>>136183839 I feel the same as I did when it ended, wasted potential.
The last episode could have been it's own season. it felt like the end of a VN only without the 50 hours of emotional investment.
It also really annoyed me that they never even acknowledged the fact that what they are doing might not be the best thing. they just arbitrarily decided that these powers shouldn't exist, so that makes forcibly removing them a-okay. MC looked like an X-men villain in the last episode, but at the end it was just "good job, world saved"
>>136184296 >gets time traveling eye busted >his friend dies >unable to travel back in time to save him later on >steals power to heal >doesn't heal his own eye >"Nah I'll just continue stealing people's powers lol who cares about my dead friend" Only part I thought was bullshit
I wanted more focus on edgelord/manipulative bastard Yuu than after his sister died and ep1. I thought that the ending arc and the timey wimey stuff was horribly out of place compared to the rest of the show. Who/What the fuck was Charlotte again?
>>136184730 His niisan had no trouble reliving his 6(?) last years until he went blind. On top of everything he wouldn't have gone nuts if he had stopped stealing powers right after stealing heal. Fuck, he could have healed his niichan of his blindness. Fuck.
>>136184746 Too many failed projects I guess? If I recall, Glasslip sold piss-poor which is expected. But even their decent shows like Nagi-Asu didn't sell all that well either. Their most recent success was Shirobako.
>>136183839 It had some serious pacing issues. Also I found the side characters to be annoying. Glasses was funny until blond bitch came around and her cutesy bullshit became his main character trait. While Charlotte had its moments it is 4/10 in my book, at least it had a great opening song.
>>136184588 If he fixed his eye and time traveled back to before the date where his brother time traveled back to (and therefor he wouldn't be blind) wouldn't they both be able to time travel? (and effectively be able to time travel back in time infinitely?)
I thought I understood every word of this show, but I don't recall much in the way of logical justification for stealing everyone's powers. It just seemed to be a very Japanese idea that anything individual and different is bad, therefore it must be suppressed.
>>136184466 >hey just arbitrarily decided that these powers shouldn't exist, so that makes forcibly removing them a-okay.
This part really pissed me off the most. Just because they are getting fucked over doesn't mean that it was their decision to make. Why do they feel to be in charge of that? Why do they get to decide what is best for millions of other people?
Also, how come no one looked into him? Are you telling me that no one would have tried to find out who he was? He was Japanese who spoke no other language fluently, BUT Japanese for fuck's sake. How easy would it to have been to go back and find his family? Shit, how did no one else in the world not know about their school? Why didn't they team up with other people outside of Japan in order to have some sort of protection for themselves?
Why didn't they have trained fighters?! Why did he send his little brother all by himself rather than trying to do more investigating? Why didn't they work on a better intelligence network?
>>136184588 Having the ability to heal and time travel would have been so helpful. Him not utilizing that almost seemed OOC for him. I was not convinced of his decision not to use that power to its full advantage.
>>136184889 >>136184296 >>136184044 >>136184022 >>136185391 >>136186789 I rarely mention people's 'taste,' but do all the people that like this show just prefer terrible shows? This goes beyond waster potential, It was a show of conveniences and coincidences. I don't understand how anyone thought it was the best show of the season...of any season...ever. It looked nice. That was it.
>>136184466 >>136195222 Taking the powers away didn't seem like a big deal to me. The kids that had those powers would have lost them eventually, most would be none the wiser, and some of them would have endangered themselves and others if they had assumed those powers were there to stay. It was a perfectly ethical decision to treat that syndrome like the chicken pox that it was.
>>136183839 It was pretty good as long as you stayed out of the threads on /a/. People got into this confirmation bias thing where they called it a trainwreck and then looked for things to ocmplain about. While there were certainly things to complain about, people on here were complaining about nonsensical shit that was actually good. Just like the current Phantom World threads. Except Charlotte was significantly better than Phantom World is. Solid 7/10.
>>136183839 It was fun to watch Lelo-err, Yuu every time he goes full edge(like that time he went around fighting people). The best part was when he went around looting everyone's ability the last episode, although I wished they used that instead for like a new season, all about him travelling the world or maybe just a few episode, I just wish they didn't compress all that in one fucking episode
>>136199207 >Should've ended after the imouto was saved. Did saving her even do anything? So she can be saved, but Pooh had to die and was treated like he never existed because >oh look, a terrorist organization with a flashlight loli that will totally know when I time-travel
>>136183839 One of the best of 2015. Most of the people on this thread is still mad because it sold better than their moe shit so they can get fucked. Not to mention how the show has been getting so much shitposting since it started airing.
>>136195413 Define terrible. It was a show by key, it will always have conveniences and coincidences with some supernatural explanation. If you've watched anything else by key you would've noticed how they were all similar in a way so some of us knew what to expect. I'm in no way calling this a masterpiece. The main problem of this show was the episode limit and partly shit writing which made the plot, structure and pacing suffer greatly, that's about it. It had a lot of other great moments which people seem to overlook. Notice how most of the edgelords in this thread are acting immature over the MC going through a depressed phase? I understand why people hate it but my god, this show gets more hate than actual trash shows like sao.
>>136199453 >>136199645 It's not the case of people being mad but actually quite realistic. I have nothing against Maeda, hell, I think Angel Beats is a solid 7/10. People consider Charlotte bad for the wasted potential and they are 100% right. Most of the shows of that season, either harem or moe, didn't disappoint as much as Charlotte did. It's not a 4/10, but not it's certainly not more than a 6/10 show.
>>136193095 >I thought I understood every word of this show, but I don't recall much in the way of logical justification for stealing everyone's powers. It just seemed to be a very Japanese idea that anything individual and different is bad, therefore it must be suppressed.
It's just Maeda being a pessimistic asshole.
Contrast Charlotte to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: in JoJo, while there are plenty of people who use their stands to hurt innocents, most of the good guys who survive end up living fulfilling lives working for the better good. Araki views supernatural abilities as tools that may be misused but are good things in the right hands, he's cautiously optimistic about them while Maeda is just full NOOO ALL POWERS ARE BAD HUMANS WILL DESTROY THE WORLD WITH THEM.
>>136199795 >It's not the case of people being mad but actually quite realistic. Who are you talking about? The children on this board? If you've been on this for at least a season you would know it's true.
>Most of the shows of that season, either harem or moe, didn't disappoint as much as Charlotte did. It's not a 4/10, but not it's certainly not more than a 6/10 show. That's just your own opinion. I've watched dozens of shows last year and Charlotte was definitely no where near the worst, especially against the ones that were praised here. If you were THAT disappointed then it's probably your fault for having shit expectations.
>>136199998 >Maeda is just full NOOO ALL POWERS ARE BAD HUMANS WILL DESTROY THE WORLD WITH THEM I seriously hope you're joking. There was a lot more than just "hurhur stop using powers because it's bad" but then again if you knew how to read subtitles, you would've known this.
>>136199756 >I understand why people hate it but my god, this show gets more hate than actual trash shows like sao. SAO was just over-hyped and turned out to disappoint plenty of expectations. It wasn't good, but it wasn't absolute shit either—the fanbase on the other hand...
Even discounting the wasted potential, Charlotte doesn't need those things to be bad. It was bad by its own virtue, and had a terrible plot all around, with a pacing that barely made sense. You can argue that it didn't have much space to work with at only 1 cour, but Charlotte isn't an adaptation, and didn't need to cover X amount of volumes in Y episodes, and thus the number of useless episodes that were included for the didn't need to be included, and could have been better used towards developing the plot.
It had plenty of pleasant scenes and interactions, but in the end it fell apart. If it had more episodes, maybe they'd have more time to flesh out the plot and characters, or maybe they would just squander it.
>>136200900 >Even discounting the wasted potential I wish people would stop using this as an excuse. The entire show was built upon the promise (episode 12) ever since the announcement. It wasn't supposed to be about Yuu travelling or even have powerusers fight against scientists or whatever. Yes, it would've been nice but that was never their intention.
>had a terrible plot all around, with a pacing that barely made sense Like I said above, it was building up to one point. There wasn't really a "plot", it was just random events that happened just so they can develop the mc. Had they more episodes like they were "supposed" to get, maybe they could've gotten a better plot which would've fixed those issues you stated but since they didn't have that luxury they just had to throw everything in. What useless episodes do you speak of? In the end what you said still doesn't explain why this show gets so much hate than other shows which were far worse.
>>136201242 You mention a "promise", like I'm supposed to know what you meant. "That's not what it was supposed to be about" doesn't mean shit to a viewer. People come into a show, and build expectations—if the show completely disappoints those expectations, of course people are going to call it shit.
>>136201242 >It wasn't supposed to be about Yuu travelling or even have powerusers fight against scientists or whatever I think the root cause of all the show's problems was just a massive case of identity crisis. The latter half of the episodes had no goddamn idea what they wanted to be. It's like they had the premise "Highschoolers with superpowers", came up with 3 or 4 different possible plots, and some fucktard goes and says to throw all of them into a blender.
>>136201449 >People come into a show, and build expectations—if the show completely disappoints those expectations, of course people are going to call it shit. Well there's your problem right there. You built your own expectations without knowing who made it and learning about it's supposed to be about so of course you're going to be disappointed. You have no one else to blame but yourself. The show even hinted dozens of times of what was coming but got mad because it didn't go the way they wanted it to. That's like me saying K-on! is shit because it they didn't end up killing each other in the end.
>>136201510 Like I said before, it had something to build upon towards the end. Just the structure and shit pacing made it harder to figure out what they were trying to do. Like Angel Beats, it had no real plot, it's just random events that lead to a twist in the end. You should've known this would happen given key's history.
>>136201900 >You built your own expectations without knowing who made it and learning about it's supposed to be about Nigga what? You expect me to go out of my way to look up articles on what it's supposed to be about? Why couldn't they SHOW us what it's supposed to be about, instead of me having to go read secondary material about it?
People always bitch about adaptations having unexplained holes, but when it's pointed out that the source material explains it, the response is almost always "the adaptation should be able to stand on it own," or "we're talking about the adaptation; not the source".
A show can go ahead and throw in a twist to lead away from built up expectations, to surprise a viewer and such, but Charlotte simply didn't seem to know what it wanted to be—at least not from my perspective.
>>136202166 >You expect me to go out of my way to look up articles on what it's supposed to be about? Why couldn't they SHOW us what it's supposed to be about, instead of me having to go read secondary material about it? No, I don't. I expect people to read the fucking synopsis or at least look at the cover instead of watching a show without getting so much as a hint of what it's about. You should stop watching shows simply because someone tells you to.
>>136201242 >The entire show was built upon the promise (episode 12) ever since the announcement
What the fuck is this shit? So you tell me that they wasted a fuckton of episodes of highschoolers interacting with each other because they were eventually leading up to MC stealing powers?
This anon is right >>136201510 They had a huge identity crisis somewhere in the middle. Had they decided to follow just one path (i.e. highschoolers adapting to their powers/losing their powers OR MC stealing powers at the behest of his brother), then there wouldn't be any issues.
But of course, it's fucking Maeda, aka Mr. "let's put every possible plot thread we could come up with and come up with a meh conclusion", so I'm not at all surprised that Charlotte turned out to be bad.
>>136202543 >So you tell me that they wasted a fuckton of episodes of highschoolers interacting with each other because they were eventually leading up to MC stealing powers? Are you special or something? There's a thing called "character development". Had they went straight to the point, you would be crying like a baby, what the hell is this school about, who are these people, why do these kids have abilities, why is mc willing to risk his life, how the hell does the world work etc.
>Had they decided to follow just one path (i.e. highschoolers adapting to their powers/losing their powers OR MC stealing powers at the behest of his brother), then there wouldn't be any issues. I feel sorry for you if you actually think a one dimensional plot like that would be even remotely interesting, regardless of how bad the plot of Charlotte is right now.
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