>**1,076位/***,971位 (***,336 pt) [*,**6予約] 2016/04/06

Holy shit is this bitcoin?

Mai tits is getting boring

>>136291424
Kill yourself, cancer

>B-but muh KyoAni Shop!

Kyoani can't make two good shows in a row. It's the law.

Anyone know how well Shaft is doing these days?

>>136291424
>Tfw kyoani financial report is getting worse and worse compared to 2011 (5 years ago)
>Tfw kyoani go bancrupt this year
>Tfw all the employee commit suicide
I think i'm ok with this

>>136291605
they can't make a good show at all you mean

>>136291499
Just like almost everything this season.

>>136291735
that would be the dream but as long as they have that fujobait show that will never happen sadly

>>136291735
A net profit of 1.3 million dollars is still pretty decent and we'll above average compared to most studios that aren't something like TOEI or owned by a publicly traded megacorp like Bandai Namco. Please stop spouting bullshit k?

>>136291793
If you're talking about free, the movie flopped though

GuP with half of the showing have more than double or is it triple now? the revenue than free movie

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>>136291424
Every season

>>136291577
>not trusting the KyoAni shop

This is what stalker usually does to shows that air first. It's just common sense that their rank is going to drop by the end of the week. Pretty much every show this season has low points right now. If you weren't a newfriend you'd know shows that air in January don't do particularly well since all the money spending during festivities dried up some wallets. This happens with vidya and movies also. Only a couple of shows will get past the 10k line this season, maybe even just one.

>>136291786
>>Just like almost everything this season.
Exactly anon. This entire season is pretty bad financially, Phantom World no exception

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This is pathetic as fuck
even a small family restaurant earn more than that

>>136291947
>If you weren't a newfriend you'd know shows that air in January don't do particularly well since all the money spending during festivities dried up some wallets.
But I know that anon. I know Winter is usually the dead season especially with Spring this season packed to the wall with shows people will actually buy. I'm just saying this one in particular is a complete bust

If needed, can KyoAni resort to a third season of Haruhi? Or do they need the permission from kadokawa?

I'd like to thank Kyoani for continuing to trigger autist virgins like OP.
Stay mad, cucks. Just remember Kyoani will continue to exist even after your sad, pathetic life ended.

>>136292034
You're in the wrong industry for assuming studios make big bucks. That's pretty average.

It's just filler anime to warm up for real masterpieces like euphonium s2 and KnK.

>>136292088
>autist virgins
you do know that Kyoani shows are aimed at autist virigins right?

>>136292103
>filler anime
Pretty much this. Kyoani is just having fun with this and isn't really expecting this to sell more than 10k+ or anything.
its quite obvious when you notice that they barely marketed it at all.

>>136292154
Just like any other anime.

Do people never get tired of this shitposting?

>>136292102
i thought /a/ was bigger than /co/

fuck

>>136292166
Not at all, something like One Punch man for example doesn't have any moe/fanservice pandering and can be watched by anyone

>>136292189
What does that have to do with anything?

>>136292195
I would post the image of that green haired whore's ass but I don't have it.

>>136292195
OPM pandered to fujos and faggots like you instead.

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>>136292195
oh my God. you're one of them.

the one who said "M-my OPM is better than your shitty fanservice animu!!111!!! hmphh!!!"

Oh God.

>>136292218
That ass shot was like literally half a second that you'd have to go frame by frame to see though. I mean we're all autists so we do that but not if you watch it normally

>>136291424
>It's over, Kyoani is finished

>>136292203
It shows that anime is a fucking niche shit, even much more than a fucking cartoon

more anime should be made with western influence, that'll helps the sale

Still early in the season come back after episode 6 then you can rally shitpost about rankings.

>>136292265
So they can make flops like Rokka no Sales?

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>>136292195
>>136292218
I got you fampai

Who fucking cares? Everything is flopping in this season anyway.

>>136292289
Rokka is just a piece of trash though,
more like Bebop and Ghibli anime in general

>>136292265
>more anime should be made with western influence, that'll helps the sale

Not really, Idols, mecha, Gakuen SoL and Mahou shoujo are the top selling genres. All inherently japanese.

>>136292265
Luckily I don't think like you, I'm not so insecure to think better sales will validate this industry. I'm smarter than that.

>>136292265
>more anime should be made with western influence
No, fuck no, one reason I watch anime is because I dislike western cartoons in general.

>>136292390
aren't you tired of the same "uguuu" stuff?

>>136292412
What are these uguu stuff you talk about, newshit?

>>136291424
kyoanus fans will save it, like Amagi

>>136292332
something like Attack on titan sold better than any moeshit you can think of these past years if you exclude Love Live

>>136292456
Amagi hadn't been out of Top 1000

>>136292412
If you want western stuff watch western stuff. You can variate, watching anime isn't a religion. Contrarily to what anon might say, you don't have to watch exclusively only one type of medium.

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>>136291424
>**1,076位/***,971位 (***,336 pt) [*,**6予約] 2016/04/06 無彩限のファントム・ワールド 1 [Blu-ray]
Kyoani will find a way they said

>>136292332
>>136292468
both of you should look at the sale chart

>>136292468
Not really.

>>136292412
I'm not tired of the tropes in anime, no.
Doesn't mean I like all series, but I do like anime in general.
Are you from /co/? if not, why do you even watch anime then? it doesn't sound like you enjoy it.

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>>136292088
>Just remember Kyoani will continue to exist even after your sad, pathetic life ended.
Really? Like Gainax and Ghibli?

>>136292483
never leave

>>136292468
What's so western about AoT?
It's teens fighting giant monsters and it's a shounen series too.

A lot of anime sold more BDs than AoT, not just LL!

>>136292483
I love you.

>>136292013
>>136291786

Nips estimate this season sale

11562 Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu

6134 Musaigen no Phantom World
5479 Dagashi Kashi
5418 Prince of Stride: Alternative

4331 GATE 2
4129 Assassination Classroom 2
3399 Durarara
3310 Schwarzesmarken

2516 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar
1854 Divine Gate
1837 Snow White with the Red Hair 2
1421 Active Raid: Kidou Kyoushuushitsu Dai Hakkei
1414 Phantasy Star Online 2: The Animation
1268 Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut

882 Dimension W
843 Haruchika: Haruta to Chika wa Seishun Suru
826 ERASED
820 Shoujo-tachi wa Kouya wo Mezasu
742 Sekkou Boys
718 Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm
715 Ajin
574 Bubuki Buranki
573 Koukaku no Pandora
554 NORN9
544 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
473 Luck & Logic
427 Reikenzan: Hoshikuzu-tachi no Utage
414 Ooya-san wa Shishunki!

source: 2ch

>>136291424
Judging sales for the first weeks usually doesn't turn out well.
Wait until episode 5 or so then you can laugh at the sales.

>>136292265
What is the problem with being niche as fuck? Why betray your current buyerbase for a base that might not even care about your shit?

>>136292565
Episode 5 still fail sometimes, like for Shirobako or YuYuYu

Is /co/ raiding us? Their shit generic lolsorandom cartoons and superhero garbage will never even come close to some of the masterpiece Japan has produced. Hell even Japan does superheroes better now with Hero Academy.

>>136292565
Dropping to 1000s position is really bad regardless of how many episodes aired.

>>136292601
>Shirobako
Everyone thought it would sell below 8k until episode 13 ...

>>136292510
Not that anon, and i fucking hate /co/ and their autistic family guy jokes

but i prefer anime to take a more serious approach to their story and animation, less shitty writing, better pacing and cinematography, less pandering shit and less QUALITY

it'll be nice if anime have their own breaking bad or GoT

>free movie bombed
>ufo s2 will sell less
>phantom bombing

kyoani is finished

>>136292642
Not even /co/ or /v/ have their own breaking bad. You need actually good writers and directors for that and none of our mediums have it.

>>136292628
8k is still pretty respectable, though.

>>136291424
As low as its rank is right now, it still has one of the higher number of points among this season's shows so far. Still, it's a bit too early to say if the show's a flop or not.

>**1,051位 (***,*99pt) [*,**0予約] 2016年03月18日 蒼の彼方のフォーリズム 第1巻<初回生産限定版> [Blu-ray]
This, on the other hand, has a slightly better rank (at least for now) but has far less points. This one, people should be more worried about.

Berserk anime animated by Madhouse would be better than Breaking Bad

>>136292613
That happens to shows that air first. Compare it to the first couple of days after an episode airs, not when 6 days have already passed.

>>136292684
/v/ have bloodborne though

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>>136292660
You know what it's time for.Just some aggressive dealings with Kadokawa. If KyoAni begs enough, it will happen.

>>136291424
Every KyoAni show ever. Yet once the actual numbers come out, you faggots disappear instantly. Quite pathetic to see again and again.

I don't even care about KyoAni but it's only two episodes in for every anime right now and Winter is always bad when it comes to sales.

>>136292732
Tamako Market and KnK sure sold well

>>136292265
>more anime should be made with western influence, that'll helps the sale
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>136292721
Into the trash it goes

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It can't possibly flop as hard as it should.

>>136292774
Tamako and KnK underperformed compared to other KyoAni shows but their sales are only average at worst (particularly Tamako). Their most recent flop was Nichijou and even then that had a lot of factors which led to its sales.

>>136292660
Free movie unfortunately didn't bomb, it only underperformed.

>>136292724
Kadokawa studio choice now is
number 1 Madhouse
number 2 Silver Link
number 3 IMS

so good luck with that

I'm happy if it sells at least 5k, which would be decent considering the source material is not popular or even in the radar for that matter. Hell not even 2ch has read the LNs. Not only that but it's not being published by Kadokawa which means there's virtually 0 marketing and publicity put into it.

Nowadays it's pretty hard to make something successful unless the source material is at least a top 30 in charts or, if anime original , the team behind it must be packed with heavy weights like in Madoka case.

>>136292603
>I only watched the the latest Marvel movies garbage and the Dark Knight Rises and I've no idea what I'm talking about
>>136291424
>>136292034
Someone care to explain how bad this is to mortals? (or what I'm supposed to get from these)?

>>136291424
I hope Japan stops making these shitty harems and starts making Gochiusa clones instead.

>>136292957
>I'm happy if it sells at least 5k, which would be decent considering the source material is not popular or even in the radar for that matter. Hell not even 2ch has read the LNs. Not only that but it's not being published by Kadokawa which means there's virtually 0 marketing and publicity put into it.

That has been Kyoani's modus operandi for a while now, every LN they publish under their label is unknown. It's the way that guaranteed them the most profit.

>>136291735
Except that it's better when compared with the previous few years? Their profit is also huge for a studio like KyoAni, especially when they pretty much only work on their own shit.

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>>136292483

>>136292642
But it does, it's just that the grass looks greener on the other side.
You have a lot of low quality, low value, easy revenue anime, and then once in a while we get good stuff with good writing, animation and all that.
It's the same in other mediums.
For every Breaking Bad you have 100 copies of CSI/Law and Order, everybody loves raymond, and so on.
Anime is the same, for every [your favourite high quality OVA/Movie/Series] you have 100 regurgitated copies of Lova Hina, a.k.a. haremshit with betamc.

>>136292975
2 billion yen revenue, 165 million yen in profit. Average gains for a private studio. For comparison Madhouse makes about the same, but for studios like Toei and Sunrise aka Bandai Namco that's pocket change but it's becausee they're publicly traded.

>>136292852
Nichijou was an adaptation, KyoAni didn't lose any money. I'm nut sure what the increase in manga sales looked like but Kadokawa are the ones that will be pissed. Apparently they don't give a fuck though because they came back for Amagi.

>>136293159
So basically everyone is tripping out on their own autism?

>>136291424
Make an Idol Anime KyoAni.

I don't even care about this show but I can't wait for /a/ to be wrong as usual.

>>136293319
>everyone
But yes, anything that could be used against KyoAni will be used without thinking twice about it, just like anything that speaks in favor for it. KyoAni threads in general are always literal shit on /a/.

>>136293357
They already did... sort of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgKVnEPf2c

>>136293185
>but Kadokawa are the ones that will be pissed.
and Kadokawa decided to not ever give Kyoani a big sauce again, all the famous stuffs like Mahouka or Overlord goes to Madhouse instead

>>136293442
It was Kadokawa's fault Nichijou flopped. And KyoAni usually doesn't bid for shows that aren't theirs nowadays since they're bussy with their own LNs. so even if Kadokawa wanted KyoAni to do a show they'd probably decline

>>136292642
>less pandering
>implying cartoons are more pandering than fucking Anime
also
>Breaking Bad or GoT
>not The Sopranos
plen

>>136293594
>implying cartoons are more pandering than fucking Anime
Literally every cartoon show from last year was pandering shit.

>>136293442
What? If anything Kadokawa is probably running after KyoAni and wants them to work on their shit. Nichijou also didn't stop getting released, it only ended last year I think. KyoAni is doing their own work now, they just don't seem to be interested in anything else unless it based on a personal relation like Amagi.

>>136293645
I'm not saying they aren't, but dear god Anon, anime has like 3+ harem shows and a fuckton of shitty LN adaptions EVERY SEASON

>>136293442
Kyoani is typecasted as the studio that does high school sol.
Of course they won't pick them.

>>136292564
They're overestimating Rakugo.

>>136293726
Do you think pandering just means fanservice or something?

>>136293771
This shit has never been accurate. Never.

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>>136293829
Not necessarily, but you got to be on denial if you think that recent anime is less pandering than recent cartoons.

>>136292189
It costs a few million usd to make one episode of the Simpsons. The Japs are poor as fuck

>>136294194
It only cost that much because of the directors/voice Actors salaries. The animation gets outsourced to Korea.

>>136292265
>Western influence
This bait, right?
You dumb nigga, you want feminist anime ?
I only watch this medium because its one of the few things that isn't cucked yet

>>136293832
True. Nips expected Osomatsu-san to sell 10k at the start of the season except now it's expected to sell over 40k now.

>>136292724
There won't be ever new season of Haruhi because it's autor hasn't written anything for 6 years.

>>136293393
Make it a fully fledged Idol Anime.

Just pick one of the highest grossing Idol Game apps, hire Jukki Hanada and KyoAni is good to go.

>>136291835
Are they able to outperform the Market?

How much foreign Money do they pull into Japan.

>>136292265
The only anime with Western influence that sold anything was Cowboy Beebop.

Red Line was a flop. So was Space Dandy.

>>136292226
>Genos for fujos
>Sonic for homos and fujos

Seems legit

Koito a cute!

CUTE!!!

>>136293978
Rick and Morty still are less pandering than most generic LNs

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>Been two episodes.
>Caring about sales already.
Either you've ran out of trolling material already or you are seriously bored.

>>136295454
It happens. Though it's more of, this early, there's already a (vague) picture of the season's potential hits and flops.

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But I thought they found a way

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I think twitter followers for a show makes a difference

>>136295716
>Haruchika and AoKana have that many followers
>still expected to flop

>>136293556
Amaburi?

>>136292412
>Uguuu

Wasn't Kanon over a decade ago?

>>136292103
>It's just filler anime to warm up for real masterpieces like euphonium s2 and KnK.
>>136292161
>Pretty much this. Kyoani is just having fun with this and isn't really expecting this to sell more than 10k+ or anything.
>its quite obvious when you notice that they barely marketed it at all.

Legitimate good posts!

>>136295912
Takehomo and Gatoh are fuckbuddies.

Well, battle harem shows don't sell anyway.

And then there are like two thousands other battle harem shows with more explicit fanservice.

how do i read this

>>136293442
>Kadokawa decided to not ever give Kyoani a big sauce again
Yeah, nobody wants to give a "big sauce" to KyoAni, right Kodansha?

>>136294874
>replying to him

You are absolutely fucking retarded.

>>136295374
Koito AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA shit

>>136291424
This garbage deserves to flop, to be honest. I'm glad it's not doing good. Kyoani should make more good anime like Hibike or Hyouka, instead of this or Amagi Brilliant Park of shit.

Well, at least kyoanus fags are starting to admit that not every shit that studio makes are GOTY. It's a start.

>>136297563
>GOTY

Hello /v/

Also Kyoani already has AOTY locked up with Hibike 2

>>136297611
Hibike S1 wasn't that good

>>136292642
Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones are overrated, mediocre soap operas. Hardly much better than the average anime coming out now.

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>>136292642
>he thinks Breaking Bad or GoT is some pinnacle of TV

Get some taste. There are even mediocre anime better than those overrated garbage.

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>>136297698
Yeah it was.
Go ahead though, I'll listen to your opinion if you want to elaborate

>>136292468

It really didn't. 40k is good, but the likes of GuP sold just as good.

>>136291424

>Only 1/6th through the show
>Already over 1000

Worst case scenario they sell 6-7k. That'll still be in the top 80% of sales this season and more than enough to turn a profit.

The KyoAni train cannot be stopped.

Phantom Shit is worst anime since Munto.

>>136297837
Forced yuribait
Forced drama
Forced animation
Forced wind ensamble
Forced Kumiko's reactions
Shitty ribbons
Shitty Asuka attention whore
Shitty male childhood friend
Not enough Goto, he's Goto, he plays tuba and his chubby girlfriend.

>>136297837
yuribailt
moe
school setting

>>136297887

It's only 336

1000 is amazon BD rank

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>>136297964
Nice shitposting and buzzwords /v/.

Don't know why I expected better from some retard crossboarder.

>>136297837
Mediocre characters, inane drama, forgettable.

>>136298036
the sad thing is that he's right about everything he said

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>Same shit happened literally three months ago with OPM which ended up breaking 10K
>Same shitposting occurred last spring with Hibike, which was successful enough for a surprisingly swift S2 announcement
>And before that, Amagi, which was also a success
Every season like clockwork

>>136292265
>more anime should be made with western influence, that'll helps the sale
Westerners buy even less anime than the Japs and foreign releases are purposefully sabotaged to discourage reverse importing. Transcoded audio (K-On!), fucked up coloring (pretty much anything released by Sentai), hard subs (NISA), getting shitty masters (Sailor Moon but that's because Toei are fucking cunts), DVD only (Mononoke because like I said, Toei are fucking cunts) etc. The only one that doesn't consistently shit up the releases is AniPlex, but they're retardedly expensive and literally nobody in the west is going to pay JP pricing points per volume. It would be nice to buy Monogatari BDs, but I'm sure as hell not going to pay sixty fucking dollars for a volume.

>>136298036
>not getting the irony
Just reading "forced" 1 time should be enough.

Also, I've never been to /v/.
Also, I own the fucking whole show in BD.

>>136297964
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>136298124
Explain to me what forced animation is.

>>136298124
Go ahead and explain each one carefully then and with examples from the show.

>>136298138
You're alright anon, I got the BDs too

>>136297881
AoT volume 1 sold more than 70k copies.

>It's a Kyoani show
>Mediocre animation (nice colors though)
>Nice character design
>Sprinkled with blur, flare lense...
>Mediocre plot
>BUT it has otaku pandering so it automatically makes it 10/10 materpiece AOTY

Everytime

>>136298271
The first volume sold 70K and they dropped down to like 40K by the end. Even though that's still stupidly fucking impressive, that's one hell of a massive dropoff in such a tiny period of time. It took Monogatari four series' over the course of six years to have the same dropoff as AoT did in one. When (or if) S2 goes underway, the average will probably be less than 25K.

>>136297468
>Amaburi
>shit
No you

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>>136292889
>IMS

>>136298148
Forced animation is when they insert a scene or setting to show off their abilities and it doesn't add to the story, I don't personally hate , I like animation porn just like I like animated porn

>>136299001
>Forced animation is when they insert a scene or setting to show off their abilities
>it doesn't add to the story
wow, you are retarded

>>136292050
Maybe if someone wrote a long formal letter to Tanigawa that will be possible.

>>136296215
for the graph? google seismometer.

>>136299095
>You're retarded
Great argument you got there, I'm absolutely stumped, watch Hibike again and you'll see what I mean

Kyoani needs to step up their game. First rid of the titty monster characters. They're a joke

>>136296215
You don't, you go back to Reddit

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>>136298014

>>136292525
Why do you have to remind me?

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>>136299001
>Forced animation is whenever the animators actually animate something in an animated work
If you hate it so much why don't you just stick to manga?

>>136299725
You can't even fucking read you fucking aboriginal nigger

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>>136295954
>Kanon was over a decade ago

>>136291424
Why do mods not delete bait threads?
Even the trolls and the baited one must be tired of Kyoani bait threads.

>>136299259
There is no point in arguing with imbecile like you.

>>136292544
>Attack on Dosh
>Love Cash
You are comparing two of the most successful animes of the past 15 years. You want to look at something that barely made it?
See Infinite Stratos, they barely broke even but thanks to toy sales they even went plus.

>>136301900
Let me rephrase this before someone tears me a new one Love Live and Attack on Titan are amongst the 50 best selling anime of the past 15 years. Talking which one earned a bigger mountain of money is useless, comparing flops and barely successful investments is much more interesting

>>136301900
>See Infinite Stratos, they barely broke even but thanks to toy sales they even went plus.

IS sold like 33k last time I remember.

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>>136292564
>Japanese
>Good with numbers

>>136291424

Give it till the halfway point, people forget that Hibike Euphonium was doing about the same or worse at this point before the Kyoani purchasing force that always shows up kicked in to save them. It's going to happen and it's going to sell it's 6-7K though it might not be the top seller of the season anymore. Personally I can't tell what's going to be yet, maybe Gate season 2 can manage it in an ultra slow Winter, maybe Shouwa Genroku will catch on even more with Fujoshi, but that's far from set in stone either.

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>>136291835

Of course being owned by Bandai Namco means you basically get to sit on your fucking ass and collect revenue and royalties from Gundam and Love Live and what not and now apparently Girls und Panzer too whose BD's are charting higher on Amazon than a lot of shows from this season this past week

>>136292034

Kyoani made a lot of really bad investments at the turn of the century, it's pretty well-documented that their financial situation isn't as great as a lot of people think it is. People think they're the shining example of the independent studio producing their own content success story, but they're no Nippon Sunrise that's for sure.

>>136292957

Most anime selling 5K+ is practically enough to put it into the top 4 nowadays.

>>136293159

It's because they actually own most of their own content and get to keep most if not all of the profits and a lot of their content are mega cash cows like Super Sentai, Gundam, Love Live, GuP etc.

>>136293393

Literally just produced by Lantis, makers of all virtually all hit idol anime. They might force another idol scene into Phantom World for all we know.

>>136298695

If fujoshi are no longer interested in it it's going to be more catastrophic than that

>>136293020
Underrated post.

>>136303065
Kyoani is from the turn of the century

>>136303065
Sounds like bullshit, they just bought land to build a new studio.

Kyoani is the poster boy for rags to riches in the industry. Started from the bottom now we here

>>136303065
Why does Trigger want to be like Kyoani then?

>>136291424
phantom shit bombing is great, kyoani apologists BTFO as far as the eye can see.

>>136302393
attack on titan was a cheap bd unlike normal otaku bds

>>136304358
>Being this new

I am used to Kyoanifags autism but people like you should just refrain from coming here just to post /v/ tier comments.

I'm kyoani-fag and even I say results are expected and deserved. The only thing show has are Mai's tits which isn't enough for sales.

>>136301900
attack on titan was a cheap bd unlike normal otaku bds http://rankstker.net/show.cgi?&n=B00C38PQE2
Tbf bakemonogatari income only 1 season episode still dwarfing shingeki, stop overating it

http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view check it

>>136296177
The highest sales by bd or dvd sales last year by oricon is battle harem called UBW

>>136304296
That's totally not a sign of hubris.

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>>136300333
>I don't hate the animation medium, but man, it's fucking annoying when they animate shit

>>136292034
Where did you get this? This is for purely academic researching purposes.

It seems harem this season mostly has some serious themes and premise.

>>136306638
You're right, it's not. It's a sign they're healthy financially and growing every year. Besides they've been around since the early 80s about time they built another studio.