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Now that the dust has settled, what did everyone think about Charlotte?
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>>136183839
It was bad.
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It was bad.
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It was bad.
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Incredibly bad
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it's shit
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It was shit.
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>>136183839
Really bad.
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It was okay.
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It was AOTS by far.
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>>136183874
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>>136183951
It was better than Angel Beats tho...
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>>136184044

That was also shit.
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>>136183839
It was good.
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>>136184044
I liked angel beats better, since it was able to wrap things up in a satisfying conclusion, instead, with Charlotte I felt like they wanted to cram another cour into 2 episodes.
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>>136183839
I liked that final episode, where he went around stealing powers.
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>>136184206
Are you talking about Kirito Lelouch traveling the world at the end? because that was one of the few things they did proper, I thought.
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>>136184313
>>136184296
It was neat watching him fall into total madness
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Pizza sauce was great, everything else was shit.
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>>136183839
I feel the same as I did when it ended, wasted potential.

The last episode could have been it's own season. it felt like the end of a VN only without the 50 hours of emotional investment.

It also really annoyed me that they never even acknowledged the fact that what they are doing might not be the best thing. they just arbitrarily decided that these powers shouldn't exist, so that makes forcibly removing them a-okay. MC looked like an X-men villain in the last episode, but at the end it was just "good job, world saved"

also needed more flashlight loli
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So in the last episode, when he tries to force his sleep, and then wakes up to the news, was that him who massacred the hospital?
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It was a really great 10-episode anime.
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>>136183839
Pretty bad, but it had good OP.
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>>136183839
Dogshit from the Start to the end!

6/10 I enjoyed watching it each weak with /a/.
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>>136184296
>gets time traveling eye busted
>his friend dies
>unable to travel back in time to save him
later on
>steals power to heal
>doesn't heal his own eye
>"Nah I'll just continue stealing people's powers lol who cares about my dead friend"
Only part I thought was bullshit
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>>136184044
Angel Beats had pacing problems but Charlotte had mental problems.
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>>136184588
He didnt want to become Homura
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I wanted more focus on edgelord/manipulative bastard Yuu than after his sister died and ep1.
I thought that the ending arc and the timey wimey stuff was horribly out of place compared to the rest of the show.
Who/What the fuck was Charlotte again?
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>>136184666
It was the name of the Comet that gave people mutations, Satan
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>>136184588
Holy fuck would you want to relive the last 2 years of your life? I fucking wouldn't
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>>136183839
What happened to PA's budgets?
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>>136184730
His niisan had no trouble reliving his 6(?) last years until he went blind. On top of everything he wouldn't have gone nuts if he had stopped stealing powers right after stealing heal.
Fuck, he could have healed his niichan of his blindness. Fuck.
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>>136184588
>>"Nah I'll just continue stealing people's powers lol who cares about my dead friend"
much as I was upset by the plot in that arc, it fits with his conviction that 'powers are bad'.
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Who the fuck was this girl?
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>>136183839
I loved every second of it, the highlight of the season for me.

However, the pacing was horrible, just as it was with Angel Beats. Both series needed more episodes to not rush things.

Also, the ending was pretty tame, I just wanted to see more romance. And bringing the imouto back from death was cheap as fuck. Just lead the dead stay cold.
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The annoying loli was cute.
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>>136184877
Isn't that the girl he tries to seduce in the first episode? Pancake girl.
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>>136184730
Are you fucking serious? I would love to relive the last 2, 5, 10 or 15 years of my life.

I'd make sure to do things properly this time.
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>>136184911
de gozaru~
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>>136183839
Great music, cute characters, shitty pacing and writing.

>>136184044
That's not saying much. They're both bad.
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Idol best girl, imouto second best. Everything else was complete dogshit.
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My reaction to Charlotte and to Boku dake ga Inai Machi
https://youtu.be/yTEdf5VS3EA?t=8s
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>>136183839
Lost potential. (It was ok, but definitely could've been miles better)
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>>136184746
Too many failed projects I guess? If I recall, Glasslip sold piss-poor which is expected. But even their decent shows like Nagi-Asu didn't sell all that well either. Their most recent success was Shirobako.
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>>136183839
Pretty much the AOTS, also guaranteed more original Key+PA Works anime in the future.
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remember how fast best girl saved Yuu in her only scene?
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>>136185334
>>136185391
Is PA the new KyoAni now that KyoAni is churning out shit?
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>>136183839
Boring start, and good but rushed end.
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>>136184877

I thought it was supposed to be his sister
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>>136185543
Yep KyoAni is dead, I can guarantee PA will make more masterpieces like Charlotte
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>>136185543
No because kyoani doesnt has a single successful original anime in their record.
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>>136185655
>successful original anime

In what world does this matter a single shit?
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>>136184730
Just cure onii-chan and send him one last time to fix everyhing up, just in case tho, also tell him where to find the healing power.
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>>136184877
VN original character.
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>>136184967
She loves pizza sauce too much that she turn in to one.
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>>136185869
>cure prof X
Yeah I'm sure he can trust a guy who's been spending countless years leaping in time.
Imagine all the rapes he probably committed.
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>>136185712
In the real world, hipster-kun. Is harder for an original to succeed because it doesnt has a fanbase ready to buy it regardless of quality.
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>>136186021
So by that logic NNA sucked because it didn't sell well? I don't see how success correlates to quality of material, especially in this industry.
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>>136183839
It had some serious pacing issues. Also I found the side characters to be annoying. Glasses was funny until blond bitch came around and her cutesy bullshit became his main character trait. While Charlotte had its moments it is 4/10 in my book, at least it had a great opening song.
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>>136183839
Not as good as Glasslip.
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>>136184666
charlotte was the first one who collected all the powers. oh wait that is the much cooler ending /a/ thought up
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The episodic part was boring and had little impact on the story, so it felt like a waste of time.
The only reason I finished it is because the MC was cute.
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THE SINS NEVER DIE
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>>136183839
I only watched it for the extremely important and development trigger that was the baseball episode. Maeda never always delivers.
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>>136183839
Best trainwreck in a long time. Awesome music too.
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I only stayed for the Metal Gear memes to be honest.
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>>136183839
The ending was an absolute shitshow
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I'M NUCLEAR. I'M WILD
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It started off okay then went to shit as the show went on.
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I liked it when he almost did cocaine but then didnt
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>>136183839
It was shit when it aired and it's still shit now, fuck off, OP.
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>>136190323
I'm 90% that was weed. Japs hate weed.
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>>136183839
I liked it. It would've been a lot better if they made the last couple episodes into season.
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Ayumi, Nao, that blonde whore, and the opening were the only things good about it.
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>>136191683
In the end did she fucked the glasses bro ?
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>>136183839
It was alright
The pace was a bit too fast near the end i feel. But it wasnt bad, nope
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>>136184313
they should have had at least 2 episodes on it. The whole helicopter rescue in china(?) felt rushed as fuck
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>>136191842
No, the male characters in every anime are homosexuals, remember?
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>>136184588
If he fixed his eye and time traveled back to before the date where his brother time traveled back to (and therefor he wouldn't be blind) wouldn't they both be able to time travel? (and effectively be able to time travel back in time infinitely?)
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I thought I understood every word of this show, but I don't recall much in the way of logical justification for stealing everyone's powers. It just seemed to be a very Japanese idea that anything individual and different is bad, therefore it must be suppressed.
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>>136184022
No it wasn't.
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>>136184044
Angel Beats was miles better than Charlotte.
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>>136184466
>hey just arbitrarily decided that these powers shouldn't exist, so that makes forcibly removing them a-okay.

This part really pissed me off the most. Just because they are getting fucked over doesn't mean that it was their decision to make. Why do they feel to be in charge of that? Why do they get to decide what is best for millions of other people?

Also, how come no one looked into him? Are you telling me that no one would have tried to find out who he was? He was Japanese who spoke no other language fluently, BUT Japanese for fuck's sake. How easy would it to have been to go back and find his family? Shit, how did no one else in the world not know about their school? Why didn't they team up with other people outside of Japan in order to have some sort of protection for themselves?

Why didn't they have trained fighters?! Why did he send his little brother all by himself rather than trying to do more investigating? Why didn't they work on a better intelligence network?

Why is this story so fucking stupid?!
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>>136184588
Having the ability to heal and time travel would have been so helpful. Him not utilizing that almost seemed OOC for him. I was not convinced of his decision not to use that power to its full advantage.
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>>136184889
>>136184296
>>136184044
>>136184022
>>136185391
>>136186789
I rarely mention people's 'taste,' but do all the people that like this show just prefer terrible shows? This goes beyond waster potential, It was a show of conveniences and coincidences. I don't understand how anyone thought it was the best show of the season...of any season...ever. It looked nice. That was it.

Please help me understand.
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Reading the synopsis, what was the price they had to pay for their powers?
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Worse than mekaku.
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>>136184466
>>136195222
Taking the powers away didn't seem like a big deal to me. The kids that had those powers would have lost them eventually, most would be none the wiser, and some of them would have endangered themselves and others if they had assumed those powers were there to stay.
It was a perfectly ethical decision to treat that syndrome like the chicken pox that it was.
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>>136183839
Worst PA Works show after Canaan and Angel Beats. Though expected from Maeda shit.

Worst of it, its not just bad, its utterly forgettable.
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>>136195526
Their powers were imperfect most of the time, and once they grew out of puberty they would lose them.
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>>136195622
That doesn't seem like a price at all. I was expecting it to be your life force or something similar
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>>136185543
>Is PA the new KyoAni n
well, they are airing Hyouka! Euphonium this season.

But as you can see from it being badly animated and directed shit - they are stil very far from actual KyoAni.

Not to forget that KyoAni grew up from adapting Kadokawa and Kei shit - while PA Works is still at this stage.
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>>136184466
Flashlight loli was the cutest.
Nice double dubs.
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>>136183839
Wasted potential.

Rather upsetting.
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>>136195413
Name your best shows from the last 4-6 seasons.
Mine: GochiUsa2, Charlotte, Ore Monogatari, Jojo, AmaBuri, Barakamon.
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>>136183839
it was shit
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>>136183839
Should've been 2-cour. Maeda's habit of writing stories too ambitious for his own good kicked in again.
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>>136195652
>>136195526
Sciencists around the would would capture them and treat them as lab rats.
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>>136183839
It was pretty good as long as you stayed out of the threads on /a/. People got into this confirmation bias thing where they called it a trainwreck and then looked for things to ocmplain about. While there were certainly things to complain about, people on here were complaining about nonsensical shit that was actually good. Just like the current Phantom World threads. Except Charlotte was significantly better than Phantom World is. Solid 7/10.
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>>136183839
This show gave me hemaroids
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>>136189733
What kind of memes
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>>136184877
Duh, that's Charlotte.
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>>136183839
It was fun to watch Lelo-err, Yuu every time he goes full edge(like that time he went around fighting people). The best part was when he went around looting everyone's ability the last episode, although I wished they used that instead for like a new season, all about him travelling the world or maybe just a few episode, I just wish they didn't compress all that in one fucking episode
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>>136183839
It was awesome watching it and shitposting with /a/ every week, but if you didn't watch it with /a/ I'm so sorry.
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Should've ended after the imouto was saved.
Kept imagining a better version of itself.
Mega-edge MC was fun. Too bad it lasted maybe 3 episodes
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It was hilarious and the threads were fun earlier in the season before it just became dull reposts and Metal Gear.
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>>136196910
>Solid 7/10
I generally agree with you anon, but come on. Train wreck or not it was a mess. Nothing unwatchable but certainly not 7 material. 5/10, 6/10 if we're being generous.
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>>136192089
When they're about to reach adolescence they could time travel to become younger again
>they can both become time gods
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>>136199207
>Should've ended after the imouto was saved.
Did saving her even do anything?
So she can be saved, but Pooh had to die and was treated like he never existed because
>oh look, a terrorist organization with a flashlight loli that will totally know when I time-travel
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>>136183839
One of the best of 2015. Most of the people on this thread is still mad because it sold better than their moe shit so they can get fucked. Not to mention how the show has been getting so much shitposting since it started airing.
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>>136183839
Suffered badly from wasted potential, could have been so much better.
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>that episode 7
I'm fucking glad I watched it with /a/. It was hilarious.
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>>136195413
Still better than 70% of your average seasonal haremshit trash.
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>>136195413
Define terrible. It was a show by key, it will always have conveniences and coincidences with some supernatural explanation. If you've watched anything else by key you would've noticed how they were all similar in a way so some of us knew what to expect. I'm in no way calling this a masterpiece. The main problem of this show was the episode limit and partly shit writing which made the plot, structure and pacing suffer greatly, that's about it. It had a lot of other great moments which people seem to overlook. Notice how most of the edgelords in this thread are acting immature over the MC going through a depressed phase? I understand why people hate it but my god, this show gets more hate than actual trash shows like sao.
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>>136199453
>>136199645
It's not the case of people being mad but actually quite realistic.
I have nothing against Maeda, hell, I think Angel Beats is a solid 7/10.
People consider Charlotte bad for the wasted potential and they are 100% right. Most of the shows of that season, either harem or moe, didn't disappoint as much as Charlotte did.
It's not a 4/10, but not it's certainly not more than a 6/10 show.
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>>136196910
>It was pretty good as long as you stayed out of the threads on /a/.
Episode 11 genuinely made me mad before I saw any of the threads about it. It was a horrible episode.
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Maeda seriously can't write stories anymore after Little Busters.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZptKZ8LBcg
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It was garbage in a "this is so bad I can't stop watching" way, kinda like the original SAO.
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That last episode and ending brought the show up to a 7.5/10.
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>>136193095
>I thought I understood every word of this show, but I don't recall much in the way of logical justification for stealing everyone's powers. It just seemed to be a very Japanese idea that anything individual and different is bad, therefore it must be suppressed.

It's just Maeda being a pessimistic asshole.

Contrast Charlotte to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: in JoJo, while there are plenty of people who use their stands to hurt innocents, most of the good guys who survive end up living fulfilling lives working for the better good. Araki views supernatural abilities as tools that may be misused but are good things in the right hands, he's cautiously optimistic about them while Maeda is just full NOOO ALL POWERS ARE BAD HUMANS WILL DESTROY THE WORLD WITH THEM.
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Charlotte was the best to me
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It was pretty bad.
It only reached the "So bad it's good"-status in the last few episodes.

Naofags are the worst.
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>>136199795
>It's not the case of people being mad but actually quite realistic.
Who are you talking about? The children on this board? If you've been on this for at least a season you would know it's true.

>Most of the shows of that season, either harem or moe, didn't disappoint as much as Charlotte did.
It's not a 4/10, but not it's certainly not more than a 6/10 show.
That's just your own opinion. I've watched dozens of shows last year and Charlotte was definitely no where near the worst, especially against the ones that were praised here. If you were THAT disappointed then it's probably your fault for having shit expectations.

>>136199998
>Maeda is just full NOOO ALL POWERS ARE BAD HUMANS WILL DESTROY THE WORLD WITH THEM
I seriously hope you're joking. There was a lot more than just "hurhur stop using powers because it's bad" but then again if you knew how to read subtitles, you would've known this.
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>>136200134
>Naofags
There goes that word again. I find it hilarious that edgelords are still upset over losing their muh edgy le ledouche gary stu MC
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>>136199795
>Most of the shows of that season, either harem or moe, didn't disappoint as much as Charlotte did.
The real disappointment that season was Gakkou Gurashi.

If you knew anything about Maeda you wouldn't have been disappointed with Charlotte, I expected something kinda bad and got something kinda bad.
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what's up with nips and x-acto knives?
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It was a solid 3/10.
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>>136200236
That's not the point.
She was boring and people who liked her were stupid from the beginning.

You are just making excuses for why people don't like her.
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>>136200406
>She was boring and people who liked her were stupid from the beginning.
>You are just making excuses for why people don't like her.
Am I being trolled here?
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>>136200538
Why would I be trolling?
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>>136200681
You're just making excuses because people do like her. Just because you have shit taste in characters, it doesn't mean you should go spouting nonsense.
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>>136199756
>I understand why people hate it but my god, this show gets more hate than actual trash shows like sao.
SAO was just over-hyped and turned out to disappoint plenty of expectations. It wasn't good, but it wasn't absolute shit either—the fanbase on the other hand...

Even discounting the wasted potential, Charlotte doesn't need those things to be bad. It was bad by its own virtue, and had a terrible plot all around, with a pacing that barely made sense.
You can argue that it didn't have much space to work with at only 1 cour, but Charlotte isn't an adaptation, and didn't need to cover X amount of volumes in Y episodes, and thus the number of useless episodes that were included for the didn't need to be included, and could have been better used towards developing the plot.

It had plenty of pleasant scenes and interactions, but in the end it fell apart. If it had more episodes, maybe they'd have more time to flesh out the plot and characters, or maybe they would just squander it.
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>>136200755
Alright, what's so great about her?
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>>136200900
>Even discounting the wasted potential
I wish people would stop using this as an excuse. The entire show was built upon the promise (episode 12) ever since the announcement. It wasn't supposed to be about Yuu travelling or even have powerusers fight against scientists or whatever. Yes, it would've been nice but that was never their intention.

>had a terrible plot all around, with a pacing that barely made sense
Like I said above, it was building up to one point. There wasn't really a "plot", it was just random events that happened just so they can develop the mc. Had they more episodes like they were "supposed" to get, maybe they could've gotten a better plot which would've fixed those issues you stated but since they didn't have that luxury they just had to throw everything in. What useless episodes do you speak of? In the end what you said still doesn't explain why this show gets so much hate than other shows which were far worse.
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It was pretty stupid.
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Post more pizza loli!
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>>136201242
You mention a "promise", like I'm supposed to know what you meant.
"That's not what it was supposed to be about" doesn't mean shit to a viewer. People come into a show, and build expectations—if the show completely disappoints those expectations, of course people are going to call it shit.
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Charlotte was okay, but it went full asspull at the end.

But I disagree with people here, Charlotte was way better than Angel Beats. It wasn't even touching.
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>>136183839
OP YOU JUST GOT BTFO AGAIN, EVERY CHARLOTTE THREAD.
Holy shit, I legitimately laughing my ass out. Keep going OP, keep going.
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>>136201242
>It wasn't supposed to be about Yuu travelling or even have powerusers fight against scientists or whatever
I think the root cause of all the show's problems was just a massive case of identity crisis. The latter half of the episodes had no goddamn idea what they wanted to be. It's like they had the premise "Highschoolers with superpowers", came up with 3 or 4 different possible plots, and some fucktard goes and says to throw all of them into a blender.
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Someone post Nao being headpatted!
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>>136201449
>People come into a show, and build expectations—if the show completely disappoints those expectations, of course people are going to call it shit.
Well there's your problem right there. You built your own expectations without knowing who made it and learning about it's supposed to be about so of course you're going to be disappointed. You have no one else to blame but yourself. The show even hinted dozens of times of what was coming but got mad because it didn't go the way they wanted it to. That's like me saying K-on! is shit because it they didn't end up killing each other in the end.

>>136201510
Like I said before, it had something to build upon towards the end. Just the structure and shit pacing made it harder to figure out what they were trying to do. Like Angel Beats, it had no real plot, it's just random events that lead to a twist in the end. You should've known this would happen given key's history.
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>>136201545
>>136201708
>>136201478
The weekend has started already?
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>>136201900
>You built your own expectations without knowing who made it and learning about it's supposed to be about
Nigga what?
You expect me to go out of my way to look up articles on what it's supposed to be about? Why couldn't they SHOW us what it's supposed to be about, instead of me having to go read secondary material about it?

People always bitch about adaptations having unexplained holes, but when it's pointed out that the source material explains it, the response is almost always "the adaptation should be able to stand on it own," or "we're talking about the adaptation; not the source".

A show can go ahead and throw in a twist to lead away from built up expectations, to surprise a viewer and such, but Charlotte simply didn't seem to know what it wanted to be—at least not from my perspective.
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>>136202166
>You expect me to go out of my way to look up articles on what it's supposed to be about? Why couldn't they SHOW us what it's supposed to be about, instead of me having to go read secondary material about it?
No, I don't. I expect people to read the fucking synopsis or at least look at the cover instead of watching a show without getting so much as a hint of what it's about. You should stop watching shows simply because someone tells you to.
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>>136183839
Waste of time
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>>136202179
Someone's getting triggered.
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>>136183839
it was bad
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>>136201242
>The entire show was built upon the promise (episode 12) ever since the announcement

What the fuck is this shit? So you tell me that they wasted a fuckton of episodes of highschoolers interacting with each other because they were eventually leading up to MC stealing powers?

This anon is right >>136201510
They had a huge identity crisis somewhere in the middle. Had they decided to follow just one path (i.e. highschoolers adapting to their powers/losing their powers OR MC stealing powers at the behest of his brother), then there wouldn't be any issues.

But of course, it's fucking Maeda, aka Mr. "let's put every possible plot thread we could come up with and come up with a meh conclusion", so I'm not at all surprised that Charlotte turned out to be bad.
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I liked it
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>>136183839
>dust


There was so much dust because it was dry. Bad anime leaves a layer of scurff on your screen
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>>136202572
Those are still so white and untarnished!
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It was trash.
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>>136202572

?
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it was pretty bad, but it was fun watching it with /a/
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>>136184044

Your opinion is shit, and you should feel bad.
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>>136202572
Reminder that there people this retarded.
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>>136202543
>So you tell me that they wasted a fuckton of episodes of highschoolers interacting with each other because they were eventually leading up to MC stealing powers?
Are you special or something? There's a thing called "character development". Had they went straight to the point, you would be crying like a baby, what the hell is this school about, who are these people, why do these kids have abilities, why is mc willing to risk his life, how the hell does the world work etc.

>Had they decided to follow just one path (i.e. highschoolers adapting to their powers/losing their powers OR MC stealing powers at the behest of his brother), then there wouldn't be any issues.
I feel sorry for you if you actually think a one dimensional plot like that would be even remotely interesting, regardless of how bad the plot of Charlotte is right now.
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