>>121006473 I heard the emperor of Japan loves anime espiacialy Snk and he's 81. The former king of Saudi Arabia said his favorite foreign film was the death note live action movie, I believe he was 90
I know people over 30 who watch anime so I guess there are always a few fans who are up to 40 years old. I think there are barely any watchers among the pre-videogame generations though, like people around 50 upwards. They are just not used to newer media and anime fans are always just a very small part of a mass so it's even less if the mass is barely using computers and internet in the first place. I wouldn't wonder if there were a bunch of 55 year olds on /a/ though.
>>121008834 I don't know about the TV program in your country, but it is beyond abysmal in the countries I know. Retards went to /a/ and claim anime to be shit, but even the worst anime shit I've seen is better than the usual 3DPD bullshit that's being shown on TV.
I know that people were subbing crappy VHS back in the 80's-90's. Most of those people who were at the forefront of subbing back then are probably really old or dead now. I have family in their 50's who watch anime too but have pretty shit taste. I myself have been watching anime for somewhere around 20+ years now, started watching in my adolescence. Most of my friends with shit taste tend to be in their 40's and up for some reason and a lot of them rosey nostalgia glasses on for everything made before the turn of the century. I have some younger cousins into anime and they seem to like haremshit which I guess is to be expected of lonely teens.
Also there are tons of older people on here. A friend of mine posts on another board here and he's like 55. He doesn't watch anime or post on an anime themed board so I don't know how he even found his way here. There was also some kids dad tripfagging on /o/. There were pics of him at some /o/ meeting too and he was fat and redneck looking. Not the type of old dude you'd expect to hangout with kids, looked more like a molester. Not sure if he still posts because I filter all tripfags there.
>>121015706 No be happy with what we have. There were so many shows that I watched random episodes of because that's all I could find the VHS tapes of. Within the last few years I have been able to download and watch shows where I never thought there would be a way for me to ever watch them from beginning to end. I didn't get to live that whole university thing either since I just happened to know a lot of older folks at a young age who gave me the hookups.
>tfw modern sub groups made it possible for me to achieve closure to my childhood.
>>121006574 My mother is 61 and loves Ghibli movies and has seen quite a few general animated dubbed films. It kind of warms my heart when I hear her talking about wanting to invite me over so we can watch Wolf children, or one of the new anime movies she's found together, just like the good old days when I was a kid.
>>121015779 How does that even happen? I'm in my thirties and I'm fine. Maybe it's because I'm asian and my group of friends sticks to other asians but we are all normal people with good jobs, families, good social life, etc etc. Every time a white person tries to get into our group they act are usually fedora neckbeard brony virgins who end up not fitting in with us as it's hard to relate to someone who still lives with his parents, spouts memes, and complains about >tfw no gf.
>>121015829 Yeah you're right for the most part. To this day though, when buyfagging or looking for hidden gem anime, I'll see a shit quality image for ants or whatever of an anime or old merch and because I know so little and have very limited access to it I want to know even more even though it's probably not all too good.
It's a "it's the journey that matters" kind of thing, you know? Totally different perspective on your end, but it is pretty sweet that you can get like 95% of any anime you could possibly want at a click. I was only born in early 93', but I remember anime outside of what was on TV still being fairly scarce to me. I was stuck with hour limited dialup until I was in high school so even watching video online was hard for me. Nowhere near as extreme as the scene you came from but I can appreciate what we have now compared to then. It's just sometimes I still yearn for the hunt for any scrap of info I could get about something I can't easily know about. sage for blogshit.
It's not like I actually have a neckbeard or wear fedoras. Most 30 year olds aren't in that group, by virtue of age. If you hit 30 and are still a virgin, you generally stop complaining about no girlfriends and deal with the fact that you're gonna be single your whole life. Or at least, that's how it happened to me. I work in a field with very few single women, virtually no interaction with other adults during the workday, and very little free time, so yeah.
But I'm fat, and growing up fat has made me awkward and nervous and super self-conscious. That's just how it is.
I don't expect Asians to understand because you guys have an entirely different regional and ethnic culture from Tex-Mexicans.
>>121016649 Fuck. Me too. Get home from (to my parents house) and just watch anime while I wait for dinner. 10 years later now it's get home from work, lift for gains, cook dinner, random chores, get ready for work the next day, watch 1 anime episode, hopefully get to spank the gf, and fall asleep. I miss the simplicity of youth.
>>121016750 I'm the guy you replied to and I'm an Asian in the US. Regionally you and I are probably the same. I mean this sincerely since I do know that feel that you are speaking of, I hope you can get over your anxiety and awkwardness one day.
It is what it is. Some people are just not as socially adept as others.
I'm at least capable enough to be a teacher. It's mostly just the fact that I don't get to have adult relationships and that most of my days go by without more than half an hour of interaction with other adults, due to living in a rural area.
Hell, I don't even have non-online friends anymore, because all my friends moved to various cities for jobs.
>>121015779 As a 23-year-old in a similar position (who will still be in the same position in 8 years), ez. For hobbies, take up a few mainstream hobbies, dabble in them enough to know what you're talking about, and then drop. My state is highly pro-gun, so I shoot, and I've lurked /k/ for a while, so I can spout off about all kinds of stuff, especially slavshit. I work IT, so vidya is acceptable, and there are a few wizards with power levels similar to my own, with whom I can discuss anime. Even the normalfags (relatively speaking) in the company play Magic: The Gathering.
For movies and TV, just look at Rotten Tomatoes now and then for good recent releases, and spend an evening watching one or two of the best-rated mainstream movies. For shows, watch something like Game of Thrones - it's become a huge hit. Find the mainstream stuff that you can still sorta enjoy, and at least read synopses, so you can chat about it a bit. Casually follow a single sports team.
We really ought to throw together a guide to surviving around normalfags. Something like The Well Cultured Anonymous, except up-to-date, and geared towards neckbeards instead of /b/tards.
>>121016750 Different Asian here who grew up in Bay Area and I just wanted to say I worry about the same stuff you do. Pretty sure it's just the individual.
I can't hang up anything I want at my own place because I'm afraid visitors will see them, however rare they are. I also accepted I'll never find a gf but I even stopped caring years before that. I just want a good job so I can afford more of my hobbies.
>>121015779 >And still a fat, single virgin neckbeard who has to hide his powerlevel and worry about his spaghetti spilling everywhere at work conferences constantly. Why are you afraid of people finding out that you like anime? It's literally just another way of telling a story. You shouldn't be ashamed of something you enjoy.
>>121017464 I've been noticing this more with males is that they graduate college and get a good job but don't get married or have kids so that they can enjoy their hobbies. I'm in that boat and I work with many guys my age in my field who are barely staying afloat trying to support a family on one income with a stay at home mom. Meanwhile you see the least financially successful people in life pop out many kids and us working stiffs pay their welfare.
Oh well I'm enjoying my expensive hobbies and high great quality of life.
48 year old here, been enjoying anime and manga since the 80's. I remember trying to go to a convention once in the early 90's when the conventions were few and far between. Haven't ever been and don't think I will ever bee able to at this point without feeling too self conscious about the age gap.
>>121017651 Once you see how badly the majority of neckbeards age you won't feel too bad. I see a lot of them in their late teens to early 20's with wrinkly faces and balding. Meanwhile I'm 30 and look younger.
>>121011286 /a/'s average age is around 24 and has been for a while. There are plenty of 30+ and a lower percentage of teenagers than most of the other boards. Even as we get a bunch of younger retards, the rest of us get a year older every year and this place is notoriously hard to leave.
Nah, if anything people will think you are cool as shit. I had a really nice, lengthy chat about anime with a middle age business woman at the last con I went to. She had just gotten off of work and drove straight to the con. She really stood out since she was so formally dressed, but everyone was pretty chill about it.
If you still are nervous, just pose as a parent looking for their lost kid or something. Families at cons are usually pretty cute.
>>121017651 Don't think about this too much. Look for the next biggest con you are able to go to without spending several days of driving.
You should by NOW buying your tickets and reserve your place to stay the night.
If you like photographing and own a cam, take it with you. You will only need some pocket money and off you go.
You will enjoy so many things there and meet so many nice people, trust me there is such an unexpected big amount of people in your age range. Just trust this anon here. You will be respected and everyone is so chill and nice.
If I could describe a big con it would be something like some hippie kind of thing. Everyone just enjoys and no one judges. Please just do it!
>>121018976 This is true. Before I settled on /a/, I tried my hand discussing anime at forums like Gaia. Yeah, that was a huge mistake. >>121018635 The guy who founded MAD Magazine said this on nostalgia: "MAD was always best when you first started reading it." Same is pretty true of anime. I still prefer the art and stylings of the anime of the late 80s and early 90s because that's when I got into anime in college. But I do like to think I'm aware enough not to call it the "best" anime. Just what I like.
>>121016881 I watched anime when I was still in high school.
I couldn't relate to them then so I feel no different about them now.
It's funny because I always held the notion that they were just trying to aim at the target audience of teenagers. But then I found out that the majority of the money comes from 20-something otakus and it makes no sense to me.
28 here. I have a stable job, people like me, and I still have a good group of friends.
Still no gf though. Not for lack of trying, I'm just not good at talking to women in things besides small talk. I have plenty of female friends, but they're all in relationships so the fact that they're women is kinda a nonfactor for me.
>>121021541 I'm convinced with places on the net like /a/ and grown ass men having mid life crisis, even the average normalfag is just suppressing their desire to have fun the way they used to as kids because of their peers. For men at least, I don't know about women by and large.
>>121021707 Sorry, my brain misread the previous post as "write a story about him", not "like a story about himself".
>>121021740 Matthew Mark Luke and John can be considered that by today's perspective since they all wrote their shit like 30-70 years after Jesus died. Granted at the time they wouldn't have been since they were respecitvely a tax collector, a disciple, a doctor, and a second disciple.
>>121021740 Being a historian is easy. The term shouldn't imply any sense of legitimacy despite people thinking it does. You could write complete bullshit but if you record shit and have sources and call it history you're a historian. I mean Suetonius is still held on the same level of Cassius Dio.
People would want to because they want to fall in line with what they believe society is telling them. It's moreso seen that being an adult is being responsible. But somewhere along the line, the ability to have fun was considered irresponsible. Sad, really, when the only way "responsible" people can have fun is if they TRY. That's when you've grown up too much.
I used to love haremshit when I started but as time went by I started spotting all the cliches and ignored them entirely. I mean, I still watch them from time to time but I no longer enjoy them the way I used to.
>“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” ~ CS Lewis
>>121021541 I absolutely agree. It's the ones who are so desperate to condemn fans of anime/manga that are insecure. I don't want to "grow up", because I think the standard for a "grown up" is pathetic and full of guilt.
>>121006473 At my university, one of our professors is a 70-something-year-old, award-winning, nationally-acclaimed novelist. He has a deep love for shoujo manga and anime. Sailor Moon is apparently one of his top picks, along with Utena. He's even written a manga of his own.
>>121021947 People "grow up" because it makes it easier to call themselves good people without having to actually think about what they do, why they do it and whether or not any of it is actually good. They work hard, but only within the lines they know of. Fuck any introspection they might have had, if they can get paid and have kids then according to society they're automatically good people. Lately though, due to the lack of available jobs, it's become harder for people to validate themselves that way.
>>121015878 I showed my mom a few extremely entry level anime like Wolf Children, Death Note, Summer Wars, and Spice an Wolf. She didn't like any of them. Pretty much the only ones she somewhat liked were Ghibli movies and Monster.
Oh yeah, and she fucking loved Vampire Knight(until lolincest). I think she's just a fujoshi
It seems to me that the older you get, the more picky your taste becomes. I have a lot less time for shows now because of job, fiance, etc. so I pick only a couple a season, with last season being an exception.
I hope I get to grow old with you guys. It makes me a little happy knowing that a lot of the same anons will be here when I'm 30.
>>121022007 Of course. I used to watch action shows exclusively. I loved battle shounens. And then I started seeing how dumb they were, but I still watched and read them as a guilty pleasure. Then eventually they just became boring to me.
Now I mostly watch SoL, romance, harems and comedies. I've come to see that virtually all anime is nothing but cliches heaped on cliches, so stories hold pretty much no interest to me now. I rarely see an anime these days that makes me interested in its story. Though I do love Cross Ange for reasons besides the gratuitous fan service (although that's why I picked it up in the first place). Just goes to show that Fukuda understands his audience. Draw in the jaded otaku with boobs and butts, then drop amazing world building and intrigue on them.
At any rate, years of watching anime has convinced me that execution is far more important than content. How the story is told is infinitely more important to an anime's quality than what story is told. Most SoL and school romances follow extremely predictable patterns, yet they vary widely in quality depending on how well they are executed. Harems though, mostly tend to be on the low end of the quality spectrum, but I still find them more enjoyable to watch than your average battle show. Like with Seven Deadly Sins. I find myself skipping through the overly-long and samey fight scenes just to get to the much more entertaining character interactions between them.
>>121022704 >She didn't like any of them. Pretty much the only ones she somewhat liked were Ghibli movies and Monster.
Better than mine. She hates the Japanese and considers them inhuman scum because of how they treated our soldiers as POWs in WW2.
Doesn't matter my arguments that she's putting the sins of the father upon the son, or that most of the Japanese responsible for that are dead, or that we treated Confederates even worse during the Civil War. Doesn't matter, she thinks they're irredeemable.
I want to marry a Japanese girl almost partly just to piss her off, then not invite her to the wedding.
25 years ago I started off with Mecha/SF, Romance and Adventure/SoL and Comedy. The noteworthy additions later were Magical Girls, Harem, Moe SoL and Military Moe. Today I'm mostly watching SoL, (Mecha) Magical Girl and Comedy. I dropped harem, romance and space opera SF.
>>121022518 >34 year old here I'm turning 34 next month. Been watching anime since a little kid, all the mecha shows airing in my country. I also watched Space Adventure Cobra until it got banned for not being suitable for kids
>>121022007 I feel like most people start with something like DBZ or Nurutu and reach a door. If you open it and get immersed in the culture then your tastes branch out and change. If you don't, you stay a normie and don't watch anything but the popular battle shows.
I really hope there are a lot of older anons in here. It more than likely is just some cunt fucking with everyone in the thread, but I can dream. I secretly hope that all of the good anons will have /a/ or another similar forum when we're all old as fuck and we can bitch about currently airing shit and reminisce about stupid ass maymays together.
>>121023244 Yep, production values help too. Things like good sound editing, quality voice work, and a nice OST will keep me watching, doubly so if they create an enjoyable atmosphere that makes the show easy to watch. A good SoL show puts a lot of effort into those areas I mentioned, they try to create a very relaxed, comfy atmosphere so that the episode just seems to fly by.
By contrast, I find Aldnoah Zero hard to watch. I can't really say why. The music isn't bad per se, the animation isn't terrible, but all of it together just makes it unpleasant to watch.
I was saved from becoming a normie because when I was in high school (the year the nurutu anime started), my niggaboo friend told me about the concept of torrent.
Oldschool bittorrent, where you had to have a separate instance of the program open for each individual torrent. And downloading a single episode of nurutu took an hour. Still, that turned me from being an Adult Swim dub-only guy into someone that downloaded each week the shows he wanted to watch.
>>121022824 >Now I mostly watch SoL, romance, harems and comedies. I've come to see that virtually all anime is nothing but cliches heaped on cliches, so stories hold pretty much no interest to me now.
>>121023015 here, pretty much same thing here. After having watched so many shows over the time I lost interest in story-driven anime and mostly just enjoy character-driven stuff. Storywriting isn't a strong side of anime in general, so once you're past your teenage years where you think that Evangelion is seriously deep, it just doesn't work anymore for you.
>>121023614 I almost want to believe you anon, but I'm not sure If i'm willing to take the risk, as you said the first three episodes were really fucking bad, I can't possibly see how they could unsink that ship.
>>121023472 I actually started watching lesser known shows after I watched Big O on toonami when I was in early high school. FMA made me branch out a lot.
>>121023542 Same here. My friends and family all know about my "anime hobby" but very very few know that I browse 4chan. My fiance know, but I never talk to her about it.
>>121023576 I want to believe that this place will stay up in a state similar to now, 4chan loses its popularity, and the only people left will be a smaller, better community. Then it stays like that until the community slowly starts to die off.
Hold on to your butts for a fine tale of normalfaggery.
>be me, 28 then >have gf for 5 years at the time >literally no one knows the depth of my anime watching, not even her >keep old tapes and dvds hidden from public eye >Make fun of anime when other normies do >I'm a model normalfag with a decent, public-centered career and social life
One day my gf and I are talking and she tells me that a friend of hers showed her an awesome new show and she really likes it, but she's afraid of telling me because she thinks I'll find it weird that she enjoys it.
>It's Psycho-pass >Suddenly she starts watching a ton of anime >Huge fan
>tfw I missed out on being the one to watch her first anime with her >tfw I think of all those conversations and inside jokes we could have had >tfw she prefers Rei
>>121022007 I first started with ecchi. I was a teenager and I fapped a lot.
Then I watched Shounen. Bleach and Naruto were the big ones. I still have fond memories of marathoning the first 50 or so episodes of Bleach. This was the first time I came to /a/, expecting lots of discussion for them. I was quite surprised when I didn't recognize any anime from the threads. I saw a bunch of thread for Lucky Star(this was when it was airing). So I decided to try it out. I thought it was awful.
After that I watched a lot of shows. Mostly entry level and some on the recommendation charts. Then I started watching seasonal shows for the first time on /a/ in 2011 with Mawaru Penguindrum.
Now in 2015, I'm having trouble enjoying any shows. The last show I really enjoyed was Silver Spoon. Yet I keep watching shit anime and I keep coming to /a/ to complain.
>>121023743 You are where I was 4 years ago. I took a long break from anime then came back even stronger. I watch more shows per season now than I ever did in my life. I picked up reading VNs and LNs a couple years ago and have gained a moderate amount of Japanese proficiency from those hobbies.
Basically you're at a crossroads, and your options are either to swim back to shore or dive even deeper.
>>121023743 >marathoning the first 50 episodes of Bleach It's sad how Bleach was legitimately pretty fucking good and now it's some insane drawn out clusterfuck that only has some occassional KUBO and foreshadowing to keep it interesting.
I actually never fapped until I was 18. I was raised in an extremely sheltered environment that instead of speaking badly of sexual matters, never spoke of them at all period, so I had no knowledge of them.
I know that may not seem relevant, but I bring it up because my first fap was to Asuka, and it feels kinda nostalgic now.
>>121023784 The first one I torrented was Escaflowne movie. I got.
>>121023743 >>121023923 Same thing for me. Instead of powering through though, I switched a lot of my time to manga. Now I have around 200 ongoing manga that I'm reading. I still watch a couple of shows a season, but I hardly work on my backlog anymore unfortunately.
>>121023936 I felt dirty and ashamed when I first started fapping to anime girls.
>>121023834 7chan is garbage and 420chan deleted their /a/ because their users couldn't handle watching Lucky Star. Never been to 711chan so I don't know what's up with that. There are a few scattered /a/-based imageboards but they're usually not very good. Wizardchan would probably be okay but it's too fucking depressing.
>>121016881 I know that feel. I just slowed down with my anime watching. I decided to pick up old, long anime and slowly watch those. I also decided to play more vidya since I've been neglecting it in favor of anime. Just cycle your hobbies so you don't get bored. Once I'm burned out of playing grand strategy games, I'll go back to reading and then cycle back to anime.
>>121024149 Switching to manga is like discovering anime all over again. There are so many series that I love that don't have adaptations and I can marathon the shit out of an entire work faster than an anime.
>>121024279 With manga, you set the pace. It's got a higher potential for art quality because instead of being based on budget it's production values are based on talent. Plus it can just get away with more stuff than anime. At least it could before that retarded new decency law.
I was born in 87, been into it since gradeschool, Its quite funny to me how easy kids have it now a days/ I have tons of old animerica magazines/early tenchi/ranma weeklys' and japanese tankobon from the early-mid 90s because the comic shop near my house was balls awesome as a kid. I hated every weeabo at artschool who's first mana was from barn's and noble...that and they only drew shitty anime ripoffs.
>>121024063 >I felt dirty and ashamed when I first started fapping to anime girls. As a kid of around 8-10 or so I found anime girls to be a lot more arousing on sites like newgrounds and found 3d icky
glad I've left my teenage years and only fap to 2d now
>>121024399 The worst thing ever is remembering a manga I haven't read in years and then discovering there's still no new chapters out. What the hell happened with Desert Punk? Apparently it's still going, but it's been on hiatus for 7 years, and the scanlators are still behind on shit that's been out for like 10 years.
>>121024476 Readers are more patient and have better attention spans. A shame most manga don't get regular threads. At least Boku Girl is somewhat popular. I'm still 99% sure the author has drawn porn before, his style feels very familiar.
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