Tsundere, kuudere, dandere, yandere... and even s-dere. Can you come up with a new dere archetype, /a/?
This >>136294223 but it evolves into real life contact. In reality, the anondere is a completely different person than online but as time passes, he turns into his online self in reality.
Tsundere and yandere are legitimate (yandere actually used to be debatable). All the other ones are just western fangirl BS made up because "-dere" was becoming a meme on the Internet; they have no actual basis in either the historic sense and are not used by the Japanese.
Isn't that wrong though? Wouldn't it be that she covers up her love with hot-blooded antics and eventually expresses herself normally?
However for my critique of your concept, me and my dick are pleased by this concept and it needs to happen more often.
The * in *dere doesn't necessarily cover up the dere. Take yandere, where the yandeiru and dere usually just merges together perfectly and strengthen each other. It's just tsun and dere that naturally oppose each other.
>All the other ones are just western fangirl BS made up
Do you have a source on this? I'm legimately interested. For it to become an archetype, you must have enough characters that fall under the label to warrant it existing in the first place.
Augusto Pinochet? Then again he was more cold blooded in character
That's not the point though. Think about it, Stalin absolutely "motivated his friends with his relentless optimism", eg. through communism.
And Kim Jung-Il and Satan both "tends to win everybody's sympathy".
I think Hitler would be a good tsundere too though.
And USA is/was pretty yandere towards Israel.
Two anons fall in love with each other's facades, and nothing else. The moment the act is dropped and their real selves are shown, the love is dead.
In a sense, it happens all the time.
And where's my goddere already?
Kuudere is a valid archetype, it's just that westerners tend to misunderstand it to mean emotionless, when it just means being "cool" (in the cool-headed sense of the word) and affectionate. Dandere is also a word defined by the Japanese, but it's not used as much and is more of an after the fact definition, as in, no one sits down to make a dandere character, but when you define it you can recognize a lot of characters who fit the definition.
But yeah, beyond those, it's mostly just westerners who think you can put dere behind a word and make up a new archetype.
...So can I expect some Yuri action between tundradere Russia and yan/tsundere US?
One anon suggested to me the term kishidere when I tried to describe him the characters I like.
People like Selvaria who are strong, focused and capable but also very strictly devoted and loving to someone they serve.
Ayaka from wcw also fits I think, maybe Saeko from HotD too, but to a lesser extent.
True enough, but I think both countries come more along as Yanderes , they both possessive, and will never willingly give up on something.
So it's more like deadly staredown between two yans
If I know my geo-politics, Canada is the childhood friend to US and is currently the route US is trying to clear. Mexico is the cousin that's trying to seduce US but failing because she's a drug ridden slut. GB and France is the beta-couple that's tsundere to each other and each trying to use US to make each other jealous but ended up feeling something for US. Middle East is the yandere that constantly yells at the US and telling US to go away but when US actually does, Middle East suddenly breaks something and says this is US fault and that US can't leave until US fixes it. China is the thousand year old vampire loli who, while is immensely powerful, has no idea what to do, and while her pride is making her act on her own, she is secrelty obsessing over US and imitating what US is doing. Russia is the rival tsundere and is trying to get the US's attention again after she had spilled all of her spaghetti from going too tsun over US during the Cold War and then too much dere afterward.
Israel is the little sister whose decided to learn from older brother and somehow has a reverse harem tsundere/yandere in the middle east. US broke Japan's illusions during WW2 and took Japan in as a little sister but now Japan is trying to act like an adult to get US-onii-chan to stop treating her like a little sister and into something more.
Middle East is starting to feel lonely now that US is starting to get tired of their yandere actions and blames GB and France for taking US away, so Middle East is trying to eliminate the competition.
Nah , it was straight
Shame Hetalia had to be cute boys doing cute things and not cute girls doing cute things
the love interest well and truly loves you with all her heart but she can't keep it in her pants and fucks anything with a pulse
asking her to be monogamous isn't an option
I rather have the type of slutdere thats more like putting on an act about being confident in her sexual prowess and being able to seduce any guy but is actually a virgin and really likes the MC.
Hachiman does call her "the Master of Sly"
>but is actually a virgin
Shitty otaku purity fetish. If you're going to have a character act like a slut, then have them actually own it instead of secretly being a pure girl waiting for the MC's divine cock.
whatever -dere these women are
japan doesn't have a name for them so I just call them quintessential handsome women
I did not know about this. You learn something new every day.
Well, it has been two years since Nanashi last drew a Nagatoro image set. Most likely he will continue to draw Nagatoro whenever he feels like it. Griselle Cunttits and exhibitionist class rep also got some new art and it's been like forever since he last drew them.
Can't remember which dere it was but it was something someone posted in the OP of a sadpanda thread a year ago or something, girl was a bully first I think or something like that and it was called daredere or something fuck I can't remember
The guy was sick in bed in the story
If it ever unironically becomes more of a thing we should rally to nuke Japan 2 more times
A machine that is still learning cognitive abilities and emotions. Highly intelligent, and not completely aware of what is is feeling. Stupidly dangerous for extra flavor.
How about the densedere
No vixen can woe him, no female charms can seduce him, and even if he was drugged, tied, and beaten up by his desperate women, he will always find a way to escape their grasp
But deep inside, he really cares for them
>everyone should be a virgin!
>even the sluts!
>ESPECIALLY the sluts!
>how else are they supposed to give their super special first time that means love forever to the MC i'm self inserting as!
Why do I feel this slut that's really pure will catch on? Or at least be a gimmick used for a year or two then it becomes snark bait like that toast in mouth thing
No, but forcing purity everywhere actively makes it worse. How are you supposed to do anything but roll your eyes at the generic subversion of miss flirts and gets handsy with everyone is actually some yamato dameshit that longs to hold hands with the godlike MC?
It's literally making a character and saying "You thought this about them? WUH-OH, NOPE, THAT'S WRONG! Aren't you surprised? Please buy BDs."
This has been done before but in a more secular tone.
A boy falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
I can honestly say I've never crimaxed before, though an anime booty of sufficient size and beauty has been known to bring a tear to my eye.
That's a hell of an assumption based just on hearing that I don't cry when I bust a nut. The best orgasms I have are the ones that either feel so good that it happens almost embarrassingly quickly, like when you only make it about ten pages into the doujin because it's so fucking perfect, or the ones that have been built up with ecchi or fanservice and explode spectacularly once you get to doing the deed. Edging over the course of hours is a commitment and can be horribly impractical if I have sudden business to attend to or important errands to run, lot of times it just isn't worth it.
Maybe you're right. I actually tear up more from the act of edging itself than the actual orgasm. I wonder what is the physiological reasoning behind this. It's not pain or anything, it's the same response like you would have when you stare at the sun.
Slutdere had been picking up lately among NTRfags.
A girls who fucks and seduces other men for your sake.
I hate it though.
Yeah, I'm not the guy to ask about that either. Maybe I get a free day sometime soon and give it a go, see if it makes me cry. I'm open minded, I ain't afraid to get some of the ol' waterworks going, then weep afterwards. Heyooo.
I.. I want to know more about love nectar..
He's only into pure girls like pic related. He didn't know Anna was a sexual deviant
>Britain and France are both ara ara christmas cakes while US is the strapping young male that the two have decided on as their target to settle who's the better one in their rivalry