How funny would it be if Wave got NTR'd? Like he helps his bitch get off drugs and then she meets someone else? That happened to my uncle once. Was hilarious. He helped her through withdrawal. She stabbed him with a fork. I think they disagreed over finances in the end. True story.
>>136025881 Kurome is basically a child soldier who was brainwashed since birth by the evil empire. She herself bears no sin. Her true character is an innocent loli. She is the victim her, what she deserves are love, care and help, not punishment.
>>136028726 You means the time she boasted about how evil she was when fighting the whole NR? It's obviously psychological warfare she used to mess with her enemies' mind, you can't treat those lines as actual facts. In recent chapters, don't you see how sincere she treated her former comrades who turned corpse?
>>136028931 Debattable, but since she has an excuse with the "I had the right to do it because I'm in the army" it works. The shitty past isn't a free get out of jail ticket though, someone like Rosine from Berserk totally deserved to die.
>>136028975 Didn't she murder a whole bunch of no-names and sit on their corpses early on?
>>136029030 >Didn't she murder a whole bunch of no-names and sit on their corpses early on? Do you know who they were? They could be innocents, but could also be bloodthirsty bandit who weren't above killing children. It's uncertain so can't be use as a proof to support any debate.
>>136028726 Cause the empire completely destroyed her mind. That wasn't Kurome but a mind raped and drug addict slave. Literally not responsible for her actions. They experimented on her to turn Kurome into an obedient assassing and turned her into a drug addict so she always comes back for more. Said drugs are also mental torture to keep her from reverting back into her actual self. Did you never read Zero? If Kurome or any of her former team members made the tiniest mistake they put her in a fucking dark isolation cell and take away all their drugs to make them go mental after having made them into extreme addicts. Kurome did nothing wrong.
>>136029617 The whole "using drug to make them slaves to the empire" isn't mentionned in the manga, I thought it was just to make them more efficient killers. Maybe I've missed it or it's just in Zero.
>>136029633 She had a dumb kid and elf for that though, good thing she died from her wounds, fuck Rosine
>>136029734 >Maybe I've missed it Yes, you missed it. It was stated several times in the manga how those drugs worked, their effect and the reason the empire made Kurome and her comrades addicted to them. >She had a dumb kid and elf for that though No, unless those two can fight toe to toe with Guts like how Wave fight off Tatsumi, they clearly couldn't save her.
>>136025881 >No comeuppance at all? The loss of her main weapon and her drugs mean she probably won't be able to fight again or stuff least for a very long time. She's basically defenseless on her own now.
>>136033511 >wave looked like death and was knocked out of grand chariot He's already injured before the dual-wielding. After that since the problem was solve, he discarded his armor on his own. Seriously, did you just skimmed it?
>>136033511 >the one only using one teigu is weak because he is using a teigu at all
See this is were you're mistaken. Tatsumi is being used by his teigu now, and is destroying him. Waver can use two and be himself. The only reason Tatsumi can fight him is because he's allowing him to be eaten by a superpowerful beast.
On another topic. Do you think Ecstase will play a part in the endgame? Shit's pretty OP can potentially kill both Esdeath AND Tyrant we just need someone who can hold it and gets a good shot.
>>136033653 he lost his armor after grand fall. he didnt discard shit. he even had to put it back on, go reread it
>>136033703 your argument is that tatsumi is weak without incursio. thats not even an argument, wave is not only using grand chariot but he is abusing TWO teigu. he lost a fair fight. it doesnt matter if MC is using fire to fight and its just burning himself.
>>136033703 >On another topic. Do you think Ecstase will play a part in the endgame? Shit's pretty OP can potentially kill both Esdeath AND Tyrant we just need someone who can hold it and gets a good shot. We still don't know if Megazord will be a thing in the manga. Even if it will, both Esdeath and Tatsumi are way stronger than they was in the anime, for Tatsumi can become a full Tyrant and Esdeath still has trump cards yet to be show.
>>136033965 >it doesnt matter if MC is using fire to fight and its just burning himself. It matters and its an argument on equal conditions we saw Wave wrecking Tatsumi's shit and the later had to run into hiding. Now Tatsumi holds a power beyond Teigu due to his deal with the devil and is destroying him, Waver fights him evenly for a while when for all intentions and purpouses he should be curbstomped silly. Tatsumi fighting at his limit is still weaker than Wave but he's now going beyond his natural limutfor power.
Is like losing in sports to a drug abusing guy after a great match. The loser guy deserves all recognition in the world for putting up a fight against a pumped up guy who likely won't be that strong without his drugs.
>>136034371 thats not how it works tatsumi ran from wave because grand chariot used to be stronger than incursio, now its the other way around because incursio has the power to evolve
tatsumi is using incursio's power to fight wave is using grand chariot's power to fight (and later also the wing thing) it doesnt matter if incursio is turning tatsumi into a beast, both of them are fighting with the power of their teigu.
>>136034685 >the strength of tatsumi/wave is irrelevant. Seems like you're trying to discuss another thing altogether. If that's really your focus then "filler tier trash" don't really apply because your not judging the fighters, just their gloves.
>>136034848 he is filler tier because he hasnt done anything other than saving Kurome and he just jobbed against tatsumi. hes weaker than MC because we needed a jobber and he hasnt done much because the writing is shit.
>>136034963 tatsumi just beat wave with two teigu and thats probably wave's absolute limit. tatsumi is only going to get stronger and will probably be hax tier by the time he loses to tyrant
>>136035173 >tatsumi just beat wave with two teigu and thats probably wave's absolute limit. tatsumi is only going to get stronger and will probably be hax tier by the time he loses to tyrant That's the Tyrant's stregtht, not Tatsumi's. Wave is still using weapons. Tataumi is dying being posessed by one due to his lack of strenght. Tyrant becoming stronger is actually a testament of Tatsumi's weakness. He knows that and that's why he compliments Wave as the stronger of the two.
>>136035550 Because lots of bad bad shit happened to him and he thusly thought that there was no other outcome out of this situation other than the two fighting. The fact that Wave managed to stop them is actually pretty impressive.
>>136035550 Because in a sense he lost faith in himself and his ideals and truly thinks a fight to the death is the only answer. Wave pulled a freaking miracle and probably saved Tatsumi's soul by reigniting some of his faith in good again.
>>136035338 Fucker, since you're too stupid, what I mean is one can't possibly immediately get used to a new teigu and thus unleash its full power in the first try. Wave just used Ran's wing teigu for first time, he will get stronger once he learns to master it.
Beside, since he already broke the rule about 1 man 1 teigu, who are you to decide he can't use 1 more? Stop being ridiculous.
>>136035621 It was explicitly state in the manga Tatsumi got possessed because he's weak, the first one who got possessed, meaning he's weaker than all previous owners.
If you want to insist they both use "weapons", just change the user and see what will happen. Someone stronger than Tatsumi won't be possess thus can't use Tyrant's full strength and will loose to the one who use Grand Chariot, it's improved verson.
>>136035734 that example doesnt even work. now if one person had two grenades and the other person had a nuke, then itd work.
youre ignoring that both people have a similar power and are fighting purely on that. their human strength is irrelevant.
>>136035762 how are rans wings going to help him beat tatsumi? shooting feathers at him is going to do jack shit and it doesnt do anything else other than allow him to fly. grand fall was his best choice.
>>136035909 im not arguing that tatsumi is turning into a beast, very clearly that is happening, im arguing that all his power is from incursio. even if incursio is turning tatsumi himself into a beast, its still the power of his teigu that is causing it
>>136036114 >similar power That changed the moment Tatsumi opened the door to Tyrant. You're comparing people wielding weapons to a guy who's allowing a monster use his body as a living weapon. And you already got good points from other anons as for why their personal strenght (both physical and mental) actually matters.
>>136036114 >how are rans wings going to help him beat tatsumi? shooting feathers at him is going to do jack shit and it doesnt do anything else other than allow him to fly. grand fall was his best choice. A gun's only allowed you to shoot bullets, right? If it's that easy then there's no need to train for years to be a professional shooter, but guess what? They do it IRL. Having a weapon and effectively using it is two different thing. Wave can try to shoot into his eyes or something, hell, since this is a manga, he may even combine 2 teigu to create even more powerful trump cards, like flying in march speed, making his kick strong enough to break Incursio, dragging Tatsumi to the sky and slam him real hard to the ground, or even creating a new move out of nowhere Esdeath-style.
>>136036114 >im not arguing that tatsumi is turning into a beast, very clearly that is happening, im arguing that all his power is from incursio. even if incursio is turning tatsumi himself into a beast, its still the power of his teigu that is causing it Then it means the one who's stronger than Wave is the Tatsumi-Tyrant hybrid, not Tatsumi himself. >>136036220 This. Wave use teigus as weapons to fight, Tatsumi become the weapon to be used by the teigu.
>>136036220 tyrant is just incursio. its all incursios power. there is no difference.
incursio > grand chariot
whether you like tatsumi or wave more is irrelevant, wave got a shitty power and tatsumi has hax tier MC power.
>>136036435 are you the same guy who said the ufc thing? you need to work on your metaphors. this is a fantasy manga with magic and shit, wave would probably be 100% accurate. also dont forget about pic related
>>136036527 doesnt matter, its all from incursios power.
>>136036610 >are you the same guy who said the ufc thing? you need to work on your metaphors. this is a fantasy manga with magic and shit, wave would probably be 100% accurate. also dont forget about pic related Not that anon, but the guy who said >>136035250, meaning if "wave would probably be 100% accurate", Tatsumi should be always as strong as the first time he use Incursio, which's false. And your pic will never being reality, since the manga is different to the anime, Tatsumi won't become golden digimon, the way he's transforming, he's getting more and more like a dragon. In his final transformation, he will become the Tyrant itself, a full blow dragon.
>>136036795 giant robot is 100% happening, prepare for the inevitable. this time its going to be giant robot vs giant tyrant, we all know you thought that was gonna happen when he transformed for the last time in the anime https://youtu.be/aLGhfQ7DSjg
>>136036795 there is efficiency and there is power. you train to be more precise with a gun, it doesnt make the gun more powerful. tatsumi didnt get more powerful until incursio evolved, he just got better at using it. for example, inexperienced tatsumi using evolved incursio would beat experienced tatsumi using not evolved incursio. i mean wave would be accurate with no experience because the feathers work off magic. and even if they land on anyone, they would do as much damage as ran did when he used them.
>>136021924 >that shit is still going on >there are people on /a/ who read fucking akame ga kill What the fuck, that manga is pure fucking garbage. What kind of shit taste fuckwit does one have to be to read that irredeemable shit? Seriously, how didn't it get axed?
>>136038257 >bumping this shit thread from page 10 with your retarded faggotry Maximum cancer Most people outside of high school can recognize AGK as the shit it is. Please explain how anyone over the age of 13 with a brain could think it does anything right and the writer isn't terrible? Is /a/ being flooded?
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