>Chillin' out with the crew in the school yard
Ryo should have been his successor, fuck Majoume.
>BEWD spiritual succesor and Cybers broke the meta until Konami limited Cyber Dragon and banned Cyber Stein
>Near flawless win/loss ratio
>kicks Judai's ass and has never lost to him
>a little brother who he shits on
>had a loli craving his dick until he told her to fuck off and she went to Judai
>dumped his waifu for a better one when she betrayed him instead of going full autismo like Kaiba did.
>has the trenchcoat of gravity defying
>is the top duelist in the academy barring Judai
>is not a manlet
>TRASH CARDS including Ojamas and Armed Dragon
>is the youngest of brothers instead of being the older brother.
>Lost the Asuka bowl and the Rei bowl to Judai and Judai wasn't even competing since he was lusting after Johan
>always jobs to Judai
Ryo>Majoume, prove me wrong
How did Manjoume manage to use union or armed dragon with and ojamas and not brick?
I still remember the author's rage when konami made his other 2 dragons synchros. Especially because they are BAD synchros. like really bad. Light and Darkness Dragon, kinda sucks nowadays,too.
Manga and anime of any Yugioh series are always totally different.
I was obviously reffering to the anime of GX since Kaiba is only mentioned by name in the GX manga, never seen.
Also, Ryo kicked Majoume's ass in the manga so he's still better than him
Why didn't they ever make more of these new years greetings?
He had a ton of ideas left before the manga got nyxed. The Masked Heroes ace monster was suppose to be something special to Judai like Neos and Yubel are for his anime counterpart he finally got to at least show it in the SP1 duel chapter (Constrast Hero Chaos) But he never got the chance to draw the backstory for it. I assume he wanted to debut more masked heroes in that duel but Konami only gave him time for for 3 and due to how popular elemental heroes are, at least 1 of the new monsters had to be from that archetype, thus, Core was born,
Things may not of ended up like the dude wanted but he at least got to see manga judai's ace debut and become a real card. Even through it's practically unsummonable now. Even with Fusion Tag you''ll never be able to summon that fucking thing.
ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS
ONE OF THESE THINGS JUST DOESN'T BELONG
CAN YOU GUESS WHICH THING IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER THING
BEFORE I FINISH THIS SOOOOOONG?
you use this for anime
manga has 4-5 chapters so far, it has a new volume each month, they are completely different stories
Improving Phoenix's effect would no doubt be great. But even if it had no effect at all, simply being both an Entermate and an Odd-Eyes, that also has a pendulum summonable level, gives it a use by itself.
Longphone Bull needs something special though. If anything to simply differentiate it from Secondonkey somehow. As to not just make it the same thing but inferior which is how it seems to be looking now.
>you will never celebrate new year's with the Xyz trio
FUCKING BUY IT, IT;S GOOD FOR YOU.
What if Next year they devote a 45 set pack to making Elemental Hero Neos and Yubel good monsters? Poor Jay man, his is the only ace monster that can't do it's fucking job and his guardian is even worse.
I'M POSTING AMVS AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
I had to crawl through a ton of shit to find good ones
Am I the only one who wanted Dennis to go through much worse after revealing that he was basically the one who orchestrated Heartland's destruction and Ruri's kidnapping? The prick clearly didn't give a damn about that and just wanted to amuse himself no wonder he and Yuri get along so much
Bennis is probably going to get carded by Ruri or some shit.
Kid's a tragic character in that all he wants to do is ENTAME but he's being willfully ignorant of his role as the guy who sets people up to get Yuri'd.
He deserves to get wrekt.
>a lot of people actually saved my cereal boxes
Bless all you anons.
They're called the Kama BROTHERS for a reason, m8.
THERE'S NO CHANCE IN THE WORLD THAT A FEMENINE FIGURE LIKE KAMA 3 TO BE MALE.
KAMA 3 IS FEMALE ONLY
You know, Yusei may be a mega mongo bore but damn if I didn't enjoy watching him pull off that synchro solitarie with his graveyard. Why did none of his opponents ever attempt to lock that shit? Of all of Yusei's duels his graveyard was his greatest weapon. Too bad that like Yuma and Jaden, his gimmick often depleted his hand like a bitch.
That's what people said about III, even then he's still Zexals best girl.
Dark End was "decent" enough as a way to deal with Stardust since the effect sends instead of destroys,
and it was an expensive as fuck SJC Promo before it was mass released in magazines
KAMA 3 IS MY BELOVED LITTLE GIRL
SHE IS FEMALE ONLY
KAMA 1 AND 2 ARE HER BROTHERS, BUT SHE'S THE QT LOLI OF THE FAMILY.
Strangely, Manjoume beat Edo, and Edo beat Ryo. How does that work out?
Yugi's Magnet Warriors might as well be prototype contact fusions, and the VWXYZ monsters were the first official contact fusions, the latter of which were first used by Kaiba
You're gonna need to be more specific. Gary Shun has won a shit ton of duels.
>Yuya going beserk on the crowd, odd eyes rebellion dragon starts charging the beam attack it used in the 3rd OP
>This plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHU7K2mnVg
>Odd Eyes Rebellion Dragon's attack is stopped by Scarright's blind side punch, a tease for eago Yuya vs Jack.
Then the next episode starts and Jack and Yuya are separated before any more blows can be traded between the two before their fated duel.
I want it to happen, for god's sake make Jack do something already
>With two charcaters that haven't even properly met
Come on anon, you can do much better than that.
Which Magician Girl would you
study magic under?
>Rewatching episode because I can't fucking wait another week
>Sexy MONSTAH KOUKA HATSUDO from Yuri
REBERSE KADDO OPEN ENEMY KONTROLLA
FUCKING TOPSIES STEALING OUR BUDGET. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Number 37 and Number 38 are kinda good.
If you use Norden as material for Number 37 and 37 dies, you can revive Norden to revive the other material and overlay again.
Number 38 absorbs spells as material, redirects attacks to itself and acts as a CEO Armageddon for Xyz monsters.
>no arc-v today
today is sad day
Jesus Fudo >> Kurow
SHOUKO MAHOU HATSUDOU
RANK UP MAGIC
Does anyone find it strange how Yuma's Gagaga's are all spellcaster yet all of his cards are either warriors, look like warriors and the best xyz's he's used are warriors? Do they even want us to use this archetype because they can't summon shit very good for quickly. It might be better just running the gagaga magician, girl, head and guardna rather than wasting deck space on clerk,ceaser, child and sister.
>Yusei/Aki & Jack/Carly
>All top-tier pairings
>none of which become canon because it's a children's shounen anime purely for advertising trading cards
It hurts knowing they'll never get the closure they deserve
You don't. They have your heart for eternity.
>Japan gets 50 million pieces of YGO merch that make any ygo fan wet
>KoA sits with their dick in their hands thinking "why sell t-shirts and figures when we can make tons of fucking money off short printing rarity boosting every good card in every fucking set :^)^)^)))^)^)^"
Sucks to be in the west desu senpai.
Is there actual demand for it? I thought most YGO players in the west were fat neckbeards in their late teens/early twenties who hate the game they're playing.
But what does it mean?
Not really, but Cospa has so much good YGO shit that I want that they won't sell in the US, and that really bums me out. Although, given what you said about the YGO community being full of neckbeards and little kids who aren't into buying merch, I would see why they wouldn't expand their horizons.
Thankfully I'm not a fatass
FUCKING NOSTALGIA BULLSHIT TAKING OUR BUDGET, OUR PACKS, OUR VA AND EVEN OUR ERA, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Christ, how does Shinji pull this shit off without losing his voice?
Get out of my Laboratory!
Yugi and Jaden use decks completely centered around Dark Magician and Elemental HERO Neos.
Yusei,Yuma and Yuya use decks of their own archetypes with their aces acting as head liners or last resorts.
Course it could be because unlike the first two, the last three had their aces made in mind to be splashable into their decks. Junk can work fine without stardust, Syllables don't need Utopia and Preformapals definitely don't need Odd Eyes.
I'm pretty sure it'll only go up to 9, the scales and jet point in that direction
I fucking hate nofap January. I've been up since 8am and now it's 3 fucking am and I can't sleep because I'm too wound up in lust! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Number 39 Utopia vs Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon
Number 39 Utopia attacks then negates it's attack to trigger Double or Nothing!, then Double Tension is activated doubling the doubled attack up to 10000. But wait' there's more, Trap card activates, Fiery Fervor activates doubling the doubled doubled 10000 to 20000 BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE! Honest's effect activates doubling the doubling and doubling to 400000. You just got fucked. what do you have to say to that?
Yusei would counter that attack with his shield warrior, Jadne with necro guardna, Yugi with Kuriboh and Yuya with Performapal Barrier Ballon Baku. Yuma also has a shit deck that has no way of defending against backrow
I read that in Yuya's voice...oh god what have you done.
All 'Deskbot' monsters on the field gain 500 ATK & DEF. Once per turn: You can reveal any number of "Deskbot" monsters in your hand and shuffle them into the Deck, then draw cards equal to the number of cards you shuffled into the Deck. You can banish 9 'Deskbot' cards from your field and graveyard, including this card, and if you do; shuffle all cards in your opponent's graveyard, field, and hand to it's owner's deck.
Budget Deck trying to get serious.
>something in heaven was killed
It was Carly's soul wasn't it? She will never be omitted into the gates of heaven because she damned herself to hell by allowing herself to take in a demonic entity just to see the guy she liked again.
>unironically trying to watch the dub
He knew that Trapeze Magician would come back thanks to the card effect.
His reaction to Trapeze returning was really cute.
But i watched Zexal as it was airing
And I'll shamefully admit that i started with the dub of it because one Saturday morning the first dub episode was airing on tv and i had nothing better to do, even though i had gone my entire life before that not caring about Yugioh in the slightest
Then like twenty episodes in i just decided to watch everything over again subbed until i caught up to when Zexal II was just beginning and started watching it weekly
Same. It's not like Astral was gone forever compared to how Yusei and others went their own ways to pursue their futures and like how GX Judai left Duel Academia to explore the world. Plus In Zexal everyone was still together in the end rather than anyone leaving (Yuma and Co were going to help astral so that doesn't count as fully leaving them)
They would be shown by this summer.
I've checked its information from the anime studio when I succeed to hack the computer.
GX was the one that hit me the hardest emotionally due to I was their age and I had graduated high school two years prior but was reminded about all the people I left behind and how everyone was chasing their dreams. 5D's hit be hard because before I knew it, I was very much attached to those characters and I didn't want to see them go.
Zexal didn't give that feeling because it betrayed the message DM had set that the dead should remain dead. Yuma rewarped the universe into his own image and brought the Barians back after they were freed from their eternal suffering and may had moved onto the afterlife but nope, Yuma had to be a selfish dick and bind them to the earthly plain so he can live out his adolescence with them.
do your decks have themes, /a/?
>while enacting keikaku to win
>comboing out great magnas
plz no bully, she allowed yuya to defeat the power of BEES
Anybody got an Xyz background
Kinda like this one for Synchro
They are fucking annoying and other than the battle damage boost that they pretty much all do, each of them does something else completely random. I suppose this confirms 009, unless they want you to actually use Jet, but why would they make a field spell and not include any monsters for it.
Those are my YGOPro songs, I play various decks. Mostly Raid Raptors though.
The Atem and Yusei fusion doesn't look too bad...
What happens when their thighs collide in a high-impact sexual situation?
They die and new thighs take over
Reminder that Puddingcess is LITERALLY perfect.
>Reminder that cardfus are LITERALLY perfection.
>Yusei,Yuma and Yuya use decks of their own archetypes with their aces acting as head liners or last resorts.
>Head liners or last resorts
Have we been watching the same series? The same series where Yuma has set on UTOPIA for whole entire duels?
Northwemko now is a lot weaker with Releaser AND Chain banned, and no, Master Key protect other cards and can send them to the graveyard if he is about to get killed. Northwemko can be protected from effect destruction while other "chosen ones" cards are face-up.
Also I am considering on buying either a structure deck of Master of Pendululm or a SpeedRoid engine for her, what should work better?
>aces acting as headliners or last resorts
nigger, his deck revolved around shitting out utopia and protecting the fuck out of it. around 95% of his duels somehow revolved around getting out utopia and either ranking it up or using some combo to make it win.
>tour guide banned
My possibilities are really limited now, I still use some of them and I know Pre-Preparations will come but until now I decided that I will try to add an engine.
What's the longest duel you've ever been in/watched?
28 is the longest one I've seen.
Last one that comes to mind was a Blue-Eyes mirror that lasted 30 turns.
It was hilarious because our hands were at 0, then I drew Priest, my opponent drew Priest too, next turn I drew Maiden, he drew Maiden too.
And then my 3rd draw as shit so I suicided Priest on Priest and summoned Maiden, he topdecked Gospel next turn and won.
Played number 92 with metaion, lvl eater and galaxy queens light. Turn 21 I got one metaion on hand and one in deck. Kept cycling between the two till my opponent decked out. He could do nothing.
What the shot are you talking about? DED was great. It was a national price card. The sending part was great. It could destroy a stardust by battle, another send a scrap dragon to the grave.
If you think LaDD is bad in ANY format, you are a normie and need to leave now
Maybe should mention that because of my necroface and leviar our decks got refilled and kept it all going to turn 56
Forgot that there was no buddyfight episode this week either.
Buddyfight is shitty so it's okay
>50+ turns, emulating Over the Nexus
Those fucking Cloudians
Why is the original manga so fucking good? Why do people only go on about the first part of it and ignore the rest like it doesn't matter when it's just as good?
Why do people act like Season 0 and Duel Monsters are good adaptations?
Why do people still watched dubbed Yugioh? Why do people still watched
The Abridged series?
I just don't understand.
we were in unlimited and we were both playing shit decks, opponent was playing a some really bad yubel deck and I was playing some marik structure deck with a couple of extra shit in there sense this was back when I was still new and thought 60 card decks were good and all kinds of other noob shit you would see on a low rated duelist video. Long story short the battle ended with me using Temple of the King + Mystical Beast of Serkit to make Majestic Star Dragon and win the game.
Nothing special. Was banning to boost no. 92 and he was stope. So I used leviar to get back necroface and that sent back all our banned cards to our decks. But he had messager of peace so necroface could not atk and he could not atk over it. Kept going till I had 2 metaion in hand and deck that can not be destroyed by battle and get sent back to the deck on my next turn. Kept cycling those two to turn 72 (wrote 56 by mistake) where he decked out.
I watched dubbed still because its what I grew up on and from what I can gather the sub doesn't offer a better experience at all, if not it seems worse (YES I tried but did you hear Yugi and Kaiba's voices? So retarded in the Japanese version and Joey just isn't as loveable).
With that said I didn't watch 5D's or Zexal so IDK how good or bad their dubs are but I heard they are bad series anyway so it doesn't really matter...
I watch abridged because it's really funny, LK is a genius (its where I heard about 5D's and Zexal from too) and it just makes Yugioh really a lot more enjoyable like >>135620862 says too Dartz is really funny and I laugh everytime he's there.. it's just a super special awesome series and might even be better then the real thing.
Not interested in the manga cause I don't like to read but that's just me and Season 0 was really good, dunno what you're talking about. Are you just a mega contrarian or something?
Alright boys OTP time.
>and from what I can gather the sub doesn't offer a better experience at all
>but did you hear Yugi and Kaiba's voices? So retarded in the Japanese version
>LK is a genius - and it just makes Yugioh really a lot more enjoyable
>it's just a super special awesome series and might even be better then the real thing
>Not interested in the manga cause I don't like to read
Can we please just nuke these threads?
>All throughout Zexal Yuma's strag was to sit on Utopia and evolve it as needed. negating anything that could destroy it.
How the hell is he gonna play without it now? Utopia future doesn't have any attack power it just takes another's monsters.
He'll unleash a new boss monster, Gagagaogaigar
Some contratian would just create another one.
I mean I'm pretty sure mods tried nuking Yahari threads last year and it didn't work at all.
I think it's fair to not like Atem's, at least at the beginning of Duel Monsters. He does grow into it a bit by Battle City but it's definitely not the best at the beginning.
Still better then Dan Green though. Not as good as Megumi Ogata either, only S0 voice they should have kept though Bakura's S0 voice was okay too.
Reiji sucks at disguising his soldier-recruitment-drive as an international children's card game.
At least he should have implemented a rule to make sure such shit doesn't happen to little kids.
And then immediately pull the people who broke the rule into his army of duelists so their physical combat skills could be used in better ways.
>Bring a gun into an international duel tournament
>Shoot your opponent in the head at the beginning of the action duel
>Win by default because opponent is dead
>Become champion by constantly shooting teenagers in the head
reberu ni kara nana no monsuta ga douji ni shoukan kano!
>threw her into a building
>she's fine a few hours later
truly best boy
Everything is possible once the series are over. Who knows, maybe those two end up marrying and fucking like crazy rabbits with 2 or 3 kids
Almost every thread until Dennisfag is carded.
>When the duel is even or hasn't became one sided.
>When I'm winning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaztTuTKs8 Or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ieZ6qQ9818
> When on the defensive getting ready for a comeback
Its worth for the extra push. Also the potential to reset the opponent's entire game to a one card in his next draw is worthy of consideration. Deskbots already have a lot of search & recover but the pendulums sometimes make hands difficult. A themed re-usable reload pays for itself.
Dimensional couples you ask? Dimensional couples you get.
Didn't Kaz confirm that they were just friends in that Gospel of Truth book? I remember something about them having feelings but not acting on it.
He's clearly a homosex with Johan or Yubel
>Yusei/Aki & Jack/Carly
Anybody who doesn't want this to be canon either doesn't watch 5ds or is a huge yaoi fag. Jack and Carly and Yusei and Aki were the best couples in the entire series except Yugi and Anzu.
Didn't Droite love Kaito more? Way to get cucked by Kaiba with cancer Droite.
Here's Red-eyes that I use. Chicken game helps to draw out key cards quickly
>Yusei and Aki
The only time that wasnt completely one sided was when Martha teased Yusei about her
>Shun has green hair and yellow eyes
>Ruri has black/purple hair and pink eyes
>Kotori has green hair and yellow eyes
>Yuma has black/pink hair and pink eyes
Ruri and Shun confirmed for being Yuma and Kotori's children?
What can I say, I love the piano and violin bits to death. Really makes me feel like a main character when playing with my pet decks or something like Odd Eyes Magician deck.
Also, isn't it funny how they are named from the one that has not even had a line yet?
>Yuma has black/pink hair and pink eyes
>Akari has red/pink hair and purple eyes
>Aki has pink hair and brown eyes
>Yusei has black/yellow hair and blue eyes
>Kotori has green hair and yellow eyes
>Rua and Ruka have green hair and yellow eyes
Yuma and Akari confirmed for Yusei and Aki's children? Kotori confirmed for the incest lovechild of Rua and Ruka?
>tfw Yusei realises he is the father of the worst YGO protagonist of the worst YGO series ever.
yuzu, but serena's been growing on me
Why is it so hard for people to grasp that Yugioh has sameface and recycles character designs? Why do people have to assume that characters that look alike are related to each other?
Look at Jounochi and Shizuka, Kaiba and Mokuba, Isis and Malik, Fubuki and Asuka, Majoume and his brothers and Yuma and Akari, they're related to each other but look almost nothing alike
Their parents were so irrelevant I forgot they even existed.
>Shun and Ruri Kurosaki
In hindsight, unless Yuma randomly changed his surname to Kurosaki because reasons, then married and fucked Kotori (why her? III and Anna exist), it would be impossible for Shun and Ruri to have parents from a past series.
Kotori's got better odds being Shun and Ruri's cousin than she does being their mother.
she hasn't even mastered the basics of cqc
>Yuma "Astral means everything to me" Tsukumo
Definitely. Unless they randomly had anti-Fusion cards (which they didn't), Serena would have OTK'd all three with either Cat Dancer or Panther Dancer.
If Obelisk Force wasn't packing Fusion hate back in episode 48, she would OTK'd them with her 4800 ATK Cat Dancer. Though considering it was their mission to get Serena, it makes sense those guys would have Fusion support. Security are much weaker than Obelisk Force from results alone.
And now we know where Shun got the Rank-Up Magics from and why Yuto doesn't get them.
>why Yuto doesn't get them.
We only saw 3 of Yuto's main deck monster and 2 xyz's wait til he gets the hell out of Yuya and gets to duel on his own before that. Still, when he does get out, he's going to get his dragon back, So what's Yuya gonna be using for his own xyz plays?
To be fair, if I was inside Yuya I wouldnt want to leave either
Yugi is second worst protagonist and second worst YGO series. Obviously Yuma is the worst protagonist with the worst YGO series.
Yuya > Judai > Yusei > Yugi > Yuma
ARC-V > GX > 5Ds > DM > ZEXAL
You could swap GX and 5Ds and it makes little difference. I personally like Judai since he was basically a proto-Yuya, except without the waifu thirst and doesn't suffer as frequently as Yuya did. The Kaiba vs Almelda rematch ontop the plane was interesting in my opinion but that because I'm bias in favour of Kaiba.
To be fair. KCGP arc is filler and only like 10 episodes. I have lower standards for filler, especially short filler so I wasn't expecting glorious animation from that arc anyway. DOMA was overrated since the only good things was Yugi losing to Rafael and the Berserker Soul moment.
Though Kaiba vs Siegfried is literally the only good duel in the entire KCGP arc, and while its one of my favourite DM duels, it doesn't save the fact KCGP was shit overall.
It'll be plenty hetero if he wears a skirt
>Rank-up Magic - Raid Force = Rank-up Magic Limited Barian's Force + Return Rank-up
>Rank-up Magic - Raptor's Force = Necro Chaos
>Rank-up Magic - Revolution Force = Rank-up Magic Quick Chaos + Destiny Overlay + xyz revenge
>Rank-up Magic - Skip Force = Rank-up Magic Astral Force
>Rank-up Magic - Double Death Force = Rank-up Magic - Admiration of the Thousands
All Shun needs is Hyper Rank-up Magic - Ultimate Force, Double Rank-up Magic - Light force and Dark force, Rank-down magic - Hope fall and Rank-up Magic - The Seventh one to complete the Zexal references
If Yusei wasn't Card Game Jesus, and actually lost once in a while (like Yuya or even Judai), he'd be best protagonist in my opinion. Its not a case of Yuya being best, but more that Yugi and Yuma suck. Judai is meh until season 3, and Yusei is good if you ignore the fact he is Card Game Jesus.
I feel like if 5Ds didn't fuck up, it would have been better than ARC-V by far. Part 1 of 5Ds was going so well and 5Ds had the potential to be the best YGO series... then it got killed by sex cults, BUY BLACKWINGS, Yusei being Card Game Jesus, and Aki/Rua/Ruka being almost completely irrelevant to the Yliaster plot until the end.
If ARC-V goes the way it is going from episode 88 onwards, then it will end up being the best series. However there is still a chance ARC-V could get fucked at some point to tie with 5Ds, or go down to 2nd.
I think its 26.
It's the episode Yuya creates Beast Eyes Pendulum Dragon and tells Gongenzaka he managed to do that because of Yuzu's hint. God lord the eyes they made at each other in the Standard arc were ridiculous
Genderswapped yuzu and yuya would be great.
>early episodes are mostly yuzu suffering trying to keep this retarded tomboy under control and stopping her from doing really stupid shit.
>yuya constantly pouting about yuzu stopping her from having fun
>If Yusei wasn't Card Game Jesus, and actually lost once in a while
HE LOST TO KIRYU
>b-but the duel wasn't finished
NO YOU RETARDED MEMER
HIS BIKE BROKE WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO TAKE A DIRECT ATTACK THAT WOULD WIPE HIS LIFE POINTS AND HE HAD NO OUTS TO THAT AT ALL
HE LOST THAT DUEL, NO BUTS ABOUT IT
Not that anon, but that kinda makes him even more of a Stu. The only duel he would've lost was stopped in the middle, thanks to his bike breaking down, so technically Jesus Fudo didn't lose.
>The only protagonist which is the headliner of Yugioh and the only person Konami recognizes as good enough to help advertise the cards.
>The only protagonist to have never lost a duel in the manga and in the anime if DOMA is rightly ignored.