Shirobako

>>135607722
Reminder that Shizuka sucks cocks for a living.

that's all her throat is good for

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>>135607722
>can't actually draw anything anymore
>still somehow employed
What a loser.

>>135607779
He can draw, they just aren't using him right.

>>135607779
He works on Kodomo anime(we saw his drawings), his style just doesn't work for moe and otaku pandering garbage.

Why won't he give in to the otaku hivemind

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>>135607751
So is Oi-chan a virgin or not? I'm not a purityfag really but she seems so career obsessed that this scene seemed really out of place.

He won't draw moe anime but ironically he is a moe anime man himself.

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>>135607722
>Can't draw
>Literally saves anime
>Even KAnno sucks his cock

Also can you make a girl smile like this? No you can't, so shut the fuck up.

>>135607850
So basically he is economically worthless? Moe and otaku pandering might be tasteless but it is what keeps the industry going.

>>135608040
meant for >>135607779

>>135607962
No it didn't, how does a joke seem out of place? Of course she's not retarded she knows what her sister meant.

Also
>vlc

>>135608063
I literally just told you he works in Kodomo anime. Also he saved Exodus! final episode.

>>135608063
He works on children's daytime shows that earn ad revenue instead of BD sales.

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ZAWA ZAWA
>ZAWA ZAWA ZAWA ZAWAAAA

>>135608293
Zawa? Zawa zawa zawa? Zawa.

what happened to the making off shirobako anime?

>>135608549
The entire series and its various offshoots got cancelled because it was a strange hybrid between drama, slice of life, and moe/CGDCT (the moe especially helped to kill it.)

>>135608656
blimey that's sad, i was actually looking forward some good o' jap passive agressive shit.

>>135608656
>The entire series and its various offshoots got cancelled
If I'm remembering right it was the best selling show of its season, though.
And since it was originally planned to be four cours instead of the two we got I wouldn't think a second season is too much to hope for.

>>135608656
>Shirobako v8, final volume, adds 253 BDs, total 14,541. Series average: 15,470.

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>>135607722
Best character is pic related lad

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>>135609254
God-tier husbando material.

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I enjoyed Aoi's suffering.

I enjoyed all their suffering, Ema and Zuka particularly too.

Post sufferings.

I loved how frustrating it was to watch this show seeing as how Aoi was suffering so much due to work related stress.

I really loved this series.

Oh you haven't finished it have you? It would be bad if someone.. spoils it

Nagisa dies

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>>135610083

>>135610319
That would make a pretty good doujin actually.

Post ema lewds now

>>135610319
>Megumi Kouno x Toshiyuki Inoue

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...

>>135610640
Worst girl by far. Literally brought in just for moe value.

>>135610697
That's not whatshername with red hair.

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>>135610727
naw, this faggot was worst. All the more satisfying when he got rekt

>>135610792
Daisuke "Fuck Chairs" Hiraoka was my third favorite scene in the whole show.

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The enemy within.

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>>135610792
Literally no one can be as bad as Funny Story.

>>135610950
I was aroused by how hard he got btfo

変な話、I miss this anime.

>>135607722
It's not /u/, dropped

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kantoku was best girl

>>135607722
>Other anime
>Old people are sooo dumb, your life ends after high school, youth is wonderful :^)

>Shirobako
>Your elders are dank, you have a lot to learn even in your twenties

WHY is it that more anime can't do the latter?

>>135611287
Self-loathing otaku hate the idea that they're supposed to be useful in their adulthood.

>>135607850
The only reason he was working on children's shows is because that's what he spent most of his career doing, and the production desk was afraid to put him on moeshit.

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Post bullied bakos.

>>135614215
Post bullying pasta

>>135607962
She goes home drunk and alone. Probably got raped once or twice.

>>135614215
Need more bullying

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>>135616291

>>135614215
I want to break Misa's fingers and tell her she's the shit ruining anime.

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Fucking Takanashi. I don't think I've ever gone from hating a character so much to loving a character so much.

>>135611287
>le dank
Just fuck off.

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>>135614215
You didn't post her sipping BestValu.

>>135612874
Holy shit that old man is ripped

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Best guy

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>>135616793

Well, it's better than sucking on the Salty D.

So is this PA Works' masterpiece?

>>135616831
I think he feels immense enjoyment at losing weight then baking sweets to keep the director fat. He has a serious grudge.

>>135609522

Not OP, I'm sad I missed the threads.

>>135616861
Their only masterpiece.

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>>135616932
Me too. This show would have been fun to watch with /a/. I watched it in December and loved it.

>>135616927
No he was just genuinely a nice guy who knew the fat director will refuse to work without sweets.

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>>135616956
>Angel Beats
>HanaIro
>NagiAsu
>True Tears
>Not masterpieces

Good post anon

>>135617038
>forgetting Glasslip

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The lesson is, if you work in the anime industry you will be forever alone, even if you are super sexy like this.

>>135617038
>shit
>shit
>shit
>chicken shit

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>>135617067
God damn those tits every time

>>135610987

>literally blown the fuck out of his career and the room
Possibly the best comeuppance scene I have witnessed in anime.

>>135617038
>>135616956

Hanasaku Iroha, you swine.

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>>Zuka`s future
Can anybody translate this already?

>>135617067
>sacks of fat
>super sexy
Stop

>>135617128
>not liking boobs
It's ok to be gay, but this level of faggotry is not allowed here.

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>>135617096

Yes?

>>135617210
They should have fucked.

>>135617239
They probably fucked but shit happened and now Andou got cowtits phobia.

>>135617210
But she works at home.

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Who had the best suffering?

>>135614402
>>135616291
Let's cut out the middleman and get straight to the suffering.

Did y'all fellers watch the specials? Exodus and 3rd Girls Fighter Wing?

I wish I had seen the respective episode before each cour to get some idea what these shows they were producing were like.

It's funny the mangaka-sensei dude was rambling about the integrity of his psychological self-exploration when the show is pure fan service schlock. It's also scary to imagine guys like that may actually have that level of power over anime studios. Every series could end up like George Lucas with the Star Wars prequels where nobody could stop him.

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>>135617303

Iguchi had second-best suffering after Zuka-chan.

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Posting best background girl. Man, what a great wasted design.

>>135617330
Just like there is only one George Lucas, there aren't many mangaka that have that kind of power. Most are at the mercy of the editors.
And the problem was caused by the editor, not the mangaka who was totally willing to talk.
And that's the part where it became a little too unbelievable for me. Anime studios would never bow down to a lowly editor. As soon as they realized the editor wasn't working with them they would've gone straight to the publisher and demand a new guy.

>>135617425

Guys only love her for her headset.

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>>135617303
I prefer Zuka, cause I can understand how it`s painful - be unlucky with your job.

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>>135617303
I'm digging through some old ass shit and found this

>>135617469
>they would've gone straight to the publisher and demand a new guy.

That's more or less what happened though

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>>135617391
The best girl has turned into smug donut-stealing bitch. What went wrong?

Anime Of The Decade

zuka bullying needs to stop. it hurts too much

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>>135617303

Why do you people keep bashing on Zuka?

>>135617425
Zettai ryouiki arms is now a thing. True to their namesake, they are progressive.

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>>135617517
she'll have her moment of glory

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>>135617583
That`s our life as is.

>>135617547
No, they went to the chief editor when the project was already in disaster state. And chief editor brushed them off. Which made no sense, because the publisher got a lot of money riding on that project too, they would want to know if something is not working out.

>>135617583

Befitting Zuka, her bullying will only stop near the end of the thread.

>>135617621
Oh that stupid chart again.

>>135617469
>And that's the part where it became a little too unbelievable for me. Anime studios would never bow down to a lowly editor. As soon as they realized the editor wasn't working with them they would've gone straight to the publisher and demand a new guy.
I dunno about that. The issue is that ultimately the author calls the shots, but the editor acts as the intermediary between author and anime studio. When the intermediary is useless, you get problems. And it's not always (rarely? dunno) possible or practical to just go to the publisher and say "we don't like going through this guy, give us someone else to deal with". You have to do everything through the right channels, deal with the person in the position. Even if that person is a useless fuck.
"We won't deal with this guy" is more likely to get you the response "okay then, we won't do business with you" than it is "okay, here's someone different". It sucks, but that's the reality.

>>135617671
Yeah I found that bizarre too. The whole "unhelpful editor" thing seemed to be an extreme exaggeration of how frustrating it is to deal with a writer via proxy, and to get confusing instructions relayed second-hand from the original author. Those are things I could see being realistic. The whole "evil editor holding the keys to the kingdom and making the show fail" was pretty ridiculous.

>>135617550

Her goth-loli master happened.

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>wage slaves

>>135617584
I love details like this.

Shirobako was really great.

>>135617303
I'd honestly say this guy because it was realistic: >>135610792

Completely losing your motivation while being disillusioned about your dream job is awful.

>>135617584

BASED P.A.
A
S
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P.
A.

>>135617724
Wasn't this editor based on a pretty unpopular real person who then tried to defend himself on twitter?

I recall reading something like that in the threads while it aired.

>>135617724
That's assuming he has "make this show fail" as his goal, which he doesn't. He just wants to put in the absolute minimum effort possible, and doesn't give a shit what that means for anyone else. And don't tell me people like that are unrealistic, because I've worked with people like that.

>>135617719
>"We won't deal with this guy" is more likely to get you the response "okay then, we won't do business with you" than it is "okay, here's someone different". It sucks, but that's the reality.
No. It's a project that the publisher also invested in. The publisher would like to know ASAP if there are potential disasters. Of course normally they would prefer the reports come from their own editor, but if the studio think the editor is becoming a huge problem it's also their duty to let the publisher know. And publisher would really want to carefully examine the situation, unlike in the anime the chief editor just basically told them "tough".

>>135617801
>Wasn't this editor based on a pretty unpopular real person who then tried to defend himself on twitter?
dunno, but i think the whole thing was parodying the thing that happened with shirokuma cafe

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-05-31/polar-bear-cafe-creator-comments-further-on-anime

>>135617801
Whether that character was actually based on anyone IRL was never confirmed. The rumor originated when that guy criticized the anime on the internet, which lead to fans speculating that maybe the editor character bothered that guy because it's hitting too close to home.

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>>135609341
He said that because he doesn't want any alpha chads taking his waifu away

So if I work in an anime studio I will meet a lot of cakes and soon-to-be-cakes?

>>135617868
There's a couple of things to keep in mind. First is that the publisher was a bit dubious about the idea of letting MusAni adapt 3rd Aerial Girls Squad to begin with, given the studio's less than stellar past (ie Jiggly Jiggly Heaven). Second, especially given that, the editor-in-chief would tend to believe his own employee's account of events than someone from another company. It was only once the author told the editor-in-chief how useless the editor was being that he took any notice.
That the publisher is invested in the project isn't absolutely compelling above all other factors. Even if the anime were to fail, the publisher probably wouldn't come out at a loss on it. It succeeding would be more profitable and not having that would be worse than having that, but their primary concern is selling books, not scrutinising every detail of adaptations of all of their properties.

Does the way it played out still stretch plausibility at least a bit? Sure. But it is still plausible.

>>135618002
Erika was pure sex.

>>135618002
Who's daughter is this and why does she keep coming to work?

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>>135610171
> mfw I skipped it

Never watched lucky star or k-on either

Feels good having good taste

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Anime needs more /fa/

>>135617621
How does this chart keep getting posted, it can't even be close to right.

How could someones full time salary be 9400? It makes no sense, you couldn't come close to living off that, its like 3rd world povery tier.
And 42500 for a Series Director? I almost earn that and I'm just a lowly IT guy.

>>135618002

>Yano/Hiraoka/Takanashi love triangle
My heart wouldn't survive.

>all the men in Shirobako are realistic, unflattering depictions of men in the industry
>all the women in Shirobako are cartoony, striped-leggings-wearing overdesigned moeblobs

So this is the result of women having their feelings tip-toed around, right?

>>135618002
The best thing about Erika is that she's working at an anime studio, so she's most likely a hardcore otaku too. She'd be fine with all kinds of kinky cosplay sex.

>>135618214
Probably the best thing about this show not being yet another high school setting: they actually wear varied street clothes. And not the same thing every day, but also not a different outfit every single episode because they're poorfags.

>>135607722
>Is there a more based character than this guy?
Well, I can't disagree with those double dubs.

>>135618253
Everyone at the studio likely is, even Ai

>>135618238
Nah, it'll be to pander to the otaku who must have every female character be a candidate for "mai perfect waifu".

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>>135618253

Personally the thigh-high striped stockings were enough to tip me off to that.

>>135618238
>all the men in Shirobako are realistic, unflattering depictions of men in the industry

Not all.
Kantoku was moe as fuck, even if he wasn't the most competent guy.
Honda was just generally competent and likable.
The old man was apparently a living legend even not-Anno respected.

>>135618120
I don't understand what any of those have anything to do with what I said.
You are not thinking like a businessman. Any potential profit they failed to get is considered a loss, even if the project was a net gain at the end.
And it wasn't some trivial matter that the studio went to the chief editor for. It was a brewing disaster. They wouldn't just simply take the editor's words for it, the chief editor would at least try to talk to the mangaka first.

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>>135618253

>>135618238

/poltumblr/ please, please go

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>>135618253
> that one fanart pic where she is dressed as shimakaze

You know the one

>>135618217
Well the average income is not as high as it is in the US or some other European countries.
Even so, that chart is not to be taken seriously. It's way too exaggerated, on both ends.
Animators do get shitty pays but not that low. That's probably for someone that's still in trial period. And the salary for "A-list" voice actors is way too high. There is probably only one seiyuu with that kind of income, namely Mizuki Nana, and she can make that much money because she's also a pop singer.

>>135618360
And you're assuming that every company is run by people who ruthlessly examine everything on the basis of maximising gain, and are absolutely competent at that. In all probability, the editor had his nose so far up the editor-in-chief's arse he could see out of his mouth, and people in charge do tend to listen to their yes-men who tell them everything's great rather than someone who's disagreeing and saying that things are about to go horribly wrong. This is especially prevalent in Japanese corporate culture.

>>135618361
Dayum, girl.

Is this drawn by one of the keyframers?

>>135618574
To the point that the chief editor doesn't even bother trying to talk to the mangaka? No.

>>135618652
Isn't that exactly what happened with Polarbear Café though?

It's definitely not normal, but it might happen.

>>135610319
HE'S ALREADY MARRIED GODDAMNIT

>>135618652
I don't believe it's that common for an editor-in-chief to go interviewing authors about matters like that every time someone complains about an editor. Even if the complaint is "this guy's making this project fall apart". (And for all we know, the editor-in-chief has plenty of other things/potential disasters on his mind.)

But in any case, in fiction a lot of things get exaggerated for comedic or dramatic effect. Did this get exaggerated a little too far? You think it did, I think it didn't. We may have to agree to disagree.

In almost every anime that has a DFC, there would be a running gag of how much that DFC is bothered by her lack of boobs. The absence of such gag in Shirobako actually made me wonder if Erika is confident about her own body.

>>135618842
Could be, and personally I like this. Every flat-chested girl having a complex about it does get a bit boring.

>>135608168
This. He brings money to the table even if Exodus sells poorly.

>>135618652
it's only a little unrealistic because the project was fairly big. cutting the author out of the loop seems a bit nonsensical.
shirokuma cafe wasn't that big. it probably wasn't that important to the publishers either.

also you have to realize that they are busy people. there may be other big or small projects they're doing at the same time. the chief editor can't look out for everything.

>>135616831
I want to quit a college and become a baker as well. I feel it's totally possible now.

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Left or Right?

>>135611287
You forgot
>Shirobako
>we respect our elders but strive to be better than they were
>we finally get shit done thanks to combining old guard's experience and newcomer's drive

WHY indeed

>>135619073
Right.
That body is meant to breed.

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I'm always here to remind you who the best girl is.

>>135619160
You are right, Emma is the best girl.

>>135619073
Left because Iguchi is moe moe.

>>135618972
Would the chief editor be also busy on other stuff? Of course. But it's an anime adaptation of their hottest selling manga. He wouldn't have brushed it off so carelessly.

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>>135617550
>wrong
Non non.
Everything went right.

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>>135618207
>claims to have good taste
>posts overlord
I can't handle all this irony.

Tokyo MX had marathon of Shirobako yestarday eps 7-24 aired between 9AM and 6PM
http://board.futakuro.com/jk2/res/2377546.htm
(previous 6 day earlier)

>>135616715
Takanashi is a guy you'll despise as a workmate/employee but would be bros outside of work.

>>135618972
>cutting the author out of the loop seems a bit nonsensical
That's the whole point. He was NOT suppossed to do that. ANd did that not to force his own vision (as some have done), but to slack and not worry working.

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How was your New Year's day, anonymous?

>>135618207
>deciding not to watch something means you have good taste

heh

>>135618536
>Well the average income is not as high as it is in the US or some other European countries.
This normal sallary is like 24 to 30,000 per annum over there

>>135617895
Holy shit.
Someone, presto, send that mangaka a cowboy hat of her own. She earned it.

One of the only characters I liked left early for another animation studio, that was Ochiai, even if he was completely irrelevant he seemed like a cool character.
Erika and Ema are miracles of the universe but the others are quite annoying especially the Mc.

Honestly the MC should have been someone more "exhausted" or "aloof" like Ema or Ochiai.

I'm at the episode 11 I think and honestly it can be pretty boring.

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>didn't watch it while it was airing
>remember that people were bitching about Tarou all the fucking time whenever a new episode aired
>actually watch the show last week
>Tarou is an absolute lad that I can actually identify with

I swear to fuck it was probably femanons hating on him or something.

Mii-chan a cutie.

Definetly not a boy. Cute girl.

>>135617128
Hahahaha, flat roastie spotted.
Out.

>>135618002
Erika is a goddess.

>>135620704
A huge portion of /a/'s population bases their opinion of a character on the things that they do rather than how entertaining or interesting they are. So every time Tarou fucked up somehow, there were a lot of /a/nons hating him for it.

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>>135619073
This is a hard question, but I prefer Segawa, because her motherlike personality.

>>135621244
Beta

>>135617736
>3D earning that much in Japan

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>>135617038
>Angel Beats

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>>135619160

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>>135619160

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Oi-chan is second best
Erika a best

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>>135621852

>>135620704
Tarou is the prime example of a character that started off as an annoying slacker and redeemed himself throughout the show by trying hard, even redeeming Hirako all by himself. He literally went from shit to based.

>>135620704
He was shit for most of the first cour, being completely useless and counter-productive, but by the second cour he was best girl.

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>>135621906
>that doujin with the teasing and grinding

>>135608293
>season 3 never

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>there are actually people here who didn't watch kurobako

>>135618137
I like this.

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>>135619645
You know the truth. I was drinking, watching anime, playing games.