Did anyone else like this? I really enjoyed it. I just haven't had anyone to talk to about it.
Glad to see you guys liked it. The first like 7 episodes were pretty slow, but then that payoff with Hope and her song was just like hooollly shit. I bawled when
Lyuzedied, no shame, just tears.
It started at a slow pace, and kept with that pace, which is good. Show is amazingly animated, good writing, interesting characters, and the plot thickens every episode and the opening is pretty cool, as well as the soundtrack. I liked it a lot. Bought the DVD collection. Dub's pretty good as well.
To be honest I liked the dubs more.
And yeah that pacing. It was painful, but in a good stretching your heartstrings way.
Despite how obnoxious her character was, I really didn't mind Ringo.
It did what it needed to do and more. A reboot in a different perspective is exactly what this series needed. Its dark, gritty, intriguing, thought provoking, and is overall enjoyable. Some of the characters are forgettable, and the plot is pretty slow paced. But the actions scenes, the animation, the soundtrack, the dub, all make it worth watching.
It keeps its pace, which a lot of dark anime forget to do a lot. It has a slow pace, which isn't for everyone, but its good for those who are willing to sit down and relax for the ride.
The style is interesting and original. Its a shame this show doesn't get a lot of praise or recognition.
I read blame! then I watched this..
I should have watched something b4 this, I would typically like it but damn was it slow for me, interest was slowly waining cause i could already guess the direction this was all going.
Maybe I don't think the ending was bad nor hat is was a good conclusion.
I just think they did a really bad job with Braiking boss.
He just appears at the end out of nowhere. It's like if they forgot about him.
That being said. I would love a spin off or a OVA. I fucking love the art style. Madhouse payed respect to the 70's so well.
An OVA is long time due for this series. Sadly, we will never get it. This show is still amazing. The ending was predictable, and Braiking boss was never really the vocal point of the show, but they could have handled him better. The ending was a conclusion. Not bad, not great, just an ending, and thats all it needed to be.
Indeed. Its a show you have to really immerse yourself into in order to really enjoy it. You have to understand its darker tones, and depressing atmosphere. Its action scenes are amazing enough to bring in casuals, but the intellectuals will stay for the ride and appreciate it.
For "feels" yes.
I do fear it breaks the hole idea of robots being able to die of you can start reincarnating characters.
I was hoping for a texhnolyze kind of ending.
Then again, if would probably not be fitting.
I really don't want that because it would break
muh verisimilitude if she came backI just need the hole in my soul to be filled. At least Hope is still out there, right...?
Outtro for the first half because dat synth feel.
Toonami plays it all the time, and the "acceptable" dub only makes it more accessible; dub-only fags and filthy Netflix/Adult Swim casuals rave about it, I don't know where this idea that it's trending toward the obscure side comes from - unless you mean just on /a/, in which case no shit /a/ doesn't talk about good shows.
You don't need to be an edgy teen to appreciate this show.
Toonami only played it once in its revival run. The dub is beyond acceptable, and the casuals leave once they notice that the action is not the focus of the show.
Cassherns immortality was never meant to be explained other than subtle hints. Dio's immortality was never explained as well. I do admit that they should have told us more about Ringos origins, but the show didn't want to give it all away.
That's kind of subjective
I don't even like Ghibli dubs anymorebut not the point.
I've heard multiple times, "oh my god Casshern Sins?? It's so great!! Have you heard of this one called Ergo Proxy? Man, they're soo deep and dark and adult."
To be honest, I think it's just the dystopian setting.
If there's one thing I've learned by now, it's that the majority of people who watch anime are incredibly shallow.
Kaiba has the lolsorandumb settings/characters, but it actually requires you to figure out what's going on yourself, which immediately turns off any casual viewer after 2-3 episodes.
That's my theory anyways.
Neither Dio nor Leda are immortal. They're being taken by ruin, which Leda in particular is obsessed over as she wishes to stay eternal and beautiful. Before the ruin though, the three were nigh indestructible to any conventional means of harm.
It's been a long time and with so little threads people forget.
You're still fucked though.
It's actually quite sad. Kaiba is so fucking good. A real treat.
Over the years, all of these "2deep4u" shows are just are a huge pile of circle-jerking even though there is a lot to discuss.
I also respectfully disagree.
Yeah. The show focused more on the side characters, rather than Casshern himself. Which is fine by me, it made the series feel more enjoyable and more about Casshern's journey seeing the world he has destroyed.
Let's see for me the episodes that hit me in the feels the most were
8, 18, 19, 24 three of those were focused on secondaries
Also, all of the Dune episodes were 10/10, but not in the feels way
I remember seeing something on this. I didn't check it out, I really should.
They wanted to make you feel like you were Casshern and not watching as a 3rd party.
Because of that, you must make the main character quite emotionless and, like you say, put a huge amount of emphasis on the side characters/journey.
I was never attached to casshern but felt quite close to all the other characters.
I guess, it makes you wonder: What would you do if you would destroy the world?
For me at the time it was episode 8 but now it's probably episode 9. The bell one hit me quite hard too.
10/10 & one of my personal favorites.
I like your style, kid
I love all the character designs and the animation itself is gorgeous. The reason why everything looks so amazing is because of the literal setting of the story. There isn't much going in the backgrounds, gray colors and static backgrounds that look like paintings, but all this just helps the overall tone of Casshern Sins and it looks amazing. Plus, with the lack of color and complex backdrops, they were able to focus on everything else.
I love the entire OST. And it really adds to the tone of Casshern, not a lot of anime can say that.
There is a bell suspended in the sky-- ding dong. I can hear it in my heart and it resonates.
The secondary characters make the fucking show. Casshern isn't about action and shounen level of fighting. It's about the people and the characters and the world itself.
You won't be able to handle all the hair.
To add to that tone etc. The episode titles themselves are perfect.
"The Time I've Lived and The Time I Have Left"
"A Drop Called Eternity"
"The Flower That Blooms In The Valley of Ruin" (what happened to that protector cripple robot btw?)
>see a casshews thread
>not made by me
>someone else made a casshews thread
POST YOUR FUCKING FACE WHEN THIS HAPPENED
I just wish it made better use of side characters. They were all incredibly cool in their own ways, but were barely involved because of the nature of the story.
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who liked this show. Always was a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine as I do think the show has a lot of problems (edgy, hit or miss episodes, occasionally atrocious writing), but regardless it's easily one of my favorite anime and one of the more memorable I've seen.
Long live Braiking Boss.
He was a robot who refused to join Braiking Boss and went on to protect humans saying robots and humans could live together. It's left kinda vague because it hinges on what Luna does.
Well, this is going to sound really ignorant but:
How could he be wrong? He fights for peace and, compared to most robots, makes no segregation.
I must be missing something with this character. He was too "right/just/nice" compared too most other characters.
Life's a bitch huh?
A lot of people I talk to have criticized episodes 1-7 because of pacing or because nothing happens.
And I'm here like, but those 7 episodes are what made me want to finish the entire series even if it turned to shit. The show is entirely character driven and I fucking love it.
Exactly, it's because of that gibbe payoff nao mentality of the /v/ generation (of which I'm part of).
Hell of I wasn't for those episodes, I'd probably hate Casshern as much as Lyuze did for the bulk of the series.
That movie is actually not terrible, even though its combat scenes look like AMVs or something. Just another take on Casshern very much like what Sins did.
To add to what anon said here >>120779877, this show really felt like a top-rate orchestral piece. It has a flashy overture, then it plays around with the various instruments (all the one-shots), you have an interlude (Dio and Leda), and then that fantastic crescendo to the finale.
Its was too preachy, they should have focused more on cool battles instead if trying to shove their ideas about life and death down our throats. I feel like it tried way too hard to justify the ruin, their stance would have only been fair if we were able to see what life was like before the ruin, instead they simply say "X is better than Y, but we will never show you Y". Even Casshern contradicts himself by saying that life has no meaning without death, yet through his interactions with others he is able to find meaning and worth in his own existence despite being "immortal", but lets be real, if its possible for you to be destroyed, then you aren't really immortal.
8/10 show though.
really hoping we get more casshern in one form or another
The show was never about battles. Any viewer would know that right off the bat. Only casual viewers or shounen fans would think that battles should have been the vocal point. The greatest strong point about Casshern Sins was the desolate world around Casshern, and him coming to terms with himself, and seeing how his actions caused the impacts on other lives. The fights are cool, but not the main point. He admits life is meaningless without death, but he admits that he is dead on the inside. No memories, no personality, nothing. He's an observer, not a character.
Eh, as an Italian this makes me chuckle a bit.
I remember that my mom gave me VHS of anime from her time and one of those was Casshern, however, we were one of the fews that used to call it Kyashan, quite curiously.
Once I saw the announcement for Sins I was a bit puzzled because I didn't expect it to actually be the "Kyashan" I watched as a little kid.
I think he is supposed to be contradictory. He appears to have this nihilistic view on life and death, but he goes so far out of his way to help others and help them live, whether through literally saving their lives or helping them realize something within themselves to make them want to keep living.
He's supposed to be a dynamic character by these tropes, as well as a blank slate to learn and develope from other characters, which made him perfect for the kind of show Casshern Sins is.
>The show was never about battles. Any viewer would know that right off the bat.
I know that, I'm just saying it would have been better off focusing on what it was doing right, instead forcing something that they themselves had no clear grasp on. It could have been a GOAT action anime instead of decent drama.
Also, rainbow crystal.
What the hell? One or two years ago when I made a thread, most anons agreed with me that it was incredibly slow paced and boring. I literally fell asleep watching it. I admit it had good art direction and animation but it was lackluster as fuck.
Poor Dio, the idiot died happy because he landed a punch that would have killed Casshern IF! he wasn't more powerful than him, maximum fucking kek on that loser.
living forever; never dying or decaying.
If I remember correctly, everyone thought they were immortal yet ended up dying or decaying. There just can't be a middle ground between the 2, you either can do or you can't.
Newfag that is under 18 is detected.
>so nihilistic, his post number is trple zero
The plot was hollow and even so managed to be inconsistent. Calling me underage won't make your anime less garbage. Just look at the thread, everyone comments about the visuals and whatnot, but ctrl+f plot and you'll see that no one talks about it. You already know why they don't.
It wasn't that it was the only thing it did right, its that the other things it was trying to do came up short imo.
Cowboy bebop is structured similarly in that there is action, but also a lot of down time and drama, but its done well! In Casshern the drama bits just aren't that good, with some episodes being sort of hit and miss.
Fucking no one watched this for the plot you shithead, we all were in it for the characters.
Keep crying about muh plot, muh character development, you're still a tryhard kid and you should really go back to watch your anime of the week instead of trying to criticize something you don't understand.
It's like I said that I watch Kinnikuman for the deep plot and lore, you're fucking retarded if you truly believe what you just typed.
>Leda just wanted to have more babies
Too bad Dio realized he stuck his dick in crazy.
Plot isn't everything. We don't talk about it because it is rather simple, but that doesn't matter. It's not the point. Your perceived pretension comes from the aesthetics of the show, which again, is not for everyone. No amount of explaining is going to make you "get it" if you don't already feel it.
Among my favorite series, and contains my favorite OP.
Fucking hell. That imagery alone makes me want to rewatch these Blu-Rays I have.
Nah I'm pretty sure I'm spot on. Before the ruin robots were "immortal", Luna was killed which brought about the ruin which ended their "immortality". My argument is that if death was ever a possibility, they were never true immortals, just very fucking durable.
Its pointless to debate these things anyway, there is just too much unexplained shit in CS.
Want to talk about plot, huh, faggots?
I mean, feel free to not like it, but fuck you for saying that it lacks "plot" and that's why it's bad.
The plot is simple. That's the fucking point. Everything that happens in this show and all of the feelings that it evokes are directly related to the primary and secondary characters.
"The Angel of Ruin"
I think this is one of the best episodes because it really shows the manic state that all the inhabitants of this world are in. She so badly doesn't want to just wait for ruin, that she embraces her fighting spirit and tries running head on into her own ruin on her own terms.
I always took it as the robots could always die from destruction, but never from age and just simply being. And now they are all looking at their mortal lives and freaking the fuck out while struggling to find meaning.
And that's why I love the episode "The Angel of Ruin".
Beings coming to terms with death and time and realizing life is what you make of it and there's meaning to life outside of living your own.
You faggots are making me want to start watching this again, even though my backlog is already full as fuck.
Last time I watched it I stopped somewhere where other robots similar to Casshern appeared. Dunno why I stopped, though.