>Fairy Tale land people invades into unknown territory
>Gets rekt by modern technology
>Japan decides to invade Fairy Tale land
>Absolutely slaughters everyone
Why was there no diplomacy? Surely there was no need to murder each other ESPECIALLY when you know nothing about each other.
>Why was there no diplomacy?
Same reason there is non in the middle east, you can make diplomicy with small clans and factions. However, toppling a government with corrupt people who control large bodies of military that are in do-or-die mode is hard as shit.
At the very least he should understand that all his forces were slaughtered.
I guess he's okay with it because they were vassals rather than direct subordinates, but it should still instill some level of martial respect for such a large army to be completely decimated so quickly.
I mean before they launched a full scale invasion and slaughtered tens of thousands of people.
Do the Japanese have that much of a hard on after they got nuked to shit?
Ok! But! There was absolutely NO attempt to even see what was in the other world. It was immediately "launch a full scale invasion". At least in the middle east we know who the fuck they are.
Tribes in the Amazon have tried to launch invasions on Brazilian towns, and you don't see the Brazilian government launching full scale invasions on these tribes.
It doesn't make sense. I know it's anime, but at least give Japan a real reason for this.
The poblem seems to be he wants to conquer both worlds. He make others send their troops just so he can have the strongest army and rule their world and belives later can invade japan because he is retarded af
Yeah it's almost like countries go bugfuck insane and invade places when civillians are caught up in a mass terror attack by foreign powers.
Let's face it, the only slightly shocking thing about this is that the people being invaded aren't brown.
Base on this logic, general MacArthur should have conducted operation Downfall, which would have killed a few millions of Nips instead of giving them a chance to surrender, huh? Even if they're all savages whose only language is violence, all you need to do is showing them your muscles and they will be obedient, no need to kill them all.
They posted a defensive zone outside of the gate with giant signs telling the other side to fuck off. That's about as friendly as you can get without having a constant security threat.
>before they launched a full scale invasion
I wouldn't call it that, after the initial defensive battle after passing through the gate, they haven't engaged the Empire in any further skirmishes.
If it was a full scale invasion they would have complete control over the zone by this point in the series.
>slaughtered tens of thousands of people.
To be fair, it was purely defensive. The enemy combatants slaughtered themselves by running into the gunfire and mortars.
>Base on this logic, general MacArthur
blah blah blah I ain't readin that shit. A army showed up in japan and started killing there dudes. They fought back. They went to the other side to defend the Gate and they sent another huge army that apparently can't read the warning signs. They defended themselves again.
Everything after that has been them trying to open up peace negotiations with the Empire. I'm not even sure why OP started with this dumb topic.
If a GATE opened in America, how long would it take until the capital had at least a dozen Starbucks, Panda Express, McDonalds, Gamestop, etc?
Since when is defending your land a war crime?
They treated all their POWs with the kindness and courtesies afforded to them according to international convention (even if it likely wouldn't apply), and conducted defensive warfare in an ethical way.
Also, why is the US President in Gate literally a younger version of Donald Trump and why is his cabinet speaking japanese
>all you need to do is showing them your muscles and they will be obedient,
Have you been watching the show? That's exactly what they're doing. They show up, make a base, kill everyone that attacks, and are now trying to get an unconditional surrender.
Aside from the initial invasion to set up their base, the SDF has only defended itself and people who have asked for help. They haven't gone on the offensive once after the initial beachhead. The king is just two dimensional evil who keeps trying to kill the japs.
Tribes in the Amazon have tried to launch invasions on Brazilian towns, and you don't see the Brazilian government launching full scale invasions on these tribes.
Because it is literally cave men versus people with non tactical experience. Gate they understand tactical warfare on a basic level
I think we skipped some steps this time. This much be the work of the Australians.
>After otherworlders went on a genocide
>they dindu nuffin, they gud boys
>sign says "We are all fantasy people"
>BLM says this is the proof white people are barbaric, we wuz dwagun peepol n sheit
>feminazis says it's white cis faults
the worst part of this show is how unrealistic the portrayal of America is. Im not even American and I laughed at how retarded the portrayal was. Show is the epitome of nationalism in media.
It really bothers me that they can just go back through the gate and resupply at any time. This is just 1632 with literally all of the drama removed. The reason this kind of story is good is because the limited supplies add that whole tension of wondering if this is the last battle they have ammo for.
If OP were in charge of America in 2001, we would have sent nice letters to Al Qaeda rather then getting in there, grabbing those bastards by the scruff of the neck and beating the shit out of them.
Realistically speaking who has the most powerful military in the world?
Because I'm pretty sure half of a single branch of the US military could absolutely destroy Japan.
>but anon nips don't have a traditional military
Well this show sure as hell makes it seem like they do.
Of course it is. The only really fucked up thing about Gate is Japan arbitrarily claiming the entire special region as part of their country so they could ignore the treaties preventing military operations in foreign territory.
So as someone completely ignorant to Japanese politics, are Japanese Prime Ministers complete fucking beta's that resign if they accidental fart on camera or say they don't like strawberry's, etc?
>I'm not even sure why OP started with this dumb topic
Because this novel itself is dumb.
>Muh the SDF has only defended itself and people who have asked for help
I don't know about you, but killing fucking 60 000 people sounds like over-exaggerated self defense to me. I refuse to believe some illiterate savages still have the ball continue marching after hearing thunder sound and the earth blowing up and burning right before their eyes. All those Nips need to do is firing warning shots using their artillery, maybe killing a few and the rest will flee crying their mom. No matter how you see it, killing 60 000 is unnecessary brutality.
Will they ever be able to have a military or is that just an "until further notice" kind of thing?
And say Japan went all "fuck you, I want a military", what happens then? Would we nuke them again? I can't see anything happening other than the UN throwing a temper tantrum
They'd have to amend it democratically. The current ruling government basically wants to. America is in favour of it because they'd rather throw willing nips at muslim extremists than hear all the bitching about American casualties.
They do tend to be remarkably thorough in killing damn near every enemy combatant that comes at them but to be fair they have no obligation to stop shooting just because they hope they scared them and culturally the enemy has no expectations of such quick diplomacy and will usually fight desperately to the death anyways. The enemy casualty numbers are insane because of the way ye' old armies work where they are so clustered together one artillery barrage kills thousands.
Also keep in mind these armies have ogres and dragons and shit for which the heavier firepower is not so overkill.
>The enemy combatants slaughtered themselves by running into the gunfire and mortars
So those medieval soldiers were either so brave or so stupid that they could still continue their attack despise seeing their comrades dying left and right in horrifying ways? Or the author is too stupid to understand how warfare works.
Let's be real, to those medieval people, just the sound of the canon is enough to make them scare shitless, let alone doing anything. Hell, right in this novel, when the earthquake happened, all of them believed the doomsday's come. You really think the impact from canons shelling wouldn't scare them to death?
You don't understand how medieval wars work? As soon as soldiers in one side think their defeat is inevitable, their formations breaks and they flee in chaos, those who surrender are unlucky faggots who aren't fast enough.
On the other hand, what sounds more terrifying to you? Being captured and executed later or being burning alive and blowing up to tiny pieces?
The guys marching up Alnus do seem kind of insanely committed but anime timescales are quite variable and there's dramatic effect involved, plus the guys actually in the middle of it can't necessarily tell just how absurdly they're getting their shit kicked immediately. I assume the initial intensity of the attack isn't so implausible to them compared to the fact they can keep it up seemingly indefinitely.
Ignoring that they did take a bunch of prisoners the fuckers at Italica had the excuse that they were all suicidal fuckwits anyways.
>It really bothers me that they can just go back through the gate and resupply at any time. This is just 1632 with literally all of the drama removed. The reason this kind of story is good is because the limited supplies add that whole tension of wondering if this is the last battle they have ammo for.
You are confusing the point of GATE. This is not about having a fair fight between science and magic. This is about how to maintain civility against an opponent who is completely alien to Earth rule of engagement and doesn't understand what a peace treaty is for.
World's most skilled army
World's second largest air force
World's largest navy
World's most deployable Marine force.
With a fraction of our power, say 1 Marine, we can take Beijing, cut off the head of the snake and liberate China overnight while we kick Moscow's doors in with the 101st.
Every fight is our fight.
Every fight we will win.
Because we fight to preserve and advance the cause of Freedom here and elsewhere.
All the more reason to vote Republican election.
No more Democrap appeasement.
It's time to double, triple, QUADRUPLE military spending and increase the military presence in Asia, Europe and the Middle East.
they could just do what the US does
keep passing laws that add giant exceptions to the scope of the constitution, so they can act in violation of it and still be abiding by the constitution.
The fact was that the Coalition Army attacked at night and there is pretty much no way to peacefully warn off 100'000 professional soldiers and monsters especially when you don't speak their language.
The Coalition Army had no idea why they were getting blown up, which was why they kept pressing the attack. JSDF had no choice but to kill them all because it's the only thing that could keep them from dying.
>The Coalition Army had no idea why they were getting blown up, which was why they kept pressing the attack
So the Gate people are actually aliens with different psyche incomprehensible to earthlings? Because the normal reaction of seeing people suddenly blowing up is to be scared and retreat while screaming.
And close yourself off to a new, unexplored land with various countries you can deal/extort/conquer for more materials? Close off a world filled with beast folk, magic and sorcery that may or may not be usable back here?
Are you fucking stupid?
They have magic and dragons and immortal lolis and shit, their dudes would be somewhat more hardened to some of this stuff than our medieval guys.
The strongest things in the special region (eg. Rory, Enryu) are far stronger than a regular JSDF soldier, what makes the Japanese terrifying is that the fighting strength of even their lowliest grunts. There's a scene in the last episode where one of the imperial nobility gets a rifle demonstration and he's pretty impressed but it's when he asks how many rifles they have and is told that every soldier has one he shits his pants.
>They have magic and dragons and immortal lolis and shit, their dudes would be somewhat more hardened to some of this stuff than our medieval guys.
It doesn't mean they're immune to their horror. Nuke is common knowledge on Earth, but that doesn't mean you won't say your prayer when you actually witness one by yourself. If anything, fire-breathing the dragon is one of their worst nightmare, it wouldn't surprise me if bunch of them mistook artillery for dragon flame and died on spot due to heart attack.
Medieval command structure of armies is very easy to be broken by fear. Ten of thousands of soldiers running for their life despite what their commanders said is a common thing these times. And in this case, the commanders were probably those who run first.
The romans killed a lot of people and kidnapped japanese women back before the JDF managed to respond to the attack and rolled in. They proceeded to annihilate the shit out of the foreign invaders, pushed through back through the gate and established their beachhead on the other side.
Then they began being diplomatic. Following mass annihilation events were done to further implementing diplomacy through superior firepower. Pina Co Lada got a display of just how easy it is to suppress a savage warband of death cultists with a few flying metal birds armed with boom-sticks.
>Why was there no diplomacy? Surely there was no need to murder each other ESPECIALLY when you know nothing about each other.
To be fair... japan in this series always prefer diplomacy. But it was those fairy tale ancient romen idiots who attacked first both times they got rekt.
Generally they tend to think they're mages, which can presumably be successfully bumrushed given their rarity and 10:1 overall force size advantage. Problem is the JSDF are all "mages" with casting time hax and hand to hand fighting skills.
considering the number that died compared to how many participated, i think they figured it out well enough (something like more than half of the 100,000).
As for how willing they were to continue the fighting..... we are talking about the big guys who went and conquered all in their way (like the warrior bunny tribes) and are ipso facto the big dogs of their world
It's not the prime minister, it's the whole system.
After losing WW2, any military movement inside japan are tightly controlled and they also have obligation to report it to public.
Watched the first 13 episodes this morning. Love it so far. First couple episodes reminded me of the Earth-Minbari War from Babylon 5 so I was pretty much hooked instantly.
>Rory getting turned on and moaning when battle and death starts
>Rory trying to get Itami to fuck her good
>Prince asshole rough fucking rabbit girl
>As for how willing they were to continue the fighting..... we are talking about the big guys who went and conquered all in their way (like the warrior bunny tribes) and are ipso facto the big dogs of their world
Also don't forget, in their own experience you only request a peace treaty if you couldn't win. And since the JSDF keep demanding a peace treaty, it must mean, by their own logic, that the JSDF must have some critical weakness and could be defeated.
What the Empire didn't realise, is that the JSDF has no intention of dealing with a destroyed Empire and the civil war that results. And thus they only wanted a treaty because they wanted the Empire to survive. This is just beyond their cultural understanding of how wars are suppose to work.
We only lost because it was unpopular at home. Give us a war that's supported by the American people and we'll plow through our enemies overnight.
The first Iraq war in 1992, Iraq was spending 40% of its yearly budget on military, the whole world thought they would give us trouble, and we obliterated them overnight.
I understand I'm older than most of /a/ so I remember those days but we haven't been bogged down in another Vietnam since, well, since Vietnam
i think they better of with japan
-the us would nuke the new world because there are no treaty to that place
-Russia would invade-t all the other worold and started to mine resources china would done the shame ting
Look at their guro art and you will see how degenerate they are, plenty of people being tied to trees to test frostbite and babies flung on bayonets if Japan ever wages war again.
American forces aren't that well suited to jungle warfare, which is what you will wade through when fighting in tropical countries. Armored divisions are useful only in limited areas, air cover is nullified by dense canopies, and even high-tech equipment gets bogged down by thick foliage and the horrendous conditions of a tropical jungle, not to mention the convenient pre-existing cave networks that serve as excellent bases and tunnel systems.
Though, with American forces training in their tropical allies like the Philippines, the effect could be not as severe.
>you can make diplomicy with small clans and factions
Spotted the amerifat
You deal with governments, but no you and the eurocucks had to do the"arab spring" and fuck up everything
I want to like Yao but she feels really superfluous most of the time. Like, she's not doing much of anything, she doesn't really interact much with other characters, she doesn't really contribute much to anyone's character development and she has very little of her own, so it's just kind of hard to give a shit about her even though I want to.
>in a country where you can get your life destroyed for calling black people black or calling a bitch bitch
Now that you say it it seems that magic is able to be used in our worl
Why there is no people from nip land trying to use it or at least understand? lelei can and she's human and even stated she used modern knowledge to improve her magic
Nigga that is some fucking potential right there
One thing you forget, the sound and impact when artillery shelling must feel like thunder of doomsday to them, the commanders and the whole army could clearly see and feel them from miles away. Those "big guys" can conquer and slaughters savage the whole life, but I doubt they can retain their sanity before that scene.
Did you watch the part when the cripple king telling Pina about his battle with the JSDF? He lost the will to fight immediately after witnessing the power of modern weapons. They couldn't just brush it off when every second dozens of them collapsing or being blowing up for apparently no reason at all, their will would be broken right away. No mage in their world could achieve such feat, and even if they insist it's a mage, they had to believed he's an ancient mage who wielded unimaginable power, enough to kill them all.
>So those medieval soldiers were either so brave or so stupid that they could still continue their attack despise seeing their comrades dying left and right in horrifying ways?
You have a point. I suppose if the japanese only killed those who entered the restricted zone when they entered it, it would make those behind less inclined to also do so.
It's entertaining to see how even the most grand concepts which were executed well in manga get turned into nothing but toned down for the masses moe shit once they arrive at the anime industry.
It's even more entertaining to see anime only watchers try to interpret meaning into all this shit that derails from any point that could have been considered to be made.
Today being a moefag is being a normalfag. Like mlp and furries creeping around like cockroaches shitting up places wherever they go.
>-Russia would invade-t all the other worold and started to mine resources china would done the shame ting
Kinda like Japan is doing in the mango?
I mean everyone would try to exploit the world beyond the GATE like this
>So as someone completely ignorant to Japanese politics, are Japanese Prime Ministers complete fucking beta's that resign if they accidental fart on camera or say they don't like strawberry's, etc?
The prime minster isn't really the ruler of Japan, his Party is, he is just the fall guy. This applies with several other Asian nations too. In that the PM would take the fall and resign in order to protect the political party.
Yeah this is one thing I really don't understand. The existence of magic has been completely glossed over even though it would be like the complete top priority if we found it IRL.
>Yeah this is one thing I really don't understand. The existence of magic has been completely glossed over even though it would be like the complete top priority if we found it IRL.
Well currently it isn't the priority. Magic plays only a very small role in the Empire's daily lives because so few people are capable of casting spells. It is suspected that the affinity is genetic. And the Empire basically gave up hiring mages for battles because men with swords are more effective for the cost.
>The real question is why the king is such a god damn moron
the writer dumb have to down the bad guys in this anime and they are kinda an unreasonable dick
only glorious nipponese people have superior moral and intellectual virtues
If that kind of beta faggot is the POTUS, America will have to suffer for the rest of his term, since the US is a presidential republic, not a parliamentary one like Japan, where the PM can be vote out anytime the ruling party thinks necessary.
You really don't understand the concept behind war do you?
When a enemy army suddenly and without provocation attacks your homeland you respond with overwhelming force as a first response. The reason why you do so is to discourage further attacks.
Also if you truly watched the first 5 episodes you'll see that the Empire continued to attack the area where the SDF was simply sitting and waiting for the enemy to attack. The Empire repeatedly ran right into a kill zone even though they knew the SDF had superior firepower. The SDF never moved forward and initiated a attack on the empire.
>So those medieval soldiers were either so brave or so stupid that they could still continue their attack despise seeing their comrades dying left and right in horrifying ways?
You may want to take a look at WW1 and see what happend at Somme. You would have thought they would have stopped, but nope.
The Gate world's Earth doesn't seem that different from ours though. Since everything is the same, I think it's safe to assume they also have a Peaceful Constitution and an Article 9 in it.
This director is a hack fucking fraud and I'm about to drop it if the next episode has 20 splitscreen cuts like the last one.
>Soldiers at that time were already familiar with firearms, we're saying about oxymorons who thought an earthquake was the sign of the end of days here.
The implication is that the Gate Gods are actively preventing major Natural Disasters. So things like deadly Earthquakes just don't happen.
Why did it happen NOW? That is plot related.
>Why was there no diplomacy?
Are we watching the same show?
>To be fair, in a more realistic setting, there will be a hug uproar, but in the end no one will buy the "Special Zone is part of Japan" bullshit they spouts.
You missed the hints.
1. Japan just had a "9/11" moment, and as such both its citizens and the international community were willing to cut the nation some slack.
2. The population AND both major political parties are in agreement that Article 9 needed to be repealed. However doing so takes too long, so in the mean time they created what is called "legal fiction" to allow the JSDF to be deployed faster.
Basically the courts, the politicians AND the voters all agreed to turn a blind eye to the fact that the JSDF is being deployed against the Article 9 rules. And this was only possible because there was political unity and the opposition party did not challenge it.
Article 9 would be repealed eventially, after which the legal fiction would no longer be needed. It is basically a temporary measure.
If it were real the US and the Japs would have gone in together. They are still under the US nuclear umbrella and no special zone is worth conflict with the rest of the world.
The US world supply the resources and both counties would benefit. Why go it alone when you have the US to do the dirty work and you can benefit economically
>If it were real the US and the Japs would have gone in together.
Japan didn't invite the US so the US did not go. This is the Japanese fight, I have no idea why you want so badly for the Americans to force themselves into someone else's war when they are not even invited.
I don't want to rape them. I want to marry one and live to old age till I die.
You know, that makes me wonder, would the laws of marriage be different between long lived species like elves? I mean, the legal documents might have to be revised.
Because the US and Japan are allies with a mutual defense treaty. The moment a foreign force invades Japan, the US will have to step in no matter what. It's not "someone else's war" when the US is basically Japan's protector.
>the US will have to step in no matter what.
Even when Japan refused the help? So America would have to invade Japan?
>It's not "someone else's war" when the US is basically Japan's protector.
Gee, how nice of you for "protecting me" by breaking down my down and holding me down at gun point!
You are insane. You are just trying to justify invasion of Japan by America because you are retarded.
>Could the world let this happen? At least China and Korea will never allow it.
Why? It is a JANESE law. Why the HELL do you think China or Korea would have anything to do with changes to Japanese laws? Are you so retarded as to think Article 9 is some international rule? It isn't. It was a law put in place by the Japanese, and it could be removed by the Japanese.
Unless you think Japan can control Korean or Chinese laws?
That's what the UN and the Security Council for, they will pass some resolutions against Japan if they try to mess with the Constitution. The world cannot allow Japan to be belligerent against, unless their sole enemy is China.
>That's what the UN and the Security Council for, they will pass some resolutions against Japan if they try to mess with the Constitution. The world cannot allow Japan to be belligerent against, unless their sole enemy is China.
So you are saying if Japan decided to allow themselves to defend from invasion, that the UN would invade Japan in retaliation? How silly.
>Establishing a beachhead in enemy territory is an invasion not defense
Except you would have to slaughter the JSDF soldiers defending Tokyo. Because you are sending a military force into the Capital of Japan against the wishes of the government. Thus you are an invader and had to murder the defending JSDF to get to the GATE.
Did you forget Japanese promised to forsake their rights to use violence to solve any international problems FOREVER in their Constitution? What would happen if they violate that promise? How can we still trust them? Who knows if they want to attack the US again? Descendants of those who died at the Pearl Harbor and in WW2 won't be happy about this.
>Did you forget Japanese promised to forsake their rights to use violence to solve any international problems FOREVER in their Constitution?
And that Constitution is an internal law. And could be repealed like any other law. Americans have nothing to do with it.
Actually, Japan's guro art is a result of their stressful lives brought by their unforgiving society. They rub themselves to fuck up shit in order to control their bottled emotions
Now look at their anime, music, and television shows. It is all filled with feminine traits because they wanted to relax by watching scenes that are almost barren of masculinity
The old Japan died after WW2.
It's bad writing but saying the deathtoll of 2 nations, one modern the other ancient Roman tech with magic then the less tech. advanced will be demolished. When people come at you in a fire zone without warning and try to kill you you shoot . had writing is the fact that after the Japanese showed their hand nobles still attacked. Remember japs also took prisoners for bargaining.
The minute the SDF established a base on the other side of the gate they became an occupying army. They could have sealed and defended the gate from Japan. They chose to invade and we know what happened the last time they decided to go invading
America has something to do with it, for it's American's who helped Japanese to write that Constitution and as Japan's benefactor and protector.
They did try the last time despise instinctively knowing they couldn't win.
Japan had spent a few months sending scouts and spies through the gate, which allowed them to partially learn a local language, among other things. And yet they chose to invade anyway.
It was a sensible thing to do. The Japanese knew there was an actor able to make these gates, and at least one actor willing to send an invading army through them without warning or without knowledge of what's on the other side. They did not know who these actors were, and had no way to contact them.
For all they knew, these gates could start popping up and spewing invading monsters all over Japan and the world at any given moment. The low-profile scouting and diplomacy needed to get to the actors and find out the truth could have taken years and years.
Compared to that, sending an expeditionary force not only secures that one gate and deters further invasion, but also speeds up and simplifies the development of diplomacy by attracting the attention of the gate builders and gate invaders, and making a clear show of your power so as to avoid misunderstandings.
>ever barren of masculinity
Their most famous mascot is a guy wearing his underwear outside. Or another guy in a latex colored with the Puerto Rico flag.
Even in terms of horror story, the west fears werewolves, Frankenstein, and zombies who kill by ruthless slaughter.
Japan on the otherhand have YuukiOnna, Fox girls, and Sadako, who kill in an elegant and playful manner
I forgot to mention this guy.
The only person that comes close to the homoness is Goku. And Goku actually wears a shirt and had a family
>Japan had spent a few months sending scouts and spies through the gate
Pretty sure they didn't.
Episode 1 alone showed that they sent out tanks right at once at met a force of orcs and soldiers immediately.
Something that makes sense as before sending an invading force, you had to make camp near the gate
The anime establishes the scouts and language guides but they would be unable to do that without safev transit and control of the gate.
I was hoping this anime would feature more jsdf operators realistic situations and less stock anime tropes but that would have been a little far fetched
better question is how the medieval soldiers aren't getting wise when legions of them are getting gunned down day after day.
Somewhere along the chain of command someone has to be like 'nah senpai, nah'
Masculinity, by definition, refers to aggressive but logical, behaviors. Whereas femininity refers to passive and emotional personality
The west barely has any female superheros with feminine traits. All of them are either raging bulldykes like Wonder Woman/ Supergirl.
Or spicy bitches like Catwoman and Black Widow.
Meanwhile, Japan's most masculine person are the beta harem MC's that any loli with commonsense can manhandle
But when it comes to porn....the table turns
It's just shitty jap propaganda. Only watch for the cute elf and mage girls.
>The west barely has any female superheros with feminine traits
That was the point, moron. They aren't masculine, they're just dick envious. They aren't logical characters at all.
Again, you keep pointing back to 20th century icons. Talk about shit like what's big with normalfags right now, that aren't leftovers from the 20th, and tell me there's anything masculine.
bet the lord isn't a flying metal machine that fires projectiles that shred through armor and flesh of entire armies in seconds.
Or a giant metal container that fires explosions.
Or just a regular guy with a weapon that penetrates armor from dozens of meters away.
Well, what's big in the west right now?
As far as I can see, they are rubbing themselves to the future Batman vs Superman movie or something Marvel.
It does not matter when it was first released. The fact that it still exists tell that it is still "in" and therefore a part of the trends of the western youth
The lord has access to documents about your family and can blackmail you from ever landing a job or getting your agriculture sold.
I'd still choose to run away though. As if the lord does this, there's a chance that he will end up igniting a rebellion.
War boil scum blood, but rape will not happen if soldiers will have normal sex. Only scum xenophobs will rape. In Gate everything is pretty peaceful. You can just pick up elf chicks and start night crawling
>America has something to do with it, for it's American's who helped Japanese to write that Constitution and as Japan's benefactor and protector.
You stop being a benefactor or protector when you began military invasion of Tokyo.
Seriously, I was thinking you were a troll but now I think you really are just a retard. Being a "benefactor" and "protector" requires that the United States NOT send its troops into Japanese terriototy against the will of the Japanese government. Any less is outright military invasion and you are no longer a benefactor OR protector. Do you think that title last forever and ever no matter what you do? It all ends the second you invade, all treaties become invalid when you are no longer allies. Invasion of Tokyo by American troops = all friendly treaties are cancelled.
Didn't they take those prisoners during fantasyland's first initial invasion attempt? It seems pretty reasonable to take prisoners instead of, you know, executing them or letting soldiers that slaughtered you people go free.
>I refuse to believe some illiterate savages still have the ball continue marching after hearing thunder sound and the earth blowing
Maybe they promise 100 virgins in the afterlife to every soldier
the only reason why North Korea has been allowed to exist is because China backs them and would likely fight the US if they were to just attack it.
If NK were ever stupid enough to attack, everyone expects China to not interfere. Should that happen, they'd be wiped off the map.
North Korea is being protected by China. Its not like doing something to NK would mean war with China, they're as fed up with them as we are, it would just give China something to leverage against us other than their stake in our national debt.
He's not a moron, he's addicted to power. Power is literally a drug, you get a similar high from it than you do from shit like heroine.
Seriously tho, if you can decide between the life and death of people, it feels good to do it. Really good. And he's doing that.
Couldn't said it any better brother.
We need more fantasy races in jeans
IRL Japan would not have refused America's help.
This series it's plain ol' JSDF propaganda made by an anti-american nationalist.
If this was real life the Japanese goverment would be working side by side with the Americans. America would be supplying arms and resources to help their ally.
America would be supporting Japan 100% because they are an strategic ally.
But America would also want a piece of fairy land.
I was the first two bro and besides that's not samefagging. Samefagging is acting as two different persons.
Anyway my problem with Gate is how unrealistic and shamelessly it is. It's mindless propaganda made by a nutjob.
What would have happened if the GATE is in your country?
>either china(by going to the place where the gate is then claims that their ancestors discover it first and they even have a map of it as a proof) or america has the large part of the gate since flipland sucks america's dick hard.
>Japan is not an "ally", it's a puppet state. If they started getting uppity like in GATE, USA would wreck them.
Now I KNOW you are trolling. You shouldn't make it so obvious. Good day.
>you thought that the government was there to serve you
Once upon a time, it was. That's why I give no shits about the japs showing America in a bad light. It doesn't reflect me as an aAmerican in any way, just my shit-tier government.
It never was. Back in the day you didn't have the Internet to access information which meant the illusion of government benevolence was kept intact through propaganda. Most of that propaganda is part of public curriculum, and very few people actually bother to research history in sufficient depth to ascertain what is a lie and what is potentially true - in history, there is no certainty.
America is not at all inaccurately portrayed in GATE, working in the shadows rather than strong-arming opposition is standard procedure for modern USA. Although they did that back in the WW2 days too. Despite being irredeemably evil, they still have public opinion to deal with.
This writer is completely full of shit. He disregards the Mutual Defense Treaty and decides that foreign land opened by a gate is Japanese territory. So then he lets his little army invade and rape a sovereign country without trying to open up any negotiations towards peace. He denies any kind of support from other countries and makes the US, one of the countries that signed the MDT, one of the antagonists. This is coming from an author who believes in reinterpreting article 9 of the Japanese Constitution so that Japan can freely declare war on other countries that it regards as enemies. And in the end Japan gets all of the bitches and the rights to rule over its new territory. This story is far worse than Stargate.
Japan didn't declare war on the guys who came out of the gate. They invaded. I dunno about you, but typically getting invaded by someone means that a state of war de facto exist. Whether there is a formal declaration of war or not really doesn't matter.
Governments are not known to honor treaties with any dilligence anyway. In WWII, every major power violated at least 1 treaty. Germany in particular violated a huge list of them.
As for the Japanese constitution, it's just a piece of paper.
How has nobody pointed out, in this entire thread, that the Emperor basically ordered those vassals to commit suicide by attacking Alnus Hill because he suspected them of secretly planning to overthrow his reign, and he wanted to cripple the outlying territories by forcing those territories to fight a battle against an unknown invading force while he consolidated resources in the capitol to strengthen his grip on the Empire?
The main problem with Gate is that it antagonizes America for no reason. Keep in mind that Japan needs America more than America needs Japan. Japan is pretty much surrounded by enemies and if it wasn't for America's support they would be rekt by them.
Because just because you think that they are planning to overthrow you does not justify the stupidity that you literally crippled your own territory by getting rid of the experienced leaders who actually know how to read and write
There's no damage control here. He is just insane to the point that he thinks that he can manage the giant territory all by himself
No matter how much he smiles, he still lost
That's fucking stupid. They could have started shelling the areas in the enemy army's path. The armies wouldn't approach any further for fear of death, eventually they would give up and leave. If they don't give up and instead try to entrench then you use aerial reconnaissance to find out where their commanders are and wipe them out however you see fit. After that the army will enter a state of chaos and disband naturally.
Would a few hundred die in the process? Maybe, but it wouldn't be hundreds of thousands.
It's not for no reason. The Japanese have plenty to be butthurt about. USA continues to occupy their shit to this day. Okinawa has real problems with the US presence there.
Also, most of said enemies are competing with USA, Japan is in their sights through the virtue of being occupied by USA and some minor territorial disputes regarding islands.
>They could have started shelling the areas in the enemy army's path
They did. They wont be shot by bullets if they retreated at mortar distance
> aerial reconnaissance
Not possible as they have yet to establish an airfield
>Emperor of an Empire
>Have no fucks growing in the fuck fields to give to any of his citizens.
I'm not saying what he did was smart. Quite the opposite. I'm saying he had a personal justification for doing what he did. Yes, he really thinks he can become the God-Emperor. No, he obviously never, ever will, and yes, I will enjoy watching his empire come tumblingdowntumblingdowntumblingdaaa-oooooown.
Honestly, this entire thread was just bait. Any OP that's dumb enough to claim that Gate has no diplomatic elements is just stirring up shit.
>Would a few hundred die in the process? Maybe, but it wouldn't be hundreds of thousands.
You know that the allied armies attacked 2 times, right? They got their shit pushed in the first time, saw it happen, then went for another go with predictable results. So apparently getting shelled and killed wasn't enough to deter them. It would be reasonable to expect that getting shelled alone wouldn't either. Hell, the second time they were taking hits and continued to charge forward.
These people are obviously dealing with something they cannot understand even at a basic level. They don't know to fear it.
Not the anon you replied to, but to counterpoint your argument about 'not knowing to fear it', Episode 13's scenes with the Senators may be referenced to debunk your theory of 'not knowing to fear it'. The Senators all basically started having massive panic attacks after witnessing the mortar. Literally started LSD tripping horrorshow montages of their cities being blown to ruins.
I will admit that however, that due to being intellectuals, they were probably more mentally equipped to put "1+1 bomb = lost this war" than the rank and file soldiers, who are likely trained to resist giving into fear, given the inherently chaotic nature of medieval clashes of armies.
Those senators aren't warriors and are both self serving and intelligent.
Another person who feared the weapons that SDF brought, was Pina Co Lada, but she's also highly intelligent and not an experienced warrior. In fact, she's kind of a pretend warrior really.
Not following orders is also considered desertion in the military and deserters are shot(or stabbed) by their own people. This is probably less prevalent in modern armies, but in WWII and earlier it was a choice between dying at the hands of the enemy or dying at the hands of your friends if you disobeyed orders. So even if you're smart enough to fear what is happening, you're also smart enough to ignore it for you know what will happen if you don't.
>It's mindless propaganda made by a nutjob.
So is any media that says or depicts anything even remotely positive about Murka rather than mercilessly shitting all over it throughout the entirety of its duration. What's your point?
I hate myself. Every time I think of a cool idea in my head and just dismiss it, it becomes a real thing. I should do shit more often
I´m sorry for having to play unit 734 card in a GATE thread again, but the clinic JSDF has opened in the red light district is conducting illegal medical research on native population. (selling contraceptives and researching STD:s) They are a military unit operating in secrecy, without the red cross symbol, This is illegal as shit.
Also their massacre of the gang cannot be argued as self defense, or military action because those thughs are not members of imperial military. They were civilians.
The author is trying to paint actual warcrimes against a civilian population as a good thing. This is kinda heavy even for Japan.
If people choose to live under a dictator then that is their choice. The small scale revolts are not an indication that the people will it to be any other way.
Food for thought: When a small group of radicals pop up in a country on the opposite side of the world we crusade to topple the government they are fighting. Yet there is precedent that if a state or group of states were to try to revolt against the US Government they would be stopped with military force. Such a tasty double standard.
People don't choose to live under repressive regimes, they're repressed into doing so by many methods including force.
We as in the US intervene when a "small scale" revolt spirals into violence against not only the offenders but wide swaths of the population. We as in the US use these opportunities to get rid of unfriendly regimes, and it's just politics.
I don't understand why you brought up the US civil war as though that somehow has any relevance to a debate about dictatorships
You're just all over the place trying to sound smart with your moral relativistic arguments but in truth you're just a fucking dummy and should refrain from further touching on subjects you clearly have no knowledge of
>a civil war I don't like is nothing like a civil war I do
>calls me out on moral relativism
I give you 2 keks, apply yourself.
All great change must start within, we can't force 'freedom' on people who don't possess the will to do what is neccessary for it to come about and be maintained.
Though increasingly I can understand their rejection of our 'rule of mass idiots and sociopaths' style freedom.
You're all a bunch of retards you know that? Look at this thread.
To be honest the idea of having a magic gate open in a city is great but the implementation by the author of GATE leaves much to be desired. It could have been a great tale between modern reality vs a Magical Empire. Instead it's some nationalist's fap material about his country being #1 and others being 0.
You're clearly to stupid to realise they probably didn't have time to understand what was happening. Modern artillery is extremely fast firing, along with this and modern small arms, those causualties probably happened in the first 5 minutes. Besides, they're used to dragons and orgres and magic. How did they know this wasn't just some terrible new form of magic? Also in the comic the JSDF waited until they were in small arms range, and were also shown using rapid fire 40 mm bofors anti aircraft weapons. Those things alone would have reaped a terrible toll in minutes by themselves. Add in artillary, mortars, GMPG's and HMG's and the tanks, and seriously, that battle couldn't have taken more than 30 minutes, tops
Shock and awe, baby.
The attacks were deliberately set to "whites of eyes" to deal maximum damage and end the conflict quickly. Strangely enough despite having armies of dragons, orcs and goblins and shit, not a single magic caster showed up.
Just be more real and level headed about it.
Imagine if instead of being in Japan the gate was opened in America and the story was done by an American writer?
You wouldn't have as much US Armed forces wankery than Gate has. I mean you would probably even have antagonists from all sides. Instead Gate makes it as if JSDF does no wrong and everyone else are evil.
> American GATE
Gee anon I don't know let me check the
Stargate SG-1 you ding dong
Yea, elves and 961 year old demigods are super real and level headed. As are woman warriors and 15 year old magicians.
Never mind that fire dragon which can't be penetrated by .50 cal FREEDOM.
Also, ever watched that movie. What's it called. The one with Groot and that furry guy? That was literally government propaganda. Eg the government is benevolent and the most qualified to handle dangerous things is the message it tried to get across.
Pretty sure Japan didn't make that one.
I think Japan is best served by portraying themselves as the good guy. They really don't want to end up hating themselves like the Germans or Swedes.
> Stargate SG-1
> International cooperation to send team through the stargate
> Bongs, Slavs, and even Chinese send their own stargate team through.
> first spaceship was cofunded by all members of the security council
> The Americans spend a bunch of their own money, but cooperate with the other nations rather than try to cockblock them.
Yea, and that's on that side of the Gate, what's on this side? Oh wait it's earth and not a parallel universe where Japan won WW2 and is the foremost military power of the world.
These are two completely different cases.
To each and every terrorist, it's their religious duty to kill all infidels they can find and subdue the whole world to the will of their god. If they fulfill their duties, they will be rewarded in heaven and live a luxury life with 72 eternal virgins serving them, but should they fail, they will be damned in hell forever. That's why they have no fear of death, because they will automatically be send to heaven fighting us and there're punishment far horrifying than death if they don't fight.
But those Gate soldiers just obey their lord for their life. The threat of death is more than enough to scare them. And those lords themselves are even more spineless anyway.
>Imagine if instead of being in Japan the gate was opened in America and the story was done by an American writer?
It would literally be an american version of gate which is the propaganda you hate, go watch stargate or pacific rim, they're essentially the same. Their also american novels of something similar and they are just as bad, remember reading this webnovel about how a portal opened in middle east and demons came out of it, steamrolling everything on their way, MC survived who was a member of US Special Forces tries to go back to human civilization, magically he manage to go back and then he became a fucking demon hunter with all his knowledge.
The first missions were very burgerland oriented. There was definitely an arc about keeping the Russians locked out until they made a mess trying to start their own program. But yeah they warmed up later on.
Japan isn't the foremost military power of the world in GATE.
They are fighting literal peasants with spears using an under funded but mostly modern military. Do you honestly think that Japanese army consists of 1 Humvee and 5 NEETs or something in real life?
They only sent like 10k troops beyond the gate, which is rather small percentage of their actual army. The equipment they use is the standard shit they use in real life. They got plenty of that crap, specially the light infantry equipment like the trucks.
The only thing that might raise eyebrows is that part where Japanese SF schooled US agents in the onsen ep. But that was a clusterfuck in general.
>As for the Japanese constitution, it's just a piece of paper.
Pro tip: That "piece of paper" is the only thing keeping Japan from being occupied by foreign forces for eternity to make sure they will never try to conquer the world again. It's basically an oath, they keep it and the world believe they want piece, otherwise, it means war.
I mean, their special forces are better equipped and better trained than SAD/SOG, Spetsnaz GRU, and PLA-SOF, soo...
Considering that Japan doesn't even think the logistical muscle of the USA is even needed for anything.
If it wasn't written by an ultranationalist, Japan would have courted as many nations as possible, it would have been a diplomacy coup of unimaginable proportions, instead Japan is choosing to isolate itself and piss off the power that's preventing the chinese from rolling them over, as well as giving the chinese a reason to roll them.
With more backing, the combined forces could have done infinitely more than the pissy effort that the JSDF is doing. Satellites in orbit, population and terrain mapping, airstrips, communications, intensive language and diplomatic efforts, actually doing things rather than watch the indigenous population kill each other off as things go to shit thanks to the disruptive presence of terrans.
>questioning anything from Gate
nigga It just japanese self-wanking
If a dummy thing like the premise of this show EVER happened, America would fucking close off the area to everyone - Japan included. Imagine Guantamo in the middle of Tokyo. Let the japs enjoy their masturbatory nationalist fanfics.
Do you think Japan is run by retards or something?
You're describing a course of action that would not only be humiliating but also not beneficial to the Japanese government. They are literally sitting on a potential gold mine of unprecedented proportions in the form of that gate, and here you are telling that the realistic course of action is for them to act against their self-interest and call other people to plunder it?
The only time Japan would consider courting other nations to join them would be if they were literally threatened and told that if they didn't, bad things were going to happen. Or if they screwed the pooch hard and started losing. Even then, it would not be 100%.
Tell you what, your idea is incredibly unrealistic. I don't know what kind of reality distortion bubble you've been living your entire life in, but it's not the real world. In real world, the Japanese government is not incompetent to that degree.
Not that anon, but did you forget the earthquake? The whole capital, including all soldiers and commanders cried like little girls just by feeling the impact. And it's just a minor one. Artillery and mortars would definitely make them think the judgement day has come. It's humans' nature to fear the unknown, not to immune to them. Being stabbed by your own people sound terrible, but it's nothing compared to being burned to crisp and smashed to tiny pieces. And it's doesn't really matter if the whole army flees from the incomprehensible horror. Before you give me any example about how tenacious armies in history were, remember they at least knew what they're fighting against, you think any modern army still has the will to fight if aliens with super tech that can effortlessly kill millions and totally immune to our weaponry invade earth?
Let's get real, 60000 deaths is either the author's bad-writing or the result of his viciousness toward white people, or both.
>Any OP that's dumb enough to claim that Gate has no diplomatic elements is just stirring up shit
Ok, Gate indeed has diplomat, but it's dumb and unreal diplomat due to the author's ignorance.
>warcrimes against a civilian population
I never understood this.
What's the point of conquering a territory by killing only the soldiers?
Civiliands need to learn a lesson as well.
Maybe he's just over estimating how badass whites are? I mean, it looks like violence and death is normal in the world beyond the GATE, they also have supernatural magic and fucking dragons flying around. It is possible that huge fireballs aren't completely unheard of.
If you were talking about people straight out of ancient society with no supernatural shit going on, then sure the reaction to mortars and shit is a little understated to say the least.
I think the author has his justification, in a few last decades, the Japanese government has been tirelessly trying their best to rewrite history and make their student believe they committed no war crime in WW2, or even make them believe war crimes they committed weren't war crimes at all, but something normal and acceptable. This author sounds like a far-right nationalist so no wonder he bought all their shits to the point of trying to portray war crimes in a good light.
Wright is Canadian, and the filming was in Canada. So it's a Canadian GATE where America goes through.
There's also the NID/Trust arcs, which have corporate/political America straight-up sabotaging the program for profit. And you have Russia etc. calling America's bluff when they claim to have no problems in the program.
And if you're comparing GATE and SG1, SG1 wins by a landslide for having strict quarantine procedures for returning personnel, probes which gather scientific data before sending personnel through, keeping most personnel home-side in case the portal closes, etc. There's way more consideration of what could go wrong when sending people to an arbitrary world.
You miss the point that even though magic exists in Gate world, it's very rare for their citizens there to witness powerful magic. The fireball only their most talent archmages can create inflicts less damage than a grenade and they thought a flying lizard is totally unbeatable.
And one thing you guys refuse to explain, a minor earthquake is enough to make them think the end of days has come, how the hell they keep their sanity before artillery and mortar? It makes no sense.
Do you know what happens to resource-rich countries with joke armed forces who try to say "this is all mine, hands off" to superpowers?
Japan also has zero extraction expertise and not enough capital to fund extraction programs. Who are the people that do? Chinese, Americans, Russians, and Aussies. Japan would make far more with processing and royalties while letting other people do the extracting.
Could be religious. Earthquake could be associated with end times in their religion. Human response to events is dependent on what they associate them with. Or if they associate them with anything at all.
This cannot be explained. It could be fucking anything, since you're talking about a mental response from beings capable of both reason and denial of objective reality. I mean there was this man who stood smiling at the grave of her daughter, a daughter who was murdered by some black gentlemen. That man said he forgives the murderers and has become friends with them.
Like what the fuck? That mental response doesn't make any sense.
You're not making a point. In GATE that didn't happen, USA decided they didn't want to threaten Japan to back off and take over the operation for the time being.
China, Russia and USA have no capital either. They are all debt spending and heading toward economic collapse, as is Japan. in fact, it's possible that China's bubble is literally crashing right now, and if it happens then the rest of the world might crash along it.
Furthermore I have no idea what you mean by "extraction experience", are you trying to say that Japan is some pre-industrialized third world shithole?
Assuming you put aside bloodlust and stick to practical motives, why would you want to slaughter civilians? The only reason could be terror.
These rules of war ban terror, so all you're left with is deterrence. If you hurt the enemy army badly enough, the enemy leadership will understand that it doesn't have the military force to carry on, and surrender.
And while the question of who the winner is is still being decided, the rules of war make sure that deadly force is concentrated on sources of deadly force, while people (and objects) who aren't a threat are spared, because by definition they're not the ones doing harm.
You could go ahead and read the actual geneva conventions, the text is intentionally simple to understand to make it useful to soldiers in the field. By reading up on the things that are forbidden to do, you can get an idea of the needless horrors that are averted.
the only the US didn't in GATE is because the writer wrote it that way. Real US would be all over that shit, as would real China and real Russia.
You have no idea what capital is if you think the two nations with the most are "out" of it. Government deficit spending is not very related to how much money they can actually come up with.
Extraction experience is expertise at running a resource extraction business. Just like every other industry, experience in that doesn't come overnight. Japan has very little native extraction industry, they don't have enough people with the know how to get oil and minerals out of the ground efficiently.
"Extraction experience is expertise at running a resource extraction business. Just like every other industry, experience in that doesn't come overnight. Japan has very little native extraction industry, they don't have enough people with the know how to get oil and minerals out of the ground efficiently."
You could, plausibly, import technology/human resources from other countries to supply this deficit, nothing absurdly difficult if they offer high enough wages/benefits.
ON another note: is the Geneva Convention even valid beyond the Gate?
Meaningless buzzwords. But if you want to get into it, anime is rather gynocentric and GATE is no exception. Some of the most powerful characters are women, and there are women in combat units who not only perform well but are often the pillar of reason.
Gate also has the different races thing, like the cat people being treated like shit by the Emperors son or whatever his face was plus that eccentric former lord who had a lot of "diversity" in his retinue.
Never mind the insane wealth inequality in the imperial capital. All of this points toward leftism. This guy may be right wing, but his anime is not based solely on what is traditionally known as "right wing" values. (even though left and right are buzzwords to spook the plebs)
You have no way of knowing that. In reality USA has the least competent leadership in the world, and they are bought by international corporations who have no allegiance to any country. To them it makes no difference whether they pay taxes to Japan or USA. In fact, they'd probably prefer to pay taxes to Japan, given that USA has if not then pretty close to the highest corporate tax rate in the world.
That shit about "native extraction industry" literally doesn't matter. There will be thousands of corporations lining up at their door for the extraction rights. Some of them may even be national corporations from the likes of China, which is obviously not likely going to ever get a hand in the pot, but doesn't hurt to try.
does it even matter? i mean, many "nationalists" actually denounce corruption, many dictatorships on South America, for example, were based on the fight against "communism" and "corruption" inside their governments as justification for their coup d´etat (just watch LoGH to see this kind of thing in action),
>GATE opens in the middle of Australia.
>Before the army can invade, the shitposts flowing out of Australia will drown out the entire fantasy world and for one day 4chan will be shitpostless.
>All of this points toward leftism
You could just as easily interpret the multiracial country with tremendous inequality of wealth favouring an Anglo-like ethnicity as USA-expy.
>USA has the least competent leadership in the world
The world is a very large place, and it includes many countries you're ignoring for the sake of rhetoric.
I would say it doesn't, it's not unusual for nationalists to see the government as corrupt and ineffective. Nationalists usually do not glorify the government, but rather they glorify the people. Specially the working class and civilians. Maybe also the police and army.
Glorifying the government is usually a trait of socialists, since their ideology hinges on the government being just and incorruptible.
Irrelevant countries? Maybe. But most of those irrelevant countries are ripping USA off by siphoning foreign aid, which makes their leadership arguably more competent. USA is paying more than any other nation I know in foreign aid to third world dictators.
It depends on how you define competence. I don't consider the quality of life of the people living in the country relevant, since the political class has no interest in that.
>In reality USA has the least competent leadership in the world
Man, Europe is really trying this hard. How's the refugee sleeping in your bed with your waifu? Did your EU overlords grant you one or three?
How does the refugee crisis hurt EU politicians? I mean it might start backfiring on them in the future, but I'm thinking that they can keep control and suppress the population or even get a more authoritarian system in place. They are very incompetent, but EU has a lot better chance of retaining the establishment control than USA does.
Nice argument, paste eater. Oh what's that, you have none? That's right.
I didn't do that. What country has less competent leadership than USA? I can't think of any and I know most countries that aren't tiny islands in the middle of nowhere.
The fact that it's against the rules of war? Literally what makes something a warcrime. There's literally a book of shit you're not allowed to do in a war. Generally, this is stuff like 'no fighting in civvie clothes only, at least wear a band or something', 'medics MUST have a red cross' and 'chemical weapons are not kosher'.
>European union is on 23 years old.
>Has been on the verge of economic and social collapse for the last two years.
>United States is 240 years old.
>Is still the world's only super power.
top fucking kek, m8.
Oh yeah, foreign aid is basically bribe money to play nice. Give money so that you don't have to clean up their shit because every other country in the world is absolutely pathetic and can't do anything without the United States.
Thailand is a Joke right now, I think. Runs by a General who doesn't know shit and doesn't have the wisdom to listens to ones that do. And likes to run his mouth off on national tv every frickin day.
Yeah, Thailand is a nice candidate.
The Security Council would've made GATE a UN Operation from the get go and pressured Japan.
Civilians did nothing the fuck wrong you piss fuck. They are normal people trying to live their lives like you, me, and other people. Soldiers are people just doing their job.
Tl:dr Civilians did nothing wrong, there is a book about Rules of War that you can read up on.
>He doesn't know what a super power is.
>Militia forces show up in such ridiculous numbers the economy takes a massive blow from lost man-hours
>there's nowhere near enough guns somehow and many show up completely unarmed
>so many militiamen get sent as auxiliaries to the NG/SG forces that they actually fucking form pike units so they can fight too
And then the US Army finally shows up twenty minutes later and can't convince anybody to leave despite 200 federal infantry on bradleys being wholly sufficient for the task.
Greece is run by literal communists who fulfilled none of their promises and were completely unqualified. Yet they don't seem to be going anywhere and are doing what their puppet masters in EU are saying like good lapdogs.
I'd say they are serving their purpose well.
What exactly did he do? That doesn't sound bad to me. Running mouth on national TV is a good thing, specially if people believe what you're saying.
EU and US establishment are the same thing. Difference is, that it looks like they are losing US for sure but there is a chance they can keep EU.
You say it like Japan wasn't given the chance to surrender again, and again, and again, and again, and refused each time. The IJA attempted a fucking coup when Hirohito decided to surrender. If they had succeeded and kept fighting, then yes, MacArthur should and would have gone ahead with Downfall.
His territory is already crippled. All that's left is to ensure that he's the one in political power to surrender to the JSDF.
He can annex the vassal states' territories and place them under Senate rule later, but only if he's alive to do it.
His son, on the other hand, is a complete chucklefuck.
>Okinawa has real problems with the US presence there.
No, a vocal minority has problems with the US presence there. The general public knows that Imperial Japan and the nationalists that glorify it treated Okinawa like shit, that the Chinese would treat Okinawa like shit, and that the Americans are great for their economy.
>Don't be oblivious to what other major countries can do.
You mean have zero force projection or strategic airlift capability?
Also we still literally own GPS. There is an off switch. There's also an 'off for everyone but us' switch.
Gate. The story of how the third biggest economy in the, (and by some accounts) the most technologically advanced country on the planet totally massacred a 15th century agrarian society.
Sasuga Nihon. This is just Japanese right wing propaganda.
> UK and France bomb Libya, "spearheads operation"
> All in-air tanking, AWACS, and target identification handled by US
> run out of bombs after a week and has to borrow some from US navy
> Germany, brooms, nuff said
The only country that can somewhat match the US in capabilities in China, and guess what, GATE Japan is cucking them too. Keep it up and you will get the strangest of bedfellows in the pursuit of money and oil.
How does it look like they are losing US, but keeping the EU? How does that make any sense? Do you honestly buy into the propaganda that the United States is falling apart? This happens literally all the time. It's a constant in the entire history of the United States. The United States is like a big family only Texas can call New York a liberal pussy, but if a bunch of pissed off Saudis crash a plane into two towers in New York than you know for sure that those same Texans are going out and killing those sons of bitches. The United States knows how to work as a well oiled machine when there is a common enemy, but there really isn't one today as there was one 15 years ago.
Explain this. Really. Explain this. Do you mean the China that has the collapsing economy because they played with the numbers too much? Do you mean the failing Russian infrastructure and the fact that once Putin dies Russia is going to go into full melt down mold because no one can hold power like him?
Yeah, no, I don't think so.
>200 federal infantry on bradleys being wholly sufficient for the task
>Do you mean the China that has the collapsing economy because they played with the numbers too much?
Yet they continue to bilk us for all we're worth and laugh all the way to the bank while gorging their military buildup and increase their projection of force.
>Do you mean the failing Russian infrastructure and the fact that once Putin dies Russia is going to go into full melt down mold because no one can hold power like him?
The same Russia that is capitalizing on the massive power vacuum we left in the Mid-East and making large strides in influencing regional affairs in its own favor and to our direct detriment.
>gorging their military buildup and increase their projection of force.
I know, right? That one ex-Soviet aircraft carrier can project a lot of force.
India has more aircraft carriers than China.
>The same Russia that is capitalizing on the massive power vacuum we left in the Mid-East and making large strides in influencing regional affairs in its own favor and to our direct detriment.
Do you mean by trying to hold on to Syria? You know, there only real ally in the region? Cause that's all they're trying to do.
>Yet they continue to bilk us for all we're worth
No they don't.
>laugh all the way to the bank
Those are the laughs of men who have given in to despair and lost all hope.
>while gorging their military buildup and increase their projection of force.
Yeah. I'm so fucking scared of Type 54As, minesweepers and J-10's. Wake me when they build something that won't be sunk by RIM-116s fired in inertial mode, or a stiff breeze for that matter when you talk about their sooper scary reef airstrips.
>The same Russia that is capitalizing on the massive power vacuum we left in the Mid-East and making large strides in influencing regional affairs in its own favor and to our direct detriment.
Are we watching the same war? They are becoming increasingly ineffectual despite increasing interference, they're somehow less relevant now than when they were just shipping Kekssad tanks and dickwaving with the baltic fleet. Russians are and will always be limp dicked Slav faggots and nothing they do can unfuck that. Slavs gonna slav.
>Apparently artificial islands are more than adequate for projecting force.
They are not. You need weapons systems to PUT on them. They have none suitable for long range force projection.
>Apparently artificial islands are more than adequate for projecting force
They're stationary and easily blockaded. A force of aircraft carriers are much more useful than a artificial island.
>Have you considered the strategic impact surrounding the pipeline issue?
Why would I? That's more important to Europe than America. The United States is literally the world's largest oil and natural gas producer. Thanks to hydraulic fracturing.
The "Shock and awe" tactic is to break down the enemy's will, not to commit genocide on them. America also used it in the Iraq war and didn't need to kill ten of thousands to completely disband the whole nation's army. With the 60000 death toll, the SDF clearly wanted to massacre them en masses instead of breaking their will.
About magic casters, you probably didn't pay attention, but this author makes the fantasy world so weak that their mages look even less impressive than our magicians and con-artists. A weakass fire ball is considered an awesome feat to them, and those mages are too rare to find, probably 1 out of ten of thousands. The majority of their army likely didn't witness any magic in their whole life.
>Could be religious. Earthquake could be associated with end times in their religion. Human response to events is dependent on what they associate them with. Or if they associate them with anything at all.
That's not it. Earthquake never happened in their world before, that's why when it happened for the first time, they imagine the world was going to end, it's human's nature to fear the unknown. And the impact from artillery shelling could easily be mistaken to earthquake by those primitives.
That's actually my point. I use it to argue with another anon who said there's no need for diplomacy when bunch of savages're trying to kill you, instead, you need to kill them all.
>No they don't.
>Those are the laughs of men who have given in to despair and lost all hope.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
>Yeah. I'm so fucking scared of Type 54As, minesweepers and J-10's.
How about those fancy new ballistic anti-ship missiles that our countermeasures are incapable of intercepting?
>Are we watching the same war?
Apparently not; I'm observing reality while you're content to keep your head stuck up your ass.
>They are becoming increasingly ineffectual despite increasing interference, they're somehow less relevant now than when they were just shipping Kekssad tanks and dickwaving with the baltic fleet.
There are plenty of other ways to exert influence, and plenty of regional governments are all too eager to play ball with them.
You seem to have missed the conjunction/preposition.
Given how much they're dumping into their military buildup on our dime I'd say that will certainly be arranged in time if the status quo is allowed to remain unchanged.
>They're stationary and easily blockaded.
They can always pursue indirect means of thwarting that.
>A force of aircraft carriers are much more useful than a artificial island.
A network of several artificial islands is appreciably more difficult to manage even WITH carriers.
>Why would I?
Because it has considerable ontological value.
>That's more important to Europe than America.
With a hostile Syria the pipeline goes to Iran; that's a sizable economic asset they can and WILL use against us.
>The United States is literally the world's largest oil and natural gas producer.
>Thanks to hydraulic fracturing.
No longer profitable now that the Sods have reduced their prices.
>cruise missiles slow enough to intercept even with outdated aircraft
>target practice for those fancy new ballistic anti-ship missiles
In fairness, the Iraqi army barely had the will to fight to begin with. Ten years wasn't long enough for them to forget the pasting they got in the Gulf War.
The textbook example of shock and awe is Hiroshima and Nagasaki, though strategic bombing usually applies to begin with.
Earthquakes have happened in their world, the Imperial heartland just isn't geologically active and the people there aren't educated enough to understand it. The harpy had experienced volcanic tremors, as I recall, which is why she was freaking out.