Did I just get trolled? What the fuck?

Yes. /a/ tricked you into watching a shit animu.

>>120086651

Cheerio muthafucka

>Worst girl dies

Thank god.

>>120086651
Nice stream faggot.

>>120086651
Babby's first NisiOisiN

>>120086651
2deep4u

>>120086651
>You gotta lay back

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>>120086651
The pain will never go away, you just have to learn to live with it OP.

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>>120086836

>>120086651
I'm sorry you watched this whole anime and weren't able to find that one gif/webm that tricked you into watching it.

>>120093006
Still mad about episode 4.

>>120093006
That PV was fucking anno level trolling

I still don't see the appeal of this show. The main character was complete garbage.

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>>120093220
>The main character was complete garbage.
He was probably the best part of the show. What don't you like about him?

>>120086651
Togame deserved what she got, and best girl won.

Also the worst character in the show died a pathetic gruesome death.

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>>120086651
This show does not help me for I am an emotional cripple.

You thought best girl was going to win for once huh? How naive anon.

>>120093803
But best girl did win

>>120093803
Best girl won retard.

>>120086651
The short answer is yes.
Slightly longer answer is, if you watch something writtend by Nisio, trolling is to be expected.

>>120093937
>>120093972
My charcoal colored siblings.

>>120093803

wrong anime.

Now watch the sequels monogatari and so fourth

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>>120086651
spoiler that shit asshole, and I was even 4 episodes away from finishing it

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>>120094201
Where do you think you are where saying " spoiler that shit asshole, and I was even episodes away from finishing it" is considered proper etiquette?

>>120094760
I think you posted in the wrong thread but:

>Artemis threw those two in that room to get raped by a gay pedo
Truly best girl.

>>120094731
At least OP should have a different Katanagatari image that makes me go "I better avoid this" but it isn't that at all
Oh, and I have bad etiquette when a huge spoiler gets slapped at my face, sorry

>>120094201
I'm planning on watching this show and I got spoiled just from scrolling the front page. Only the fag OP can be blamed for this.

>>120094920
It aired 5 years ago faggot

>>120094920
>complaining about spoilers on /a/
Fuck off.
Also, there is nothing wrong with her. She just slipped on a jar of strawberry jam.

>>120086651
I got spoiled on this before I watched it.

Still a good show.

>>120095010
It's one of the most talked about anime and new people are constantly picking it up.
At least Eva fags have the decency to just put "what the fuck did I just watch" and Shinji's hand after masturbation

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>>120095017
I like jam.

>>120095017
>not complaining about people breaking rules
It's not like it takes time to click the spoiler box or to make spoilers

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Hammer sword and hammer loli were the best.

>>120095069
You made the mistake of going on /a/ before you finish a series that has already aired. There is a 1 month rule when it comes to spoilers, once the month after the show ends everything is fair game.

>>120095164
>There is a 1 month rule when it comes to spoilers
That's some bullshit and you know it.

>>120095164
>There is a 1 month rule when it comes to spoilers
Really? Got anything to back this up with?

Can Shichika beat Shirou in a swordfight?

>>120095164
That's stupid, big spoilers can be in a thread for all I care but it's just rude when it's in the OP image

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>>120095268
Well the alternative is this image, which is used for every other Katanagatari thread.

>>120093803
>implying best girl didn't win

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Dropped on episode one due to MC being yet another dense motherfucker.

Figured I'd save myself the trouble.

>>120095245
>Shichika
Specializes in breaking swords.
>Shirou
Specializes in making swords.

Not even a contest.

>>120095331
He has a legitimate reason to be dense though.]

>>120095164
So unless I want to be spoiled I have to watch every anime up until now, then keep up with every show airing if I don't want to be spoiled? That's bullshit and you know it.
Something super old and mainstream like Cowboy Bebop or Eva I can understand, but Katanagatari isn't super popular, nor is most anime. Use spoiler tags you lazy fucks, though in threads they aren't as important but OPs are.

>>120095164
So in other words. Unless you've seen every anime, you are in danger of being spoiled and you shouldn't browse /a/. You're a fucking moron. I can't watch every show I have on a backlog fast enough to avoid you guys not spoiling shit. I got spoiled just by scrolling the front page, I didn't jump into a thread of a show I hadn't seen. Pure faggotry.

>>120095197
>>120095218
Well in reality it is
>2 weeks after episode
>2 months after season finale
>1 year after series finale

>>120095164
>There is a 1 month rule

Bwhahhaha, I have seen episodes spoiled before the fucking RAW was out

Christ I remember /a/ creating a Frankenstein camrip complied of multiple 10 minute camrips of Rebuild 3.0 months before the whole movie was leaked

>>120095413
Where do you get this shit from?

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>>120095406
No that is pretty much how it is. If you haven't seen an anime then go to the place where anime is discussed then complain when a spoiler is dropped then you have severe autism and must seek psychiatric evaluation to be sure if you can function properly in the real world.

>>120095392
Does he though?

Because just about every one of these threads is either about how buttthurt /a/ was over the ending or how retarded MC is.

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>>120095318
Pic related. This one's even spoiler neutral.

>>120095547
Internet

>>120095568
He's a sword. Do or should swords have feelings?

>>120095568
He was raised on an island with just his sister and dad.

And he was raised to be a sword.

He doesn't know anything about the outside world at all.

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>>120086651
Obligatory

>>120095568
>how retarded MC is
The fact that he attacked Not-Togame when he was rushing towards her and saying that he can't recognize or remember people quickly enough because his sister and father were the only humans he had contact with should tell you something.

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Never forget that this picture showed up at the same time these words were spoken.

2deep4u.

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>>120095601
My sword has feelings if you know what I mean.

>>120095597
I laughed. You win.

Threadly reminder that it's a story about failure

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>>120095568
>how buttthurt /a/ was over the ending
It's actually quite entertaining how even the split is for Togame/Hiteifags. Reminds me of pic
>or how retarded MC is
At least he smartened up by the end.

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>>120095164
>Maybe if I lie I can appear informed

>>120095791
Is True Tears worth watching if I know the ending?

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>>120095758
She didn't fail at all. She got EVERYTHING she wanted.

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>>120095758

>>120095838
>everything she wanted
Except she didn't want anything. Retard.
>>120095848
>travels around the country
>stealing the priceless heirlooms of many different people
>often kills them in the process
How are they the good guys again?

>>120095791
>It's actually quite entertaining how even the split is for Togame/Hiteifags. Reminds me of pic
There should be no Togame fags, but because she's a cute tsundere and has the "Cheerio" meme, retards flock to her.

Even though she was obviously a piece of shit that got exactly what was coming to her.

>>120095428
Besides, this show was pretty much spoilered, in its entirety, by LNfags before airing. Anyone who was paying attention knew that the fight of episode four wasn't even going to happen.

>>120095838
She wants too many things to not get some of them. She thought out the possibilities and wanted them, of course it will go one way or the other.

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>>120095829
It's more of a personal rule if anything. It is not really written on a stone tablet sent down from Moot and the other Gods of the internet to be passed down to us mere mortal. No it is just a thing I live by.

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>>120095909
>Missed the part about her being weirdly sexually attracted to the sword her ancestor made because all the ancestors had weird boners for the swords.

>>120095950
Well she got more than Togame wanted. Which was to live.

>>120095909
There aren't any good guys, they were just a set of people that happened to be the protagonists. Even the child ninja would have grown up to be someone who wasn't a good guy.

>>120095834
That would depend who you were rooting for.
You're either drinking the virtual tears of others or just setting yourself up for disappointment.

>>120095676
So this is how Moses parted the red sea?

>>120096009
>Well she got more than Togame wanted. Which was to live.

Also the D

>>120096028
I watched two episodes and it just looks like your standard love triangle drama fest.

>>120096076
Nah bro I am pretty sure the History Channel told me it was Aliens

>>120096086
>the D
I don't get why people keep saying this. Shichika seems to hardly tolerate her presence.

>>120095834
I watched it having faint memories of a screencap (you know the one) and massive amounts of rage over it.

As it grew closer and closer to the end, deep down I knew who the girl must have been in the screencap. It was impossible not to. But I held on believing that my memory was fuzzy and best girl would end up winning in the end.

I was wrong. Terrible ending to a pretty decent romance show.

>>120095676
i dont remember this part

>>120096135
Because they more than likely traveled together for quite a while and it's not like he'd be hard to seduce.

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>>120096016
The ninja were actually the good guys (not counting the literal murderer one). Togame planned to betray them, but they caught wind of it and decided to cut ties.
It was lose/lose and they could only continue to exist by getting some swords and selling to keep their power, but that didn't pan out well.

>>120096252
Have you ever tried to fuck a sword?

why do people act like spoilers are the end of the world?

Shakespeare would put a summary of the whole play in the fucking prologue

>Two households, both alike in dignity,
>In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
>From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
>Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
>From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
>A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
>Whose misadventured piteous overthrows
>Do with their death bury their parents' strife.
>The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love,
>And the continuance of their parents' rage,
>Which, but their children's end, nought could remove,
>Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage;
>The which if you with patient ears attend,
>What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend.

>>120096255
The only actual bad person was really togame

>>120096302
It'd be easy for a girl.

>>120096233
That's because you skip previews.

>>120096326
I really don't know why he does that she.

>>120086651
I don't know Op, but what I do know is that threads with huge spoilers never ever get deleted

Who knows, maybe I'll start openly discussing huge spoilers on a popular anime imageboard! I'm sure other people won't get mad. Haha. Maybe I'll start with one of those newer series that already have an LN or Manga...

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>>120086651

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>>120096370
>Haha

>>120086651
you are just too much of a pleb

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>>120096302
Oh the joyous times of my youth, with my Scottish claymore named Shadynasy.

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>>120096221
Bottom right?
Many sad days for Tombros, indeed.

>>120095601
>Weapons having a character profile in anime
Come on, really?

>>120095626
Goku was raised in a nearly identical scenario guided only by his Grandfather and was still less of a screwup as a kid than Shichika was by the end of the show.

>>120095679
That's what I'm talking about. The country bumpkin thing should have only lasted so long before he got a fucking clue.

>>120086651
for some reason I felt no sadness at the end
I loved her character and was surprised at how suddenly she died
but the ending felt so damn perfect i couldn't feel anything but satisfaction
plus his rampage at the end makes for one of the best last episodes I have ever seen

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Admit it /a/, you liked Togame more until a re-watch had you realize she was a bitch behind the scenes.

>>120096326
Because many stories will be ruined by spoilers. Imagine Higurashi but knowing all about Hinamizawa Syndrome

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Threadly reminder.
http://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/104629

>>120096478
>>120096478
MC isn't even that dense though. At middle-end, he's a fairly normal guy. He's even pulling banter.

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>>120095069
>It's one of the most talked about anime

>>120096790
Not him, but it's talked about fairly often, especially for its release schedule. There's not many shows that could pull monthly episodes.

>>120096611
How could you like Togame less?
I mean yeah she was a bitch with plans to murder 7ka, but despite that she still grew to love him.
It's kinda touching.

>>120096701
I remember seeing the last few episodes of that version, and they totally ruined how Togame's final words mirrored what she said in the beginning.
Who authorized this shit?

>>120086836
rekt

Is there a better boss rush in anime?

>>120086651

Yes you did, but not for the reason you think.

I don't know about the LN (and quite frankly I don't care because I think adaptations have to be considered independently of their source material), but in the anime at least, this scene presents us with something similar to the last few seconds of Inception where the top keeps spinning just long enough for the audience to say "Wait, is he still dreaming?" but cuts to black before you can be sure one way or another. In this way, either interpretation is equally valid because there is a compelling evidence for both. This could also be called The Turn of the Screw phenomenon, from Henry James book that you'll just have to google.

Now, on the surface, this sort of thing seems quite clever - a nod toward the ambiguity of life and our inability to know the truth for sure. But its also kind of a cop-out - its a way for the author to end the story without having to create a satisfying resolution for all the different character arcs.

There are two possible interpretations. Togame is telling the truth in this seen as her final act of repentance for having used Shichika, and her "scheming eyes" activate, because it was all her scheme. According to this, she would have gone through with killing Shichika in the end. Or, Togame is lying in the hopes of sparing Shichika the grief of her death by retroactively negating the value of their relationship, and that is why her "scheming eyes" activate. She may have intended to kill Shichika at some point, but at this point she did not, or maybe she never did in the first place.

Again, both interpretations have much in their favor, but which is the more likely? The fact is, no one, probably not even Nisio, really knows for sure.

>>120093006
I always skip pv, so I never got trolled by ep. 4

>>120097075
>either interpretation is equally valid because there is a compelling evidence for both.
No

>>120097106
What a beautiful retort.

>>120097149
I hope you're okay anon, you just got blown the fuck out pretty hard.

>>120097106

That's not what I said. The fact is that the scales are pretty evenly balanced - again, this is an old narrative technique - so there is no valid interpretation, which is a failure on the part of the author.

You can go read The Turn of the Screw as a ghost story or as the ravings of the Governess who is losing her mind and both work quite well. Its the same here.

>>120097075
I think she really did love Shichika and wanted to kill Shichika and not kill Shichika at the same time. By being an unfaithful schemer, she is caught up in all the ends to her schemes and caught in her own web of dishonesty that she can't even be true to herself. Her words at the end were releasing her of all her duplicity and choosing one possibility to become. So to the bitter end she was scheming but at the very end it was all the truth.

Something like that, a liar being wrapped up in their own lies and fixing it at the very end by making a lie become true.

>>120097328
>That's not what I said
Dude, its a direct quote.

>>120097297

That wasn't even me. Also, saying "Oh, you just got blown out!" in praise of your own comment is kind of pathetic.

>>120097368
Settle down, I didn't post anything in that argument.

>>120086651
Dropped this boring garbage after e3. How did you guys manage to force yourself to watch it till the end?

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These threads really make me want translate the novels.

Hell, I'd even take notes for the shit like when her eye changes and clear up the stuff novelfags mention the anime didn't adapt.

I'm still too low level for a Nisio book, though.

>>120096255
>The ninja were actually the good guys
They were Shogunate dogs who fell out of favour and are now scrambling to unscrew the state they found themselves in.

The closest thing to a good guy is that holy man.

>>120097367

That was about Inception. And yes, either interpretation of that scene has enough evidence to reasonably believe it to be true, and as such, neither is.

>>120097440

Sure you didn't.

>>120097461
by not having shit taste

>>120094034
>>120093972
>>120093937
I don't even remember whatsherface's name.

>>120097599
But i have good taste. And i actually expected to like it. But it was just talking 90% of the time about pointless that didn't have any significance and the fighting scenes were pretty boring too.

>>120097333
>Her words at the end were releasing her of all her duplicity
It's amazing how many people miss this. Emonzaemon pretty much sets up the scene after shooting her telling Shichika and the audience that this is Togame's final scene, where she finally comes clean. At the very end of her little spiel Togame ask Shichika if she could fall for him. Why would she need to ask this if she already truly loved and wanted to protect him?

This whole Togame was lying business only exists because people didn't pay enough attention.

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>>120097620
>forgetting best girl's name

>>120097672
>But i have good taste

Stopped reading there.

>>120097516
>These threads really make me want translate the novels.

Someone did try translating the Katanagatari novels back in 2011 but like what happens to all Nisio Isin translators, they all become eventually kill, never again to return.

http://daniel0987.livejournal.com/

This Daniel guy actually seemed eager to translate the Katanagatri novels but somehow went MIA after September 30, 2011 with no warning whatsoever.

He's some faggot from Singapore, too, like some well known LN translators.

Wish he didn't create such blue balling with his enthusiasm.

So yeah, here's the link to the only available Katanagatari LN translation. It only got up to Chapter 1.

http://daniel0987.livejournal.com/

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>>120097672
>But it was just talking 90% of the time about pointless that didn't have any significance
Anon, literally all of the dialogue is plot important except the gags here and there,

>>120097589
>Sure you didn't.
I don't know how I could've sounded more sarcastic than what I said here >>120097297 but okay.
Retard.

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The only one that survived Shichika's wrath

>>120097824
The true best girl wins.

>>120097751
I compiled that wreck of English into a couple docs awhile back. Tough read, but it does shed some interesting light on stuff the anime skipped.

>>120097870

But... but that's a boy.

>>120098090

Does even matter.

>>120096370
Nagisa dies at the end of Clannad

>>120098090
Nah, she's a girl.

The only trap in Katanagatari is a 500 year old holy man.

>>120086651
A BIG FUCK YOU FOR SPOILING IT YOU FUCKING CUNT

>>120099240
>Implying I watch shitty SOL/moe shows
Try harder, filthy moeshitter.

Doflamingo killed Luffy's Uncle
Law is a D

>>120095069
>new people
Well, maybe we don't want more cancerous fuckshits that feel insulted about everything and know about anime.

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threadly reminder:

TOGAME DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG!

>>120097729
Do you have trouble reading? Are you mentally ill? What's wrong with you?

>>120102865
Nope.

>>120096701
>Mastercraft Klesha Bringers
That's hilarious.

>>120103154
Had to look up what the fuck Klesha was. I can see why they would use it but...no-one is going to call them Mastercraft Klesha Bringers over Deviant Blades

>>120086651
Disneyfags BTFO

So was this a story about the ones who failed at revenge and the ones who failed at the goals?

>>120097703
I always do.

It's how I know who best girl is.

>>120103546
The ones who failed at revenge, The ones who failed at their goals, The ones who fell before achieving their aspirations, The ones who didn't succeed, The ones who lost, The ones who stumbled, The ones who rotted, The ones who fought with all their might, sacrificed everything, just to have their work be for naught, yielding fruitless results,
Who died unfairly, or perhaps illogically, tragically, without face, full of regrets...
The story which offers a happy future for them, filled with hopes and dreams, "Katanagatari", quietly closes it's curtains here.

>>120102695
She took too long to die.

>>120104612
Yeah, it kinda felt a bit too dragged out.

got less emotional and dramatic and more absurd. Instead of spending all that time bleeding out talking they could've at least tried to save her life.

>>120104947
Talking is a free action.

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Best girl survives at least.

>>120095050
Same

>>120097672
Something tells me you are not old enough to be on this site

>>120096233
It's the ova

>>120096611
Nah, i liked her even more at that point

>>120097328
>failure of the author
being this new watching something written by Nisio.

>>120095164
a guy once posted three lines just out of fucking nowhere in a Tsukimonogatari thread about how the whole series is going to end. I was fucking mad

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>>120095676
reminds me so much of her

Say about Hitei what you want but her theme was sexy as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRgf4Hsf6r4

>>120097328
It being a narrative technique is a Red Herring, actually. Nisio already dressed similar ideas in Zaregoto (and his other works) and Higaki Rinne's advice to Togame actually makes it clear that she wasn't lying.

Togame was fully willing to kill Shichika for the sake of her revenge, despite being in love with him. She was ready to go against her own feelings to fulfill her ambitions, despite knowing that she would regret it later. Love is far from all-powerful and perfect in Nisio's stories.

>>120105290
Didn't Shichika destroy the building with the last cheerio while she was still passed out in it?

>>120108226
She survived damnit.

>>120108283
She's dead jim, you gotta let her go!

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Can we all just pause for a moment and recognize the actual best girl.

;____;

>>120097328
>which is a failure on the part of the author
I don't think so. What makes you think the author has any obligation to resolve any plot point he introduces? You might consider it lazy but it's not like it would have been that complicated to make it clear what's the truth. Sometimes ambiguity is more desirable than certainity.

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>>120108556
A shit.

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>>120108644
I mean this one

>>120104947

she got hit in the stomach, you can live hours after that, but in her times medicine would be helpless.

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>>120108556
>not blade hair
best wife material.

>>120095582
The ones who failed....cry like a bitch everytime....that ending was the best.

>>120108737
I was seriously expecting her hair to be the actual blade.

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God damnit

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>>120107415
Same here.

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good job shaft

>>120108860
Best dead girl.

>>120109015
>White Fox

>>120109015
It's not SHAFT though. It's White Fox.

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>>120109015
>Shaft

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>>120109113
>>120109123
>>120109134
>ends in -gatari
>stylised as fuck
>'IT'S NOT SHAFT'

am i being troled

>>120097674

>Why would she need to ask this if she already truly loved and wanted to protect him?

To convince him of the lie.

As a general rule, humans always see what they want to see in such cases and call others idiots who see it a different way. That's just our way of coping with ambiguity.

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>>120109303

>>120109303
Other studios work with NisiOisiN than SHAFT, nigga.

>>120109303
If it was SHAFT, you would have random pauses every now and then, which Katanagatari deosn't have.

>>120109303
>I was just pretending

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oh well, my bad. I thought it was shaft.

>>120107797

As I said in the post, I don't give a fuck about Nisio or his other works. An adaptation exists independently of the source material. Even if what you're saying is correct, you're just embracing the intentional fallacy.

>She was ready to go against her own feelings to fulfill her ambitions, despite knowing that she would regret it later.

That's exactly what she wants Shichika to think so he will resent her and move on. It even seemingly works - after all, he ends up with the princess on some kind of a quest. But imagine, regardless of the truth of the matter, Togame told Shichika at this moment to avenge her, or said something like, "I loved you and I'm so sad I'm going to have to die and lose you now" - would Shichika have been as easily able to recover? Maybe he would have lost his mind.

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>>120109467
You really couldn't have just googled it sooner to realize you weren't being rused?

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>>120109575
Nah

>>120109303
>typical Hitei fag

>>120108603

An author may not have that obligation, but its just as easy to use ambiguity as a cop out because the author doesn't have the conviction in his ability to create characters and worlds to see it through.

>>120109616
>trying to start a waifu war
>>>/mono/

What's the deal with Togame eye?

>>120109661
Fuck I want a Katanagatari fighter so bad.

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>[Deadfish]
Stop.

>>120109728
That pic looks more like Rocky & Pocky: Nanami version though.

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>>120109661