Just watching this but I had to stop and make a thread.
>His goal is to literally protect everyone's smiles
>He actually does so
>It's best girl's smile
Is there a more based character than this guy?
>can't actually draw anything anymore
>still somehow employed
What a loser.
So is Oi-chan a virgin or not? I'm not a purityfag really but she seems so career obsessed that this scene seemed really out of place.
>Literally saves anime
>Even KAnno sucks his cock
Also can you make a girl smile like this? No you can't, so shut the fuck up.
>ZAWA ZAWA ZAWA ZAWAAAA
>The entire series and its various offshoots got cancelled
If I'm remembering right it was the best selling show of its season, though.
And since it was originally planned to be four cours instead of the two we got I wouldn't think a second season is too much to hope for.
Best character is pic related lad
I enjoyed Aoi's suffering.
I enjoyed all their suffering, Ema and Zuka particularly too.
naw, this faggot was worst. All the more satisfying when he got rekt
Literally no one can be as bad as Funny Story.
kantoku was best girl
>Old people are sooo dumb, your life ends after high school, youth is wonderful :^)
>Your elders are dank, you have a lot to learn even in your twenties
WHY is it that more anime can't do the latter?
Fucking Takanashi. I don't think I've ever gone from hating a character so much to loving a character so much.
You didn't post her sipping BestValu.
Well, it's better than sucking on the Salty D.
Me too. This show would have been fun to watch with /a/. I watched it in December and loved it.
Good post anon
The lesson is, if you work in the anime industry you will be forever alone, even if you are super sexy like this.
God damn those tits every time
Can anybody translate this already?
Who had the best suffering?
Let's cut out the middleman and get straight to the suffering.
Did y'all fellers watch the specials? Exodus and 3rd Girls Fighter Wing?
I wish I had seen the respective episode before each cour to get some idea what these shows they were producing were like.
It's funny the mangaka-sensei dude was rambling about the integrity of his psychological self-exploration when the show is pure fan service schlock. It's also scary to imagine guys like that may actually have that level of power over anime studios. Every series could end up like George Lucas with the Star Wars prequels where nobody could stop him.
had second-best suffering after Zuka-chan.
backgroundgirl. Man, what a great wasted design.
Just like there is only one George Lucas, there aren't many mangaka that have that kind of power. Most are at the mercy of the editors.
And the problem was caused by the editor, not the mangaka who was totally willing to talk.
And that's the part where it became a little too unbelievable for me. Anime studios would never bow down to a lowly editor. As soon as they realized the editor wasn't working with them they would've gone straight to the publisher and demand a new guy.
I prefer Zuka, cause I can understand how it`s painful - be unlucky with your job.
I'm digging through some old ass shit and found this
The best girl has turned into smug donut-stealing bitch. What went wrong?
No, they went to the chief editor when the project was already in disaster state. And chief editor brushed them off. Which made no sense, because the publisher got a lot of money riding on that project too, they would want to know if something is not working out.
>And that's the part where it became a little too unbelievable for me. Anime studios would never bow down to a lowly editor. As soon as they realized the editor wasn't working with them they would've gone straight to the publisher and demand a new guy.
I dunno about that. The issue is that ultimately the author calls the shots, but the editor acts as the intermediary between author and anime studio. When the intermediary is useless, you get problems. And it's not always (rarely? dunno) possible or practical to just go to the publisher and say "we don't like going through this guy, give us someone else to deal with". You have to do everything through the right channels, deal with the person in the position. Even if that person is a useless fuck.
"We won't deal with this guy" is more likely to get you the response "okay then, we won't do business with you" than it is "okay, here's someone different". It sucks, but that's the reality.
Yeah I found that bizarre too. The whole "unhelpful editor" thing seemed to be an extreme exaggeration of how frustrating it is to deal with a writer via proxy, and to get confusing instructions relayed second-hand from the original author. Those are things I could see being realistic. The whole "evil editor holding the keys to the kingdom and making the show fail" was pretty ridiculous.
That's assuming he has "make this show fail" as his goal, which he doesn't. He just wants to put in the absolute minimum effort possible, and doesn't give a shit what that means for anyone else. And don't tell me people like that are unrealistic, because I've worked with people like that.
>"We won't deal with this guy" is more likely to get you the response "okay then, we won't do business with you" than it is "okay, here's someone different". It sucks, but that's the reality.
No. It's a project that the publisher also invested in. The publisher would like to know ASAP if there are potential disasters. Of course normally they would prefer the reports come from their own editor, but if the studio think the editor is becoming a huge problem it's also their duty to let the publisher know. And publisher would really want to carefully examine the situation, unlike in the anime the chief editor just basically told them "tough".
>Wasn't this editor based on a pretty unpopular real person who then tried to defend himself on twitter?
dunno, but i think the whole thing was parodying the thing that happened with shirokuma cafe
Whether that character was actually based on anyone IRL was never confirmed. The rumor originated when that guy criticized the anime on the internet, which lead to fans speculating that maybe the editor character bothered that guy because it's hitting too close to home.
He said that because he doesn't want any alpha chads taking his waifu away
There's a couple of things to keep in mind. First is that the publisher was a bit dubious about the idea of letting MusAni adapt 3rd Aerial Girls Squad to begin with, given the studio's less than stellar past (ie Jiggly Jiggly Heaven). Second, especially given that, the editor-in-chief would tend to believe his own employee's account of events than someone from another company. It was only once the author told the editor-in-chief how useless the editor was being that he took any notice.
That the publisher is invested in the project isn't absolutely compelling above all other factors. Even if the anime were to fail, the publisher probably wouldn't come out at a loss on it. It succeeding would be more profitable and not having that would be worse than having that, but their primary concern is selling books, not scrutinising every detail of adaptations of all of their properties.
Does the way it played out still stretch plausibility at least a bit? Sure. But it is still plausible.
> mfw I skipped it
Never watched lucky star or k-on either
Feels good having good taste
How does this chart keep getting posted, it can't even be close to right.
How could someones full time salary be 9400? It makes no sense, you couldn't come close to living off that, its like 3rd world povery tier.
And 42500 for a Series Director? I almost earn that and I'm just a lowly IT guy.
>all the men in Shirobako are realistic, unflattering depictions of men in the industry
>all the women in Shirobako are cartoony, striped-leggings-wearing overdesigned moeblobs
So this is the result of women having their feelings tip-toed around, right?
Probably the best thing about this show not being yet another high school setting: they actually wear varied street clothes. And not the same thing every day, but also not a different outfit every single episode because they're poorfags.
Personally the thigh-high striped stockings were enough to tip me off to that.
>all the men in Shirobako are realistic, unflattering depictions of men in the industry
Kantoku was moe as fuck, even if he wasn't the most competent guy.
Honda was just generally competent and likable.
The old man was apparently a living legend even not-Anno respected.
I don't understand what any of those have anything to do with what I said.
You are not thinking like a businessman. Any potential profit they failed to get is considered a loss, even if the project was a net gain at the end.
And it wasn't some trivial matter that the studio went to the chief editor for. It was a brewing disaster. They wouldn't just simply take the editor's words for it, the chief editor would at least try to talk to the mangaka first.
> that one fanart pic where she is dressed as shimakaze
You know the one
Well the average income is not as high as it is in the US or some other European countries.
Even so, that chart is not to be taken seriously. It's way too exaggerated, on both ends.
Animators do get shitty pays but not that low. That's probably for someone that's still in trial period. And the salary for "A-list" voice actors is way too high. There is probably only one seiyuu with that kind of income, namely Mizuki Nana, and she can make that much money because she's also a pop singer.
And you're assuming that every company is run by people who ruthlessly examine everything on the basis of maximising gain, and are absolutely competent at that. In all probability, the editor had his nose so far up the editor-in-chief's arse he could see out of his mouth, and people in charge do tend to listen to their yes-men who tell them everything's great rather than someone who's disagreeing and saying that things are about to go horribly wrong. This is especially prevalent in Japanese corporate culture.
I don't believe it's that common for an editor-in-chief to go interviewing authors about matters like that every time someone complains about an editor. Even if the complaint is "this guy's making this project fall apart". (And for all we know, the editor-in-chief has plenty of other things/potential disasters on his mind.)
But in any case, in fiction a lot of things get exaggerated for comedic or dramatic effect. Did this get exaggerated a little too far? You think it did, I think it didn't. We may have to agree to disagree.
In almost every anime that has a DFC, there would be a running gag of how much that DFC is bothered by her lack of boobs. The absence of such gag in Shirobako actually made me wonder if Erika is confident about her own body.
it's only a little unrealistic because the project was fairly big. cutting the author out of the loop seems a bit nonsensical.
shirokuma cafe wasn't that big. it probably wasn't that important to the publishers either.
also you have to realize that they are busy people. there may be other big or small projects they're doing at the same time. the chief editor can't look out for everything.
>we respect our elders but strive to be better than they were
>we finally get shit done thanks to combining old guard's experience and newcomer's drive
I'm always here to remind you who the best girl is.
Everything went right.
>claims to have good taste
I can't handle all this irony.
>cutting the author out of the loop seems a bit nonsensical
That's the whole point. He was NOT suppossed to do that. ANd did that not to force his own vision (as some have done), but to slack and not worry working.
How was your New Year's day, anonymous?
One of the only characters I liked left early for another animation studio, that was Ochiai, even if he was completely irrelevant he seemed like a cool character.
Erika and Ema are miracles of the universe but the others are quite annoying especially the Mc.
Honestly the MC should have been someone more "exhausted" or "aloof" like Ema or Ochiai.
I'm at the episode 11 I think and honestly it can be pretty boring.
>didn't watch it while it was airing
>remember that people were bitching about Tarou all the fucking time whenever a new episode aired
>actually watch the show last week
>Tarou is an absolute lad that I can actually identify with
I swear to fuck it was probably femanons hating on him or something.
A huge portion of /a/'s population bases their opinion of a character on the things that they do rather than how entertaining or interesting they are. So every time Tarou fucked up somehow, there were a lot of /a/nons hating him for it.
This is a hard question, but I prefer Segawa, because her motherlike personality.
Tarou is the prime example of a character that started off as an annoying slacker and redeemed himself throughout the show by trying hard, even redeeming Hirako all by himself. He literally went from shit to based.
>that doujin with the teasing and grinding
>there are actually people here who didn't watch kurobako
You know the truth. I was drinking, watching anime, playing games.