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What went wrong?
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too much orihime

not enough rukia
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>>135798796
You made this post. faggot.

Where's the fucking new chapter.
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>>135798829
This is how you spot a man with taste.
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Kubo
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Hundreds of characters that don't move the plot forward.

And stupid story decisions as well.

Why the fuck was Grimmjow and Nel booted the fuck out of the story only to appear hundreds of chapters later?

Grimmjow SHOULD have been this series Vegeta. Instead, i keep wondering to myself what the fuck is going on from a cohesive narrative standpoint.
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>>135798829
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>>135798829
Shit tastes.
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>>135799410
Spot the pleb
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Naruto
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>>135798829
This anon nailed it.

This is exactly what is wrong with Bleach.
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>>135798829
B.I.N.G.O.

She could literally be pulled from the story and nothing would change.
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Should have stopped after the soul society arc.
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I stopped reading at the beginning of the Super Sentai arc (the one after Hueco Mundo). I assume it got even worse since then, right?
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Same as any action manga that goes bad. The story just became an excuse for cheesy, melodramatic fights, in a setting that lost all of it's appeal.

After how detailed and interesting Soul Society was, Hueco Mundo was a huge disappointment. Just a desert with Aizen's castle in it.

Then we got the Fullbringers, who came out nowhere and added nothing to the setting.

Now we're fighting Quincies, who up until then were just a minor faction. It's like if the final bosses of HxH were a group of surviving Kurtas.
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>>135798796

THE HEART
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>>135800447
I just checked, and realized it was the same chapter we got this.
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>>135798796
Is this the only way bleachfags know how to keep bleach relevant? Every fucking bleach thread is the same shit.
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first the dude gets power, then loses it, then get's his own power, then gets his mask power, then get's his ''final'' power, then loses his power, then get's his true power, in the manga he like gets two swords so this bullshit probably continues there.
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>>135800632
And right before that we got this.
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It went on about ten years too long.
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>>135798796
-Terrible pacing.
-MC with absolutely no personality.
-Terrible pacing.
-Introduction of dozens of characters without fleshing out the dozens that already exist.
-Terrible pacing.
-Power creep which has rendered many characters ultimately useless.
-Terrible pacing.
-MC being half everything just for convenience to the plot.
-Terrible pacing.
-Terrible pacing.
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>>135799750
No shipperfags pulling out each others throats
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>>135800637
You're right. They should start every thread with this beautiful man.
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>>135798796
Kubo kept making it up as he went.
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I just want it to be over already. I don't even like Bleach anymore, I just want to finish it so that starting it doesn't feel like such a huge fucking waste of time.
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>>135800632
that is bullshit that we never got to see that fight.. Kenny and... Cherry sword. That shit would have been awesome
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>>135800875
You forgot shit worldbuilding, zero attention to past continuity, ass pulls everywhere, and terrible pacing
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>>135798796
Characters who were initially interesting lost their flare because Kubo failed to give them any arc or growth

Fights went from being strategic and fun to DBZ-tier art-obscuring explosions mixed with ridiculous ass pull abilities ("when I die I impregnate whatever's nearby me," "I physically can't be damaged in any way whatsoever," etc)

Kubo stopped drawing characters in relation to their environment and each other (I'm not talking about the "white backgrounds" meme, I'm saying that he literally is incapable of doing an overhead shot of a group of characters standing together that looks visually good)
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>>135801489
I agree wholeheartedly
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>>135798829
>not enough Yoruichi
ftfy
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>>135798796
Lost focus after Namek as thing continued to spin out of control. Kubo should be doing character designs, not an ongoing shonen.
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>>135798796
Ichigo has zero personality and likable traits. There's a huge amount of boring characters which overshadow the few decent ones. The conflicts are lame. The story should've ended a while ago. I guess the biggest issue is that there really isn't an overarching problem that guides the story.
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>>135803343
Bleach is honestly only good for the doujins
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>>135798796
>What went wrong?

Killing best girl.
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>>135798829
This desu
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>>135802733
It would have been shit.
Yammy was all bark and no bite. Starrk, Baraggan and Ulq Segunda Etapa were miles better than him.
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>>135798829
Salty rukiafag
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>>135803391
Kubo should have brought in a time traveler after Mexico. Have him be the son of Rukia and Ichigo and have him warn everyone about the killer Quincies created by Dr. Ywach, the scientist behind the Quincy Ribbon Army. Then have them all get absorbed by Imperfect Ywach to create Perfect Ywach, then have a training montage in the Dangai where everyone learns to go Bankai 2.
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>>135803669
I still wanted to see it.. or read it
Starrk was boring as fuck. "hurr durr I am lonely.. Play with you? Sure"
Baraggan boiled down to "How the fuck am I going to have the shinigami crew defeat him? Literally everything they would throw at him would decay.. " and honestly I cannot remember how they defeated him.
Ulq v2 was crap. Why he was a fan favorite I will never know but why didn't he ever show that stage to Aizen? It would have pushed his number up. And why the heck was he the only one that could do it? That is like having Gohan being the only one that can go ssj
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>>135799788
Most people agree with this, but what would you do to end the story from there?
My version:
>Aizen escapes with hogyoku
>Ichigo and Co. make amends with soul society and goes home to let them prepare for war
>prototype arrancar start appearing in Karakura
>Hat and Clogs apologizes, exposits on hogyoku, hollow/shinigami hybirds, and how to stop it
>he takes Orihime into training to destroy hogyoku
>Isshin (revealed as first vizard) takes Ichigo to do dangai precipice world training
>Chad and Uryu (armed only with minimal spirit tools and wits) defend town in the meantime
>shinigami provide back up as arrancar attacks become more intense/frequent
>Grimmjow and Ulquiorra show up to slap people's shit until the captains show up
>captains slap their shit
>arrancar Ichimaru and Tosen show up, give captains a hard time
>Ichigo and Isshin finally show up, wipe Ichicmaru and Tosen with no effort
>Aizen shows up, spills evil plan, becomes butterfly
>Isshin dies. Ichigo must contain rage to have any chance against Aizen
>Aizen actually dies, hogyoku destroyed
>Ichigo left powerless, Karin and Tatsuki revealed to have shinigami potential
>the end
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>>135803548
I've never seen a single episode/chapter of Bleach. What is so best about this generic girl?
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>>135803982
christmas cake/surrogate milf who's also low key yandere
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Too much shitty fanservice for weebs
The same problem that the whole anime industry has
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What went right?
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>>135804161
There is severe lack of fancervice in the last arc.
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>>135804081
And that's "best" what? Girl with kimono and katana N42147... I don't get it.
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>>135804229
Only if you are a fat virgin
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Killing Starrk
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>>135803875
>why didn't he ever show that stage to Aizen? It would have pushed his number up
Segunda Etapa was a plot device to make Ichigo fight the strongest Espada without ever calling Ulq the strongest Espada, so Ichigo seems to be less of a Mary Sue.
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Started to take itself too seriously.
The later fights in Hueco Mundo felt like they had no character to them.
I actually really enjoyed the Fullbringer arc because it was more like the beginning.
Ichigo felt vulnerable and not unstoppable and the fate of the world didn't depend on him so he could actually lose.
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>>135798796
Not enough Aizen. It is never enough
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Kubo likes to introduce characters more than developping them. Also he should have kept the tone of the pre soul society chapters, when hollows were still a threat and lighting wasn't the main focus. But he went the yuyu hakusho way.
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>>135804238
Best matchup for Zaraki fighting and otherwise
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It suffered from endless shounen syndrome. Can you imagine how epic it could have been if it was concluded very soon after aizen revealed himself as the bad guy?
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>>135798796
It was a shitty shonen.
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Constant insane power ups.
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>>135799527
Lemmy, you are dead, stop shitposting from Valhalla and get back to that collaboration album with DIO already.
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>>135804821
This guy looks quite pathetic. Guess he wasn't good enough a match for the "cool guys" and needed someone mediocre to face? Unimpressive.
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>>135805792
>This guy
kek
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>>135798829
This
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>>135798796
Well, let's see:
>Trying to write a seinin in WSJ, which doesn't work and just ends up being half-baked edgy shounen
>Panel layout looks good, but make inefficient use of space and drags pacing to a crawl
>Kubo solves writers block by introducing new characters, so the cast is way too bloated.
>Fights are formulaic as fuck, whoever has the most trump cards wins.
>Ichigo's character has gotten progressively more bland, to the point where he's completely uninteresting
>Constant asspulls
>No backgrounds

He draws delicious brown girls, though.
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>>135806262
>Trying to write a seinin in WSJ
How?
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>>135806262
>Trying to write a seinin in WSJ
Are you retarded?
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>>135798796
Kubo doesn't know how to get from point A to B. He has good ideas but his pacing is completely shit and he fucks up said ideas somehow. MC is bland and secondary characters don't get enough exposure.
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>Guys, do you want something amazing?
>I present you this awesome fullbring skill tree for Ichigo
>Lol, jk, ill stick with gay samurais with big swords :))))
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>>135800260
>It's like if the final bosses of HxH were a group of surviving Kurtas.
I think it's pretty different, A Quincy vs Shinigami war has always been obvious, I kind of like how we're going to end similarly to how we started: Ichigo vs Uryu.
Unlike the Kurta clan, Quincys were a major adversary and given how they died out with have some bad blood with the Soul Society; A better example would be The Kurta clan vs Meteor City or Phantom Troupe.
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>>135798796
the created desided to make a shonen manga instead of one about fashion design
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>>135806706
>instead of one about fashion design
I would read the fuck out of a book that was even 50% manga covers. It's the one thing Kubo knew how to put effort into.
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>>135806535
Kubo's ability to take a bunch of dropped plot threads and tie them all together as though he had planned it all along is pretty impressive though
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>>135807092
Soul King and Soul Queen. Watched over by the Royal Guard
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>>135807092
When will Kubo realize that he needs to cancel Bleach and write a spinoff where all the characters work in the fashion industry? He could even keep the name, and it would actually make more sense.
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>>135807579
I'd read it.
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>>135807579
what the fuck would he do with Kenny?
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where do i start reading the manga after the anime so it would make sense?
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>>135807579
>He could even keep the name, and it would actually make more sense.
Ha.
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>>135807579
You wouldn't even have to write the characters much differently either:
>Ichigo is a hard-worker trying to keep his family together while his drunkard dad pisses away thier dead mother's savings
>bumps into Rukia, who tells him he can make easy money as a model
>Urahara is the eccentric fashion designer looking for freelance models
>introduce other friends as either models, seamsters, photogs, or agents
>story arc involving jealous agency trying to buy Rukia back
>other arc involving Urahara's apprentice taking over the fashion world
>other arc involving Ichigo being helped back into the industry after giving it all up to help his friends
>other arc involving Ichigo's fashion rival reviving an old agency to take Milan by storm
Something like that I guess. It's not hard to rewrite the whole plot to be about fashion.
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>>135807923
I... actually want to read this.
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>>135807923
This sounds interesting though. It can't be Bleach.
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>>135807898
You turn your monitor upside down and being reading from whenever.
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>>135808474
thanks
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>>135807898
Chapter 480 is where the current arc starts which is the only one the anime didn't get to.
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>>135807860
Loan shark maybe?
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Where is the new Chapter!?
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>>135809825
It's Winter Break

Next week maybe
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>>135809825
Next week
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>>135809825
Tomorrow or next week. Who knows?
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>>135803669
Still better than shark tits.
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