>Oreimo Grand Cross won't work on Windows 8.
>Even compatibility mode doesn’t work.
>The window just opens for a split second then closes immediately.
The anime was so shit, I was surprised we did not get an Kuroneko ending.
The LN is way better.
Incest is pretty much only hot in fantasy with imaginary imoutos or lewd milfs. My sis isn't a cute imouto, and my mom is not a hot milf, so I can't say that incest is really a hot thing for me. I don't think that people who are into that kinds of anime are directly into incest, fantasies are always different from reality. I dont't even know if I wanted to fuck a family member if anybody in my family was fuckable.
I don't really like "wetness" in any art but everyone seems to do it.
Yes, it's hot. It's like a bead of pure lava, trapped in your chest.
Some people let it sit there, burning a hole in their heart. Some people remove it, before it hurts them and those they love. Some people handle it wrong, and do just that.
Some people get to see it spread, and widen, and become a fertile new frontier.
That's for the realm of fiction though. The world isn't a kind enough place to let it happen.
Actually Sora is posting on /a/ and getting trolled, which Haru finds amusing because she's cute when she's angry over trivial shit.
I dunno but they have internet.
Nah it's more than that, I think they got cable broadband internet out there from what I remember Haru complaining about in the VN when he was walking it all home.
Sora's hair is just beautiful. It also acts properly too. I don't know what's wrong with the hair in Oreimo, but someone in charge of animation fucked up because the first thing that comes to mind is plastic wig. Only in the first OP does it not look like shit.
Not even attacking the series, I shouldn't be surprised by A2, the same fuckers who ruined Seitokai no Ichizon Lv.2.
I do indeed love Sora's hair. YnS is one of the few times where I noticed something like pic related, where her hair actually acts like hair, holding onto things and just kinda flowing everywhere when it isn't styled.
Short hair is fine, but looks too simple or uncreative a lot, like long hair that just hangs straight down rather than spreading out.
Infinitely better than cropped, though. Shit that isn't even below the neck and without anything special is just terrible. For Oreimo, compare Sakurai's hair, which is decently grown, to Manami's, which is exactly the shit I'm talking about.
I watched that shit with my imouto back when DVDs were first starting to become a thing. Imagine my surprise when I found out it had incest in it. It's not that great but I remember the bedroom scene between the siblings very clearly
>reading VN and imouto route
>hinting at NBR
super incest because incest parents
Today was a good day.
Do the parents and offspring have an incest tsunami foursome?
I once saw a doujin with three generations of incest.
Girl gets pregnant with twins from her brother, it's revealed their parents are siblings, then there's a time skip where the third generation kids are fucking.
The best is when the third generation is produced by both the first and second, with the first son knocking up the mother and the first daughter being knocked up by the father.
It's fiction you numbfuck. If the author doesn't want retardation or eleven toes, there isn't any retardation or eleventh toe.
If only incest parents in 2D would happen more often. Finding out mommy and daddy are brother and sister adds a whole new dimension to lovey dovey shit.
We all know incest is unavoidably bad when it stacks up, but if the sister from the 2nd generation is hopefully born infertile, there's nothing to argue against. Yes, I support the idea of cute girls who can't bear children. Doesn't have to be a lot. It also frees Onii-chan from the worry of knocking up his imouto.
Was it actually a doujin or just a regular h-manga? This is important because I remember reading an h-manga and if what you read was a doujin, then it means there's a triple incest story I haven't read and I want to.
What's wrong with that? If a girl can't get pregnant, her's and MC-kun's lives can belong to each other. If one of them dies, they don't have to move on, they can just follow right after.
1. You're in an incest thread.
2. You have a close relative you can cum inside without repercussions.
3. You obviously haven't done so.
Why even bring that shit up if you have nothing to deliver?
I'd like to make a side character pair of siblings with the most in-your-face subtext of all time. They're described as being each other's most precious "worth more than the company of any other girl or boy" and both opt out of relationships in order to spend all their time together. The sister is barren and mentally unstable, but a perfect specimen of imoutits. The brother is an alright guy otherwise, but extremely overprotective and never lets her out of his sight for any reason. Also, their parents are dead and they have the house all to themselves 24/7. In the epilogue they're shown to be still living together and never having once dated or having even looked at anyone.
There. I've made a scenario for incest subtext vague enough to slip past normalfaggots, but strong enough that any /a/non can see exactly what's going on. Otaku wouldn't give a shit because they'd be focusing on their waifu in the main cast. These 2 have no major impact on the story, so there's nothing to think about.
Incest successfully snuck into mainstream SoL or haremshit.
I've read this and cannot for the life of me remember it's name, at this point it's just a title in the dozens of incest titles I have favorited on the panda.
Found it, and holy hell do I have a lot of incest titles saved.
No, Hiromi was just a childhood friend. It was a lie MC's mother told her, that she was his illegitimate sister, so she wouldn't try to be with him.
It's terrible to be honest, mostly because the bait and switch. Have one girl having the most development and interaction with MC and then, he goes for another because he loved her already from even before meeting the main girl.
Kind of like Mashiro-iro symphony, but the girl who won was also a bitch.
I don't remember anymore, maybe because she just didn't like her.
It's ok for what it is: drama/romance. People talk about it because a large group of shipper retards didn't expect the ending even though it was pretty obvious where it would go.
I were to compare it to anything it would be to nagi no asukara. Literally the same shit if you've seen that.
I totally forgot then. It's not like they ran away together like the twins in myself;yourself though. The only ending I remember for Noe was
breaking her legs thinking she was a bird
They released Windows 8 patches. You can find them on http://grandcross.net/main.html
http://shared.com/hhl6b8cook?s=l is the oreimo one if you can't into nihongo.
How dare you use the Touman's image to aid your stupid cause.
>you'll never have an imouto that wants to have your children and love has nothing to do with it
>imouto hangs around in Onii-chan's room
This trope never gets old. I love it.
Sometimes it doesn't make sense though. For instance in YnS Sora basically moves into Haru's room when they become a couple, the issue here is that the bed is in HER room, Haru sleeps on a fucking futon.
Fire Emblem Sacred Stones was clearly incestual. It was sold in the US and the incest wasnt really editted out.
I shipped them hard and I wasnt even really into it back then. Right just felt right.
Even though you misquoted me it's ironic because I was thinking about sacred stones as well.
It's actually my favorite FE game despite being easy and grindableAlso it's based in the middle ages sort of, wasn't incest way more common, especially between nobility or is that a myth?
Not a myth.
The core point is that it sold in the US. And there is not short supply of shipperfag art. Therefore, incest had wedged its way into mainstream a tiny bit. And I doubt SS was the only one with incest.
>Right just felt right.
Wrong thread. Nobody gives a shit, you cancerous fucks.
stick your tongue into your brother and calm the fuck down
Not him but this isn't an Oreimo thread, wanting to keep their retarded waifu wars out of this thread is perfectly reasonable.
Holy shit, this bastard is hilarious.
That has incest and is hot, but that ain't the one in that picture, for one thing the nee-sans name isn't Taiga it's Ayano. Probably same artist though, they look similar enough.
You didn't link that one, you linked this one.
I was right though, same artist.
You will never bath with your sister to make tripleS babies approved by the government.
Plenty of Narutards like incest and even the shitty kind of yurifags won't argue that brother and sister is pure love. There is no way to purge incest from /a/, no matter what any future normalfaggot mod thinks. It's locked down like otaku have the anime industry.
Isn't it wonderful?
>yurifags won't argue that brother and sister is pure love
>love between brother and sister
pure, bonus points for cuddlesex
>sister being a dick-craving slut who just happens to use her brother
not pure, but leniency for nii-san doing his best to keep her away from other dicks
>sister whoring around and some other guys roping the brother in
>hey, dudebro, look at that ahegao your sister makes, here come fuck her too
Quite the opposite, if anything incest between consenting adults has become more legalized or at least made exempt from punishment (even if it remains technically illegal under the law) in a bunch of countries. Even some murrican states.
Imagine if Kirino had someone like this guy as her big brother.
And lets face it, when incest is illegal it's usually in the obvious places, like parent-child where it can be clearly seen as sexual abuse.
In most places sibling stuff isn't illegal, but there's a heavy social taboo against it. It's just usually illegal to get married.
>only sexually desires her sibling she's grown up with since childhood and the one she loves
>not absolutely pure
Everyone already knows what happens on 4chan, especially /a/. No moralfaggots give a fuck about any fetish besides loli and mods have never done anything about it unless there's too much blogshit. Tumblrscum don't even come into threads to bitch. You don't ever have to worry about anything.
Incest between consenting adults is straight up legal in some murican states.
My little sister is passable at best and has a horrible face without makeup, we have absolutely nothing in common, and her bitchy tantrums make me hate her personality too. But I'd still fuck her just because she's my sister and incest is hot enough to overcome all of that.
An adorable loli wasted on a milf h-manga...
Oh well, it would have been ruined by being anal only anyway.
Nobility can only marry nobility, so most of them ended up marrying their cousins for generation after generation. It caused a bunch of disorders like hemophilia to pop up. Just google a pedigree from back then, shits crazy.
There were also tribes in other parts of the world that forced male/female twins to marry each other. Some because they thought it was a sign from the gods, others because they were afraid the kids had fucked in the womb and they couldn't guarantee their purity to anyone else.
FE4 has incest as a plot point.
13 lets you hook up second gen cousins with the exact same supports as if they weren't related.
8 can't imply hard enough, especially in the twincest paired ending
9/10 has the normal implications between sibling pairs, plus the Princess was raised on the same breast as two of her retainers, who are blood brother and sister, and they both are pretty overt in their desire to fuck her.
Basically all FE has incest implications.
There is no need to give a proper respond to something that is simply untrue.
Twin sisters > twin brother/sister > big brother little sister > father daughter > sisters > big sister little brother > mother daughter > mother son >>> half* > cousins >>> not blood related > normal
Prove me wrong.
I don't understand why an image response to another response, that really didn't have an argument to being with in the first place, makes you so upset. And the assumption pulled out of your ass should have been kept there too.
Are you new? You'll mostly see the smug images and the like on things that don't even deserve responses. Shit like bait, willful ignorance, "muh neko" etc butthurt, old and tired arguments and such. Nothing for you to get mad at still.
Wow, The nukes are really putting japans interest in incest into perspective.
selfcest is just taking incest one step further.
Even with twins you still have a different mind in the bodies.
Add clones (the hollywood kind) and they know each other even more intimately
Add telepathy/mind-link and they can even share their sensations.
It's simply cranking up the level of familiarity.
As much as I sing the praises of yuri and incest, only a fool can't see the ultimate pure love of genderbender selfcest. 2 different halves of the same person completing each other.
They're almost like faceless, bald fat NTR men
Incest isn't just familiarity, though. You can be more familiar with a friend of lover than you are with a family member. It's about the type of relationship you have with a family member combined with similarity from shared genes and a shared environment.
Selfcest and incest aren't the same at all. It's a totally different dynamic there.
I know exactly what's about to happen. Do not fucking derail the thread with this shit. Talk shit and throw around implications with reaction images and move on with the thread.
I don't know how incestfags can like that show when it's just low quality fake incest bait. The only thing it's good at is making you hard once per episode at best. That brings me to the conclusion that incestfags are simply shallow as fuck and don't actually care about the connection between the two parties. All they want is the idea of their fetish somehow being fulfilled with no regard to the actual dynamic itself.
Genderbender selfcest is delicious because it involves both parties sharing the same interests, weaknesses, personality and almost the exact same memories. They know each other perfectly and have to learn how to become comfortable with a reflection that they can't hide anything from. Hello, classic tsundere shenanigans.
It's NBRshit too. I'd like to see the sensei win instead, but know it won't happen unless it's a bait and switch love story where they let him go for his sake, which I know won't happen.
I can't truly get into blood related parental incest. It's inherently tragic; the other party has to be out of the picture by a failed relationship or death. And it may as well be loving a shadow in either scenario.
If they only share your DNA they are basically your twins, if there's memory links or other mental shenanigans then they're you.
For example, any given Misaka Imouto is Misaka's sister, but to any other Misaka Imouto she would be the same person.
I for one like the dysfunctional relationships attempting to emulate a normal one.
It has something of morbid curiosity. Like watching a car crash in slow motion.
I remember some doujin with an abusive father. Son kill him, stuffs his corpse in the bathtub and then takes on the role of good, loving husband.
>say that to my face and not over the internet
Yes. Your arm is not your family, it is a part of you. Just because your body parts can operate without a direct connection to one another doesn't mean its not still the same person.
Soliciting some horny solidarity from my depraved /a/nons. Not this boner killing reasoning.
/a/ sucks today.
I'm with you, anon. Having a cute daughter for a wife would be amazing. The purity of that love is enough to rival that between a girl and her onii-chan.
They can just ignore the backstory; or, if it's that important, use it as an event that pushed them closer together, or just have the daughter beat out the mom by being better in every way.
Why do moralfags care so much about incest? Isn't family taught in every religion to be precious? The only thing they can think of about incest is lust even though it and polygamy was done left and right by the most faithful and virtuous men and Adam and Eve are technically siblings.
i wanna read the light novel
I dont like kirino
did kuroneko win because i like kuroneko
I wount read if kirino won
How does 2ch feel about incest? Do they ever have these discussions?
Gross, no one wants to see a 50 year old man and an 18 year old girl make love. That shit is almost at the level of a faceless old man fucking a chick. Its absolutely nowhere near the level of an imouto and her onii-chan.
Even then a 26-30 year old and a 8-11 year old is still off-putting.. Then again im not a lolicon. Plus in my standpoint when you have a daughter its purely for taking care of her and loving her as a parent, I think it would be wrong to take advantage of that by pursuing her romantically and sexually. Especially at such a young age where she doesn't know what true love is. Where as, an imouto and her onii-chan both would be at the age of understanding love at a more mature mental age (usually 14-20). As well as the fact that they are much closer in age.
Time traveling would probably be the only way I'd see it working out effectively, as they could both be near or at the same age. As well as the fact they could be mature enough to realize their love for each other.In fact if you could point me to a manga that'd be interesting to see.
Just because it retconned a few things doesn't make it a reboot. S1-onlyfags are the worst.
Though I will admit that the story were the guys two daughters get him drunk and rape him night after night until they both get pregnant enough times to create an entire tribe made me fucking hard. S2 really toned down the fanservice to appeal to the mainstream.
Sorry hes not an edgy pedo like yourself. Fucking shit brained low life's who think people that dont drool over washboard little girls aren't as "cool" as they are. You are the reason why lolicons are despised.
>im not a lolicon
Besides, what if it's not you coming onto her? What if your cute daughteru admitted that she had a crush on you and wanted to explore lewd things with the person she loves most in the world and who most cares about her? Could you really say no to that?
I'm talking about the elitest pedos who flaunt they're boners over little girls like its their only redeeming quality. Some people just don't have the same taste, we may like women with tits. I don't care if you fat fucks are jerking yourselfs off to lolis, just don't think your high and mighty because of it.
grade A example
Really depends on alot of things. How old she is, what events has transpired for this to happen, and how old I am. If shes younger than 12 she shouldn't be having so many lewd thoughts to the extent of wants to do them with her father to begin with. If shes older, I honestly don't know what to say, I'm not a father. However, as a healthy straight male I may have to go with yes.
Ayase best girl
Kyousuke GOAT brother
Deal with it.
None of that matters, anon. This is your daughter, the light of your life, and right now she's looking up at you with those big eyes so full of love that you could swear there were little hearts in them. All she wants is to share that love with someone whom she trusts 100% to treat her with the gentle affection she longs for, that she deserves.
Will you accept her feelings? Or will you break her heart?
>you will never have lovey-dovey impregnable date with your little sister who's acting like your girlfriend
Just kill me already.
You're making this really hard anon. I have morals, but I'll be damned if I have to say no to those eyes with hearts in them. If she was young I'd probably just say that I'll be with her forever and snuggle with her in bed, NOTHING MORE. However, if she was at the right age.... damn it you might have beat me...
From my use of google translate, 2ch is completely retarded and types completely random shit.
They have a board dedicated for train discussion.
I couldn't find the incest there either.
Guess it's time to go over there and start an imouto thread
Even then thats a rarity, and once you hit late 40s - 50s good old gray hairs and wrinkles will come. Then they'll be about as good looking a couple as Hugh Hefner and his 20 year-old bimbo wife. I'm just saying that time travel would be the most effective way to counter this dilemma, and even then a father and daughter relation just doesn't have that same pure love as a brother/sister one.
>Hugh Hefner and his 20 year-old bimbo wife
Only bad characters get to look like slobby fucks. A cool dad would obviously stay /fit/ and be one suave bastard for his loving daughter.
Not that any doujins ever get that far, most of them are frozen in time.
I have no imouto. I do not know that peace you speak of.
Well, at that point its just a matter of taste. I'm just not interested in father/daughter as much as bro/sis. It's probably because I self-inserting when I read, so as an 18 year-old anon its not interesting in the least if there is a portrayal of an old man going after his younger daughter. However a teen brother realizing his love for his imouto and likewise is much more entertaining to me.
>I'm just not interested in father/daughter as much as bro/sis.
I agree with you there. But I'm just saying that considering the usual storytelling conventions the relationship between them probably wouldn't be all that terrible as you think they would. It's not the real world after all.
And while you grow older your tastes may change somewhat. E.g. I'm 29 and like some college-age sibling incest. Christmas cake onee-san shacking up with her otouto to save on expenses. Hilarity ensures. Things like that.
>wouldn't be all that terrible as you think they would. It's not the real world after all.
Right, thinking more about it, if the age gap is reasonable I probably wouldn't mind it as much.
>while you grow older your tastes may change somewhat
Absolutely, I wouldn't find it as odd if a much older anon were more interested in father daughter. Hell, if i'm still into this stuff in the future I may grow fond of it.
> college-age sibling incest
Any examples come to mind? I've only read one and it was poorly executed so I never bothered with anymore.
No sorry, good examples are few and far between, none off he top of my head. Much to my dismay.
You know what is even rarer/practically non-existent? Christmas cake imoutos. I'd kill for that.
Yup, I've only seen them in hentai and even then I can only think of one off the top of my head. Hell, incest plot-focused stories are hard to come by unless they're shoujoshit or yaoi/yuri (I don't mind yuri but..). Oreimo proved there's a demand for it, so mangakas need to grow some balls, start thinking up stories and they'd be raking in the dough.
Christmas cakes are inherently old and busted. Imoutos get by on their innocence and youthful energy. They're incompatible archetypes.
If you've made it 25 years without falling in love with and fucking your sister, her being a disgusting old hag isn't going to change that.
You lack creativity. She could have been an annoying brat in her teenage years while onii-chan was a beta faggot. They couldn't stand each other's guts.
Siblings live apart in their early twenties, she mellows out, he gets his act together.
They need to move in together again for reasons and, tada, changed relationship dynamics.
>at that point they're just two horny old people without anyone else to fuck
Who still share a family bond.
But yes, it's all I ask for.
Why do idiots always say this? Quit trying to speak for other people.
I only ever see this half baked argument used for sibling incest.
People don't deny that parent complexes are a thing, because they can't deny it.
>only people without mothers are into mother/son
It makes just as little sense as the sibling comment, so I don't see why people think it's a strong argument.
Just accept that some people have fetishes and are attracted to things that you aren't.
It would be like me saying that no one is sexually attracted to feet, or scat or any of the other sexual fetishes I don't understand or see the appeal in.
>makes you hard
The standards sure gone low since Ishihara.
The whole evolutionary point of being a woman to make babies. Their entire physiology and psychology is geared for being mothers.
Denying a woman the ability to provide kids for her family is like denying a man the ability to provide food and protection for his family.