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Prove me wrong. Elegant, doesn't have a useless big bust, non-loli, legs that go on forever, and British born.
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Kancolle on the left, Arpeggio on the right

I-401 > Iona
Kongou = Kongou
Haruna < Haruna
Hiei > Hiei
Kirishima < Kirishima
Hyuuga = Hyuuga
Takao < Takao
Maya = Maya
Yamato < Yamato
Musashi > Musashi
Nagato > Nagato
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>>119631128
Kuso taste from a secondary
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Also blue lipstick.
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>>119631205
I've read all of Arpeggio and play Kancolle you kuso.
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>>119631262
>I play Kancolle
>Shitposting with an Arpeggio thread comparison
Sure thing buddy.
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>>119631128
>Hiei > Hiei
What are you smoking?
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>>119631375
I didn't make the thread, I merely replied.
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>Superior Kongou

Wrong.
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>>119631413
Hiei is handsome, unlike Hiei.
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>>119631436
So you are basically still a shitposter then.
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>>119630917
Just wanted to say that Kancolle Kongou doesn't need to put up with bell pepper.

That is all.
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Which Kancolle has the best pout?
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>>119631705
>Kancolle
The original Japanese version, not those Chinese copies.
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>>119631579
So basically only OP can post? OK.
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>>119631604
Neither does manga kongou. She's doing quite well at the moment.
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Both kancolle and Blue steel Kongou
have their ups and down.

But the one that would get some the most is the Dere-dere Kongou (blue steel)
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>>119631775
There's Arpeggio scans past 51? Where?!
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The one that have already gotten some is the British Kongou (Kancolle)
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Best ship.
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>Kancolle anime by Sunrise
>>Semi-serious war drama with ship girls killed right and left and glorious dakka done right with the Kanmusus and beam spam with the Abyssal girls

>Kancolle by KyoAni
>>Kongou sisters or Akatsuki sisters having tea and being silly, sort of like a SoL spin-off involving each episode having cameos from other ship girls interacting with the main cast, admiral is a shota

>Kancolle by Bones
>>It becomes a trainwreck by the 5th episode, and filled with awkwardly created acronyms and side switching with fleet girls and Abyssal girls constantly

>Kancolle by Dogakabo
>>Some kind of mix between Love Lab, GJ-bu, and Nozaki-kun featuring Prinz Eugen and Nozaki-teitoku's daily adventures at the Imperial Fleet Academy

>Kancolle by Toei
>>Precure Lite with more QUALITY mixed with badly done CGI featuring a crossover movie with the Precures and Saint Seiya Omega

>Kancolle by Satelight
>>QUALITY as fuck but we get a heroic young pretty boy Teitoku whose a half-breed from Murrica' who hates the IJN but the kanmusus work him over his self-hating racism while his-sister/imouto is a female Teitoku whose madly in love with him

>Kancolle by Shoji Kawamori
>>CLTs, CLTs everywhere
>>Kiso dies after eating pineapple curry
>>Every suffering moment is directed towards Zuikaku, who gets broken, turns evil, turns good again but still gets treated as bad as ever.

>Kancolle by PA Works
>>Screechy OP by Nano.ripe
>>Fubuki starts out having to tortuously befriend some aloof shipgirl (dunno, Shiranui or something) and work out her relationship with the admiral.
>>no actual battles, just a lot of drama between shipgirls
>>nobody gets the admiral
>>glasslip.swf

Some of these look like okay ideas to write up. How about a hybrid of PA Works + Okada, music from Amelie and Great Expectations?

http://youtu.be/Dyo4tNwNIvQ [Embed]
http://youtu.be/l_7GDTicWRc [Embed]

Meanwhile anything Suzuya+Kumano would have this manner of music
http://youtu.be/rc0Mm9_aCR8 [Embed]
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>>119631979
We're at 61 now. You can find some on nyaa, the rest on the post-mangatraders place.
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>>119632012
You forgot about Kancolle by SHAFT and by Ghibli
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>>119631413
Damn, that is a fine woman..er mental model.
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>>119632012
>not JC Staff or Ufotable (Gen Urobuchi)
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I will post this occasionally until you like her.
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>>119632012
I would watch the Sunrise and Bones editions.
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>>119632008
Fucker already copying me.
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>>119632008
Naturally the biggest lesbian is the best.
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>>119632039
Thanks, bro. I need to update where I look for new manga.
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>>119632198
I already like her

Though I am a disgusting secondary who is lower than dirt
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>>119632234
>biggest
You got that right in terms of displacement. Kaga actually dwarfs Nagato and would've had one of heaviest broadside in the world.
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>>119632198
as if there are people who don't like her
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>>119632234
But isn't she the most married?
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>>119632070
Shaft would be what?

>Write up... as in do a writefag or *gasp* take it to /tg/?
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>>119632198
>soft to the touch
I already liked her
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>>119632350
Of course she's married to Akagi.
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>>119632198
I like her but want to give love to under-appreciated BBs like Fusou and Yamashiro.
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Okay, so, I'm reading this book on the Battle of Midway. What strikes me is the pure fail and incompetence of the Japanese at the high command level down to the operational level. Basically, they are terri-bad at this modern naval warfare thing.

Why is that, /a/? Is it because of, as expected, being Japan?
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>>119632322
Yamato and Musashi were fatter...er heavier...er..had more displacement still.
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>>119632368

>SHAFT tilt
>flash swf quality
>watching an animated powerpoint presentation
>Ship photo cutout montage
>all the budget goes to an animated fight
>the rest of the anime is just super deformed DDs
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>>119632221
That's good for our best ship, I guess.
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>>119632478
Bullshit. The hotels aren't even really the biggest lesbians, and they are hardly best girls.
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>>119632475
>they are terri-bad at this modern naval warfare thing
Naval warfare was undergoing rapid changes back then.
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>>119632475
Why are you asking a board for anime and manga discussion instead of /k/?
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>>119632491
Kongou doesn't look so good in Kongou's outfit; on the other hand Kongou in Kongou's outfit looks great.
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>>119632592
That's why Kongou is superior to Kongou.
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>>119632555

Both are better than Kaga, at least.
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>>119632592
I love kongou's outfit.
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>>119632592
Kongou>Kongou
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wow, this thread just became a bit lively.

>>119632478
Wider, heavier, Built around Their main cannons.
Super Dreadnaughts

>>119632592
(image related)
You confused me there hehe
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>>119632012
Wonder what would have happened if Actas had done it.

No pantsu most likely. 3 recap eps.
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>>119632475
Because they are new to the world power thing and suck at espionage.
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Now wait a second. Both girls are inspired by a real-life ship, right? So how are they so different? And do they have the same bust size, waist size, etc?
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>>119632679
K/a/ncolle seems to be split between here and another thread, is why
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>>119632475
>>119632588
You can partly blame giving the command to Chuuichi Nagumo. He's really not a naval aviator in any way, being a torpedo and surface fleet man.
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>>119632475
They lost at Midway for a host of reasons. One was not the lack of forces. It's how they used them mainly. They didn't need 4 different fleets spread over 3000 miles. If they had combined all their ships in one massive fleet and drove straight to Midway, the US would have lost. Yamamoto got too caught up in complex plans. Didn't understand KISS.
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>>119632517
I'll let you off the hook due to your awesome taste.
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>>119632846
kancolle >big bust, sizeable hips, Thighs,
high end cuteness

Blue Arppegio >Slim, beautiful, Sizeable hips,
thighs are nice But not as big as Kancolle's.

etc.
there are kancolle kongu pictures in this thread (red and white) and blue steel version kongou (black/purpleish dress) take a look.

>>119632952
I know, wont stop me from liking both.
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>>119632846
Because they were drawn by different artists and different people tend to interpret things differently. Also not every Kancolle character designer is trying to be super accurate with their designs like Shibafu.
>>119633007
>If they had combined all their ships in one massive fleet and drove straight to Midway, the US would have lost
Mahan pls go.
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>>119633136
He isn't entirely wrong. The diversionary attack at Alaska was totally pointless strategically.
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command sent to fleet was intercepted and decoded. They didnt know, They went on.
Forces that decoded message set trap up,
rest is in the history books. go look.
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The whole idea of Yamamoto's plan was to appear scattered / weak to lure the Americans out of Hawaii -- he, of course, didn't know that no luring was required, the Americans were itching to slap some japs. Once lured out, he'd spring his trap and wipe out the remaining USN carriers. But due to multiple and serious recon derps, having their codes broken, the plan itself being retarded (Yamamoto only got his way with it after threatening to retire), and finally, a string of hilarious derps sealed the deal.
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>>119633474
Japan didn't really think that their naval code's been cracked for some reason.
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>>119633474
>>119633577
>>119633585
What does this have to do with anime or manga?
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>>119633276
Not to mention they split the Carrier strike force, the invasion force, and the MAIN force actually attacking Midway up out of mutual support range. The US was VASTLY out numbered in ship type. Japan had over 200 ships including 7 Battleships, 4 Fleet carriers and 3 light carriers. The US only had about 40 ships including 3 carriers and one of them (Yorktown) was actually "damaged" previously at Coral Sea.
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>>119633603
Plenty.The game already features the Abyss gaining initiative on the kanmusume with the surprise counterattack at the end of MI in the bonus stage, and there's no reason as not to show this sort of thing happening in later episodes in the anime.
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Sir we've sighted something.....
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>>119633585
Japan was only good at suicidal attacks really. When it came to war tactics they were pretty much brain dead.

The simple fact they wasted so many war resources on giant useless battleships pretty much proves it right.
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>>119633603
It angers weebs, who are the core audience for this awful, awful game. Because they would have no interest in it if it weren't for the jap otaku getting all into it because some big anime names liked the VAs and designs.
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>>119633762
Sp why are you discussing the real life battles?
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>>119632846
How do you turn a ship into a girl? There are no standardized guidelines for that.

Kancolle has some sort of informal rules about displacement = bust size, sister ships looking alike, submarines wearing swimsuits. Things like that.


In arpeggio the associations are not as stringent, owed to the mental models being free to change appearance at will and frequently making use of that ability. Some of them go through multiple outfits in a single chapter. It's a bit of a fashion show at times.
Small ships tend to have physically smaller MMs.
Some sister ships share aspects of their appearance but others are quite dissimilar. E.g. takao and atago look alike but their sister maya is quite different.
Hiei's group wearing matching uniforms is something she imposed on her fleet.
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>>119633577
The plan was in large part fine, the major fault was in the intelligence intercept with many minor faults in the actions of commanders in the carrier fleet and the general over confidence of the Japanese.
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>>119633603
You're in the /k/ancolle-arpeggio thread.
k/a/ncolle is >>119631661
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>>119633603
In the game, the Kanmusume often reference their history. Like the whole night battle thing with those destroyers or not liking fog or ramming into each other. The Mogami comes to mind at Midway.
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>>119631128
>Haruna < Haruna
This is not daijoubu.
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>>119633806
B-But muh battleshipus are so strong on my favorite flash game, Japan can't be lying to me! They're the strongest navy in the world it must be true.
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>>119632039
Who is translating this anyway?
Some anon?
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>>119633747
>>119633762
This actually was translated in-game with the inability to commit assets sent for Aleutian island campaign for the Midway portion.

Anime following through with this is more than likely.
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>>119633776
Superior Aft View
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>>119633957
Rips from crunchy. CR seems to fuck things up though, occasionally missing pages.
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Kirishima a best.
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>>119633852
Cause Kancolle maps and 4koma all reflect real life battles. Tokyo express expedition runs were the rat transportation runs carried out by the DDs, and Operation Kon event really took place in 3 phases as it did for the IJN.
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>>119634073
So why not discuss the 4koma instead of real life? Since the 4koma is actually related to this board and doesn't belong on /k/.
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>>119634129
How about you just take your opinion somewhere people care?
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>>119634022
Well, I haven't read it in a long time so I will catch up now, I'll see how bad it is.
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>>119634173
Not him, but I do care.
>>>/k/
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>>119634173
You could go where people are supposed to discuss real world battles, like /k/.
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The IJN had a few things going for it -- they pioneered large scale multi-carrier flight operations. The Hotels weren't the very most ingenious designs, but they were incredibly powerful and heavily armoured. The Zeroes were very good for their time and place. Japanese torpedoes were very good. The experienced IJN pilots were probably best in the world at naval aviation. They had some good night battle tech.

But high quality strategic thought? Nope. Politics and bullshit plenty of that. Shitty fire control. Lots of trashy design choices (like a command deck that was the size of a small apartment living room, etc and so on).
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>>119634239
Fuck off
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>>119634239
It's kinda like the Fog in Arpeggio. Superior tech and whatnot but still trumped by superior human tactics.
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>shipgrils not blowing themselves up

This anime is completely out of touch with its real history. Shit show.
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>>119634435
Magic
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>>119634239
I am not going to diss the hotels when it comes to innovation. The first true use of bulbous bow to reduce drag were on the hotels, and that they had outstanding turning radius for any battleship.

IJN were unparalleled in torpedo squadron surface action, especially at nighttime. Only the RN had any comparable training at night battles.

How is this shit relevant to the animu? Yasen warrior CLs and DDs were meant to wreck shit at night, and they rightly do in-game.
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>>119634398
They're fighting with their arms tied behind their backs though. If they were serious humanity would be dead within a few days.

>>119634435
They could at least show the abyssals die. It seems far too clean.
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>>119634435
>>119634465
Go talk to Mutsu about that. That third turret, man.
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How can one crane be so comfy?
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>>119634435
Mutsu might oblige.
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>>119634579
By being newer than Kaga despite have great and powerful powerplants. 160000shp.

git rek, Kaga.
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BTW, notice how Anchorage Hime had no air support whatsoever? Is this lack of Abyssal air power going to be a "thing" throughout this anime?
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>>119634239
The Japanese poorly managed their more limited resources. You hear particularly with the Yamato design that they went for quality over quantity, knowing they couldn't match America's production and yet they wasted so many ships and planes, experienced crews and pilots, on the dumbest things because of "muh honor".

You can only wonder what would have happened if they carried out the war in a slightly more rational manner.
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>>119634530
I'd rather talk about turret placement with Ise, those black bodysuit are delicious.
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>>119634743
Nobody likes Ise.
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>>119634398
Yeah superior human tactics....you mean how a special Fog loli sub just happens to follow a kid and they go to build their fleet with other female ships. You should watch Tenchi or Sekirei. Arpeggio is just a harem story.
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>>119634712
It's just the first episode, how should know?
But Wo is popular so she should be included.
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>>119634712
Considering the focus on Wo, I doubt it. They're saving abyssal air power to shock the protagonists in the next fight, when Fubuki thinks it's going to go easily with the Akagi/Kaga curbstomp again.
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>>119634712
Abyss Jets soon fellow Admiral.

>>119634718
Knowing they'd be pounded if they couldn't pull off their Pacific Campaign in less then a year was a major factor in Japan's strategic retardation.
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>>119634769
Shut up Yamashiro
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>>119634712
I get the feeling they were taken out already by the previous battle. Besides, 1st CarDiv wouldn't have had any issues even if there were Abyssal air cover.
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>>119634718
On the other hand, they didn't even consider getting serious about mass producing carriers until the disastrous showing at Midway. Unryu class was partly shelved until then, and it was only at the 11th hour that the design bureau finally went along with using arc welding to save time with their construction.

Matsu/Tachibana class escort DDs came on the scene way too late as well. The Japanese shipbuilding industry couldn't replenish the losses just in first class DDs, yet the idea of making more economical vessels weren't really taken to account until it was all too late.
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>>119634811
I see thinking isn't your strong suit.
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>>119634811
Except that there isn't much haremy about it. Only takao obsesses about gunzou. Iona is more like an imouto looking up to her big bro. Well, there's kotone but she's busy scheming things together with yamato.

There are dozens of other girls who aren't interested in his vibration warhead.
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Best Kongo
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>>119634842
>>119634977
You should delete your posts here and post them there instead
>>119631661
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>>119634887
Face reality
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>>119634889
>superior nipponese fighter flown by venerable spirit of ancestors

Who thought this was a good idea?
Who looked at Japanese planes and said "Yeah, this can take out an alien Hornet, no problem."
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>>119635192
Fairy magic makes it fine.
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>>119634435
Well, there is Mutsu
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>>119635230
Sacrifice more fairies for glorious nippon.
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>>119634964

School Takao is elder god tier. She really is absolutely stunning.
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>>119634398
But the Japanese had shitty fire control systems even with those absolutely large guns while the Americas had Radar FCS on even 5 inch guns.
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>>119635383
I expect the groups running into each other. Takao & Co., Haruna & Co and the central government. The MMs are terrible at evading intelligence services. 402 is about as subtle as a honking clown parade.
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>>119635514

402 and Zuikaku were probably the worst pairing when it comes to trying to keep a low profile around humans
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>>119634048
>>119633981
Will Kirishima ever get to wear this again?
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>>119635514
As expected of non-modern naval ships.
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>>119635617
Only if Yamato gives her some of her Yamato, if you know what I mean.
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>>119635617
She never did in the manga.

And I think she had the opportunity to restock on nanomaterials by now, e.g. she could have asked maya for some, but she didn't for makie's sake. There's a mini-kirishima inside the bear though, I guess she could wear a downsized version of that if she wanted.
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