898
If you put too many conditions on an ability it becomes literally unusable. IE "I can only use it on a rainy night, once per year, if I haven't eaten yet and only if my opponent is missing a tooth"

On the other hand, putting half-assed conditions won't power up the ability at all. This is why Kurapika's condition (and Gon's) are so powerful, "if I do this I'll die". The mayority of Nen users should aim for conditions that are in the middle term, so that you can use them against pretty much everyone but still having restrictions. The Bomber is a good example, fucking powerful ability but you have to explain it before using it.

>>137179256
That MIGHT work if Kurapika was a literal retard. Unfortunately for him he's quite rational and therefore won't just buy that everyone he gets told is in the Troupe is actually in the Troupe even if he pretends to believe it. You can't fool yourself that easily.

>>137179473
You said Gyo, not Ryu. And does Feitan even know Ryu?

>>137179520
Ryu is Gyo. Ryu is real time usage of Gyo. It's like how a rectangle is a square. Also what do you mean does Feitan even know Ryu? Even fucking Genthru knew Ryu. It's pretty much necessary for any real nen combat.

>>137179518
>the bomber
>powerful

It's an ability tailor made for Greed Island that will have zero application in a real fight.

Put him in the Ryodan and he wont last a week.

>>137179576
Does he canonically know Ryu or not?

>>137179239
Then why even bring up Emperor Time in the first place? Feitan is a trasmuter and as such he's got much highest proficiency in enhancement of any non enhancement class; equal with emitters. Feitan does not have run of the mill enhancement skills, and ET Pika doesn't have feats that would make him an enhancement god in comparison either.

>>137179614
Yes. He knows Ko which is the final progression of Gyo training. You can't learn Ko without knowing Ryu, and you can't learn Ryu without learning Gyo. That's the way it works. Also considering that he knows Shu as well it's ridiculous to assume he wouldn't know something as basic as Ryu.

>>137179579
>touch opponent while saying bomber
>explain ability (typical shounen "let's talk mid-fight")
>countdown starts
>either escape or keep him at bay with Little Flower
It's similar to Knucle's, they both have to stall for time and Genthru's is a sure kill.

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So which spiders Kurapika can beat most likely in your opinion? Don't forget about the prophecy.

>>137179772
The prophecy doesn't mean shit anymore. It was stated and shown multiple times that if you read the prophecy before hand, you can prevent it from happening.

>>137179772
prolly the doc shimizu nobunaga and shalnark

wouldn't feitan's power be kind of useless if you avoid hurting him

like if you killed him in one shot, or simply contained him without doing a lot of damage?

>>137179819

I'd say nobunga would be his hardest fight since he probably has lightning speed reactions inside his zone

>>137179772

In a fair fight, he can probably beat all of them. It sucks to admit it, but Kurapica is pretty strong and gets even stronger fighting Spiders.

In a handicap where Kurapica doesnt know his opponent's ability but the opponent knows his ability, then I can see Phinx, Feitan, maybe Franklin and MAYBE MAYBE Machii pulling out wins. Rest of them dont have the raw power to fight him. Auto Mode is pointless since we dont know how strong it actually is.

>>137179839
Feitan is fast enough to tag most people in HxH anyway. He doesnt need Pain Packer

>>137179839
Pain Packer is not Feitain's only method of combat.

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>>137179864
>Nobunaga
>hardest fight

>>137179748
>You can't learn Ko without knowing Ryu
What? Ryu is more advanced than Ko

>it's ridiculous to assume he wouldn't know something as basic as Ryu
Ryu is not basic, it's advanced. Gyo is the basic one.

Was he ever shown using Ryu at all?
You are speculating a lot over this.

>>137179807
Yes, but death was predetermined to certain members in it and what means that they can't stand in a battle against Kurapika even then.

What really changes the situation is the fact that they know his abilities now.

>>137179950
>thinking all of those dead spiders were only by Kurapika

>>37179839
Not if he can just hurt himself. Pain Packer's power increases depending on the damage sustained, I don't think it's exclusively from damage inflicted by an opponent.

>>137179869
yeah but it's his ace in the hole

it's probably beyond someone like gon or kurapika but chrollo or hisoka or kurapika's dad and shit like that could maybe do it

>>137180053
>thinking Hisoka cares about someone besides Chrollo

>>137180062
>kurapika's dad

>>137179914
Ryu is basic if you want to be a capable nen fighter. Again, even the Bomber knew Ryu and he was woefully average in the broad scheme of things. Considering that Gon and Killua both learned Ryu on Greed Island and were still just barely mid tier during the beginning of the CA arc, it can't be that advanced. What's truly advanced is nen loudness/softening, but that's a completely different thing entirely.

>>137179306
Yes and no.
Chain Jail would work, it would put Meruem in a state of zetsu. But that's about it really. Meruem is physically strong enough to break Kurapika's enhanced chains, and resilient enough to withstand Judgment Chain.

>>137179772
>Easy Mode
Shizuku
Kalluto
Korotopi
>Normal Mode
Shalnark
Franklin
Bonolenov
Machi
>Hard
Nobunaga
>Very Hard
Phinx
Feitan

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>>137178105
Actually, he told only Uvo's and Shizuku's abilities, which isn't much.

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>>137180146
You wanna piece of me, you little bitch?

>>137180296
I'd bump Franklin up to Hard. He's physically stronger than Feitan and Nobunaga, and he's got deadly range with his nen bullets.

>>137179893

Fine not hardest but he'd be pretty damn since he's pure combat type and could probably sense chains entering his bubble

>>137180379

Unfortunately, we havent seen Nobunaga do shit that was impressive.

In fact, the only info we have on him is that he's ignorant as fuck and completely and directly overshadowed by Killua's grandaddy

Hardest fights for Kurapica would definitely be Phinx and Feitan. Maybe Machii too since she's pretty smart.

>>137180255
>Ryu is basic if you want to be a capable nen fighter
Again, it's an advanced level technique, not basic. Gon knew Ko before even knowing Ryu's existance, and Ko isn't exaxtly entry-level.

>even the Bomber knew Ryu and he was woefully average in the broad scheme of things
Genthru canonically rivals Kite and Morel, so no, he is absolutely not average. In fact, Morel can one shot squad leaders effortlessly while Feitan struggles with them so Genthru might be even better than Feitan.

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>>137180296
You forgot

>Impossible
Chrollo

>>137180471
> Genthru canonically rivals Kite and Morel
My sides
> In fact, Morel can one shot squad leaders effortlessly
Literally when? Morel beat both Cheetu and Leol with wit with no actual fisticuffs whatsoever. It wasn't even that hard in Cheetu's case because he's a complete dumbass.

>>137180540

4 4 4 4 3 4 23 Morel

4 4 4 4 3 4 23 Kite

3 4 4 4 4 4 23 Genthru

>>137180296
we haven't even seen his nen ability yet he just said anyone who walks into his circle would be cut

it could be literally instantaneous or he could be lying

>>137180633
> Using the chart that puts Zushi and Komugi in the same tier

>>137180697
The same chart that ranks killua and gon higher than knuckle and shoot

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Killua is cute!

>>137180697
>>137180728
>using your headcanon over official data
You're not arguing with me anymore, go get Togashi or Shueisha's number.

>>137180728
Only fuel to the fire considering that Gon has not gotten close to beating Knuckle even once in a serious match. He's got more raw power than Knuckle, but that's it.
The chart also puts Zepile in Zushi's tier as well, which is almost as ridiculous as putting Komugi in Zushi's tier.

>>137180773
Are you seriously trying to tell me that you think that Zushi is on the same tier as a BLIND girl? The feats simply don't add up anon. Either the data's wrong or the manga is wrong; take your pick.

>index finger chain instakills any spider that knows anything about judgement and chain jail

>>137180655
Yes, we haven't seen his ability yet. But you keep saying "his circle." And I know what you mean, but I am going to correct you.

When Gon and Killua where locked up, he said that if they came within the range of his sword, he'd cut them done. And when he looked for them he started using En, which is "his circle." Nobunaga merely sets up his En in such a way that it covers the area where he can attack with his sword quickly. Kurapika doesn't need to get up close to defeat him.

>>137180773
How is Knuckle being stronger than Gon a headcanon you fucking retard. Togashi just pulled that chart out of his ass

>>137180852
Did you even read the chart? Zushi's numbers make him stronger than Komugi in combat, but Komugi is way more talented in her specialty. That's why she's above him.
That's what happens when you read the rank but not the stats.

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>>137180296
Every discount Kortopi as non-combat type due to a lack of physical strength but what if we are wrong? This thing took part in Requiem, has a crazy-big aura and, most importantly, confronted Phinx and Feitan without a doubt when they tried to stop Paku.

May be Kortopi has some unknown trump cards.

>>137180948
Read the stats, Knuckle is stronger but Gon is more talented. The chart isn't wrong.

Better combat system than Nen? It's really simple but still very nuanced. Really one of the driving factor to why we're still talking about Hiatus x Hiatus.

>3 hxh threads

>>137180956
I am reading the ranks though. Zushi and Komugi both have 1's in skill, strength, and talent, despite the fact that Wing said that Zushi was a prodigy in his own right. The chart literally states that Zushi is as physically strong as Komugi despite the fact that he was one shotting guys 3x his size during Heaven's Arena The only stat that Zushi is higher in than Komugi is nen amount.

The comparison with Zepile is even worse though because Zushi beats him in literally nothing despite the fact that Zepile hasn't trained in nen a day in his life.

>>137180960
because he has back up and he believed in saving the boss

doesnt mean he was actually going to be good in a fight

also this is a stupidly one sided fight anyway. no way machii, paku and le clone man were going to handle phinx and feitan

Are you guys anonymous then prove it and help me take down the kkk #Operation wipe out

>>137181078
With only a stat range of 1-5, 1 in strength could easily encompass a wide variety of strength levels. Think of it, for example, as human-tier.
Zushi is peak-human strength and Komigi is below average human strength, but they both are within the limitations of a normal human's strength, so they both get tier 1 strength.
If we were to be more specific Komugi would probably be 0.X and Zushi 1, but the system only allows natural numbers.

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>>137180326
Does this mean that Kurapika didn't even know that Kuroro can steal abilities? This is really bad.

>>137181270
I remember right, he doesn't know any of Chrollo's abilities.

>>137178321
>More like, at will. Kurapika can self-induce his Crimson Eyes state.
dont matter, its basically a 1 trick phony, he was bed ridden for days after using the eyes for 1 night.
and his jail chain still works only on the ryodan, he can kill 1 at best and then the rest will kill him unless he pulls a kill and run...

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Can Franklin destroy Kurapika's chains right in the air with his bullets?

>>137181248
That would mean that the gaps between these numbers are ludicrously high given how big the difference between even a novice nen user and an average human being is. If what you're saying is true then why did Morel even bother fighting Cheetu and Leol. He should have just fucking one-shotted them and moved on. These numbers are so broad that it makes the chart hard to use for anything, since we can only guess as to which decimal place each person lies within their own tier.

>>137181430
Probably. iirc Franklin even put a restriction on his ability to make it even stronger which is why the tips of his fingers are cut off.

>>137178321
>This chinese achondroplasiac doesn't seem all that strong. He's fast, and that's all that he has going for him. I think Kurapika can work around that.
Ryodan member are selected too for their skills outside of combat
Pakunoda, Feitan and Shalnak were the information gathering team

Shalnak are a hunter/ hacker/ wise man etc
Pakunoda mind read nen
Feitan torture (and is implied he can get intel out of corpses)
and add Kalua to this

the front liners (guys only good for fight) were Uvoh, nobu, Phynx and maybe franklyn

Machi can patch em up.

Kurtopi and Shizuku are for steal, transportation of good, cleanse, etc

>>137181444
Maybe the scale is logarithmic. There could be a huge difference between 1 and 2 but not much between 4 and 5. Who knows?
We can only work around what Togashi gave us. Sadly, anything else, is ultimately our headcanon.

>>137178898
>of their "conditions"
you cant just make any bullshit thing, Nen is "alive" and sentient, its born from you, so it can only works on things that matter to you.

Gon berserkers was born out of his month long grudge to pito, using his reinforcement Nen and giving up everything else.

I think all of you might fall into the Reinforcement category

>>137179384
>Feitan right now is the leader of the band
are you high?

>>137179762
>It's similar to Knucle's, they both have to stall for time and Genthru's is a sure kill.
if you Knucles has more figthing skill then Gensuru.

if you put it in perspective GI player were all low tier shits, cause real strong nen users were busy with something else than a glorified video game

>>137181594

Did you read the Chimera Ant arc? Whoever beat Zazan became interim leader of the Troupe. Feitan beat Zazan, so...

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>>137181326
>mfw this disgusting fujo dream with Kurapika's chain being stolen by Chrollo can actually come true.

>>137179866
>In a fair fight, he can probably beat all of them. It sucks to admit it, but Kurapica is pretty strong and gets even stronger fighting Spiders.
uvoh only got under jail chain cause he was too distracted to Gyo to counter EN.

>>137181520
This vagueness is what makes the chart unreliable. Sure it shows data, but if we don't even have a proper scale or method of understanding said data, then it's practically worthless. It could mean whatever you want it to mean because what it says is almost entirely in the eyes of the beholder.
In story feats and power scaling hold more reliability than that chart for this very reason.

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>powerlevels
>still the best way to start a live hxh discussion.

>>137181474
>why the tips of his fingers are cut off.
he did not, extra info in between vols said he cut em 100% for fashion display, he can use his machine gun nen without having to do so.

>>137181582
ill be transmuter

>>137181676
not happening, they all have a grudge too deep on kurapika for what happened to uvo and Pakunoda, and Kuroro book rules demand that the user stays alive, if it dies. the page goes blank

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>>137179819
>doc
Who?

>>137180062
>kurapika's dad
Who?

>>137181345
>he was bed ridden for days after using the eyes for 1 night.
But that's wrong. Him getting sick was due to a combination of things:
Excessive use of emperor time, the pressure of not making any mistakes with his mission and nen restrictions, the stress of having his only friends kidnapped and potentially killed because he fucked up with the plan, trying to come up with a way to rescue them unharmed, etc.
This all happened within the course of like, 3 days too.

>>137181710
The fact that you don't understand the author's thought processes doesn't mean the ranking is wrong or unreliable.
Your own speculation will never outrank the author's word on his own series, that's the cold hard truth.
The chart might not be reliable enough for specific match ups, because it doesn't factor in the nature of each character's abilities, but for overall power levels it's the current canon go-to reference.

>>137181875
Nope, IM kinda sure, Emperor time alone puts a lot of stress on him.

>>137180296

Bruh, Kalluto is a Zoldyck AND the youngest member of the Phantom Troupe. He's guaranteed a lot stronger than what has been shown so far.

>>137181986
I wasn't denying it did, but you're still a moron for disregarding everything else that went down in that arc.

>>137182119
you are just guessing his emotions put him on bed. and yet you cal me a moron..

>>137182091
>He

>>137179772
They all die to a freak sinkhole swallowing up one of the hotels they are staying at.

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Theoretically Ripper Cyclotron is the strongest enhancer ability isn't it?

>>137181921
But what does overall power levels even mean if it's THIS unreliable. How can we ever tell that the difference between a 3 and a 4 is like the difference between a 3.9 and a 4.1 as opposed to a 3.1 and a 4.9? How can we ever tell. It's not good enough even for general power levels.

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>>137182211

reminder that Kalluto has a penis

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>>137181763
> In reality it allowed his nen balls to reach a higher level

>>137176634
>arguing power levels and who can beat who in fucking Hunter x Hunter
It's down to situation, which basically means it's down to how Togashi and the plot say it should go. Arguing about a "straight fight" is retarded.

>>137176634
I was gonna say it doesn't matter, we'll never know but after googling real quick I found out that the author is supposedly getting better and is working on the manga again.

Here's hoping I guess.

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What I never could understand is why Chrollo didn't try to kill Kurapika without use of Nen when he took off the chain jail? There were plenty of chances.

He is incredibly fast and experienced (remember his hit to Neon's neck that even a skilled assassin barely considered) so that shouldn't be too difficult. And both Leorio and Senritsu clearly couldn't be this much problem after all.

Wasn't that the entire point of Kalluto's monologue? Phantom Troupe members are like weird fucking third-world country geniuses and Kalluto isn't even sure if he can can catch up, plus even if he becomes as strong as Feitan during the Zazan fight. Feitan might have been training and went further than his power level against Zazan anyways

Kalluto was shocked even though Silva told the entire family that fighting a Phantom Troupe member would be one of the most difficult things they could ever do, (one of the only things the current head of the most powerful assassination family in HxH world has ever complained about having to kill)

>>137182651
>why Chrollo didn't try to kill Kurapika without use of Nen when he took off the chain jail?
Ten alone makes it virtually impossible to kill a nen user without nen

>>137182176
He went overkill with his abilities, he could still use them for more than one night though.
And I don't see why it's wrong to infer that contributed to his fever.

>>137182771
>tells his children to stay away from the troupe
>one of them becomes a member
Silva is so shit

>>137183026
tell em not to FIGHT em, nothing about JOINING em

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>>137181800
>the page goes blank
Where do they keep Owl?

>>137178422
I can't picture Hisoka losing.

>>137183200
maybe nowhere, he is free, but he is a normal person, like Neon. no more nen

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>>137182771
Why Kalluto joined them at all? Who decided that? He himself? Kikyo? Silva (as payment for the killing of previous №8?) Illumi? (as payment for the helping to Hisoka or for any other reason).

Wasn't it an absolute danchou's prerogative to choose new members? When he managed to approve Kalluto? Was it before hostages situation or after? Or Ryoudan accept new member themselves?

Could Kalluto have come to Yorkshin specially to join Ryodan from the beginning?

Kurapika's physical is weaker than Leorio.
Emperor time is cheat.

>>137183600
>Kurapika's physical is weaker than Leorio.
He's stronger actually.

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>>137183276
>after Feitan's torture techniques
>normal person

You can't be serious.

>>137183306

My theory is that Kalluto loves Killua but resents him for disrespecting the family and Killua in turn neglects Kalluto because he sees him as a pawn. So Kalluto has joined the Phantom Troupe because he thinks it will force Killua to acknowledge and respect him. Or maybe he thinks if he joins the troupe he can gain the power to defeat Killua and force him into the ideal family life he dreams of.

Or maybe Kalluto is just joined the troupe because he wants power? Maybe he has a more direct and nefarious motive that is yet to be revealed. I just have to assume that most of the Zoldyck's are there to advance Killua's storyline in some way. The relationship between Killua and all of his other siblings is pretty well established at this point, except for Kalluto, who's somewhat of an enigma.

This is why I think Killua and Kalluto are on a collision course with each other and chances are the Phantom Troupe has something to do with that.

>>137183677
ok he miss some nails and teeth .. and maybe 1 eye

Hisoka
Meruem
Chrollo
Kurapika
Feitan
Uvo
Phinks
Shal
Bono
Flanklin
Machi
Shizuku
Kalluto
Paku
Kortopi
Nobunaga

>>137183706
Yes, it is pretty obvious that Kalluto's personal motives are relevant to Killua somehow. What interests me is did he have a familly approvement or not and was he chosen by Chrollo or by other spiders.

>>137176634
Easy

>>137179772
he can beat all of them but Chrollo

>>137183988
>>137183260

nice meme hisokafags, hopefully you'll catch up with the manga to see him killed by Ging's punches

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When is danchou coming back?
>inb4 hisoka killed him

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>>137181674
Despite this he still didn't act as leader. May be this is even better. He is improper person for leading.

>>137183988
Are you really ranking Hisoka higher than Meruem

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>>137177404
>frogposters are literally this retarded
I bet you only watched the anime and missed the fact that emperor time doesn't actually make him much stronger, it just makes him stand a better chance against enhancers.

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>>137182211

>>137187257
He stands an even higher chance against transmuters.

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I guess we'll never find out, will we?

>>137187257
I see emperor time limits and that's why I can't understand how he managed so well against 100% masterful enchancer like Uvo. If he in emperor time mod showed fine level of enhancement vs, for example, emitter it would be understandably, but this?

>>137187486
What's hard to understand about it?

>>137187486
Uvo was fucking around and he already fucked himself over by the time he started getting serious. Kurapika couldn't tank his hits once he fought at 100% and it's even said he would have gotten his spine crushed.

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>>137187594
Thanks for explanation, anon.

>>137178757
He has to train in it for it to be 100%
When is it ever shown that Kurapika can't discipline himself to train?

>Training to 100% gives him 100%
It'd be pretty impractical to train shit for no reason but there's still severe drawbacks for training in categories far from your own in Nen, almost every Nen user has to train their abilities to be good anyways

It's not hax but he objectively has more legit effective tools than most characters in the series as most could only train in one category to 100%, he could train in all of them and get 100% out of whatever he learns

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>80% mastery in transmutation + ET
He's gonna shit stomp Feitan even harder than Uvo

>>137188061
How does he even still not developed a transmutation ability?

>>137187387
Illumi's old design is so good.

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>>137189665

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>>137189665
This episode is generally amazing.

>>137176634
Feitan is too fast for Kurapika to fight

Let's be real here. Is Togashi ever probably going to finish HxH? Jokes aside.

>>137192517
Nobody thought CA would ever finish but it did. Then he released an entire arc with no breaks. Things can happen.

>>137178615
Just for reference here, the ability gives him a 25% boost to the abilities closest to his natural, a 66% boost to the abilities beside those, and a 150% to the opposite one. This doesn't mean that his abilities become stronger than his natural, or even anyone else's natural for that matter, it just means that he doesn't have to worry about his other categories of attack being way weaker. This is along with the fact that he needs to learn an actual ability in one of those categories to make any use of his ability.

>>137176634
Why is Hunter x Hunter so freaking edgy?

>>137193163
It's not that edgy. Only Kurapika is really edgy.

>>137193221
>Only Kurapika is really edgy.
Love this meme.

every time i see a hxh thread i think about if togashi will ever come back

>>137183600
He's fucking stronger

>>137176634
Possibly?

I mean, he has a pretty good shot, actually. Feitan is a slow starter. The fact that he fucks around and builds up to "fucking apocalypse" mode would see him getting snared, at which point he would be screwed.

He's fast of course, although I suspect Kurapika has also gotten faster during his time away from the "party".

That's the only thing that would save him.


I think generally, Kurapika might get his ass beaten by some of the Spiders because they've thought about how Uvogin could have possibly lost, and aligned their strategies to counter what they know. Which is a fair amount because Lucifer escaped and having personally experienced the power, has probably supposed a lot about it that is correct.

Honestly if the guy doesn't get some kind of "rebate" or find some way to refocus with great difficulty he really cut himself off at the knees by specializing on them in particular, even if he does kill them all eventually.

I still think the fact that Franklin's nen bullets increasing in power by popping off his fingertips is one of the coolest concepts introduced.

>>137196897
this

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>>137196166
I wonder if other people who seek revenge against spiders exist. Kurapika can't be the only one.

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>>137182360
You can tell that this was done when SBR was ongoing due to the sameface