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Does /a/ still care for Raildex?
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Does /a/ still care for Raildex?
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>>121439900
>Raildex
Is this a newfag thing?
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>>121440023

Can't tell if joking, or new.
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>>121440023
>Raildex
>New
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>>121439900
Kind of. Especially whenever a new volume comes out. Too bad the anime is dead.
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>>121440085
The Railgun Manga any good?
I kinda hate Manga but its not like were getting a Season 3 of anything any time soon
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>>121440023
Seems so. Any anime made after 2000 is for newfags.
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BEST GIRL
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Yes but all the recent threads have gone to shit pretty fast thanks to faggots like Stiyl spammer.
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>>121439900
NT9 and NT10 Touma best Touma.
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>>121440112
>I hate manga
fuck off
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>>121439900
I will always care for it as long as my waifu exist.
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>>121440795
I physically cant just sit down and read Manga
When I watch Anime I usually am drawing or exercising at the same time
That way it doesnt feel like im wasting my days
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Season 3, when?
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>>121440870
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>>121440941
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The best.
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>>121440957
I want to punch saber.
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>>121440913
Then you probably have some serious ADHD problem. Go and see a doctor.
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https://twitter.com/mahayang0128/status/568010503412252673
https://twitter.com/mahayang0128/status/567665078313291778
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Yeah I guess so.
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>>121440957
King of Cucks pls go and stay go.
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>>121440991
I want to punch Saber's womb with my cock.
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>>121440051
>>121440061
>>121440126
Wow.
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>>121441054
I want Saber to punch my dick with her mouth
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>>121440870
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>>121440051
>>121440061
>>121440126

Get the fuck out.
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How can the LN and manga be so popular yet new anime isn't being made?
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>>121441539
Blame the publisher.
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>>121441539
Because LN and manga are popular. In Japan anime adaptations are just advertisement for original work.
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>>121441539
Not enough material
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>>121439900
LN is in March, so we are in the waiting.
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>>121441539
it is too popular and doesn't need the ads, plus index anime doesn't sell super well. probably because the adaption is shit.
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>>121440940
What will get a S3 first? Haruhi or Index
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>>121441632
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>>121441649
Season 2 had an average of 17k. That's not bad, and more than your average LN adaptation.
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>>121441632
>Index S3
More than enough material, anime sells extremely well and new LN is coming soon. I see a it being announced sometime this year.
>Railgun S3
Enough material for maybe 6-10 episodes if they wait 2 years we might get s3, only thing holding it back is waning popularity and mediocre sales boost. Such is the curse of having such good source material.
>Accelerator
Maybe within the next 3-4 years. Maybe.
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>>121441829
>>Railgun S3
>Enough material for maybe 6-10 episodes
You know that's enough for Nagai. That means he can do another one of his great anime-original arcs with the rest of the episodes.
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>>121441864

>That means he can do another one of his great anime-original arcs with the rest of the episodes.

pls no
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>>121441829
>More than enough material, anime sells extremely well and new LN is coming soon. I see a it being announced sometime never
FTFY
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>>121441876
Come on anon we haven't seen Saten beating magicians up yet
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>>121441864
>negative reaction towards the fillers in japan
>sales went down during fillers
>cute girls doing cute things is not what the fanbase is about
When otaku's talk shit about your series, you better fucking listen no matter what /a/ sais.
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>>121441876
I watch that only for cute girls doing things so I don't really mind 14 episodes of fillers.
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>>121441912
Wow why is Uriharu such a asshole
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>>121441946
>season 1, which is half filler sold 24k
>season 2, with a much darker tone sold <17k

Yeah sure, backlash over the filler
>>121441965
m8
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>>121440913
>Exercising
>on /a
Yeah right, you have a stable job too?
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>>121442008
The 2nd half of S2 really felt like filler.
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>>121442045
Unemployed for 5 months now
But Im lookin
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>>121442064
So was the second half of S1
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I love the Raildex series and I want to pick up the LN's. However I'm a slow reader and my mind slips away while reading a lot, even when I find what I am reading interesting.

Now given that I've watched both seasons of both index and railgun + the movie and manga:
Would it be worth it for me to bare with the earlier novels that the Animu/Mango already covered? Should I just skim through them or should I try to get my shit together to make sure I don't miss any details that the manga/anime doesn't really cover?

>mfw I have to read every 2nd paragraph twice because I keep on losing focus

Note: I suppose I should just straight up mention that I've gotten myself diagnosed for ADHD and was told that I am, in fact, not a spastic. I just have the attention span of a goldfish apparently. Although they where never really clear about that part.
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Best wife
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>>121442169

Skip to Vol 11.
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>>121442169
>and manga:
Index or Railgun?

>Would it be worth it for me to bare with the earlier novels that the Animu/Mango already covered?
Yes. Some more than others. Volumes 2, 4, 5, 6, and 13, for instance. You can pretty much skim through the others as they're almost the same as the anime and/or not too important
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>>121441952

But it is uninspired and shitty SoL of cute grills doing cute grill things. Nobody would care if Nagai actually gave a shit and made good filler that actually made sense in the setting and had meaningful interaction outside of "WOW I LOVE RICE COOKERS THIS CAKE SURE IS TASTY".

I mean come the fuck on man, look at what he has to work with. Why not Focus on Kongou and Kuroko quarreling at school? Why not have an episode where a Misaka clone takes the place of Mikoto and none of her friends notice much? Why not more ITEM schenanigans with the Railgun Team? Or holy shit, why not animate the Railgun SS1 LN, which was literally a canon version of cute grill SoL in skimpy swimsuits with crazy aztec magic fuckery thrown in?

But no, we get a shitty and generic loli, people being grossly out of character, completely retarded plot points, and Saten some how defeating super advanced war machines with a fucking bat. The SoL was fucking shit, and I really don't understand why anyone happily gobbles it up when anyone who gave half a fuck could write SoL 10 times more interesting and dynamic than was what presented.
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>>121442231

Manga it would be best to just go railgun while for Index just stay LN's.
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>>121442119
>Frenda
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>>121442271
>Why not Focus on Kongou and Kuroko quarreling at school?
Kongou shouldn't have been there to begin with
>Or holy shit, why not animate the Railgun SS1 LN, which was literally a canon version of cute grill SoL in skimpy swimsuits with crazy aztec magic fuckery thrown in?
Because then he'd have to animate Saten getting the short end of the stick and Nagai can't do that to his waifu

Dude should take some professionalism classes from the Index manga artist, who had to fucking skip his waifu's arc.
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>>121442231
>Index or Railgun
Both. Sorry should have been more clear about that.

>>121442231
Thanks anon.
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>>121442343

>Kongou shouldn't have been there to begin with

Granted, I was going off Nagai's timeline. But it brings the point across nonetheless.

>had to fucking skip his waifu's arc.

And then he had to draw her being blown up. Poor Chuuya ;_;
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>I am slowly getting hyped for the next volume

I am expecting Othinus adventures with Touma.
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>>121440870
How much of her shit does Touma has to clean up in order for her to realized that she burden to him.
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>>121442473

GET HYPED YOU FUCKER. >>121442508

Though my hype dies when i see Index any time.
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>>121441014
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>still no new raildex episodes

I'M MAD.
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>>121441014
lessar
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>>121442169
>I can't read for reasons and I'm going to blog about how special it is
I lost my mind every time I see people like that. It's fantasy garbage for 12 years old and not some fucking Ulysses. If you have so much trouble then ask your mom to read it for you.
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>>121442863
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>>121442271
Goddamn, the SoL stuff in Railgun is so lame.

It could have been interesting, with Saten and Uriharu being completely oblivious to the shit that Misaka has to deal with, and Flat McLesbian suspecting things.

One moment Misaka is bawwwing her eyes about because the 6 million cloneocaust caused by the Nazcellerators, and the next moment she's all like "MUH FREPE PANCAKE THINGIE!"
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Purple is my way of life.
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>>121442271
>wanting more of nagai kongou
i will fuck you m8
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Who cares, Accelerator is the only good character.
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>>121442762
did any of new lights individual magic accessories do anything? i remember the one girl's wings being able to glide/fly but i don't remember the rest ever being used.
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>>121441829
>Enough material for maybe 6-10 episodes
You can include LAC and Daihaseisai is longer then 10 episodes.
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>>121442952

I was envisioning manga Kongou when I posted, my apologies.
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>>121442762
>non-canon body proportions
Lessar is sexy but not like that.
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>>121443661
>thinking they will ever adapt any of side story novels for index or railgun
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>>121443785
I can dream.
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>>121440575
I think Stiyl spammer is trying to counter-act him. I'd prefer no-spam, but at least Stiyl's isn't with malicious intent.
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>>121443910
I like Stiyl, I think he's a funny guy. His posts are always on-topic and bump the threads which are rare recently so I don't mind him
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>>121444001
I agree, it's really not too bad.
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>2015
>to Aru Medikaru no Gan
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>>121441008
different anon but i have serious adhd and i read manga more than watching animu. i think that anon is a literal faggot.
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>you will never bring mikoto on a roadtrip across the American west in an old Mercury
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>>121441008
what has that to do with ADHD? ADHD is if he couldn't concentrate on the anime. I have ADHD and have problems with exactly that. he just doesn't want to waste time, which is understandable. I might try this out as well, sounds like a great idea to work out while watching anime.
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>>121444164
at first it sounded promising, but what the fuck does this mean "to someone you don't understand"?
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index is so fucking annoying. her fucking animalistic behaviour is not fucking cute at all

>hur dur touma i want to eat hur dur

i fucking hate her the most from the whole anime
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>>121444506
She could have been a good character but for some reason he does not develop her at all. Shes had no development since the first arc.
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Why did they do this to the last arc? it was like the worst arc of entire raildex
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>>121442184
I want to teach her the ways of bdsm.
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But seriously, JC Staff needs to get on that shit. Look at Durarara, the hype has completely died down because of the 5 year gap and now no one is interested in it, both here and in Japan.

If they let that happen to one of their biggest cash cows they're fucking retarded.
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>>121439900
Biribiri was cool when she was new and fresh.
Now, she is just waifuwhore.
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>>121440023
To be fair to the fags you did it wrong.
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>>121442508
That mini-Othinus HNNNG
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>>121444825
nagai thought sisters arc was too gloomy
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>>121442271
oh quit your bitching

the anime only sol stuff was much better executed that the total failure of implementation which was the sisters arc

not sayin I dislike sisters arc, but the anime execution fucking sucked. boring repetitive filler battles that lasted several episodes, biribiri channeling batman ala christian bale (re: muh brood)

it fucking sucked to see a story you already know told so badly

the sol anime only stuff was at least new and endearing
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>>121444953
At least he directed it well.
I still get goosebumps when I rewatch episode 05.
Shit was TOO GOOD.
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>>121444978
Are you fucking serious?
The Railgun Sisters' arc was the best adaptation of anything Raildex related.
Hell, some parts were better in the anime than in the manga.
Talk about shit taste.
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>>121444978

It's amazing how wrong a person can be.

Also,

>new and endearing

Blathering on about the same fucking tasty food and ricecookers. Wow, that sure is new and endearing.
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>>121444256
>You will never make Mikoto a cowboy by making her ride your stallion
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>>121445462

>That Misaka is a lot like her mother, getting drunk after "losing" Touma as if he was hers in the first place, and would've probably jumped at Hamazura's dick if she bumped into him

Man, I wish we could actually see Mikoto drunk at some point.
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>>121445462
>>121445494
Well, it was a nice thread while it lasted.
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>>121445462
>>121445494
>>121445541

Haha, you're slacking off nigger. What's wrong? Losing steam?
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>>121445557

It's still a nice thread just ignore him/filter him.
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>>121445557
Or you could filter spam and report.
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Where is he now?
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>>121445541
Touma is mad handsome
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>>121445702
He ascended
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Rail? No. Dex? Yes. >implying s3
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>>121445702
He became the Lolinator.
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The LN is tl;dr so i'm just waiting stupidly for more adaptations
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>>121445052
>Hell, some parts were better in the anime than in the manga.

They even went out of their way to include some of the LN and omake material to make it flow better. It's too bad the first ep and the seventh ep break the immersion so badly. It could have been great as a single cour season with the fluff filler cut out.
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>>121446573
If you don't have the basic patience needed to read a book this series is not for you
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>>121445021
>I still get goosebumps when I rewatch episode 05.
>Shit was TOO GOOD.
same here bruh.
>dfw haven't watched an anime that good yet
>all the animes which have even better rating on MAL don't give me goosebumps at all
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>>121439900
Of course. Did you have to ask?
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Kuroko ruined Railgun.
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>>121446553
Nice Tumblr gif.
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>>121446573
If they wait much longer, a Shana Final type season is about all we can really hope for. I can't imagine anyone being happy with that.
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>>121444506
>>121442600
Index is love, Index is life.
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Isn't there a new volume in the works?
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>>121446838
She is easily one of my favorite characters in the franchise. Nagai takes the lesbian gag routine a bit too far, though.
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>>121447041
Comes out soon. A new magic god and Shiage is possibly relevant for the first time since 2011
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>>121446824
>MAL ratings
There's your problem
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>>121447095
Not far enough. I wont be happy until Kuroko has Miskas child.
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>>121444825
>why would JC Staff add filler
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>>121447095
I want Kuroko to die a horrible death.
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>that one guy on youtube with an account called Misaka Mikoto that replies on fucking every video on youtube

Autism?
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>>121447269
Teenagers just have a lot of time on their hands.
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Is it really so hard to ask for more adaptions of my favorite series?
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>>121447269
>Having youtube comments enabled
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>>121447214
If she's Misakasexual, maybe she'll fall for Tabigake. The guy seems to embody the same "fuck the police" attitude his daughter has.
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>>121447266
Not appearing in the novels anymore is probably a worse fate than death.
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>>121447214
Kuroko will NEVER be anything more than a gag character. NEVER EVER.
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>>121446824
Satou Rina's voice acting was also great.
She even won the VA award that year.
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>>121445702

He went to the con with the girls but was met by 100 Toumas. You know, THOSE Toumas. The Kuroko Vision Toumas.
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>>121447266
kuroko is already dead in the novels
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>>121447489
>>121447380
I know, but that isn't enough. I want her to die officially, and then have Misaki or Kongou replace her as Mikoto's roommate.
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>>121447398
Her performance in Index's Sisters arc isn't too shabby either. That scream when she unleashes on Touma in episode 12 gives me the chills every time.
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>>121447266
I want to eat her ass out while I fuck mikoto
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>>121447767
Agreed.
But she did get better with time.
>>121447847
And that pee isn't going inside my mouth.
Why even live?
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I wish I could live in the Raildex universe.

I wish I could spend the rest of my life with Mikoto.
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>>121448080
I want to be a cute loli and follow Accelerator around bugging him for treats.
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>>121447214
She will have Touman's child.
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>>121448118
I think I would rather be Miskaks token loli sidekick. Shes really kind to girls. I also think that a loli could get away with groping Misakas tits, where Kuroko gets zapped.
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>>121448118
This, that and studying to learn how to shoot fire out of my hands sounds like a way better payoff than to learn to calculate integrals or whatever else
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>>121448239
/a/, please...

>not going for the huge nun beachballs

Baptise me and call me a Catholic, brother.
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There's something about that page from the railgun manga where Mikoto says she uses Gekota shampoo because it doesn't burn her eyes that I find highly appealing
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>>121447338
She is full lesbian. Got turned on by Kanzaki in a side novel if I remember right.
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>>121448465
Well, Kanzaki is pretty much perfect so nothing wrong with that.
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>>121447537
I still have suspicions about the relationships between the Tokiwadai girls. Neither Kamachi, Fuyukawa or Nagai has ever touched directly upon the subject of how Kuroko and Mikoto actually became friends. I feel like there's a major plot twist there with Misaki at the center of it. Kuroko's obsession with Mikoto is literally at its peak while Misaki is deeply suspicious of her, but the two suddenly drift apart as Misaki more directly interacts with Mikoto and warms up to her in her own twisted way. There's not enough evidence to say Kuroko was actually being manipulated by Misaki, but it would certainly explain a whole lot.
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>>121448319
>beachballs tits

Thats disgusting. I would have to bath in those very baptismal waters every day to get the unholy stench of lard from my body.
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>>121448518
I always thought that Kuroko was just so obsessed that she threatened Mikoto's original roommate. After all, she isn't even in the same fucking grade as Mikoto.
>>121448559
I'm okay with that, I don't deserve her attraction like Touma does.
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>>121448080
Pray you have an ability that counters electric shocks, or she won't even acknowledge you.
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>>121448609
grounded haubert
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>>121448607
Well, yeah. But they never explain why she is so obsessed. Even her journal entries in the omake section of the manga seem to paint the picture of someone going through some kind of unusual and sudden bipolar disorder.
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Is it ever explicitly said what determines the ability of an Esper?
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>>121448912
The strength of their Personal Reality from what I can gather. So the more they believe in the reality that they overwrite onto the world the larger the effects from it would be. I could be offbase though
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Still the second worst fanbase in all of /a/ after the [email protected] fags
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>>121449011
I meant more along the lines of "What determines if I'm an electromaster, aero-Hand, teleporter, ect."

unless what you said is an answer to that question, in that case it's pretty ambiguous.

It has to do with DNA too, I think. All of the Sisters are electromasters and they all share the same DNA as Mikoto.
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>>121448912
Aleister goes on something of a tangent about it in volume 2 while talking to Stiyl. It can't be anything physical, as Kakine (and to a lesser extent, Mugino) prove a level 5 ability can persist even if the body is destroyed. I would assume its a projection of ones own soul.
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>>121449115
I think its moot, if you were to find your self in that world you would be better off going the magic rout and learning magic that lets you nullify electricity. Its more work but you have a better chance to success. You would also need to practice public speaking so you could make better on the fly speeches than Touma if you want to win her heart.
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>>121449115
I thought you meant ability as in utility/power. For what the power itself is I would say that you are at some level correct that your DNA map would at some level at least predispose you to what kind of power you would receive. I don't think which power you get was ever discussed at any length though so it's anyone's guess.
>>121449198
As the anon above you said though, every Sister got electromaster so it would imply it's at least somewhat influenced by your DNA, unless you're about to tell me clones have cloned souls from the original as well
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>>121449041
No, naruto, AoT and KlK are worst fanbase.
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>>121448518
There's a scene somewhere in the manga that shows Kuroko's diary over the course of the first month or so after enrolling. She started out hating Mikoto because she thought she was stuck up and then after seeing her act heroic in a couple of situations her final entry is something along the lines of "I LOVE ONEE-SAMA."
Evidently she kicks Mikoto's roommate out and moves in, which gets them both in trouble so they have to clean the floors which brings them together as friends.
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>>121449221
Just because we only see the success stories of the magicians doesn't mean it should be easier to learn magic than to get an esper power I should think, I'll bet you they have all sorts of level 0s just like AC does.
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>>121449317
Thats not that point. The point is its a complete lotto if you get a power that will nullify electricity. If you get something useless like the power to slit leaves, then you are stuck with it. The magic side lets you focus your training with a goal in mind, there is no lotto.
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Hijacking thread for this question: does anyone have Index light novels from baka-tsuki in epub format? I would highly appreciate sharing, as it so happened that they are now pulled off since Yen Press apparently licensed those, and I used BakaReader to read so I have saved none.

Please share. Pic related mfw.
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>>121449198
I don't think it can be something that can or will be explained either. If it were the projection of souls, would that imply that two level 3 teleporters are the same in some way?
>>121449221
Yeah, but then I'd probably never end up in Academy City.
I'm sure if I somehow ended up as an Esper in AC I probably wouldn't have the guts to talk to her. I guess I can always join Judgement and try to be useful somehow.
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>>121449260
>unless you're about to tell me clones have cloned souls from the original as well

Well the sisters clearly state they have borrowed minds. Plus it was already revealed in NT4 that Kiharas know how to access and manipulate what we would consider a soul.
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>>121449402
You're of course assuming you're lucky enough to ever discover magic exists in the first place, the statistics are about the same I would expect, not to mention if this is with the goal of being closer to Mikoto in mind, one of those options places you in the same city as her and the other places you square against being normally allowed in her city.
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>>121449198
There IS a physical part, otherwise the Misaka clones wouldn't work.
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>>121449469
And that point is moot as we are discussing some anon who would be stalking Misaka and already has the knowledge of the Indexverse.
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>>121449449
>would that imply that two level 3 teleporters are the same in some way?

No, because we've clearly seen that every teleporter in Raildex utilizes the power differently.
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>>121449520
But they are still teleporters, right? That must mean they have something in common.

Move point and Kuroko's teleport is still sending an object through the 11th dimension. It is fundamentally still teleportation.
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>>121449516
True enough, I forgot we were assuming he kept his knowledge from here
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>>121449317
different anon, also anime-only

That there are level 0s in Magic... is not that important I think. Touma's dad created a temple out of coincidence. Pretty sure you could prepare rituals in advance and use wits to make it look like you have powers.
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>>121449584
They are both cute skinny girls and their hair is red toned. Dont they both have twintails as well. There you have it.
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>>121449429
http://www.mediafire.com/raildexstuff
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>>121449613
Touma's dad created a temple through Touma's sheer bad luck, it wasn't exactly a common occurrence
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>>121449496
We don't know enough about Radio Noise make that assumption. Level Upper and Rensa, at least, disprove the theory that abilities require certain DNA.
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>>121449516
>stalk
that's a mean word

I probably wouldn't stalk anyway. It would be just like it is now.
>upset that I won't ever be significant to Mikoto.
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>>121449658
So it seems. That leaves learning magic hoping someone'll teach you.
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>>121449641
Thank you kind anon! Thank you so much! You made me very happy!

I know 2cheesy4u in chan setting but I really am! Have a Kuroko.
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>>121449624
>cute
highly debatable
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>>121449712
Wait, Rensa aside for a moment what about Level Upper ever changed your abilities? It just made them stronger if I recall
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>>121449768
I don't like her and I don't like you
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>>121440960
Why do people like them together
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>>121449712
I think AIM Stalker would help this argument, every person has a personalized AIM.

but the question is really still the same.
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>>121440203
but that isn't Saten-san
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>>121449712
do we even really know how rensa works? because despite all the bells and whistles it couldn't recreate GUTS
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>>121449828
Misaka in swimsuit.
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>>121449768
You are welcome, anon. A Kuroko is enough payment for any hard work.
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>>121449906
It's explained how she works in the novel
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>>121449947
She not real and not relevant.
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>>121449947
Have another.
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>>121449838
Because their scenes were great and the chemistry worked out. Dash on some "Way more time spent together than anyone else" and some character development from Touma of all people and it checks out
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>>121449584
You're simplifying it too much. AC may categorize certain abilities as being similar, but the point is every individual's perception is different and they come to similar conclusions by different paths. The AIM diffusion field wouldn't be nearly as potent if personal realities were so easily labeled or identified by superficial traits.
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>>121449906
GUTS is not an artificial esper. He does not produce AIM. His Level 5 status is a formality as being recognized as the strongest gemstone. Officially he's an abnormality, like Touma.
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>>121450114
>He does not produce AIM
Going to need a citation on that one, I don't remember that being specifically stated at all
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>>121449962
anon most of NT7 is a blur for me. iirc it was something about being able to use the aim of every nearby esper, and i can't remember why the level fives worked all the time. i really don't understand how her failed attempt at acquiring ib went down, since he cancels his own aim.
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>>121449838
It's fun watching Touma tell dirty jokes to a girl.
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>>121440051
>>121440061
>>121440126
So this is what Faildex threads have come to. I was going to read this thread but now I'm too nauseous, I need to take a break.
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>>121450114
he does produce AIM,iirc it is only mentioned in fanfare though.
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>>121450114
He does. I believe in Ralgun or a novel they even note that his AIM is all over the place and doesn't really make sense.
>>121450133
She creates a reference point for nearby espers' AIM, or powers in general, since she analyses what's going on with the esper's body to use their power.
As for how it worked/didn't for IB iunno.
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>>121449809
Being the admin of a Level Upper network grants you access to the abilities in that network depending on how you adjust your own brainwaves. Think about how Kazakiri is only able to manifest through the manipulation of Last Order's brainwaves.
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>>121450114
All gemstones produce AIM, the output is just far greater than with artificial espers
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>>121450188
>ignores the discussion and focuses on the handful of shitposts
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>>121450312
You mean that whole Multi Skill thing the scientist pulled off? That's just borrowing other's powers like Rensa does, we're talking about your own abilities and what would determine them, saying that the clones would make one assume that there has to be some physical aspect to it unless the soul was somehow cloned into them as well.
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>>121450329
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
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>>121450458
Like I said earlier in the thread, the clones themselves admit their minds/souls are "borrowed" and not their own. It could be taken in a figurative sense, but NT4 suggests Kiharas actually know how to fuck with that shit.
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>>121450458
>unless the soul was somehow cloned into them as well
Maybe it was.

If we took a random anon, had him mindfucked into a blank slate with Misaki's powers, and overwrote his entire knowledge base with an existing esper's, would he produce the same power as that esper?
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>>121450594
>>121450543
The Kiharas are able to do that yes, but with the focus that was given on getting Mikoto's DNA map for Raidio Noise I would assume that there is some physical aspect to it, else it would be easier to not have a whole whack of identical girls running around and making people remember cloning is illegal if they happen to spot them.

The only explanation I can sort of see if there is no physical aspect needed and they could have made the clones look like anything and didn't need to screw around with Mikoto to get the electromaster ability into a bunch of them is that it was to ruse Accel into thinking they were clones so he would go with the plan and eventually latch onto Last Order as a way to protect the hub of the network
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You know the drill at this point.
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>>121450797
That Railgun is irrelevant to Index?

Yeah.
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>>121450910
Now that's some stupid shit if I ever heard it. Even if I don't buy into this whole Mikoto = Nuit thing, you've got to be pretty stupid to think Kamachi would let tangential works go against the setting he's created. There's about zero chance that for example stuff like the Dragons popping out of Touma's arm is not going to be important to Index and that it doesn't get run by him
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>>121450910
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>>121451054
>you've got to be pretty stupid to think Kamachi would let tangential works go against the setting he's created
Just like Lessar and Mikoto in NT8, amirite?
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>>121451136
Because that was completely against his setting amirite? Two people met and didn't instantly yell "I know you and have a history with you!" shocker
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what do you think was Superior method multi skill or the rensa system, not power wise of course.
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>>121451237
>shocker
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>>121451237
>Two people met and didn't instantly yell "I know you and have a history with you!"
They didn't only do that, they were absolutely oblivious to each other the whole damn time. It makes you think about how things that happen in the Railgun side of the story don't really affect Index in any significant way.
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>>121450797
blah blah mikoto yada yada saint ect. ect. weeaboo loli is.
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>>121451271
>Sparky
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>>121451341
>Two people not immediately acknowledging and talking to each other when they meet, especially when they didn't get along great as is
>As much of a contradiction to the story as Mother Fucking Dragons, Level 6 and all the other shit that happened in that arc
Stop being so intentionally thick about this, it's obvious as fuck that some things are going to be run by him because they're going to come into play or might contradict rules of the universe whereas little things like Lessar and Mikoto meeting are going to have fuck all consequences to them
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>>121451388
The colonies trying to become independent and then being sent straight to the stone age for being uppity was the best part of that novel
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>>121451490
It's been how long, timeline wise, since Touma had 8 dragons pop out of his arm?
Neither of the times his arm blew up since then have the dragons showed up. Are they resting? Was Touma's tone too harsh when up against Fianma and now they're moody?
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>>121451490
>trying too hard to defend inconsistent character interaction

Just admit that Kamachi fucked up. Two people who met in the past and even saved each other's life aren't going to forget absolutely everything in just a matter of months.
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I wish I was biribiri so I could return kurokos affections, have a babby together, and get married
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>>121451588
i didn't like it a first, but i have come to appreciate how convoluted the entire plan was.
>>121451588
there are two possibilities
>out of control mikoto was a bigger threat than a magic god
or
>dragons only form in AC
i never liked option 2 because one as far we know nothing has changed since izzard so it being much stronger is weird. two, it is believed that aim is the thing that makes it form but lack of aim didn't stop kazakiri in russia and i don't think it stops aiwass either.
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>>121451647
Neither of the other times that Touma's arm blew up was inside AC if I recall, it's theorized that the dragons show up with high concentration of AIM and otherwise is just the invisible thing.
>>121451704
Go ahead and point out where they forgot everything, I'll wait. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, ie; just because they didn't run up and hug doesn't mean they don't know each other. If you have a page where Mikoto goes "Lessar? Who the hell is that?" then by all means
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>>121451772
shit meant to link>>121451647
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>>121451791
IIRC it takes some time to manifest if he is outside of AC
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>>121451877
It took some time inside AC the first time too
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>>121441539
lower production costs and risk for ln as opposed to anime
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>>121451791
On the way to school, Misaka Mikoto stood silently with one of her cheeks twitching.
That spiky-haired idiot was once more pulling off repeated miracles that could never happen in a normal life. Who was that imp-like girl snuggling up against him on that bench? Who was the dangerous blonde girl sitting on his lap who he had been seriously fighting just the other day?
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>>121451791
>If you have a page where Mikoto goes "Lessar? Who the hell is that?" then by all means

Seriously? Did you even read NT8?
>Who was that imp-like girl snuggling up against him on that bench?

Face it, this is proof that Railgun doesn't matter.
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>>121451772
I'd need to read the section where Othinus crushed the dragons again but I think they scale with the size of the threat. Othinus is only so tall (heh) so having 7 some dragons pop out wouldn't really be helpful as compared to when some giant ball of death is sitting in front of you and you need to get rid of it asap.

The AC thing is what I throw my hat into myself, but you are right that Kazakiri can seem to go to Russia just fine.
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>>121443698
why is she eating a clove cigarette
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>>121451974
>>121451971
To be fair she reacts the same way she does to Birdway who she just saw the other day. I didn't remember that yes but it's still hardly as important a detail to remember as all the other plot heavy elements in Railgun.
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>>121450797
Nuit is depicted as a woman wearing no clothes, covered with stars. Her husband is Seb (the Earth).

Nuit is the main speaker in the first chapter of the Book of the Law and the feminine compliment to the deity Hadit. Nuit is the infinitely vast circle whose circumference is unmeasurable and whose center is everywhere. Hadit is the infinitely small point within the core of every single thing. The union of the two is yet another glyph of the Great Work.

Hadit, "the great god, the lord of the sky," is depicted on the Stele of Revealing in the form of the winged disk of the Sun.

Hadit is the principal speaker of the second chapter of the Book of the Law, where he identifies himself as the point in the center of the circle, the axle of the wheel, the cube in the circle, "the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star," and the worshipper's own self. Hadit has been interpreted as the inner spirit of man, the Holy Ghost, the sperm in which the DNA of man is carried, the Elixir Vitae. When juxtaposed with Nuit in Liber Legis Hadit represents each unique point-experience. These point-experiences in aggregate comprise the sum of all possible experience, Nuit.

In Egyptian mythology, Seb is a son of Shu and Tefnut and a god of fertility and the Earth. He was associated with the goose and the colors green or black. Seb imprisoned the dead souls of evil men and women, keeping them from entering Heaven.

Nuit = Mikoto is obvious, stars and light, etc.
Hadit = Accel: winged disk of the Sun (angel mode), the axle of the wheel (vectors)
Seb = Touma: god of fertility (harem), also associated with snakes (snake --> dragon), imprisoned the dead souls of evil men (IB)

keeping them from entering Heaven (Heaven canceller? What?)
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>>121452084
Those plot heavy elements in Railgun are only important to Railgun.

All the worldbuilding, key plot elements and foreshadowing happen in Index. Railgun doesn't even touch the core of AC or the dark side.
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>>121452142
So he could throw in a scene like Touma having esper powers and that'd be just dandy because "It's just Railgun, it doesn't matter" No, this shit does get run by Kamachi at least to some extent
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>>121452142
So Misaki's backstory isn't canon because it's in Railgun?
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>>121452366
Kamachi just keeps Railgun within its boundaries.He's not going to make a major revelation in a spin-off.

>>121452478
Learn to read. The point is that events in Railgun have no effect on the Index storyline whatsoever. More so when Kamachi retroactively adds things to have Mikoto do things and interact with new characters, but for some reason aren't acknowledged in Index in any way.
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>>121452670
Alright, so I can assume that Misaki's backstory is irrelevant to the main story then?
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>>121452827
You're just pining things to your convenince. It is relevant to her character, and it is actually acknowledged in Index, unlike most of the shit Mikoto does.
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>>121452827
dolly is never going to be mentioned nor will the big brain
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>>121452992
But doesn't that mean that Railgun is relevant?
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>>121453036
It means that Misaki's character is consistently written across the different media. The plot and Mikoto's character in Railgun are irrelevant to Index.
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>>121453024
>She had already settled the issue involving a giant **** to increase **** which was very important to her.

>The related incident involving a **** named Dolly who had lived hidden in a tall building was also over for the moment, as much as she hated to admit it. Enough time had passed since then for her emotions to cool.
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>>121453211
Once again, I can assume that Misaki's backstory is irrelevant then? It's in Railgun, and from what you're saying it is meaningless.
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>>121453304

>>121453275
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>>121453372
Ok, so Railgun is relevant then, cool.
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>>121453304
it is canon but not likely to come up, like all of the ss volumes
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What happened to Raildex generals?
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>>121453493
So NT11 isn't likely to happen? That's good to hear.
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>>121453396
Except the evidence earlier proves otherwise. A simple backstory doesn't make a whole series relevant, specially when Kamachi said that he had planned it a long time ago and put special emphasis on it, unlike the rest of the plot, Mikoto's antics, and more important events which have been outright glossed over, and never acknowledged in Index.
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>>121453597
Sorry, but >>121453304 proves you wrong. Railgun is relevant, no matter what you say.
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>>121453573
you know what i mean anon, the things happening are not likely to be brought up unless the characters involved become the center of the plot. if misaki wasn't the pov of nt11 we would not have herd about it. as long as touma is the star of an arc it is not likely the doings of side characters will come up.
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>>121453636
Misaki's backstory is relevant, not Railgun. It's sad how a side-character is the only thing acknowledged in the main story from the side story.
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>>121453695
Sorry, but the very fact that her backstory is relevant by proxy means that Railgun is relevant. No matter how hard you try and twist it.
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>>121453636
Sorry, but >>121451971 and >>121451974 proves you wrong.
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>>121453539
>in this scene they look very small
>in other scenes they look significantly different
J.C. staff sucks so much
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misaka must be a beast in bed. would the clones try to sneak in during breaks, rendering touma a skeleton?
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>>121453742
Alright, so the dragons aren't real then right? We can go back to assuming that it was a one time thing from Izzards magic?
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>>121453740
A very minor event only relevant to Misaki's character and not the series in general. Again
>unlike the rest of the plot, Mikoto's antics, and more important events which have been outright glossed over, and never acknowledged in Index.
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>>121451732
This pic makes no fucking sense
>kuroko shows pregnancy test as if SHE was pregnant
>last tile implies that kuroko is the man
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>>121453841
Still means that it's relevant.
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>>121453794
>one time thing from Izzards magic
yes
invisible thing > dragons in mah arm
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>>121453794
They don't exist in Index, so no.
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>>121453892
>They don't exist in Index
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>>121453876
>that it's relevant.
Just Misaki, not the series or Mikoto.
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>>121453924
The amount of cherry picking you have to do to come to this conclusion is pretty hilarious, keep up the good fight
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>>121453922
They don't.
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>>121453924
Nope, still relevant anon-kun.
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>>121453866
Since Arnold Swizenegger, man can be pregnant too.
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>>121453866
It's a shitty yuri bait edit, of course it makes no sense.
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>>121453961
Unfortunately I can't link this and a smug reaction at the same time, do know though that I am laughing at you
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>>121453924
>>121453959
Instead, let's talk about how Accel sexually harrased 10031.
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>>121453959
I'm not cherrypicking anything. I already gave you the facts that make Railgun irrelevant to Index. Minor events don't make difference in the big picture. Misaki's character is just a lot better handled and written than Mikoto's or Railgun in general. She trascends the horrible indifference of Index to Railgun.
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>>121454043
D E L E T E T H I S
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>>121454056
Next you're going to tell me you're not in denial
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>>121453961
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>>121454027
So a dragon appeared in Index first. Railgun did nothing new.
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>>121453922
>invisible thing given form from izzards fear
>invisible for fiamma
>invisible for othinus
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>>121454043
Why haven't I heard of this before?
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>>121454084
Good argument. As expected from a retard who can't grasp such a simple argument.
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>>121454056
All this denial is fucking hilarious
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>>121454083
You can delete your own post, you don't have to ask.
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>>121454109
It simply didn't take a form, it wasn't invisible

>Something invisible blew out from the crushed remnants of Kamijou Touma’s right wrist. With a roar, it shot toward Othinus without taking any real form.
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>>121454146
Yeah, and you sure are showing me.
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>>121454178
>Spending effort on a moron
I've been through this dance before, no matter how much time and effort I put into it I can't cure idiocy, my time is much better spent laughing at you flailing around attempting to make an argument instead
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>>121454178
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>>121454247
>>121454298
Well meme'd, /b/ros.
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But Saten's thighs
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>>121442169
>Modern Rap.gif
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>>121454135
You see, Volume 3's description of what Touma found in the alley is clearly indicating a prolapsed uterus. Knowing a little anatomy will make clear, that a simple blodd flow reversal won't have this effect. Logically, it means Accel sexually harassed 10031 before her death. Probably rape. With vectors.
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>>121454159
same thing, if it has a choice of form why doesn't become a dragon every time. why did it choose nothing for touma's weakest enemy.
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>>121454392
Stop spreading your lies motherfucker, Accel is pure
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>>121454420
Because it didn't give a fuck at the moment and his host was in danger so it didn't have to form itself correctly?
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>>121454370
Holy shit. I just spit tea all over my fucking computer I'm fucking suing you
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>>121454466
it takes no time at all and it had more time with fiamma and othinus. othinus wasn't even trying to kill touma.
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>>121454247
>I can't cure idiocy

>A short backstory chapter for Misaki told in Railgun is referenced in Index
>WOW, that sure invalidates the other glaring inconsistencies that show how little Kamachi cares about the shit he himself wrote for Railgun while writing Index

I'm impressed at the irony in your post, and how you resort to one-liners and name-calling when you run out of "arguments".
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>>121454450
>Massacares, harasses and rapes literally tousands of cute little girls who did nothing wrong.
>pure
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>>121454520
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>>121454520
The one who has no "arguments" is you, you have one single instance where Kamachi didn't take into account that Mikoto had met Lessar, and that's about it, you're the one taking that and turning it into "scores of inconsistencies"
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>>121454583
>implying the clones were anything more than pieces of meat with the ability to move and breathe for most of the experiment
>implying they had any free will whatsoever
>implying Accel wasn't manipulated by the clones and the scientists
>implying the clones didn't willingly go to their deaths because they themselves even acknowledged that they were mere guinea pigs
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ok
in the index touma was sighing and considered losing the bet and dancing with mikoto misfortune. while in railgun he was enjoying himself with mikoto and didn't seem bothered at all.
which one is canon?
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>>121454518
Touma purposefully crushed it against Fiamma when it was gathering power and against Othinus it didn't even do that, it simply shot out.

Also the "Dragon King" (because it's fucking named) took quite a while to form against Izzard. And the whole "This guy is a monster!" thing happened after the Dragon took form.
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>>121454680
>in the index daihaseisaia
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>>121454629
There are other instances as well. None of the arcs in Railgun have been referenced in Index. Not even one as "important" as a new level 6 shift. Most of the other inconsistencies are due to the content being retroactively added and Kamachi changing things to make them work in Railgun, like Mikoto not remembering Uiharu's name when they've been in contact for a while.
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>>121454680
I like the manga better and fuck Nagai so the manga is canon
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>>121454823
>fuck Nagai
I'm sorry I'm retarded, daihaseisai wasn't represented in Railgun. I still say manga is canon though but I really have no clue
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>>121454806
It's not like that's Railgun exclusive anyway. The whole Endymion fiasco took all the way 'till NT10 to even be remembered, and it's supposed to happen before the Daihaseisai
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>>121454680
The manga is canon. The only thing Touma considered as misfortune was that Kuroko kicked him in the head.
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>>121454806
>The arcs having not been referenced is an inconsistency
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>>121454806
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>>121454676
>implying you're more than pieces of meat with the ability to move and breathe for most of your life
>implying you have any free will whatsoever
>implying Accel didn't enjoy the rape
implying the clones accaptance of their death wasn't manipulation
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>>121454680
He enjoyed it obviously. Railgun is the only time that it was ever explained what lead up to the dance, as well as their conversation. It was enjoyable for both.
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>>121454935
>implying everyone involved wasn't manipulated
>implying Accel can even get an erection
>implying Accel even has a penis
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>>121454904
Yeah. Biggest retcon in the series.

>>121454914
Touma recalls events during Daihaiseisai and the things in Railgun never happened. This falls under retroactively added and irrelevant content, since every important arc in the series is always referenced later. No exceptions.
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>>121454823
Obviously the manga is canon, the only thing that isn't is the Railgun anime. It changed too much, and Nagai added his retarded filler arcs. The anime can be discarded entirely.
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>>121455003
>implying Accel can't just vector himself an erection, or even a penis
>implying you weren't manipulated into thinking everyone was manipulated
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>>121455025
>Absence of evidence is evidence of absence
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>>121454735
the being afraid of him started when stiyl was making him miss. it just shot out at mikoto too touma didn't even have time to regain his balance from the recoil of having him arm torn off. when othinus did it she had time to go destroy the dagger before it came out. fiamma shot touma and got spooked before touma said anything to the thing.
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top taste comin thru
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>>121455025
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>>121455138
b8/10
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>>121455188
whats bait about it?
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>>121455127
It shows how retroactively added content for a side story has no bearing on the main story. It shows that it is not integral part of the story and just a bonus. It also shows how much Kamachi makes shit up as he goes.
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>>121455265
You're not even being amusing at this point, I think that's about as far as I'll dance with you on this one
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>>121455138
9/10 Less Oriana and more Mikoto would improve it. Also, needs Itsuwa, Komoe not that important.
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>>121455305
Hard facts are never amusing, kiddo. It's funny how you accuse others of being in denial, but this is just common knowledge for anybody who isn't retarded or ignorant.
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>>121455257
The amount of shit tier girls that are there only for their tits seems the most obvious one, there's also the fact that the whole chart screams "animeonly fan" those are the most obvious ones
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>>121455353
Had to answer that one the bait was too strong
>Hard facts
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>>121455394
It's a fact that Railgun retroactively fills in the gaps left in Index.
It's a fact that it is a side story.
It's a fact that it has no bearing on the main story. (so far).
It's a fact that it is not an integral part of the story, just a complement to it.
It's a fact that Kamachi makes shit up as he goes, most of the side stories being proof of that.

Who are you trying to fool here? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bait.
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>>121455330
>more Mikoto would improve it
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>>121455330
>Komoe not that important.
Sensei is adorable and that's all that matters.
>>121455138
Way too much oppai. Where's the weeha? Where's the lessar? Where are accel or Tsuchimikado or even Itsuwa if you like tits so much? Step it the fuck up
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>>121455330
>Mikoto would improve it
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Reminder that Mikoto can't even hold a candle to her own clones.

More Will-tan and less Mikoto would be undeniably an improvement in the series.
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>>121455564
That pic. I know who you are.
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>>121455988
fuck off
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who is the best ss only character?
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>>121456091
https://archive.moe/_/search/image/jHosHjmidMhl+8TczNd4MA==/
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>>121454680

Index is from reality's perspective.

Railgun is Misaka vision.

And Accel manga is Accel vision. It's why everything looks shitty.
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>>121455355
>animeonly
no

and sorry you have oppaiphobia, have you considered becoming a homosexual or registered pedophile?

>>121455330
biribiri is more of an imouto or daughteru

im ambivalent about itsuwa, dont feel strongly about her positively or negatively, shes ok

>>121455570

weeharoo is a daughteru/imouto

lessar has insufficient mammaries, and there is already a superior overly promiscious little girl
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>>121457158
It's not a phobia of it, it's the fact you have people like the two bottom corners in it just because they have tits.
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>>121457158
>lessar has insufficient mammaries
but anon>>121442762
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>>121456823
The cthulu cabal boss was great, he was damn genre savvy without even knowing it.
>My mooks are useless now, should I kill them all as is customary?
>No let's throw them a drinking party so they'll stay out of my way
>One of them is following me to my secret office where I'm going to do nefarious deeds! Should I kill him to silence him?
>"Lay off bro I'm about to get laid"
>"Oh sorry boss"
The guy was the best, then he couldn't get a jar open and sliced the whole damn top off, literally perfection, I just wish he had a face
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>>121443910
>>121444001
https://archive.moe/a/thread/121241432/#121250435
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>>121442508
Another cover wasted on Index.
What a shame.
Can Kamachi please stop pretending Index is relevant?
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>>121457457
I remember that, what a guy
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>>121457205
ok, ok fair enough on konori, I guess upon 'serious' revision konori replaced with kongou, crowley replaced with othi-tan

tesso is adorable in general though
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>>121457457
Index is on it? I hadn't noticed I was too busy looking at Othinus being moe as fuck
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>>121457457
Index is cute!
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>>121457504
Man I'm just fucking up all over the place today, meant to quote >>121457332
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>>121442508
>the art getting steadily more blob and simplistic
I don't like it.
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>>121457457
Who the hell is gonna carry Sphinx then??
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>>121457561
It's a hell of a lot better than it used to be
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>>121457457
>implying
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>>121456823
that volume had a lot of cool magic concepts that will never be revisited
alfar and Valerie apprentice are the best though
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>>121457224
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>>121457563
By the power of Greyskull, fly Sphynx, fly!
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>>121457628
Alfar was Norse Mythology not Necessarius
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>>121457561
It's getting different all the time. WWIII was my favorite personally
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>>121457617
but it used to be this
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>>121457644
tfw sphinx is #6
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>>121457685
>those details and shading
WWIII was far and away the best art. Haimura peaked there.
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>>121457655
the question was for the best ss character not just the ones in Necessarius
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>>121457700
I'm just saying it could be a lot worse and until it is I'm not about to complain
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>>121446573
>tl;dr
If I could find the fucking thing in english I would read it
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>>121457737
Whoops I misread that then. I'm with you then on Alfar, Cthulu boss is cool but not as neat a concept as evolving everything around you by accident
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>>121457773
dude I think the link to a drop box with all of em is in this thread somewhere
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>>121457773
Read the thread
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>>121441691
17k isn't not bad, it's fucking excellent
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>>121453866
Bro it's academy city they could probably make a male misaka clone, impregnate herself and TECHNICALLY have her kid.
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>>121457942
>a male misaka clone, impregnate herself
That's my fetish.
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>>121457942

>Male Misaka clone
>becomes bros with Touma
>Misaka is jelly forever
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>>121458451
>Male Misaka clone
>impregnates Touma
>Thor is born
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>>121458451
A Male Misaka clone would basically be Thor wouldn't it?
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>>121458619

A brown haired Thor with the personality of an imouto.

>"Heh, a penis named pussy."
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Misaki best girl.
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>>121440112

Accelerator Route

>Read index.
>Skip to chapter 17, page 20
>Read till the end of chapter 20
>Start on chapter 27
>Stop after chapter 33
>Read: To Aru Kagaku no Accelerator

Prepare your anus and/or dick.
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>>121459923
New chapter when?
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>>121459923
>Accelerator Route
>skipping first angel mode accel in volume 22
you're missing out on a lot with that
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>>121461258
But he said "read Index"
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