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>>136276101 cont
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>>136322093
Lets patiently wait for rello-sama.
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>>136322242
I agree
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>>136322093
>saving samples
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>>136322093

I want Helck and Alicia to have a nice, happy, peaceful life together at the end.
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>>136322604
Hahahahahahahaha.... no wait, you're serious?
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>tfw when a friend tries to recommend Helck to me.

Start of Chapter 57a
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>>136322903
Hahaha, amazing.
And here we go!
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>>136322941
it begins
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>>136322093
that's ACARIA
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>>136322903
Oh irony.
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>>136322941
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>>136322743

I want it. I really do.

I am prepared to never get it, however.
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>>136322604
I don't think we'll get that. She wasn't looking right near the end there.
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>>136322903
That's hilarious. Did you tell him you were the one in charge of the translations?
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>>136322903
Allo kamerad!
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>>136323096

No.

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>>136323175
>>136323175
>No.
Based.
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>>136323175
Damn, Alicia's on the top of her game and sounds like she maintains a leadership role
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>>136323079
Helck definitely has the highest "characters I want to hug" per capita ratio of anything I've ever read or watched
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>>136323296

End of Chapter 57a

That's all I got
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>>136323296

spy-chan is the cutest

what's your favorite helck grill, rello?
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>>136323343
THANK YOU RELLO
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>>136323296
Don't tell me they're breeding Eldritch Abominations. It was bad enough that they turned mankind into them, but now the fucks are raising them too?
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>>136323343
Thanks rello. Hope our neko-chan gets out safe.
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>>136323343
Many thanks.
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>>136323343
JUST KIDDING

Start of Chapter 57b
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>>136323403
The ride's never ending!
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>>136323435
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>>136323403
Goddamnit, I was about to go to sleep.
Jk, thank you based rello.
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>>136323403
fucking rello.
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>>136323468
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>>136323403
We love you Rello!
Make love to me, Rello, please!
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>>136323615
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>>136323403
Based.
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>>136323739
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Rello the god
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>>136323939
rip
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>>136323939

End of Chapter 57b.
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>>136323975
THAT CLIFF THOUGH
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>>136323939

;_; I'll miss you spy chan
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>>136323975

Start of Chapter 58.
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>>136323975
So Rafaed's daughter still wasn't awakened. I wonder if she's pretty much his reason for for participation in all these circumstances?
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best spy
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>>136323975
G O D ' S W O R K
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>>136323975
Hussy

You betrayed Cless!!
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>>136324051
We don't know how much she knows though. She could be sheltered and ignorant or a bitch like her dad and Mikaros.
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>>136324096
;_;
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>>136324096
I want to fuck cless's waifu in front of his still breathing corpse.
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>>136324133
Wait, what is her role in all this? I thought the awakening is forced onto everyone? What the heck?
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>>136324190
Most assume Rafaed somehow spared her the awakening and has kept her locked up safely away from everything for an unknown reason.
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>>136324190

Maybe Rafaed isn't a bad father after all
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>>136324222
>unknown reason
Maybe it's because she's his daughter?
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>>136324251
Maybe, and Rafaed did let Helck go without much of a drama about him as well as explain that killing the King would doom humanity, but something feels off. Like she may be needed for something.
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>>136324222
Or maybe she, like Rafaed and Miklos, had already been awakened (or something else that negates it) long ago.
Might explain why she was the first to notice Helck and Cless.
And she never leveled up because sheltered noble daughter.
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>>136324240
From the beginning Rafaed has shown himself to be the apologetic villain type.

He's either going to be a reluctant traitor and help save humanity, or a reluctant enemy and try to kill helck, but he's going to have to roll in some direction when the time comes.
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>>136323975

It's Rafaed's daughter, the same who saved Cless and became his girl! She's a kind person! She's our ace in the hole!
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>>136324364
>hot coffee

b-but that's forbidden...
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>>136324429
its the cure
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>>136324463
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>>136324398
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>136324463
I really want to impregnate isuta-chan.
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>>136324503

End of Chapter 58

Alright that's it for now.
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>>136324545
Night, Rello
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>>136324545
You rusing us rello?
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>>136324545


Sleeep tight pupper.
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>>136324545
>crumbs in her mouth
Its these little things that make me appreciate the manga more
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>>136324545
Goodnight Rello.
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>>136322903
Thank you, rello. Thank you.
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>>136324545
Based
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>>136324545
I swear to god if you're kidding again I will be happy
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>>136324545

It was really funny seeing stuff in advance!
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>>136324545
Thanks Rello.
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>>136324545

>Talking while eating
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>>136324545
AROUND RELLO NEVER MELLOW

You're hiding the last two under your tongue aren't you?
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>>136324545
Rello, do you know where to find the raws for the entire manga?
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>>136324545
Night man! Many thanks.
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Can someone put "Thank you rello" on the banner?
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>>136324545
Why there's so many best girls in this manga?
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>>136324706

http://urasunday.com/helck/index.html
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>>136323282
Agreed.

>>136323343
Poor Cless.
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>>136324545
God bless, have a nice night
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>>136324294
She's a real cute girl.
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How many chapters do you guys think Helck should go on before it's over?

I can see it ending at around 100 chapters easily if we're already in the latter end of the middle of the story. I can't see it going over 150 chapters and still retaining its enormously high quality.
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>>136324545

Thank you Rello!
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>>136324009
Are you a machine
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>>136324969
Where 60 chapters in and we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of what's going on. We will even know what's going on in the north at all.
I think the human arc won't last that long. And then the the North arc will probably be the important one after they free the humans
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>>136324969
I think you're estimating this too lowly.

If it ends at 100 there's no way we'll see things like the northern border or the demon king or anything else, it'll literally turn into a race to the end. Remember that the last fifty chapters of any manga with fighting as a focus are spent nearly entirely on panels with no dialogue showing attacks.

If we expect the mangaka to show us all there is to be shown and do so at a leisurely pace then it could end with 200 chapters and not feel the slightest bit forced. Maybe even more if we take a few trips and see a few character arcs unrelated to the main story.

But at the lowest it needs to be 200 accounting for unexplored story points and the last fifty chapters of boss fighting and wrapping things up.
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>>136325111
>. We will even know what's going on in the north at all

We dont
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>>136324969
I'm not sure, but people seem to think that it is going to end after the thing with the humans.
However, the race from the North still need to be seen.
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>>136324545
>Talking while eating

No manners at all.
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>>136325248
You don't understand, anon, she is so happy of finally talking with someone that she don't even think of how she look.
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>>136324503
Someone asked how humans can have photos in a medieval kingdom. I think we just got our answer: all their technology is out of place.

Humans have out of place artifacts because their country is built around them without knowing it.
>>136323050
>>136323550
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>>136324294
>Looks like a boy
>Is a girl
How can Anne from management even compete?
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>>136325370

Boko ore wa!
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>>136324743
You know they will all die except anne from management by the end.
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>>136325345
Don't forget about this too
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>>136325111

I wouldn't say we've barely scratched the surface of what's going on. We've already gotten hints as to the motivations of the King and his posse, and while there may be mysteries beyond their mysteries as to why they're acting in certain ways, I would say they're fairly entrenched in the puzzle that is the plot's narrative and going too far beyond them is asking for trouble, since besides the New World Organisms, there's not much more being foreshadowed to that degree. That said, however...

>>136325138
>>136325167

You all are right. I was focusing too much on the human arc of the equation without considering the mystery of what's going on in the North. Given that, I too agree that my estimation was too small and it probably will be around 200 chapters.
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>>136323175
>people now asking if their friends are secretly rello

Thanks as always rello
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>>136325491
Of course. And while all fantasy stories have an advanced ruined civilization, given all the Greek myth refs in this one complete with Greek orcs, all the underwater ones might tie into Atlantis.
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>>136325491
>mangahere
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>>136325579
not even batoto where rello uploads it after uploading it here
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>>136325495
I agree with the number 200, and I can tell a lot off people are going to start complaining once we catch up. Not that I mean that it's going to get bad but Helck as a manga moves pretty slowly.
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>>136325560
>Atlantis
Fucking brilliant.
Why didn't I think of this?
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>>136325111
I dont want north arc.
Im afraid that it will end like bleach - quality dropping
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>>136325579
>>136325605

Only for the tsukkomi features.
I think that's the only reason anyone even use that site. I still use Batoto
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>>136325579
>mango here
>mango there
>mango everywhere!
>there are mangos in a box
>there are mangos among your socks
>there are mangos on a drum
>there are even mangos in your bum!
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>>136325681
>Only for the tsukkomi features.

What's that? Lets you slap comments on the pages like danbooru or some shit?
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>>136325700
This anon lost it

Send them to the ROOM
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>>136325345
But realistically speaking what's way out of order for their technology at this current state?
People seriously think they can't have cameras? They were invented in the 1830s...
And we see that locomotive trains exist which was around the same time period, albeit earlier in the 1800s.

What makes photography stand out?
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>>136325707
Yes. Thanks to that,if you read some old manga/chapters, it still feels like Reading it in thread
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>>136325828
Kill yourself
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>>136325752
>People seriously think they can't have cameras? They were invented in the 1830s...

We've been aware of the mechanism behind photography for a very long time, with the earliest writings of the camera obscura dating around 470 to 390 BC. We just didn't harness it into anything automatic until the late 1820s. In a setting with magic, I would suspect that a camera obscura mechanism could be developed, though it'd be somewhat anachronistic.
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>>136325752
Because it's a far more modern style compact camera that takes things in a flash. Also the train doesn't belong to the humans... it belongs to the people who can identify a water heater and tell it's out of place.
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There are two conclusions why Sharuami has not awakened:
1. Her dad does not want it so he prevented it.
2. She is the king
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>>136325982
or because she's the wormslut of this series
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>>136325851
Cant untill i will See ending for helck
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>>136326031
Best girl? I doubt it, there's stiff competition.
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>>136326031
She does look like Sakura doesn't she.
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>>136325982
>2.

That's why she can give orders to the winged people.
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>>136325982

I think I like the King better as his own character we don't know shit about yet, although... It would leave room for Mikaros to step in as the "real" main antagonist, given he's been singled out as an especially big bastard throughout his appearances.
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The one in charge of everything evil and the main antagonis to all this is actually Annie from management
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>>136325982
You take that back, Rafaed would never experiment on trusting children like a Catholic scoutmaster. He locked her away off from all civilization forever to do her a favor, not because it's the best way to protect a trump card.
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>>136326153
I get the impression that the human king is a kind of totem that's been possessed by an Aku figure or something. It's hard to justify him being human nobility and having incomparably great magical strength at the same time.
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>>136324503
Nah I take it to mean they came up with the tech and retrofitted it to the castle

Still seeing a lot of Dark Souls in this manga down to the "giants from the north"
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I've been wondering what is the New World? Is it like a different planet that connected to this one or like the distinct difference between the human world and the demon world even though they're on the same planet.
Like maybe the new world in one piece. Or maybe how America was called the new world in the past.
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>>136326440
Last I remember it seemed less of a 'place' and more what a mysterious set of organisms were attempting to turn the world into via the destruction of everything.
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>>136326270

This is a very interesting theory, because the fact that the human king's neck cascades into a bizarre cylinder and he has no visible arms has always stuck out like a sore thumb to me. An Aku/Shendu-esque entity possessing an inanimate figure would be very appropriate and would explain why Hero-Killer did absolutely nothing to him when it struck... Granted, chronologically speaking, his mask does get replaced, or at least repaired, so that's notable.

>It's hard to justify him being human nobility and having incomparably great magical strength at the same time.

As a bit of a gay /tg/ reference, my friends and I were actually joking about how he and Mikaros are basically D&D 3e full casters with all the broken bullshit that entails, while Helck is a Solar Exalted.

>"Oh, is your Will save more than +25? No? Literally kill yourselves, lesser beings."
>"Kill ourselves? As if we'd list- FFFFUUUU"
>"Looks like you took the wrong class levels, cunts."
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>>136326514
But Cless didn't use the Hero Killer.
He broke the sword in two using his own and then threw the same sword at the king.
Hero Killer was broken on the ground.
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>>136326685

Ah, it seems I was just confused, then. That changes things a bit.
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>>136325046
rello is a god.
A dark, cruel god.
PRASE RELLO
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>>136326327
Well, Sharuami is named after a FromSoftware main character.
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>>136324545
Is there something wrong with my eyes? Why does Sharuami look so adorable in this scene?
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And here I thought this game would be forever forgotten.
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>>136326589
That wasn't Hero Killer but Cless's own sword. The king is technically a different accessory class to heroes anyway.
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>>136324874
How could anyone mistake this for a boy
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> 2. She's the king
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>>136327179
Helck remembers a lot of things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jM2NEve7sQ
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Does anyone have a list of all the RPG references that Helck makes? Because it's, like... a lot. From the King reviving Heroes like in Dragon Quest to the names (and even plots) of certain characters. Maybe we should start drafting up a list?
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>>136327568
Helck's backstory is pretty much a not-as-despairing-or-malicious take on Orstead's backstory from >>136327553
And in that game, Orstead is so wrought with despair from losing everything and being betrayed that he becomes a demon king spanning across multiple time periods as he tries to destroy the entire world. Which you, the player, can fulfill as an alternate bad ending by killing all the player characters yourself.
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>rafaed is actually good
>he does all this shit for his daughter
>had to have mikaros do some shitty experiments about awakening an already awakened hero
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>>136327568
Same with the labors of Hercules. So far we've got Cerberus, the Hydra, the boar, the stables, the Hind... what else has he checked off?
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I wonder why rafaed lets everyone go without actively doing something, first helck and now spy-chan
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>decide to read helck because of the constant threads
hey this is pretty fun
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>>136324874
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have rafaed and the king ever shown up at the same time
mikaros was there when everyone was trying to rescue cless, but i can't remember rafaed showing up at the same time, he seemed to be absent and only showed up before at the demon stoning and after as the snow fell
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>>136327871
no
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>>136327828
Wow....that's actually kind of hot.
I guess it's true that tomboys really are the best
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>>136328300
Pretty sure that's a dude
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>>136327828
Edil a cutie
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>>136322903
I know that feeling. Did yours bow down to you when you told them what's up?
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>>136327291
Simple, she use "boku", wear male outfits, and she probably has a boyish way of talking.
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After two weeks of ignoring these threads, I finally decided to read this today. Took a few hours to catch up, but fuck am I glad I did. Helck had a hard life.

I wonder if an anime is foreseeable in the future, though honestly if there is best bet would be 2017. I doubt we'd be so lucky as to suddenly get this translated and love it right on the cusp of an anime announcement. But it seems possible, I hear its a pretty popular webmanga.
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>>136328322
And?
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>>136328322
I'm well aware of that. Not going to change that it's hot.
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>It's another "Human is the real monster" manga
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>>136328902
They're only the current antagonists, and part of a much larger problem that even the Demons are having problems with to the north.
Not all humans are evil, but they're going to have hell to pay before they even hope to get better.
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>>136328902
The real monster is the human king and we’re not even sure he’s human.
I for one don’t know any human that survives a sword through the forehead.
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Is there going to be some elder god/ancient technology madness going on in the background? There's the talk of seals releasing bad shit, the Atlantis-esque ruined civilization, the endless monsters and more.

I'm also really curious why the demon area is filled with poison yet self-contained and how compartmentalized each nation seems to be despite the levels of technology.
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>>136328902

Humans are cocks, but it's probably because they've been infiltrated by a Lich or some shit who is fucking culture to kingdom come.
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>>136328902
>It's another "Human is the real monster" manga
This is my fetish.
Especially if it's about saving cute non-human females from evil humans.
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>>136329412

Share with me your knowledge of such works, Anon. I would like to partake in this fetish.
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>>136323148
I am scared, what could the final phase be?
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>>136330066
The mothership gets called in after the native inhabitants of the earth have been mostly purged.
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>>136330066
Probably doing to all of demonkind what Rafaed seemingly did to the three being stoned by human mobs.
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>>136328902
to be fair that's mostly the evil ass wizards fault on account of he literally mutated them into the real monster
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Wow, I thought childhood friend would be evil too, I feel bad for her for having such a shit dad.
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>>136330066
Turning all the demons into mindbroken fuckslaves. That's what I would do if I were an evil wizard.
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Hey guys, don't you think that at the end Helck will be able to revive his brother since he's allied with the demons and they might have extract some of Helcks unlimited healing and inject it to his bro and he'll be able to come back?

It just came to me when I saw he's poor body again..
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>>136330066

"profit!"
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What the helck...
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>>136330386
>>136330154
So if it starts to snow in the demon world we know that they are doomed. Hopefully Azudora is smart and he will never let it happen, right?
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>>136330971
The demon cities are protected by the barriers unless humans would break em there would be no snow.
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>>136322093
i want to see her aheago face
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who is this faggot trip
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>>136322903
why is security terrible
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>>136331434
They probably think that no one can get even near the castle, with the patrols outside and all.
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So is Rafaed doing all this shit out of his own free will or is he under the kings spell too
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>>136326153
It's clearly her father who is the king.
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>>136324545
Thanks, Rello.
You're awesome!!!
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what the fuck is rafaeds goal considering he spared both helck and spy-chan
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>>136331904
Keeping his daughter safe.
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>Hero Rafaed
>Level 81
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>>136331934
He's traumatized about his wife. Side story will come in a few characters.
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>>136331972
chapters*
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>>136331581
Rafaed is the king.
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What if the reason rafaeds daughter isn't turned is actually because cless got her pregnant and the baby is already awoken Its possible because it has only been around 2 months since the happening occurred.
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>>136332724
Fuck off toriyama
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>>136332724
what if the reaosn she didnt awaken was because she was in a locked room and the snow couldnt touch her?
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>>136332989
Then what about the other humans. I doubt everyone in the damn country ran outside when it started snowing, they were mostly poor peasants and that shit would be cold.
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>>136332724
>>136332989
>>136333050
She didn't awaken because a) rafaed didnt want her to or b) mikaros needs her to blackmail rafaed into servitude
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>>136328902
>the villains used to human
BASED BUTCHER AMIRITE for starting this trend?
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>>136332461
But what if the king is everyone all along?
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>>136333389
He did say his will is the collective will of the Kingdom.
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>>136327669
>>136327553
>Orstead's backstory
>Princess Alicia
This won't end well.
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>>136332989
Rafaed said that the snow could not be stopped by any material, it even went through Helck. So no one, included those in their houses, should be able to scape.

There are two options:
She was in a room designed to stop the snow by Mikaros.
She is a awaken human of some sort, there are is the Hero and King awakening, maybe there could be more
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>>136333765
Haven't played it, what happens in Orstead?
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>>136333811
Orsted is one of several protagonists and is the main antagonist in Live-A-Live. You are better off reading his story here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_A_Live#King_of_Demons
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>>136333967
Fuck, Helck isn't going to be that dark, right? Right?
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>>136323403
You son of a bitch I almost believed you
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Rafaed is the king
His daughter is his only child, which makes her the future queen so she is awakened already
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>>136328902
dumb frogposter
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>>136334036
The author's definitely playing with the possibility, where Oersted also became fueled by a pitch black power of hatred that could mutate him into a boss monster and keep him alive after his body gave out. That summary's a bit off on Alicia, though. She was manipulated and turned against Oersted, which is technically closer to what's happening in Helck. Kind of like how Uranus sacrificed himself so he could escape while attacked by humans. And it comes down to Oersted trying to rescue Alicia alone and being too late. And how Hash was a big, beefy, older, stronger hero who came to resent humanity.

It's chock full of homages but the events and characters aren't playing out the same.
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>>136331581
But why. What could be worst than forcefully awakening every human into immortal brainwashed slaves.

>yfw it is the BEST option for reasons
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>>136324545
Based rello delivers.

Thanks chap.

Also, what happens if Sharuami sees what happened to Cless, to humanity and what kind of things they are doing, Helck being hurt by her father and the human race?
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>>136323776
I almost screamed at this part
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Read and caught up to the current chapter in two days after skimming a thread. BEST FUCKING TWO DAYS I'VE HAD IN A WHILE.

Oh, and praise Rello.
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>>136328750
>wonder if an anime is foreseeable in the future
I hope not, last time i loved a manga this much and it got an anime we got that abomination of an anime of Jitsu wa Watashi wa.
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>>136323739
I honestly don't understand what his character is for. Is he an enemy? Is he just neutral and going with the flow? I mean the other dude is clearly a bad guy but I don't understand this particular guy.
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>>136331456
Isn't it just that they're not that especially good? They just stand on look out. They're pretty much just dolls. They see something, they attack. Otherwise, their lack of ability to make their own judgements would mean they wouldn't check something suspicious out, like movement right outside of their line of vision.
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I want helck to hug vamiro.

How do you varimiowould react to ones of Helcks hugs.
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>>136334972
I can see an adaption going both ways. It just needs to capture both the comedy, atmosphere, and tragedy correctly without skimping out on the animation budget. Or it can fuck all of them up.
>>136334981
We'll probably know more about him in the next couple of chapters. His daughter is bound to spill some of his juicy secrets.
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>>136335017
I want to see more Harupii.
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>>136334981
He's that guy who's mysterious until you learn more.

He doesn't act like a villain so he could have an understandable motive or lack of choice. But he's used that seemingly not-evil appearance to manipulate children and betray friends. He's designed to go either way and catch you off guard. The mystery is there so you don't see it coming when it happens.
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Does anyone know why the past couple of chapters kept showing the prices of the stuff they are eating? Is there a purpose for that?
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>>136335140
It's not whether it's actually useful, it's just a matter of principle.
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>>136335140
It's cheap but good food, so its just used to show you even more how evil and bad the humans are
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>>136335399
That doesn't really make sense.

>>136335278
What the hell does that even mean?
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So what about Acaria? Some people say that could be a Helck prequel, why they say that?

I only know that is on hiatus since Dicember from 2014
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>>136335420
It mostly means your memory and sense of humor kind of blow.
>>136323148
>>136323468
>>136323828
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>>136335456
>I only know that is on hiatus since Dicember from 2014

I was hoping for another ride but it was dropped midway, too bad since the MC looks cute.
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>>136335616
It seems that the author wanted to work in just one work, when Helck started she was still making new Acaria chapters, maybe when Helck ends the series will have more chapters
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>>136335010
That, too.
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>>136335688
>she
Is it confirmed?


Finger crossed for more Acaria then.
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What are your thoughts on the series so far, anons?

What do you think the series does well at and anything you would have like changed or added?
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>>136336017
>anything you would have like changed
alicia and helck currently suffering instead of having beautiful demigod babies
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>>136336017
The action scenes could be a smidge less repetitive and have a more variety in attack patterns and expressions. They're not the highlight so I don't want them to go full shounen battle genre; just enough to be more interesting.

The artist is gaining levels, though, so that's a change happening as we speak.
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I wonder, who's the one that made that barrier to protect his card castle?

Barrierguy needs more time to set one up, and it doesn't look like browngirl. Kenros is the second one (Helck first) to finish it afterwards, and apparently the only one who realised your castle could be toppled by others, but I don't think he has any powers besides his speed and his friendliness.
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>>136336338
Just some random guy with a barrier power.
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>>136335688
>>136335845
What if Acaria is a manga about Alicia ancestor or descendant?
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>>136329412
This >>136329583
You can't just speak about it like that and not offer one or two examples.
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The heros were said to be similar to the monsters in the north right?
then maybe hero killer was actually created by the demons to fight the monsters and one of them somehow I ended up in human hands..

If my theory is correct then the Empire has a lot of those hero klling weapons.
Then the humans are totally screwed in a real fight.

But this is just a theory.
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>>136336700
>The heros were said to be similar to the monsters in the north right?
Top fucking kek hell no.
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>>136336271
>The artist is gaining levels
Looking at the first few chapters, they didn't convey motion as well as now. Most notably Kenros chasing Helck.

>more variety in attack patterns and expressions
On one hand I like how the fights are not too drawn out, on the other hand I want the action to be better.

>>136336700
>The heros were said to be similar to the monsters in the north right?

In strength only, otherwise not at all.
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>>136336799
Not even, humans are rank C or something, the north is rank S.
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>>136336862
They are said to be able to be hypothetically a bigger threat than the North.

As they are right now, Azudora puts them at C as you said.
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>>136336917
Yes, but only if they keep growing for a long period of time. Nothing new here.
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>rello before turbo
>4 chapters every day
>rello after turbo
>1 chapter every 3 days
What happened?
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>>136337129
I don't know, but I'm fine with it. We're almost caught up so chapters will become even less frequent anyway.
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>>136337129
Are you drunk?
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>>136337129
Laws of physics slows him down. Time dilation and shit, you know.
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Oh boy...He's serious.
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>>136337608
Ok, who can piss off such a kind and chill guy? Maybe they mocked the demon kings death or somethin like that.
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>>136337608
Hoping that he won't kill the awakened humans.

Instead he summons ridiculously powerful roots that completely immobilize them and pull deep underground so that they won't commit suicide or get killed, only to make sure that they'll experience a truly scary fate.
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>>136322903
Thank you, rello.
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>>136337835
>only to make sure that they'll experience a truly scary fate.
Why would he do that?
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>>136327717
What was the stables?
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>>136338170
Sometimes there comes a time where even crossing a line will cause the fun character to go into a state where he becomes truly terrifying.
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>>136323255
Fuck, I know too well where she's falling to
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>>136323739
So Rafaed has a weird presence? Not surprising, but I wonder what he is. I don't think he's human.
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>>136323468
inb4
>[Spy technique] Stealth
>Allows one to blend into the environment and erase one's own presence from the enemy's perception
>But for Asuta is just a matter of principle
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>>136338247
Seems like that's the kind of thing that would be reserved for Mikaeros and the professional killer/criminal. Maybe the young mage too, although probably not. Only Mikaeros and the criminal are actually "evil".
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>>136324545
Aww, bad feelings.

See you later, rello. Thanks again.
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>>136338489
>Not [Spy technique] Dash.
>Allows one to run to safety.
>But in a situation so hopeless as this.
>For Asuta it's only a matter of principle.
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>>136337835
Nah, Azudora is not a cruel person, he will kill as a last option, but torture doesn´t seem like something that he would do
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>>136334981
He's a true hero
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>>136325491

Pyu is gonna be a legendary phoenix or some shit. Just when shit gets real and he dies, he will come back and use Phoenix Dawns to save the day.
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I wonder what's up with Anne's mother.
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>>136338839
You mean Anne's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
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>>136338839
You mean Future Anne?
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>>136338925
What does that make them?
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>>136339009
Strangers.
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>>136325167
>I'm not sure, but people seem to think that it is going to end after the thing with the humans.
There's no way it'll end with humans. This whole awakening is a global scale crisis originated from an reemerging ancient clusterfuck.
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>>136324545
Thanks rello.
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>>136325300
>sleepdrool in public
She never thinks about such things.
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>>136326589
>Hero Killer
Why are there so many "theory" fags that don't even remember the story lately? Is that just because of the sheer increase in material needed to remember?
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>>136334036
>Helck isn't going to be that dark
It's like you haven't actually read Helck at all. Potential disturbing shits foreshadowed everywhere. ACTUAL disturbing shits happened everywhere.
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>>136324545
Think she knows her boyfriend is being kept in the basement as an incubator?
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I see a lot of threads about this lately.
Is this the next thing?
Should I read this now so I can call everyone a filthy secondary when we get the anime adaptation next year?
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>>136340037
it's already a bit late to get on the helck train since there has already been a noticeable decrease in thread quality
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>>136340037
>Is this the next thing?
No
>Should I read this now
Yes
>so I can call everyone a filthy secondary when we get the anime adaptation next year?
No
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>>136336680

Not my fault that guy didn't deliver when I asked, but what I was thinking of at the time was Maoyuu Maou Yuusha, which doesn't exactly fit the bill since humans are only one part of the sickness that infests the politics and economy of that world and it's not like they're doing wrong by choice. Another example I thought -might- fit, but was totally unsure about since I've never actually watched it, was GATE, although I've also heard a ton of bad shit about that series since it's basically Japanese conservative propaganda.

In a /v/ example, Undertale is a great game if you can get past the occasional example of Tumblr pandering (excluding Alphys, who is just an awful, gross character). None of the monsters in that game are really fuckable, though, and the humans are mostly out of the equation.

Otherwise, I was asking that Anon exactly so he could provide better examples than I had myself. I'm disappointed he didn't reply.
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>>136340488
In gate, (japan) humans are literal Gods and animals or (native) humans alike are uneducated peasants. It really doesn't apply.
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>>136324711
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>>136324711
>!
>!?
What did he mean by this, /a/?
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>>136339641

I just made a mistake, Anon. Chill out. It was a detail that didn't really affect the veracity of the view I was espousing as a whole anyway.

What happened was I read past what movements Cless made too quickly and didn't see exactly what happened the first time. I should have realized that the statement was erroneous, because Helck carries the sword's broken blade + hilt with him and the blade that stabbed the King still had its hilt. It's a shame, too, since I think that entire encounter is fucking awesome and it's one of my favorite scenes thus far.
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>>136337608
>Then I will definitely not forgive you
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>>136339807
What if all this awakening shit was an effort by the ancient races to stop an even more ancient evil?
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Where can I read the Omakes?
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>>136341093
Here, starting this week.
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>>136341055

Then the world might not be so fucked if the humans weren't so enamored with fucking the demons up rather than banding together to fight the ancient threat.
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>>136340963
I was being extra scornful because of shit like
>my friend and me
>FFFFUUUU
In other words, autism
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>>136341194

Yeah, that was pretty gay. But I just couldn't help myself. In other words, me too.
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If King is a class that gives support to the hero, could there be more human classes, I mean the manga takes a lot of thing from clasic rpgs.
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>>136341194
>>136341265
GET A ROOM FAGGOTS
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>>136341176
>if the humans weren't so enamored with fucking the demons up
It's implied everywhere the Empire is what is holding up the status quo. And not just in the obvious ways like containing the toxin and the monsters or being in the middle keeping the other forces of the continents from clashing and fucking everything up together.

And here we have Mikaros and Rafaed who want to fuck the status quo up and have been manipulating the people in the shadow for who know how long (Rafaed's family was already there when the kingdom formed).
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>>136341475
lrn2english
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>>136341475
>>>/brazil/
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>>136341475

We've had other characters, particularly Demons, have classes and levels. Asuta is a high level Spy, for instance. I recall earlier characters had their classes pointed out as well.
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CUTE

LOLI

ELVES
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>>136342277
Ah, it´s true, but I was thinking about a awakened classes for humans, like hero and king. Any human can be a king, but not every king can awaken as one and achieve magic powers that exceed those of the demons.

Things like a awakened human priest or a magician, but maybe the king has all the support qualities in a single being and resurrection is only one of them.
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>>136342409
They're demons, not elves. Look at Anne, she's cleary a demon.
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>>136342829
Frankly they should be translated as 'Fae' or 'Fair Folk'.
Too many translators stick with 'Majin = Demon' convention, when it can just as easily be 'Majin = Magic People'
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Why is this series being discussed all of a sudden?
It was relatively unknown a little while ago, now there's daily threads.
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>>136343309
Because we are getting daily translations.
It will calm down soon (I hope) as we reach the latest chapters tonight or tomorrow.
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>>136343309
Because there's regular chapter dumps. rello generally releases multiple chapters in a sitting too. The threads should die down once we finally catch up.
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>>136343252
Fuck off, commie translator.
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>>136343371
>>136343382
Is it really that interesting though?
I've never seen threads on /a/ for it until now.
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>>136343449
Because it's only getting translated now.

It literally started being translated about 20 days ago.
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>>136343449
We like it.
Personally I enjoy it's ability to mix the whimsical with serious moments.

>>136343440
>I know nothing about how languages or translation works. Please put me out of my misery.
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>>136343449
The story is well executed. Getting more world building and a conflicting goal with well fleshed out characters.
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>>136343440
Not the guy you're replying to, but there is nothing wrong with some liberties in translation. English is a pretty nuanced language, more than Japanese in some ways. What Commie does sometimes is fucking retarded, though.

Most scanlators are pretty fucking shit at English and consider proper sentence flow, vocabulary and the like to be an afterthought. Translatorfag dropped some good advice in a Monmusu thread a little while back.
>>135709808
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>>136338614
Yeah. That guy's a 1st class douchebag, so better a fate where he begs for death.

The pretty boy mage should get a hefty spanking instead.
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>>136342829
>>136343252

It is a bit of a conundrum, isn't it?

"Ma" (魔) implies both magic as a whole (as in mahou, majutsu) and also "demons" (majin, mazoku, kyouma, youma, but only akuma has a strict "devil" connotation). Magic and "demons" are, in certain fashions, just as intertwined in Japanese culture as they are in the west, but in the west, "demon" tends to have the connotation of fallen angels who are extremely hostile to humanity by default. In Japan, no such direct assumption exists, although the aesthetic of a winged, horned, spade-tailed person is often used.

Just look at Chrono Trigger: Magus is called Maou (Demon King, obviously) in Japanese. The race he leads against humanity are Mazoku ("Magic Race"), which were translated as "Mystics" by Woolsey and "Fiends" in the newer translation, with Magus becoming "Fiendlord" (although he's also still called Magus due to nostalgia). The Mazoku are clearly not demons, exactly - they're just innately magical, so the "Mystics" translation actually fit.

Der Erlkönig, the Alder King, a poem by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, was translated as "Maou" in Japanese even though it's not a song about a demon or devil, but very clearly about an elf/faerie in the traditional folkloric sense: the sort of pointy-eared fuck that kidnaps children for kicks and will break your neck if you spill salt in front of him and forget to throw some over your shoulder.

So yeah, depending on the kanji, majin could be "magic people" or "magic god," and often designates a race more akin to the Fair Folk as the west understands it rather than outright fallen angel demons.

Of course, if you ask King James VI of Scotland, fairies and demons are essentially the same shit, both are satans and are not to be trusted. Christfags gonna christ.
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I get it. HELCK is HULK but with a E an C.
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>>136344415

You figured it out!
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>>136344086
So, as with everything else in Japanese; it's all about context.
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>>136344415
Hence the moments where we got The Incredible Helck.
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>>136344556
I guess one could say that Helckamania is running wild on /a/?
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>>136344086
I don't have the raws, so I can't check what word is used originally, but I find how in Mahoutsukai no Yome they use the word 'Neighbor' for faeries. Avoids using the confusing terms and uses something that calls back to Totoro still giving an eastern context, but better categorizing the sort of creature being dealt with.
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>>136344795
Yeah, but they could avoid certain things...like that Saitama vs Helck thing. That was really stupid.

Also I love this page.
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>>136344879
That was guaranteed a shitposting thread.
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>>136344497

The same could be said of every language, but yes.

By the same token, fairies as a particular entity have their own term: yousei (妖精). Further, mazoku/majin is still used for beings of a more demonic persuasion, most notably in Shin Megami Tensei, where -everything- from Angels to mythological Gods to the demons of the Ars Goetia are called "akuma" regardless of their persuasion, mostly because getting involved with any of these beings, even the benevolent ones, generally leads to unpleasant outcomes. MegaTen still categorizes demons into different species and races, however, with the "maou" (usually translated as Tyrant) race getting thrown into the mazoku (usually translated as Demonic) species.

It's all very interesting stuff to study. Japanese is a fun language because of all the fucking easy to read nerd shit absolutely flooded with katakana (IE: loanwords you already know the meaning of) everywhere.
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>>136344879
Yeah, what >>136344941 said.
Before that thread was made someone was trying to start that shit in one of these threads.
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>>136344941
>>136345007
And I hope we won't get such threads anymore.

Seriously, a Character X vs Saitama Thread is stupid. Especially since One said that Saitama is as powerful as the situation demands (aka: he can go infinite force if he has to).

If one should do a Character X vs Helck thread, then only with someone that doesn't kill everything with one punch no matter how OPPLSNERF tier bullshit it is.
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>>136343583
>please change the meaning of words so throroughly you might as well call the whole thing a fanatic based on the original work because I have clinical autism!!!
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>>136323010
Bigger. And deeper.
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>>136344969
It's pretty neat to study how various works are translated into Japanese and vice versa.

Japanese loanwords are interesting, since so many of the common ones are false friends. That's something a lot of scanlators get wrong, too.

Just curious; do you know Japanese or are you just interested in it? If you do, would you be interested in scanlating something?
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>>136345113
fanfic*
autocorect, not even once.
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>>136345186
Didn't seem to help you when you needed it, either!
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>>136344795
I love these exaggerated reactions.

Reminder that we still didn't see how sturdy Piuy is.
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>>136344795
>>136344879
Fixed this page for you.
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>>136324364
She is a bokukko. Cute!
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>>136345283
But Bird's reaction becomes less funny that way.
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>>136345271
Why does it look like she is about to cum?
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>>136345271
She's perfect no matter what.

>>136345283
Now it's shit.
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>>136345147
>Japanese loanwords are interesting, since so many of the common ones are false friends. That's something a lot of scanlators get wrong, too.

Oh yes, that's definitely something you have to look out for. The one that jumps immediately to my mind is actually "bitch," funnily enough. Bitch in English has the connotation of just a really disagreeable and whiny person who gets on your ass about stupid shit, but in Japanese, it's more that you're a slut and is not really distinguishable in its usage from やりまん.

It's probably a bad thing that's the first example that came to mind and says more about the garbage I read than anything.

>Just curious; do you know Japanese or are you just interested in it?

I can read Japanese to a decent degree, though if I were to write it, I'd be very obviously JSL, the equivalent of some retarded BR in English. I am not particularly good and I don't practice kanji as often as I should. My girlfriend has surpassed me considerably these days. I can translate commendably if given a lot of time, though.

>If you do, would you be interested in scanlating something?

I'm currently helping to translate the tabletop game Nechronica with aforementioned girlfriend, which received its first update in two years just last month. If I ever got the considerable willpower and time necessarily to translate something more hugely significant, I'd use it to bring Kusarihime ~euthenasia~ to an English speaking audience. I have never thought of scanlating anything other than ero-doujinshi.
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Would you take Azudora or Helck as a husbando?
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>>136345499
Okay, just thought I'd ask. For what it's worth, the manga is Kami no Shizuku.

Good luck in your endeavors.
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So many best girls and best boys. It's been so long since I've felt something like this towards a manga or anime.
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>>136324503
>i can tell if something's off as soon it enters my mouth.
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>>136345983
Would be even better if it used 'queer' instead of 'off'.
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>>136345983

Oh god now I can't get the thought of Asuta guzzling my cum out of my mind.
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>>136345419
>It's gross but cute
the fuck did you say
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>>136346062
>hey anon, you're not looking good, are you sick?
>let me taste your cum, I can tell if something's off as soon it enters my mouth
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>>136346227
I want this doujin now.
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>>136323975
Does she not age?
Seems like 19 years did nothing to her, she should be approaching her 30's now.
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>>136345511
Helck makes you feel secure and Azudora will make you laugh a lot. It´s not possible to choose one, anon
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>>136346227
I'd like to say "don't sexualize the Helcks" but that just sounds weird and awkward.
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>>136346311
What the hell? Do you have braindamage?
She is younger than Helck and the same age as Cless.
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>>136346543
Was that ever mentioned? All I remember that the math adding up makes Helck either 26 or 27 and that Cless is 4 years younger than him.
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>>136346583
Wait for the next chapters.
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>>136323383
It's what's left of Cless ;_;
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>>136343252
Personally, I think the translation of 'demon' aids the series. Most people connection the world 'demon' with 'evil' while 'Fae' or 'Fair Folk' are much more neutral terms. A lot of the humor and misdirection of the first few sections relies on us not knowing who to root for: on one hand, Vamirio is a ruler trying to save her kingdom from being overrun by an overpowered stranger, and on the other she is a 'bad guy', since she is a 'demon', stopping the hero. Because we may assume that the demons are evil, the switch in sympathy we get from seeing how ravaged their kingdom is works quite well.

I'm not sure if this was an intentional thought by rello, but it was a good choice, imo.
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>>136344795
This is probably my favorite page in the manga. It's one of the first I've felt the need to save.
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>>136347972
I can agree with that.
Though as with everything in this world I blame Disney for the degradation of the image of fairies.
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>>136343589
but that's actually a good thing. it hit's all the right notes.
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>>136347972

As the person who went over why mazoku doesn't automatically mean "demon," I agree with this assessment overall. The connotation of the term being used in Japanese is still as such that "adversaries of the human race" wouldn't be a strange trait for them to be associated with - it depends on the setting.

>'Fae' or 'Fair Folk' are much more neutral terms.

The good folk will fuck you up something good and proper, though. In that sense, demon is actually more appropriate here than "Fair Folk." Demon in English also has a more general meaning beyond "fallen angel" - just a general term for malicious spirits works. Even then, the etymology of the word "demon" isn't that sinister to begin with.
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>>136343589
Also character design.

Helck has some fantastic character design because it understands that simplicity is key.
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>>136347972
>Personally, I think the translation of 'demon' aids the series.
No shit. When there is an actual fucking human with the title of Hero, and a plotline which involves a hero going to a castle to defeat a boss, translating mazoku to demon is mandatory.
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>>136349003
I won't disagree that the traditional meanings of 'Fae' and 'Fair Folk' have a harsher stories, many associate 'Fair Folk' with Tolkien elves than with images like Titania. I was mostly talking about popular associations to the word, rather than historical. That said, I think we essentially both agree on each others points.

>>136348357
It's amazing how much old stories have been whitewashed by that company. Can you imagine what the world would be like if the Grimm ending of Cinderella was popular, or if the Little Mermaid actually turned to seafoam at the end? I'm sure kids would probably be far less idealistic about life.
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>>136349255
This. My problem with most of fantasy settings is the over-the-top and ridiculous character designs.
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>>136349403
>I'm sure kids would probably be far less idealistic about life.

Seeing that fairytales were supposed to be allegorical life lessons, it would be kind of the point.
Again I blame Disney for shifting priority from preparing kids for adult life to sheltering them from it.
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>>136349328
But they said they had many races in their empire. Including things like elves.
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>>136350391
>Human is the wrong term. They said they had many races in their empire. Including things like niggers.
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>>136350429
You know it's rare to see a black fantasy inhabitant outside of a dark elf and the average tribal human
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>>136350535
OK kid.
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>>136350535
Also why does everything that has a half in it have to be human half something else.?
Why not stuff like half elf half vampire or 1/2 wolf 1/4 elf 1/4 Dragon
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>>136350649
>>Also why does everything that has a half in it have to be human half something else.?
Because humans will fuck anything.
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>>136350649
Genetics nigger do you know it?
Beside, how do you expect a dragon dick to lodge itself up an elven pussy?
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>>136350682
Dragons can do this too.
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>>136350870
Depends if the lore allows dragons to change shape or not.
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>>136350825
elves can be pretty stretchy.
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>>136350994
L-lewd
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>>136350962
Oh, yeah. That's an obstacle.
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>>136350870
Better accuracy
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>>136351221
The giant red square looks like a dick going into a butt.
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>>136351221
Thanks. It's much better.
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>>136351221
Even if I can't crossbreed I sure as hell can fuck anything
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>>136351221
So in other words, dragons and News can fuck anything and everything
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>>136351221
>Dryads can't breed with lizardfolk
>But can with dragons
What makes lizards dicks so shitty?
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>>136351221
Damn celestial are pretty fertile.
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>>136351701
But we aren't getting any Tenma out of them.
Tenma( half demon half angel)
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>>136351221
>Minotaur can breed with sprites.
I don't think so
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>>136351349
This. llizardfolk can't even breed with spirits
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>>136351701
Do you want Nephilim?
Because that is how you get Nephilim.
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>>136351784
Tenma( overrated shit )
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so the only chapters left are 59, 60 and 61?
I assume one of them is split in a and b again
after that five omake chapters?
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>>136347972
I think thats the joke.
It started with the whole maou vs yuusha thing so it is definitely right for us to assume that they are demonic race.

It is not until Witch-sama appearance that we start to think that maybe she is just a cute loli elf.
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>>136352422
Not everyone is clinically retarded like you m8.
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>>136352367
61 wont be out til febuary 2nd according to the site

http://urasunday.com/helck/

Though im pretty sure 60b was out before the 18
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>>136340488
Did you want more like Maoyuu? Because if you haven't seen Outbreak Company you're in for a treat.
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how will they kill the king? craft King Killer? give him a nuclear wedgie?
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>>136352612
King will probably be a Lich or something, King is barely a mid boss
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>>136352485
Yes, it was out before that, at least the korean scans.
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>>136322093

Who do you picture as Helck's VA?

My pick is Kenta Miyake.
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>>136352532
Outbreak company is 2/10 at best.
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>>136352679
king is probably not even a person, just a golem or an enchanted mask or something being controlled by the sorcerer. He survived a sword through the skull after all.
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>>136353196
That or his magic means that to kill him means the total destruction of the body and not just getting a sword through the face.
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Is our lord and master rello going to show up today?
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>>136334571
Didn't Alicia actually love Strayabow?
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>>136341475
>>136342277
Thing is the Hero and King are non-standard, exclusive classes most people can't get. And there are plenty of chances of them playing more with that possibility.

In DQ, there is one other class that has the same teleporting resurrection ability as the king, and that's the pastor in a church. Given the angel theme of the badguys, them being a plot-relevant class is not out of the question.
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>>136322093
>>136322540

PLEASE more art of her. I need more.
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>>136353559
I'm pretty sure we're going to need to start a new thread for that to happen.
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>>136324398
>>136324463

"My imouto is a bwaka. Send help."
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Is helck based on Dragon Quest?
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>>136353770
No. Dragon Quest is based on Helck.
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>>136343252
>>136344086
I forget, did the demons actually call themselves demons in this series? They say humans call them that but I can't remember if they had a word for themselves besides the imperials.
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>>136353718
so, shit post until we reach the bump limit?
I'd rather not, seeing as how this thread's been mostly good
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>>136353809
Have not recalled them ever calling themselves that actually. Some even stated their race.
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>>136352760
Here's my picks from a previous thread
Helck-Yoshimasa Hosoya
Vamirio-Yoko Hikasa
Azudora-Shinichiro Miki
Kenros- Nobuhiko Okamoto
Hyrua-Miyuki Sawashiro
Hon-Kappei Yamaguchi
Doruushi-Hiroki Yasumoto
Asuta-Marina Inoue
Isuta-Marina Inoue
Cless- Mamoru Miyano
Edil-Natsuki Hanae
Alicia- Chiwa Saito
Zell-Takehito Koyasu
Rafaed-Jouji Nakata
Mikaros-Daisuke Namikawa
Human king-Akio Ootsuka
Piuy- some kid (like the kid in Usagi Drop)
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>>136351701

So are fiends. Outsiders get to fuck everyone because they are the amalgamated ideals of everyone, really.
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>>136353809

They call themselves collectively the Empire, usually, and generally refer to themselves as their actual race (vampire, immortal, etc.). They at least acknowledge the usage of the term demon by humans. I think it's more a matter of not generalizing all of the people in the Empire, really.

However, while they do not generally refer to themselves as demons, they do refer to their leaders as things like "maou," which means "demon king." Technically, it could mean "magic king," but the term "maou" is almost exclusively used to distinguish someone who is "the king of the mazoku/majin," or, in cases like Sengoku Basara Nobunaga, someone who us just an enormous fucking asshole (although his title is actually a reference to the Buddhist figure of Mara, who is in the context of Buddhism an enormous fucking asshole).
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You know what would be really funny? If there were humans in the Empire too.
Like two or three human countries in the 15 countries Empire.
It would be even funnier if the Emperor was a human.
Or maybe the word I'm looking for is ironic.
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>>136353559
I doubt he'll post with 430 posts in this thread already.
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>>136354536
>It would be even funnier if the Emperor was a human

It's been heavily hinted that the emperor is a dragon.
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the empire is a collective of fifteen nations, are the most prominent races the ones ruling? Can we assume the other two kings are elves? And are all the nations located in the poison mist?
I assume some of the kingdoms are a collective of different races, because there's seemingly a lot of different types
and how does the management for these nations work? Is the demon king of each stronghold ruler of a country?
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>>136354732
Presumably, their central-most bodies run off a merit-based system if the Demon King contest and Vamirio/Azudora's direct subordinates are any indication, while others seem to have monarchies in place.
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Godamnit I wish I didn't have a company to run so I can spend all day refreshing this thread.
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>>136354947
Hopefully we'll get a detailed map some day
The first one showing the different threats was really vague
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>>136354645
A flying pig, you mean. With a gorgeous snout and powerful wings.
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>>136355550
not this again
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>>136355550

Aren't those the same thing?
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>>136355608
Dragons are disgusting, diseased flying lizard jews. Pigs are magestic, loyal, clean and delicious. Learn the difference, it could save your life.
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>>136322093
Should I keep reading this? I read like 16 chapters and it seems like a boring shonen to me.
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>>136355981
>implying implicitly implicit implications
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>>136357458
Keep reading it gets darker. The whole comedic thing is just a front
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>>136357458
Stop reading, it only gets worse.
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>thread reaches pages 10
>almost moves to the storage
>rello probably would've posted in the new thread
>fuck it, let's post anyway
good job
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>>136357665
thanks for the bump
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>>136357755
>what is sage
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This manga makes me wanna go on a train trip.

Trains are awesome.
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>>136343252
Translator that is inflexible with the connotation of demon
>P a t h e t i c
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>>136357458
It gets slayers level of dark.
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>>136358177
When does slayers gets dark ?
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>>136358199
First part of first season had a couple dark moments and that's it. Maybe LN?
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>>136358262

New thread just in case rello needs a fresh one.
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>>136358319

That's a pretty shitty OP, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.
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>>136358319
What the fuck is that image?
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>>136358319
40 posts early? Why do you people need to chain threads like this? If rello needs a new thread to dump new chapters in let him make it himself. They aren't stupid
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>>136358505
There's the chance of him uploading to bato.to and shit.
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>>136358319
what a horrible thread
let it die and make a better one with no faggotry, please
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>>136324874
why does she look sad?
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>>136358922
she's not sad she's embarrassed
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who do you think is gonna localize Helck?
Meanwhile, post cute helck girls
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>>136359301
Does it matter? It'll be cancer all the same.
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>>136359301
I swear to god I'm gonna buy every volume.
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>>136359322
you have to believe anon
you are probably right. but what are gonna do, learn moon so you can read chinese comics?
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>>136359414
No I'm gonna learn Chinese so I can read Corean comics.
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>>136323975
I think she might be the king. Just a hunch.
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>>136359523
So does half of /a/. I mean why else make the king wear a mask?
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>>136359322
Are they usually that bad?
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>>136359771
Depends on your values. Do you enjoy dubs?
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>>136359771
Depends what you compare them to?
the viz translation of the last hxh chapters are great compared to garbagestream shit translation, but how faithful they are to moon language? Who knows
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NO FUCK THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY
THESE ARE NOT THE EMOTIONS I WAS PROMISED
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>>136359899
I'm mostly indifferent to them.
>>136359989
I see. Thanks for that piece of info. As long as they are not horrible I can at least avoid getting triggered.
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>>136359989
They're very unfaithful. There's worse, but it's still very bad
>who knows
OH I DON'T KNOW MAYBE PEOPLE WHO READ THE MOON NO NO WAY THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE
Viz's largest problem is that they drop what they start to localize 1-2 volume in and nobody is hence allowed to pick up because they're the ones with the rights.
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>>136357954
>argue for flexibility of the term and thus an alternative translation fitting the circumstances
>inflexible

Sure.
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>>136360357
chill, I was talking from the perspective of someone who doesn't speak japanese
I don't know much about english publishers, but manga you find here is usually in german, italian or french, but I always go for english since I refuse to learn french, don't speak italian and german seems pretty bad, I could be wrong about that
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>>136359771

You bet they fucking are.

Nearly any time something cool like a manga or a visual novel gets an anime adaptation, barring examples where no one but fans of the original care, the discourse surrounding it almost immediately deteriorates into shit. I've seen it happen too many times for it to be coincidental. The threads become populated by shitposters and assorted cancerous idiots who reduce the collective IQ of the entire thread to abysmal levels.

This is doubly true for anything that gets localized and marketed as a regular product. This brings preteens and weeaboos into the community, and they provide little to nothing of value. There is a chance that they will one day grow the fuck up and contribute something of worth to the conversation, but too often they stay vapid weeaboos who take root on the garbage end of Tumblr and occasionally leave to shit up everywhere else.

The more exposure something gets, the more ignorant, obnoxious idiots get involved. All this on top of how discussion speeds up to an eclectic pace where no one has anything meaningful to say and you have a veritable maelstrom of ruinous bullshit. General threads are especially vulnerable to this because their ongoing nature leads to a sense of cabin fever during the extended dull periods between major updates and other happenings. The constant presence of certain interested people in theses threads gives rise to cancer such as tripfags (who don't realize the function doesn't exist for attention whoring, but to single out specific people delivering and reporting on actual content they're creating) and similar personalities.

I wish the "secret club" and other elitist mentalities didn't have to exist, because they give a lot of faggots a misplaced sense of superiority for the wrong reasons when they are just as awful and cancerous, but it's the only way to maintain a standard. Granted, that mentality isn't as meaningful anymore considering how well-known 4chan has become.
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Fucking swiss cheeses on my /a/
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That's only relative to discussion on 4chan though. You forgot to mention the cancer about the actual localization itself to balance out your post.