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Name a worse romance or love story.

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Name a worse romance or love story.
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>>119218805
Twilight
Time to go back to 2008, bye
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toradora
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>>119219024
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>>119218858
Nah, Sasusaku is way worse
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Toradora.

It's overhyped for what it is.
Shitty tsun wins again #376
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>>119218805
it is
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>he doesn't think it was true love
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>>119218805
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korra and asami
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>>119219637
it's like poetry
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>>119218805
Golden Time
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>>119218858
at least they had some positive interactions
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>>119219681
>tfw shoujo male leads are Sasuke-tier and they never say sorry
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Even SasuKarin was better. And that wasn't even really a romance.
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>>119218805
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>>119219939

>yfw Sasukarin was probably canon and then Kishi changed his mind AGAIN but never bothered changing Salad's design to compensate.
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>>119220000
NO
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>>119218805
I've got nothing because I've never touched Twilight and I never will.
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>>119219637

Look how he first frown and then he smiled. Autists can't do into body language.
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>>119219744
>Lindafags

>>119220093
You know it's gonna happen or Kubo's going to bring back Nel in the epilogue.
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>>119218805
Was there even any romance there? All we really knew was that Sakura thought Sasuke was cute. Beyond that, there was that one scene before he left and that hospital scene but that was literally it.
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>>119220072

Kishi compared Karin to his hemorroids. He hates her.

>>119219939
>SasuKarin was better

Sasuke was always disgusted and used Karin. She was nothing to him.
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>>119220093
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Could you even call Sorato a romance?

There were many signs or results.
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>>119220000
>>119220093

>quints

it's over
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>>119220093
>Parallels
>Narusaku all over again
Someone post that pic with the Ichihime theory shit post the IchiRuki one too to spice things up.
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Even by shonen romance standards Sasuke and Sakura as a pairing is just horrifying. It's completely fucking broken.
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>>119220156
At least Karin was so over-the-top that Sasuke's douchebagness look like a running gag while Sakura suffered for it
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>>119220172
weren't, meant to say weren't, fuck.
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>>119220174
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>>119220072

Sakura was created with Sasuke. Karin was added against Kishi's will by the newest editor. He never wanted Taka to happen.

You're blind to not see why Sakura won and why he insulted Karin's feelings as fangirl, obsessive and lustful.
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>>119220156
So you mean she was exactly like Sakura for 698 chapters?
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>>119220174
>Them muscular forearms
>Them muscular necks
Muh autism is too strong gotta lie down.
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>>119220140
>implying Koko was the best choice
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>>119220199

That was the point? Karin was just comic relief, like Lee's feelings for Sakura. Both were hopeless suitors. Sasuke's fate was to stay with Team 7 as overchachiving arc. Hooking up with the chick who represented a dark and edgy fate makes no sense at all.

Sakura was always going to end up with him because she's the only girl in Team 7.
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>>119220177

>Ichihime
>Not completely baseless one sided obsession

Oh anon...silly anon..
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If Sasuke was ugly Sakura would have never given a shit about him.
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>>119220251

No, Kishi praises Sakura's love for Sasuke and likes Sakura a lot.
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>>119220251

Seriously, she "loved" a guy that ran around being a fucking psychopath and even when he was present in Konoha didn't give her the time of day, then he comes back with a half-assed apology and she's ready to accept his demon semen.
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>>119220340

If Hinata was ugly, would you give a shit about her?
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>inb4 shitstorm
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>>119220405
Nagisa dies.
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is aqua a lesbo?
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>>119220340
this
imagine if Naruto's and Sasuke's looks were swapped
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>>119220426
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>>119220479

Everybody in Naruto is butt fucking ugly because Kishimoto can't draw for shit
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>>119220348
Yea Kishi obviously likes SasuSaku and agrees with it's message but that doesn't mean it's not terrible and that most of the readers didn't hate it. Kishi complained about how unpopular Sakura always was in a recent interview.
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sasutachi is the only answer
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>>119220504

Except Madara
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>>119219861
Dat ass
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I don't remember there actually BEING any Sasusaku moments in Naruto.

I remember Sakura pined for Sasuke a lot, but I don't remember them having any actual moments beyond when he left the village.
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>>119220249
Shame, as Suigetsu and JÅ«go are great. Karin.. Less so.
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>>119220507

There was supposed to be a message there?
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>>119220320
>Naruhina
>Sasusaku
Oh anon history is on my side.
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>>119218805
you probably know who I put.
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>>119220340
A big problem was that he talked about a fangirly looking crush over looks like it was true love. Sasuke showing even the slightest bit of affection for her instead of just constantly calling her annoying and trying to kill her would have went a long way in portraying that she didn't just like him for his looks.
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>>119220573

>Comparing Kishimoto to Kubo
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>>119220140
>You know it's gonna happen

I'm not saying that ichiruika is going to happen but orihime has had nothing but death and sadness flags from the get go. Even when bleach had tons of shipping bait in the first arc she just got death flags
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>>119220507
Most of the readers don't hate it. They're indifferent.
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>>119220602
>comparing anyone to Kubo
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your parents
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>>119220340
>>119220479
Sasuke's DARKNESS could compesate his looks
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>>119220573
Neither of those were one sided. You're just bad at reading comprehension.
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>>119220602

Kubo is one fashionable sexy motherfucker!
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>>119220557
Women should stick to abusive assholes no matter what. Japan find a woman's loyalty toward a man as endearing
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>>119219748
Go to bed Shrooms
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>>119220602
>Kubo had less talent than Kishi
You think he's gonna some how wow us in 20-40 chapters by giving either ship proper development? Either ending is gonna be shitty anyway so I'm not really invested enough to argue. Agree to disagree?
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>>119220673
This is Naruto, not shoujo.
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>>119220000
>>119220174
>>119220218
>jackiediazposting in 2015
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>>119220617
The female fanbase fucking love it though and they were vocal enough to change the ending.
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Aquarion EVOL
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>>119220657
Naruhina I can agree. But aside from part 1 where in the fuck is Sasuke's love for Sakura?
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>>119220687

Ichiruki has had plenty of development to say they got together in the epilogue.

What manga have you been reading?

Ichihime has had no development though, beyond Orihime being a complete psychopath
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>>119220697
Kishi should write shoujo. I think he'd make a better job than writing shounen, or at least the readers would appreciate his work unironically. Maybe if fantasy shoujo was still a thing.
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>>119220706
>Implying Naruhina wasn't a side-effect of Sasusaku
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>>119220743
I'll be honest I haven't really been paying attention to Bleach aside from speed reading the chapters since Hueco Mundo so you could be right.
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>>119220784
Cassidy Please.
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>>119220340
Well she still loves him even though he's now an one-armed Mexican hobo with heterochromia.
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>>119220733
This is why I keep saying Sasuke should have had actual DARKNESS manifest from him during the final battle and once he finally gets his ass fully kicked it fades away or some shit and he becomes an alright guy. It would have been a whole new level of retarded, but it would have actually made sense and made DARKNESS something other than just shitty overblown angst.
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>>119220804

Ichigo jizzing to the thought of Rukia on valentines day.
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>>119220809
>Implying that doesn't make him hotter
You know shit about women
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>>119220784
It's the other way around. NaruHina and Hinata were the original ideas for the story and SasuSaku was it's partnet for some reason. NaruSaku was paired with SasuKarin for again some reason I don't understand like in this teaser.
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>>119220840
He doesn't have an eyepatch, a mustache or amnesia after a near fatal accident.
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>>119220733
Naruhina needed to retcon Naruto's backstory with a movie instead of growing up organically because Kishi can't write romance
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>>119220858

Good fucking god Kishimoto's art is ugly.

Thank god Kubo is a decent artist.
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>>119218805
school days.
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>>119220218
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>>119220913
>implying it didn't already happen with the Rasengan training flashback
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>>119218805
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>>119220858
And Kishi's original idea for Naruto was a magic school a la Harry Potter but his editor suggested ninjas. It's useless to speculate of what could be. The thing is that Sasusaku was huge, way bigger than Narusaku while even Nejihina was bigger than Naruhina.

>b-but muh poll
Hinatafags were divided between shipping Hinata with Naruto, with Neji or with themselves
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>>119220933
At least mc died at the end.
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>>119218805
Love Roma
Hating Girl
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>>119220970
Hinata was some weirdo that gave Naruto an inspirational speech when he needed it, not his first only friend
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>>119220918
Girls in Naruto were actually fuckable before he started copying the anime's art. Backgrounds are pretty sweet, but the characters themselves just look absolutely terrible.
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>>119220992
Everything you said was retarded in my eyes. At least provide some proof.
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>>119221040
That was The Sauce.
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>>119221054

Bleach's anime has only successfully copied Kubo's art once.

For a Ichiruki filler
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>>119220858
Seriously fuck Kishi.
The fact that Karin was an Uzumaki could have been such an interesting plot point
but he ditched this because muh shipping.
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>>119220913
They didn't need to rewrite it. Are you saying it was literally impossible to just build on where they left off? No. Kishi thought it would be cute to add in a scarf into the love story because his wife gave him a scarf.
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>>119221004
You son of a bitch.
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>>119220520
Madara is best girl, best villain, best character and best grandpa
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I actually thought Sasuke would wind up alone. He never showed any attraction to any girl despite tons throwing themselves at him. Why does everything have to have shipping shit. It made more sense for Sasuke to end alone based on the story written.
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>>119221150
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>>119221145
The same way he retconned Gaara's backstory because his father died?
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>>119221188
>moe Madara

>>119221195
At least Kakashi didn't get forced with anyone.
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>>119221195
So Kishi can make his SasuNaru OTP happen with their kids only this time it isn't gay.

Sasuke did show feelings for Sakura in part 1 but everything regarding him went to shit when edge and darkness kicked in.
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>>119220992
Kishi original idea was a cooking manga, what the hell are you talking about?
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>>119221201

True.

Kishi retcons backstories a lot. Naruto and Sasuke's brotherhood didn't even make sense until Kishi pulled some childhood flashbacks out of his ass for the first Vally of the End fight.
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>>119221280
No he never showed any romantic feelings (attraction) for Sakura ever.
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>>119221295

Honestly I never got the feeling anyone on Team 7 gave half a shit about each other like Kishi made it seem.
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>>119221195
The landwhales would literally eat Kishi alive if he didn't make a sasusaku end. Nip fujoshis aren't as delusional as western fujoshis so they knew narusasu was imposible
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>>119220743
Its not gonna have this kind of ending.
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>>119220967
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>>119221195
Sasuke's epilogue made a lot more sense if we see him as a closeted gay trying to fulfill his duty as a man and having a family but he doesn't want to stay with them.

>Sasuke and Sakura's honeymoon
>Sasuke whispering "Naruto" while having sex with Sakura
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>>119221412
>landwhales
>literally eat Kishi alive
>literally eat
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>>119221446
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>>119221372
Team 7 was a dysfunctional mess. Naruto got along better with others than his own team.
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>>119221446
Has a dumb bimbo like Orihime ever won?
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>>119221551

The thing is, it could have worked very easily.

Naruto was written as a kid ostracized by his entire community and he never knew why and he's finally put into a situation where he can have friends, and even though he and Sasuke didn't see eye to eye there was plenty of potential for a real friendship, especially since Sasuke didn't have much tolerance for Sakura's shitty attitude towards him.

Instead Sasuke minds his own business for half the Chunin exam arc, is ABSENT for most of Tsunade, and then suddenly we're supposed to bring him back and think Naruto is doing anything more than what he was obligated to do.
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>>119221446
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>>119221682
Kishi said he wanted to do more missions before the chunin exams but his editor declined.
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>>119221902
>but his editor declined
How beta is Kishi?
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>>119221708
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>>119221551
Fuck Team 7. Kishi tried so hard to make us believe it was special but it will always be the worst group in the entire manga.

Taka was completely dysfunctional and they still came off as a better team unit.
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>>119220913
What got retconned? Oh wait, nothing.
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>>119222075
Because they only had two arcs together. Then Sasuke left the village for about 3/4 of the series.
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>>119220733
Love? Never said he loved her but he clearly cares.
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>>119222125
Well the Narusaku are saying that kishi is taking sakura's scenes and reappropriate them to Hinata. For example, Sakura being bullied by boys.

Imagine the Narusaku getting pissed if kishi makes a naruhina version of the bench scene.
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>>119222172
Naruto always came across as a lunatic whenever he ranted about the eternal bond he had with Sasuke when the manga only managed to show them as little more than casual acquaintances.
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>>119222125
>>119222486
Hinata was Naruto's only friend at some point during their childhood but Naruto ruined it, despite it was never mentioned it or even implied.
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>>119222587

Hinata was never Naruto's only friend. The flashback was just Naruto saving her from bullies.
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>>119222587
Hinata was the only person that didn't consider Naruto an useless retard but she wasn't his friend by any means.
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>>119221902

>Muh editor

Why is it every mistake comes back to his editor?
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>>119222587
>Hinata was Naruto's only friend at some point during their childhood but Naruto ruined it

You seem to be going by false info. The movie never portrays Naruto and Hinata as ex-childhood friends.
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>>119222587

>Implying

Flashbacks show Naruto associating with everyone in that year BUT Hinata it seems like.
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I've translated this shit as much as I can if people wanna check it out.
TL
>Naruto: Yawn
>Ah... I'm tired...
>Toothpaste's gone, huh...
>...!
>... It's gotten kinda long, huh.
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>>119222923
>Hinata: ... ....?
>.... !!
>His hair...!!
>Wh-what do I do...
>My voice...
>My voice..!!
>Naruto: Sakura-chaaan!
>Uwa- what's wrong?
>Sakura: naruto- that head!
>Naruto: I cut my hair!
>Does it suit me? Does it suit me?
>Sakura: Heeeeh, it's kinda... atmosphere-changing, isn't it?
>Naruto: Heheeh, right?
>Sakura-chan, that hairstyle suits you too!
>Sakura: ... But I cut mine last month
>Hinata: I'm no good...
>Even now I can't call out to him...
>I haven't grown up since then.
>Once more I'm just looking at Naruto-kun's back.
>I musn't....
>I won't go yet...
>sfx: WAPU (WHAM)
>Kiba: What're you doing?
>Shino: Hinata
>When walking, face firmly forward.
>Hinata: Shino-kun, Kiba-kun...
>Kiba: What is it, Naruto again?
>Pull yourself together.* If it's you, it'll be fine, won't it?
>Hinata: Kiba-kun...
>Kiba: Uwah! That guy's got a crewcut, Shino! Gyahahaha!
>Hinata: Kiba-kun...!!
>Shino: Stop it, Kiba. Hinata's mood will become bad. Moreover, that is not a crewcut.
>Kiba: Hinata, you're cool even with that? Ahahaha
>Hinata: Na, Naruto-kun, no matter what his appearance, is Naruto-kun...
>I-I think his current haircut also suits him...
>Kiba: [Damn it... needless damage.]
>Shino: That's why I said stop, Kiba.
>Learn this lesson well.
*= Unsure
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>>119222075
I never got what their team gimmick was. Looking at other teams InoShikaCho are a long running team of specialists. Team 8's abilities are made for tracking & recon. Team Guy are frontline fighters. Team 7 got nothing but a forced looking Sannin recognition near the end.
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>>119221902
>>119222785
How do you know that anyway?
Does Kishi rant about this on twitter?
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>>119222559

I agree.

Naruto had a stronger bond with Gaara for fuck's sake.
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>>119222957
>Kiba(?): On the whole that head is definitely too good for you!
>Naruto: Yo! What're you guys up to?
>Sakura: A mission
>Shino: That's right.
>Kiba: From here on we're headed to Hokage-sama's-
>Naruto: Hinataaa
>I've changed my image!**
>Sakura: I know that you're complimenting yourself while speaking to Hinata* (You're so embarrassing)
>Naruto: Hee hee hee
>Hinata.
>Oooi. Hyuuga-saaaan.
>Sakura: ...
>Hinata, could it be that you think pre-haircut Naruto was better?
>Naruto: !!
>Eh?
>Hinata: Eh?
>sfx: zuun (mortified)
>Hinata: It's a d... different Naruto-kun...
>Uhm... that's not it...
>Sakura(?): Hinataaa, let it gooo
>[She explained properly]
*= unsure
** Naruto's using a phrase here that mostly idols use to talk about changing their aesthetics
(?) = It's not clear who's speaking
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>>119222968

Team 7 were losers that were put together in hopes that they would either get sent back to school by Kakashi or actually achieve something together
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>>119222968
>I never got what their team gimmick was.

Team 8 were the weirdos.
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>>119223046
Here's where shit gets and headache inducing.

>[She said it suits him and he was praised]
>Sakura: Self-interested, aren't you?
>Kiba: Speaking of which,
>Sakura, your hair's grown out like it was long ago, hasn't it?
>Sakura: {untranslated}
>Hinata: Mm, it really suits you... (You look so adult, I'm jealous.)
>Sakura: Aw, Hinata, you're great!
>(C'mere you!)
>Kiba: Hinata, what if you cut your hair short too?
>Hinata: Eh?
>Kiba: It's getting pretty long, right?
>Shino: Mm. It may be that you change moods once in a while.
>Hinata: Since I'll look like a kid...
>Kiba: I'm not saying that!! I'm saying it's okay if you don't do the same hairstyle as back then. I'm saying a type like back then and now.
>Naruto: No way.
>Hinata, how you have it now is fine.
>If you cut it, that'd be wasteful.
>So, drop it.
>Okay?
>Hinata: ... Yes.

I couldn't figure out what the fuck Sakura was saying, something about her hair suiting her or some bullshit. It's mostly just filler dialogue.
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>>119223206

>Kiba: Daaaaah!
>I can't staaaaand this!
>C'mon, let's go, Hinata!
>The reason is that anything more than this and the damage will be unnecessary.
>Hinata: ?
>Y-yes
>W... well
>Later, Naruto-kun, Sakura-san...
>Sakura: Do your best!!
>Naruto: Do your best!!
>Hinata: Yes...
>Kiba: You're slow, Hinata!!
>Hinata: S-sorry...
[Team 8 text is virtually unreadable]
>Sakura: Welp, I'm gonna go shopping and head home.
>What about you, Naruto?
>Naruto?
>Naruto: Nah... I'm not hurt or anything...
>It's just, after talking with those guys for the first time in a while, I wanted to talk a little longer, is all.
>That's all!
>When I get back I think I'll treat myself to some ramen
>Sakura: ...
>[Really...]
>['Cause you were poking!]
>If you're going back, I'll go with you.
>Naruto: Really?! Great!
>Sakura(?): By the way, believe those guys.*
>Naruto(?): Nah, I know who the strong one is.*
*Not sure what this part means.
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>>119222559
The fact that Sasuke dropped his DARKNESS long enough to yell this was the redeeming part of this shit arc.
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>>119222968
Team 7 were what was left of the academy.
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>>119223259
And the omake, which I may have rushed a bit.

>Kakashi: I do not send two people in a relationship on the same mission.
>Naruto: Heehh? You're so cruel, Kakashi-sensei! I can't eat ramen when I'm worried!
>Text: [Happy, but extremely embarrassed->]
>Kakashi: Listen up. I'll entrust another other honor to you and you'll return, right?
>Bottom Text: They were boyfriend and girlfriend on a job... is what they thought, but
>He thought about their two personalities and decided not to put them together

Honestly, compared to the other really fucking long one I translated, this kinda wasn't worth it, but it's pretty much done. The empty spots can be filled by another translator. By normal pricing, this would've cost around 65 bucks to translate.
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>>119222923
>>119222957
>>119223046
>>119223206
>>119223259
>>119223392
Good work on those.

I translated this one (it's on danbooru) but I'm missing two things, the footnote (that has some kanji I don't recognize, that 冂 with a 白 or something inside) and that kanji that I really can't read inside the parenthesis on the last panel.
Any help would be appreciated.
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>>119223259
I'm pretty sure Kiba liked Hinata but got NTR'D
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>>119222559
The chaotic, sadistic mass of pure hatred and malevolence that destroyed his home and murdered his mother and father in cold blood while trying to kill him as a baby and left him an exile while living inside his very being his entire life was a better friend than Sasuke ever was.
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>>119223384
You mean the number one rookie and the son of a hokage?
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>>119223561

>mother dies at birth because of something her husband did

>child is responsible
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Does The Last mention anything about what happened to Orochimaru?
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>>119223535
He was like a big brother that Neji wasn't.
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>>119220518
kek
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>>119223615

No. The movie doesn't tie up any of the loose ends other than how NaruHina happened. The Boruto movie and the extra novels being released might cover the rest though.
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>>119223655
Are they LN?
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Sakura literally has no reason to love this plot device of a character, save for the fact that he is marginally more attractive than the blond kid

Actually, scratch that, she has no reason whatsoever to love him
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>>119219694
This or Makorra.

Hell Kuvira got beat by fucking TnJ and S1 felt like something straight out of Nardo.
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>>119223677
SS desperately needs some retcons in both their backstories.
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>>119218805
not even saved by claiming it's accurate for teens, just plain bad
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>>119223677
Sasuke's supposed to be really, really attractive. Rewatch early Naruto. Every girl mentions how much charisma and whatever he has.

The blonde haired , blue eyes kid is a noisy , annoying brat, that no one likes , of course.

Sasuke was literally apparently chick magnet.
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>>119222923
>>119222957
>>119223046
>>119223206
>>119223259
>>119223392

Kept seeing this get posted for the past few days. From the frustration it's apparently caused you, I think I can get now why it hadn't been translated up till now. Nevertheless, thanks for taking the time to translate it anyway.
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OH MY GOD SAKURA DON'T CALL HIM SASUKE-KUN, IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A FFFFFFFFFFFFFUCKING IDIOT.
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>>119223050
>Team 7 were losers

No.
Sasuke was a genius and a from an almost dead powerful clan and Naruto came from also another almost dead powerful clan and was the son of the 4th

Sakura had no right to be on that team.
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>>119223677
Florence Nightingale syndrome

She saw Sasuke as her cool, awesome and handsome classmate and had a childish crush on him, then fell in love with him when she saw that he was actually a scared, lonely kid tormented by his past and felt and felt that it was her responsibility to save him from falling into darkness and hatred.
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>>119223801

Both of whom were outcasts
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>>119223840

One of which had a demon inside him and the other came from a clan that was killed off because they were considered traitors
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>>119223535
Nah. I never got that vibe.
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>>119218805
Matt x Sora
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>>119223673
Yes.
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>>119223392
>compared to the other really fucking long one I translated
Wait, which one was that?
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>>119222486
Thats because NaruSaku fans are as dumb as Sakura was.
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>>119223655
Kishi already confirmed that the Bort movie will show what happened to Oro
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>>119223392
>the other really fucking long one
Oh, you did the comic where pic related is from as well? Thanks, anon.

But yeah, that long comic doesn't seem as good as the other ones.
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>>119223840
One of them should have never been an outcast thank you fucking Hiruzen, you fucking faggot.
It baffles me that no one in the Cloud ever tried to abduct Nardo when he had his mom's fucking last name.

I know Minato said they couldn't give him his name because the Stone Niggers would kill him in revenge but what the fuck was to stop those child kidnappers of the Cloud from taking a kid who has the same face as Kushina and is obviously an Uzumaki. Hell the Cloud who have crapped themselves when they realize he was the host of the Kyuubi.
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>>119223948
Everything he posted before, I guess.
It is hard work, I already have trouble recognizing typeface kanji, let alone handwritten ones.
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>>119223948
This post's image is from it.
>>119224052
http://a.pomf.se/krxogz.png
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>>119224060
The writer is horrible.
Everyone knows this.
Seriously, he didnt even plan for Naruto to last longer than the Sasuke fight at the Valley of the End.

Seriously.
Read the fucking series, there's way too many contradictions and weird long term events that contradict stuff that should have taken place earlier in the series. Like Sage Mode, Senjutsu actually being a thing, ect.

The writer made shit up on the fly.
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>>119223838
See that would have been acceptable by Shonen standards if Kishimoto wasn't determined on Naruto being the only one who can save Sasuke.
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>>119218805
Specifically Sasuke/Sakura? Nothing really comes to mind. If you're talking the franchise in general I would say there were some decent romances in there, barring screen time.

That said, we never really see the romance. They end up together but we haven't seen the gap after he leaves and comes back. There might be a story in there like with Hinata.
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>>119224060

Naruto's childhood is one massive plot hole. Not only is his lineage completely unknown despite it being so obvious, but there are multiple people who know about his parentage yet did nothing during his lonely childhood. Especially jarring for Jiraiya, who was his goddamn godfather. People give Hinata a hard time for not helping Naruto in his childhood, yet Jiraiya, Kakashi, and fucking Hiruzen are much worse in that regard.

Best not to think about it.
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>>119224207
Yeah I know that. I figure that out when I was 12 and read the last chapter of Part 1 with Sasori stating that Orochimaru left Akatsuki 7 years ago.

That makes no fucking sense since Itachi didn't join until 5 years before the timeskip.
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>>119224241
Kishimoto's insistence on making Naruto's life about saving Sasuke rather than being Hokage ruined the series.

I still believe that Sasuke ruined the series.
You cant have two main characters like that where they have their own thing going on you either have multiple main characters that take turns, or the main characters are buddy cop style shit, where they're always together.
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>>119224094
Well, I enjoy translating those even if they're tricky 'cause they're short and sweet. This one was just kinda eh. Naruto doesn't want Hinata to cut her hair. The end.
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>>119224306
>Jiraiya

He gets a pass because he was trying to keep the village, and Naruto to some extent, safe from Orochimaru and the Akatsuki. Kakashi and the Third however are full blown assholes.
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>>119224306
It can be summed up like this:

Hiruzen was a shitty Hokage
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>>119224371

The third was kind of an asshole and incompetent in everything he did anyways
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>>119224306
>Especially jarring for Jiraiya, who was his goddamn godfather.
He didn't know about it until he was about to go to his very last mission, I suppose? Otherwise, why would he say this?
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>>119224306
I think it's one of two things-

Either A: In japanese culture, it's totally fucking cool for kids to grow up without parents and lead lonely , sad lives.

Or B, the writer is complete shit.

I think it's A AND B, since apparently, Hiruzen, Tsunade, Kakashi, Jiraiya,- ALL THESE PEOPLE left a FUCKING CHILD grow up -alone- for 12 years of his life.

You get that, right?
That, doesnt even MAKE SENSE.
Is there no orphanage in Konoha?
Kids dont just fucking get sent to a home and like "Yo, here it is, son, your new crib.Aight, peace."

Think about it, for ONE second. The Leader of the Village, decided that the Village's WMD and son of the previous Leader, should be ostracized and never assured for his care. He never assigned a guard, he never even had anyone care for him.

Fucking, a-mazing.
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>>119224409
Because he's old and constantly drunk
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>>119224404
>>119224408

>Facing a dangerous villain and known body snatcher/jumper
>lel i seal your arms :^)

If anything he made shit even worse because correct me if I'm wrong but that's what caused Orochimaru to kick his Sasuke related plans into high gear
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>>119224465
>A: In japanese culture, it's totally fucking cool for kids to grow up without parents and lead lonely , sad lives.

Well it's not that since one of Sakura's first transgressions against readers everywhere was saying that Naruto was fucked up because he didn't have any parents to fellow orphan teammate Sasuke.
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>>119224409
Er, nope, there's a flashback where Kushina and the 4th TELL him that they're naming their kid after a character in their book.

So, no.
He knew.
And did nothing.
He didnt even spend a minute part of his life caring for him, or using his wealth as a wealthy shinobi to hire a nursemaid.Nah, he'd rather spend it on whores and crap.(He IS wealthy, btw, as an accomplished writer).

I genuinely believe the writer just....put shit together as he went along, and didnt think about how all this is horrible.

Or are japanese just horrible people with no love for family and friends?
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>>119224366
I'm the one who keeps posting that super fucking long comic because I thought it's all about Naruto trying to support Hinata in front of her worrying teammates (I can't read japanese) and I thought that final two panels is Sakura saying "Really, it's because you're dense!" (I thought it was 'nibuin') in the sense that Naruto didn't yet realize how much he cared about Hinata.

I'm sorry for putting you through that much pain for nothing.

Speaking of which, how many have you translated? Did you translate this one as well? This is back from early December 2014, I think.
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>>119224409
It's so funny Tsunade remembers her but acted like Naruto was a nobody when they first met.

Same goes for Orochimaru who knew both of Naruto's parents as well but treated him like he could never be as good as them despite Sasuke at 12 was way weaker than Itachi at 12.
Christ this shit pisses me off.
Especially the fact that Danzo wasn't invented until part 2.
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>>119224496
Sasuke already got the curse seal during the chunin arc, he was already branded as a possible body for orochimaru

but you are pretty much right, if the third just fucking killed him, sassgay might have turned out somewhat normal, stayed with the team, and combated against pain with Naruto and Co.
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>>119224496
He realized he couldnt win, so he thought "best thing I could do is stop you from casting spells", but apparently, that angle got completely dropped, since Orochimaru could totally do spells and shit, even though he shouldnt.
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>>119224409
I can give Kishi a lot of credit because he wrote a 700 chapter series knowing exactly where he was going with it for at least the latter 500 chapters, if not the whole thing. And he stuck to it.

But it's incredibly obvious some character relations were thought up during the creation of the series and add some minor issues.
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>>119224555
>I genuinely believe the writer just....put shit together as he went along, and didnt think about how all this is horrible.

He did. Of course he did.

Hell the biggest dilemma he had approaching chapter 700 was how the fuck he was going to write a way for Naruto and pals to even touch Madara Uchiha.

And then he invented Kaguya and made Zetsu a betrayer because that totally makes sense.
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>>119224617
He couldn't do hand seals anymore.

Then turns out hand seals mean jack shit.
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>>119224555

Kishimoto included Naruto's parents in mostly to mirror his own experiences as a father. It was the main justification for creating Road to Ninja after all. He obviously didn't really stop to think about the plot holes it opened up.
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>>119224579
I've translated quite a few, including the sequel to that pic. I wonder if the artist ever did another one of those.
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>>119224555
How did he not remember Kushina's fucking name?

I mean, holy shit, they named their fucking kid after him, and he couldn't remember her name?
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>>119218805
You shouldn't be able answer this question because you shouldn't have watched Naruto in the first place.
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>>119224657
And yes, I also translated the pic you posted, as I realized I hadn't answered your question.
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>>119224657
Fuck you, fanartists. I'm not supposed to feel like this for nurutu.
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>>119224706
Nope.This is the same man, who left to wander the world, and didnt ever come back during his godson's whole childhood. Also, he never even used a fucking fraction of his MASSIVE wealth to hire even a nursemaid, or a caretaker to ensure his GODSON was living alright.

He left him, aware of his existence, but not at all interested caring for him- even though he totally took care of three strangers before all that...

This is the same man, whose godson has to repeatedly BEG him to improve his ability to survive in his profession that feeds him and keeps him alive, but continously ditches him until he gets tired of driving him away.

Only then, does he bother teaching him...once.

You realize if I wasnt describing Jiraiya, you'd all think this was a completely shitty human being, right?
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>>119224843
Jiraiya is a really great guy though, all that shit is just Kishimoto's bad writing creating gaping plot holes.
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>>119224465
Hiruzen subscribed to the Ikari Gendo school of parenting.

>>119224554
>>Well it's not that since one of Sakura's first transgressions against readers everywhere was saying that Naruto was fucked up because he didn't have any parents to fellow orphan teammate Sasuke.
That was funny on a lot of levels, including that Sakura is practically an orphan except for one movie and one filler episode of the anime.
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>>119224827
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>>119224815
>>119224657
Wow, you're the guy who makes me want to typeset Naruto fanart in the first place.
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>>119224555
Was that anime only?
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>>119224783
>you should instantly know what is garbage tier or casual when developing a new interest

I'm sure you started out watching masterpieces when you up and decided to take on anime as an interest.

I started watching Naruto in 2003 when I was 15, and I'm going to finish watching it even though I am aware it's painfully flawed. Because despite it's shortcomings, it's fun and enjoyable.
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>>119224843
Enough with the fucking ellipsis already.
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>>119224991
No. It's the same scene where Naruto tells Kakashi he's naming her's and Sasuke's son after the coolest guy.
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>>119224843
He believed Nagato and the others to have died during the civil war.
His star pupil and his wife ended up dead too, who knows what happened to the other two, most likely also dead considering how many died in the 3rd ninja war.

If every young kid he invested his emotions in ended up dead, I could see why he might be hesitant to let himself care about another.
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>>119225041
...what.
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>>119224971
That comic has a sequel.
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>>119224901
Again, think about what I just told you.

Let's say I described that there's this:

Very, Wealthy, Powerful Ninja.
Whose student and friend dies, and his child, who is the Powerful Ninja's official godson- is left completely alone. So, instead of taking care of him, he leaves him completely alone as a baby, and does nothing to take care of him. Spends not a single cent for his care, and doesnt check on him once. Also, this same guy doesnt return for a good decade to even check if he's alive. And yet, this is the same guy, who also took care of three strangers on a whim for three years.

This same person later on never tells the kid anything about him, his family, or anything, treats him like a complete stranger, and tries to ditch him at many times when the kid BEGS him to teach him.

He then teaches him ONE thing, then dissapears for a long time, and doesnt even attend the tournament his godson was training for.

Great human being, eh?
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>>119224843
>caretaker to ensure his GODSON was living alright
In the shinobi world, adversity and challenge to survive makes you a stronger ninja. Naruto's painful lonely childhood made him strong enough to survive the challenges ahead.

I mean, obviously that's a copout, he simply didn't plan out the characters ahead of time far enough. But it's a decent excuse.
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>>119225045
Thinking like that for Jiraiya and for Hiruzen is putting too much faith in Kishimoto's writing skills.
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But anon maybe Jiraiya and Kakashi couldn't raise Naruto because of the emotional pain.

He looks alot like his dad and would be a constant reminder of the son/father that they failed to save.
That doesn't seem like a bad motive to me.
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>>119225071
>...

>>119225076
Nearly all the fanart I see in threads has better art than the actual series. This is ridiculous.
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>>119225138
So, instead of saving the kid and making it up to the guy they helped to save, they DOUBLE FUCK his memory by abandoning his kid?

AAA quality writing.
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>>119225180
>this is ridiculous
I know. It makes NH seem like far more romantic than it was in the actual manga.
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>>119225201
>helped

Don't you mean failed?
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>>119224906

Remind me, do we have Shikamaru to thank for the first time that happened too?
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Can Naruto keep going once Hinata dies?
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I find myself morbidly curious to see how Sasuke and Sakura got together.

What do they talk about?

What do they do in their spare time?

Who initiates their romantic moments?
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>>119225215
Naruto mearlu unleashes the strongest extant demon in the world in rage over Hinata being attacked.

If that aint love, what is.
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>>119225320

We know they have a daughter so for all we know Sakura just threw the pussy at him and as a serial killer and psychopath he wasn't in any position to do better so he got in there, found out she was knocked up, stuck around to keep up appearances for the villagers, and then peaces out to fuck other women.
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>>119225317
Welp, time to steal Sasuke's Rinnegan!
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>>119225317
>>119225400
No need.
By that point, he'll like have learned Edo Tensei.

Simple enough.
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>>119225320
Drunken one-night stand and then Sasuke returns to wandering the wastes as a super hobo.
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>>119225317
>implying Nardo will live that long
>implying Salad won't accidentally get him killed forming an extremely love-hate relationship between her and Bolt

Kishi loves forced drama.
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>>119225373
>If that aint love, what is.
The power of liking someone a lot.

I wonder if Kurama eventually grows to like Hinata.
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>>119225429
Naruto is the new Madara in Naruto part 4.
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>>119225317
>implying Naruto won't die first
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>>119225215
>>119225180
Movie Naruto is pretty romantic, though.

Honestly, there should just be a spin off manga about Hinata and Naruto doing lovey-dovey things, annoying everyone with their cuteness and honeymoon moments.
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>>119225461
I get some shitty feeling that he'll die in Bolt's movie or the short series for forced Will of Fire shit.
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>>119225476

Is there a character that can beat Naruto Uzumaki? And I'm not talking about The Last Naruto Uzumaki etc.
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>>119225468
Kurama just sleeps. He understands not this human rutting.
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>>119225476
Don't you mean the new Coolest Guy?
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>>119225499
>inb4 Naruto becomes the 'Neji' of Boruto x Salad
Sweet irony.

>>119218805
I would say Twilight but I'm pretty sure Sasusaku is still just absolute horseshit.
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>>119225520
Not in shonen, really.
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>>119225520
No. Sasuke wouldn't have stood a chance if all the tailed beasts weren't on hand.
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>>119225476
>Everyone thought it was all because Hinata died
>It was about Sasuke again
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>>119225520
Naruto is not even Muten Roshi-tier
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>>119225491

This image reminds me, anyone else get the feeling that every pairing that wasn't Shikamaru and Temari was drawn out of a fucking hat?
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>>119225491
Was there any spaghetti in The Last or am I going to be disappointed?
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>>119225491
>Movie Naruto is pretty romantic, though.
Yeah, because he's written by Kishi aided by other, more romantically-inclined writers and director.
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>>119225491
I wish Sasuke could have been around for shit like this just for how uncomfortable it would make him.

>Two total bakas
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>>119225627
Very little. After Naruto sees all the memories of Hinata in the genjutsu lake, he is much more self-conscious around her, but it doesn't stop him from acting pretty smooth.

He makes her laugh, he gets spider web out of her hair, he has her drink water from his hands, then he confesses to her.
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>>119220556

I agree with you with Suigetsu.
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>>119225476
Naruto being the badguy?

That'd be kinda cool.

How'd I write it...

An old, tired Naruto sees that the world he helped create just broke down, and that the peace he made was a fiction- a temporary peace created by a fear of Madara's power.

But time has passed. People dont remember Madara. Peace has ended. And with the rise of populations, so has nationalism in the Great Countries.And now ninja, those who endure, dont remember the meaning of their name.Elitism runs rampant, and now many ninja treat those without power like cattle.

An old man now dons an old, broken mask, to break the world he helped create.

Nah, nobody would read it.
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>>119221145

They retconned a lot with the movie. I'm a NHfag and I admit Kishi dropped the ball badly.
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>>119224971
I'm glad, then. It makes me happy to see others enjoying my translations.

>>119225076
Speaking of...
>Sakura: Huh? Naruto, did Hinata knit that scar for you again?
>Naruto: Ahh. I couldn't wind up the one I got at that time, so she knit it for me again.
>S: Heehh, how great!
>N: Yup! This scarf is super warm.
>Especially when Hinata and I are together, it almost becomes too hot
>[I wonder if it's because she used some sort of special thread?]
>S: [I get that he's an idiot, so it absolutely does not occur to him to compliment his wife... but I wanna give him one punch!]
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>>119225680
>Sasuke is forced into a double date, with Sakura as his date and Naruto/Hinata as the other couple
>Has to withstand pink girl trying to romance him
>Has to withstand Naruto and Hinata being super icha-icha
>Has to withstand Naruto trying to make him be good with Sakura
>At least Hinata gives no fuck
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>>119225737
>But time has passed. People dont remember Madara. Peace has ended. And with the rise of populations, so has nationalism in the Great Countries.And now ninja, those who endure, ?>dont remember the meaning of their name.Elitism runs rampant, and now many ninja treat those without power like cattle.
>ninja kuntalas
only if this is written by urobochi and directed by Tomino, I would watch this.
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>>119225002
You know, contrary to popular belief, anime is not this magical entity.
You should be able to recognize bad story telling narrative no matter what you're looking at.
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>>119225737
Naruto being a villain is just wrong. It's a bad joke that can't be taken seriously.

It's 12 year old fanfic tier.
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>>119225623
>Ino and Sai
She was attracted to him, and he called her beautiful, albeit he actually thought the opposite at the time.

>Chouji and Karui
What happened with them? They fought together and she called him fat, right?

>Kiba and Cat Lady's Granddaughter
I guess he thought cats and dogs together would be cute.

Honestly, I like it. I'd rather have characters we've seen interact get paired up, rather than have characters marry random strangers we've never seen and don't care about.
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>>119225783
>written by urobochi
Meh
>directed by Tomino
Where do I pay for this?
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>>119225806
I enjoyed Naruto. I don't think it's truly good, but I didn't completely regret it. Besides, I never touched the manga.
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>>119225744
I really like that thing where they had to write who they'd want to spend the last day of earth with.

Whoever wrote that should get a raise.
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>>119225809
It's always fun to try to take a bad idea and make interesting.

But like I said, nobody would read it.

It's not like people like seeing happy, peaceful, beloved Superheroes like Superman turn villainous, right?

That shit doesnt sell.
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>>119218805
It wasn't a romance or love story.
Two side characters end up together in the end.
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>>119225809
Maybe pre-Part I Naruto can become a villain, but post Part II it's just impossible. He's far too cheerful, far too powerful, far too protected by friends who shared his ideals to ever lose his way.

By the time he became Hokage at worst he becomes someone who does gray things.

Probably the only way to turn Naruto evil is to make him believe literally everyone turned away from him. Not just Hinata, Sasuke or Sakura, not just Kakashi or Iruka, not just Kurama and all the other Bijuu, not just the very Sage of Six Paths, but also the ramen guy.

Only then will he contemplate evil.
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>>119225865
That's just terrible.
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>>119225876
>It's not like people like seeing happy, peaceful, beloved Superheroes like Superman turn villainous, right?
>That shit doesnt sell.
But Injustice sold alot.
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>>119224241

Naruto saved him from darkness but Sakura gave him an anchor to the village Naruto couldn't provide, that's why he taps her forehead and promises to return.

He saw Sakura as someone he has to protect in Part 1, he was really downcast Naruto was the one to do it.

It's mostly Kishi sexism speaking.
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>>119225862
>anime
Sorry, poor choice of words. I should have said "Japanese mediums."
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>>119225954
You mean nip sexism.
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>>119225954
Kishi isn't sexist, he doesn't know how to write female characters. He didn't even want to write romance in the first place.
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>>119225954
>It's mostly Kishi sexism speaking.
Men protecting women is a pretty real thing, anon.
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>>119225777
>I couldn't wind up the one I got
Wind up? What does that mean?

>to compliment his wife
They're married already?
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>>119225908
>implying the ramen guy isn't the true final boss

Ever notice that he never opens his eyes

There's something even more bullshit than the Rinnegan behind there
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>>119225986
>he doesn't know how to write female characters
I keep hearing people say that, but Sakura is probably one of the more realistic characters in the series. She's flawed, but not flawed in a made up way.
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>>119225623
Essentially. I could see Naruto and Hinata but only because I knew Naruto and Sakura didn't have a chance in hell after the fake confession.
I expected Sasuke to end up alone. Kiba and cat girl, Ino and Sai, and Chouji and Karui was complete fucking lulz.
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>>119225744
Nothing got retconned.

Not one thing. :/

Serioisly, what do you think did?
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>>119223754
It's not accurate for teens but it's not bad for a love story.
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>>119218805
>insert any BL title here
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>>119225627
you're gonna be very hungry
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>>119226014
Hinata lines up with a character with Avoidant Personality Disorder.
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>>119218805
I really liked Sakura in the Last. I don't know if Sasuke deserves her.
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>>119225623
I wonder why people thought Shikamaru/Temari is so great and so obvious when they have even less scenes than NaruHina.

>First fight
>Tayuya
>Hospital scene
>Beginning Part II

I mean, I like it, but I honestly don't know why it's so obvious.
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>>119226014

She's one of the few ones that didn't forget this show wasn't about fate and destiny and BS reincarnations...

I'm so mad at the Ninja Jesus shit.
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>>119225627
He accidentally confesses but thats about it. He recovers and stuffs pasta back in.
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>>119226067

It's been subbed?
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>>119226078
Because they're two side characters. People laugh as one is a feminist, the other a misogynist.
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>>119226078
It caught me off guard. Kishimoto had basically admitted that Shikamaru is his Gary Stu crush and had said he didn't want to write romance for him. I assumed that meant that Shikamaru would end up alone, so Kishimoto could keep him "pure".

I'm glad he got them together, of course.
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>>119226078

I think there was a serious lack of screentime on Temari's part since Shikamaru is probably the most prominent of the 12 outside of team 7.

I think Kishi just took it for granted that we knew they'd end up fucking by part II and just dropped it.
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>>119226095

Not yet, I watched it when I went to Tokyo. NH is my OTP, but I think Sakura came out as the best bro, her relationship with Naruto is pretty solid big sister/little brother. Sasuke couldn't even be this for Naruto.
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>>119226048
Shut up.

Chintsubu has a far better romance between a man and his penis.
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>>119226095
There're camrips for about 30 minutes of footage, and we have multiple summaries.
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So this is a thing now. I am not surprised and was expecting eventually but I am surprised it is Yumi out of all people.
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>>119225994
I would have personally hunted down and shook Kishi's hand if Naruto and Hinata got together shortly after the war and when he takes her to Ichiraku for lunch Teuchi acts all cheerful as usual then suddenly opens both eyes and pierces them both in the heart with Rikudou rods before fading to black.

>final page is "A ninja must see underneath the underneath"
>Kishi and Kubo disappear shortly before the final chapters release

>>119226032
>:/
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>>119226176
Edgy kid edgy.
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>>119226078
They interacted more than once. That's all you need to make it obvious.
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Does anyone know if the Last Director will do the Boruto movie? Because I can trust him with female characters.

I don't want Kishimoto writing Salad.
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>>119226173
>>119226155

Any dates on when we might have a torrent with subs?
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>>119226230
A full camrip could come by the end of January. But the BD won't be out until summer.
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>>119226230
Laterb in the month with shit flip subs.
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>>119226264

As long as it has subtitles I'm fine with it
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What if Kubo had written Shitpudding?
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>>119226338
It wouldn't end.
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Even more asspulls. Also Nurutu would be an uchiha too.
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>>119218805
EVOL
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>>119226379

And be a direct descendent of the first and would have been 33.5% demon
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>>119226379
Sasuke VS Danzo?
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>>119226078
Quality over quantity. What was built up was good (and MUTUAL, something that is so rare in this manga), but honestly, by the end of the manga they had very little moments and after Kishi said he wouldn't pair him up, it was a pleasant surprise.
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>>119226338
There is actually no Madara. Just Danzo.

Except there's no Danzo either. He was a twin of the Third.

The Third turns out to not exist as a 'man' either, as it was an illusion on the entire Konoha.

Created by the Fourth.

Who's mind-controllled by Kurama.

Who is actually literally Naruto, but he manages to create an 'alternate' personality that becomes Naruto.

Jiraiya knew this, but he didn't tell him as he's planning to fuse the two personalities using a specific sealing method.

Sakura would win.
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>>119226471
Would Sakura be more tolerable at least?
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>>119222982

That's because Gaara becomes Naruto megabro after his arc.

I mean, pretty much every scene of Gaara's was him asserting how much he cares for his village AND Naruto.
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>>119226538

sakura would get strong and unique powers quickly and then never do anything again
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So who did the best?
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>>119222982
I bet Naruto had better bonding with Akamaru than he is with Sasuke.
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>>119226574
Gaara is easily the second most Naruto-sexual person in the series.
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>>119226175
I like the jiraiya ghost in the background.
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>>119226175
Is the ninja girl (from Senran Kagura) even straight?

Is she herself aiming for Hinata?
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>>119226134
Well, Kishi got married.

The red scarf in the Last? Came from the fact his wife gave him one.
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>>119226607
Where's Shikamaru on that list?
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>>119226589
>baby bunshin no jutsu
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>>119226607
He has the sand sluts.
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>>119226176
I'll fucking emote if I want. Nothing got retconned still.
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sneak peek of that bonus NH chapter from Nanashi
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>>119226649
It is just a stupid crossover crackahip.
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>>119218805
Naruhina. It has a fucking movie trying to convince us the two have chemistry.
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>>119226589
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>>119226597

Considering Kiba and Naruto interacted at least once as children together, it's entirely possible this is true.
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>>119226607

It's actually somewhat disappointing that there wasn't much of Naruto's side of the friendship when it came to Gaara.

Naruto is all
>muh Sasuke
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>>119226781
That was Nanashi before going to his booth for C87.
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>>119220174
>quints
you can't count anon
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>>119226723
He's not. He has just legit friendship.

Gaara is second to Hinata. I've seen people who ship GaaNaruHina with a straight face.
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God, how much lewd can Nanashi do with NH before it proceeds to fucking?

Hinata'll be fucked by gorillas
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>>119226791
Meant for>>119226678
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>>119226822
And Sasuke is just
>MUH DARKNESS
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>>119226723

Below Gaara and Bee
Probably the same as Neji
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>>119226678
I'd cruelly love to see poor Hinata suddenly the target of her own fangirls after maturing into a beautiful woman when she's the most hetero in the entire series. She never even had a single moment that could be remotely interpreted at yuri subtext.
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>>119226864
I do not think he has done bad things to ships he likes.
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>>119226767
>implying gaara can talk to girls without spilling his mom's sand from his pockets
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>>119225476
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>>119226928
I accept Hinata Konan.
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>>119226928
10/10
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>>119226846
>I've seen people who ship GaaNaruHina with a straight face
I've seen GaaHina shippers.

God, it must be so hard to ship Hinata with anyone but Naruto, you need to come up with a way to break her Naruto-sexuality.
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What's the best love story?
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>>119226920

He shoke hands with Hinata at her wedding

>immune to spaghetti drops when it comes to those who is even more powerful than him
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>>119226846

Probably Hiashi again.
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>>119226958
The man Hinata loved isn't the one leading the current Akatsuki and has Rinnegan, though.

If Hinata's the Konan, then she would be next to Kiba.
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>>119226806
>Image of Nazi Germany.
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>>119226970
SasuHina is the stupidest yet popular thing. I don't get it. Must be the Muh Parallulz folks that thought NaruSaku was good.
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>>119226970

>GaaHina

Jesus, what do you even write about? How great they both think Naruto is?
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>>119226983
I loved these two. Better than whatever the fuck NH is supposed to be.
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>>119226983
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>>119227017
It was within arms-length.
Point is NH is shit. Pic related is a couple done right.
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>>119227016
I'm aware. I just want body pierced Hinata.
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>>119226806
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>>119227035
The argument I've seen is that Gaara is Naruto, just more broken. The curative properties of Hinata's love would fit Gaara well. She can also teach him love and all that stuff.

Realistically they'd just go on and on about Naruto, though.

Maybe they'll be good friends! Probably number 1 boy and girl in the Naruto Fanclub.
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>>119227114
Hades would have that much issue with Nazi Germany?
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>>119227041

Her love is inferior to Pappilon's

>she turns her mind to steel
>he said "fuck this, SCIENCE will save my husbando"
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>>119227041
Nobuhiro is a rarity in shounen though.
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>>119227076
NaruHina is shonen romance done well. With character growth, without hijacking the plot.
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>>119227126
I'm pretty sure that if you use that logic, BeeHina would fit better.
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>>119227126
See, I still don't get that for SasuHina. She'd never give up on Naruto and if there was no Naruto she'd be a broken shell.

SasuHina comes off like the 50 Shades of Gray pairing.
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>>119227156
>this post
nh screentime was almost non-existent especially for such a long series. that's a big sin for a couple in my book.
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>>119227152
And?
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>>119227221

It was hinted at, I just wish hinata had a bigger role in the story
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>>119227156
>NaruHina is shonen romance done well
It's done adequately in the sense that if you follow the series closely enough you'll see a thread of development.

It's nowhere near good enough to be called 'done well'. There aren't enough development from Naruto's side, there are no trials testing Hinata's feelings, Hinata herself is sidelined completely and most importantly it's not implied to be mutual until the very Last.
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>>119227221
It had enough and each moment was big.

Again, it didn't hijack the plot.
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>>119227126
Now I want to see Hinata pout. This art is too cute.
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>>119227221
>>119227156
On the whole, I'm satisfied with NH, but that's mostly because of the movie swooping in to fix things.

Even without the movie, we'd have a confirmed marriage with children, which is more than we get from most battle shounen that introduce romance subplots. Most of them end like Eyeshield 21 or Beelzebub, with it being left ambiguous.
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>>119227252
>I just wish hinata had a bigger role in the story
Nope. She's a walking uterus.
>>119227267
Not enough for me anon.
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>>119227264
Two things. One, the only person Naruto freaks out more over than Sasuke is Hinata.

Two, its a SHONEN. None of those things matter in a shonen if the plot isn't about them.

The Last implies Naruto already loved her but was so out if it he didn't know what that feeling was.
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How long would Hinata last in this situation?
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>>119227345

She looks like she's about to fucking explode.
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Why are so many shounen authors so shy about these things?
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>>119227291
>Even without the movie, we'd have a confirmed marriage with children, which is more than we get from most battle shounen that introduce romance subplots
For a reason. Shit feels way rushed when you go from hints to time-skip to full-blown marriage and children.
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>>119227252
I wish she was the heroine. But she wasn't and that would have added a Hyuga plot tumor to go with the Uchiha malignancy.

>>119227293
She literally saves Naruto three times, twice that would have ended in his death.

Romance wasn't the plot. It did well for that fact.
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>>119227372
>Kid Naruto asks why his forearm feels wet
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>>119227380
Because shonen is written for and by 12 year old boys.
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>>119227221
What's a shonen couple you're satisfied with? Genuine question.
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>>119227382
You said it yourself: for a reason. The epilogue wasn't meant for you to go

>aww, how romantic!

The epilogue was meant for you to see a glimpse of the characters' lives in the future. Of course they'd get married and have children. That's what all human beings do.

But that doesn't mean you can't feel happy that the couple you wanted to see together was shown to be together in the future. I wish more series like this had timeskip marriages. If they're not going to give us the confession and wedding on screen, it's the next best thing.
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>>119227529
>If they're not going to give us the confession and wedding on screen, it's the next best thing.
Naruto has the babies ever after epilogue plus a whole movie dedicated to the confession and the marriage.

How many other series had done that? I can't name one, but I've never paid much attention to anime movies. Hadn't even watched any Kenshin movies although I loved Rurouni to bits.
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>>119227441
Not any that I can think of off the top of my head. I will say, regardless of genre or intended audience, the couples I am satisfied with are those that have plentiful screen time together. Time to really get to know each other, and for me as the reader to get to know them not as individuals but as a couple.

People fingering themselves over this shit is pathetic but hey, don't let anything I have to say get in the way of your enjoyment.
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>>119227613
Sounds like you're asking too much. You risk series collapse when you do that.
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>>119220967
> Addams family, the manga
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lol I love butthurt threads.
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>>119227724
i detest narutu threads
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>>119227724

Which one is cousin it
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>>119227742

meant for >>119227712
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>>119227613
Fair enough. Romance of that standard is incredibly rare in shonen, even if both boy and girl are main characters.

>>119227712
Can NaruHina be like the Addams family?
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>>119218858
Nice maymay you have there, but stahp, that romance is way better and expanded upon, than this shit.
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>>119227787
Buso Renkin did it really well. Initially, Bleach did it too between Ichigo and Rukia though the two weren't romantically interested in each other, there was definitely a camaraderie.

SCREEN TIME, the key words and NH was starved of it. The movie's an attempt to salvage that but the effort just comes off as desperate at this point.
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>>119227787
Heathy, weird, comfortable about sex without being obnoxious? Yes.
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>>119227895
I thought that was one of the twin towers smoking in the background.
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>>119227886
To you.

Seems smart to me. Shonen manga with a shoujo movie.
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>>119227895
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>>119227886
Quality > Quantity

Romance needs development, regardless of how much or little interaction it takes to show it.
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>>119227895
Reincarnation incest is still incest.
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>>119227911
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>>119220000
I dropped bleach long ago. Did they go there finally, or is it still full retard asexual, as it used to be?
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>>119227930
And very little was really needed. Nardo did good. Lay groundwork, then resolve in a spin off. Keeps the plot going.
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>>119227895
Who's that blonde with no whiskers?
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>>119219939
Daily reminder they slept together. And would have been a better couple because Eugenics
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>>119227930
But screen time needs both: just like in real life romances, you need substantial quality time. Both quality and quantity.
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>>119220072
>>119219939
>SasuKarin was better

are you retaded?

Suigetsu/Karin all the way
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>>119221534
the best
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>>119228001
But for a show that it isn't really about the romance that's going to bog down the pacing of the action by a lot. Do you really think Naruto needed more interruptions?
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I dropped this shit long ago, Sasuke becomes hokage?
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>>119220290
>those mouths

i never noticed
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>>119228109
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>>119228108
The two could have been put on the same team or just not rush the whole family thing at the end via time skip.
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>>119228004
They legit loathe each other. No.
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>>119228149
wow. really?
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>>119228182
Romance was not the point. Though I agree, Hinata makes a better heroine anyway.

They didn't 'rush' it. They SKIPPED it. There is a difference.
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>>119228222
nah man he doesn't
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>>119228222
Yep
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>>119228182
>The two could have been put on the same team

This is a fucking horrible idea. The whole point of the team he had is that it made him the undeniable underdog amongst his teammates.
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>>119221412
landwhales want to eat kishi alive because sasuke turned out to be hetero for sakura instead of homo
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Hinata=BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBS
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>>119228227
>Romance was not the point
And yet we have circle-jerk nh fangirls.
>>119228252
Later on down the story in shippuden. Come up with some reason if you're going to try for a shoujo ending.
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So who has the image with Nigger Zetsu stabbing Madara with the words Around Black Never Relax.
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>>119228186
suigetsu is tsun tsun and you know it
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>>119228400
that fucking image, holy shit
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>>119223561
Implying bro Sasuke wasn't carrying team 7 till the time he left, while Naruto was to focused on trying to steal sauce's waifu to realize his idiocy is what was stopping team 7 from functioning right.
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>>119228305
Thus proving it was perfect.

Seriously. They build it up then do a movie to shojo it. Perfect.
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So was she in some stockholm syndrome fantasy land?
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>>119228419
No. Fuck that. Not all hate means they want to fuck.
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kishimoto did hint it in part 1
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>>119228547
More like those chicks who marry serial killers in prison.
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>>119228578
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>>119228578
There are bits in 2. Mostly in the war.
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>>119228598
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>>119228536
>They build it up then do a movie to shojo it
No, the having kids was slapped onto the manga at the end after a time skip.
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>>119228616
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>>119228578
>>119228598
>>119228616
Still wondering how the fuck Anko couldn't tell it was Orochimaru after he did his famous tongue bullshit with the kunai.
Dumb bitch.
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>>119228578
>>119228598
>>119228616
Back when naruto was good.
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>>119228638
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>>119228641
I disagree, I like part 2 better
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>>119227345
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>>119228638
Super strong handholding game there

Not even NaruHina has something like that.

I wonder how far SasuSaku can be in the Boruto movie.
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>>119228578
>>119228598
>>119228616
It's Part 2 is where the issue is though
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>>119228669
cliche incoming
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>>119228604
Part 2 only had this from what I know, but it basically confirmed them as canon with those eye panels
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>>119228620
Which would still be fine.
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>>119225520
Sasuke can give him a run. He should have mastered the rennigan and be able to use all of his techs in tangent with susanoo meaning susanoo enhanced preta path absorbs most of what naruto can throw at him but the argument becomes what naruto starts mixing in natural energy. Sasuke has shown he can is capable of handling natural energy. But because of Naruto's larger chakra pool he should be able to pump more into his attacks than sasuke can safely absorb. But sasuke with the rennigan should also be able to summon the getto mazo which should be able to restrain Naruto's kurama avatar, as well as outer path being able to tear kurama out
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>>119228728
His smirks, the 'annoying' callback. The poke.
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>>119228737
Yeah, it's not that bad. People calling it/acting like it's 'the greatest love story ever told' boggles my mind though.
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Himawari is love!

>>119228788
>People calling it/acting like it's 'the greatest love story ever told'
I don't think think I've ever seen that said here. Just that they're very happy it happened
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>>119228810
Here's one: >>119227047
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>>119228810
>this will never happen

Thank you based Coolest Guy.
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>>119228719

Part 2 was Sasuke denying the bonds that he forged with Sakura and Naruto, but his arc was to stop being an idiot and go back.

Like this anon says >>119228728 There were hints when he returned to be sane. The chapter he knocks her down was mostly Kakashi shipping them and Sasuke trying to put up excuses.

When he finally de-edges completely, the first thing he does is actually apologize in a non half assed way. She was the only one who got that.
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>>119228827
I have a feeling they're not serious.
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>>119228827
I think he was responding to in the series, not ever
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>>119218805
Naruhina
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>>119228489
Wut m8
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>>119228912
I'm hoping you're correct.
>>119228930
Is it really that bad that the best love story was naruhina?
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The Last
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It's a bit incredible how interested people were in the romance aspect given how there's almost no romance in the manga.

Maybe it's the lack of romance that made it interesting for people?
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>>119228989
>naruto grabbing for hinata's uterus
fitting
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>>119227268
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>>119228989
I fucking wish kishi had gotten rid of that stupid orange outfit. Ninja's wearing orange, holy shit is that retarded.
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>>119229042
That and the blank look on Hinata's face really emphasizes how irrelevant she became later on.
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>>119228810
She's the cutest flower. I wish that she is at least somewhat relevant in the upcoming short serie and movie. I wish it so bad.
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>>119228788
Yep.

>>119228827
That was me too. Sarcasm. I just love the sap.
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>>119229023
It was that it set up fertile ground and never ruined it by trying to write it.

You never show the monster, man.
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>>119229023
teasing gets people exited
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>>119229269
Aye, I love me some NaruHina, but its not the best ever.

In series, maybe.
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>>119229023
It's a 15-year-long cocktease that ends in a glorious cumshower of a movie.

The cocktease was super slow and almost non-existent in the first 177 months, too, and only rising in intensity in the last three months.

It feels super good if you've been staying in the cocktease for those years.
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>>119229023
Think about why ecchi exists over hentai

It's the cocktease above the actual result that attracts people
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>>119229346
During the series it most definetly isn't. One of the reasons being that the author himself was not confident (or bold) enough to write it. And that was propably a good thing too as these anons noted >>119229303 >>119229370

Now, the movie on the other hand seems to be quite a blast on that area. Though we'll have to see it first, but the pre information seems to support the idea.
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>>119227152
>Ichigo
>Ageha
>.....

damn you are right
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>>119218805
I'm happy Sakura got what she wanted. Not enough girls get that.
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At least their union produced a new miracle of the universe
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Can someone clear this up... IS LEE FUCKING TENTEN?
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>>119229665
Lee has no time for women when there is SEISHUN to be experienced.
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>>119229665
who needs women when you can fucking split in 2 through the power of mitosis AND YOUTH
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>The Uzumaki residence is forever haunted
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Honestly, NaruHina is an even worse love story than SasuSasku.
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>>119218805
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>>119230033
>Sometimes Nagato and Obito come to hang out
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>>119230132
>Only Himawari can see them, everyone else living can only feel chills
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oh god naruto ships. some of the most retarded shit ive ever read.
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>>119230082
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>>119230132
what if ghost obito was voiced by a really drunk britbong?
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NaruHina had potential to be really, really good. It's just that Kishimoto can't write for shit.

SasuSaku was beyond saving though.
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>>119230375
Yorkshire accent.

AWRITE OUR NAZZA?
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>>119225780
I can't imagine Sasuke treating Sakura with anything more cordial than polite disdain. She could never get close to giving him a good fight, both psychologically or physically, so why fucking bother putting up with her blather?
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>>119229794

He wanted Sakura though. His dream was about getting her.
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>>119227886
There's got to be a good middle ground between pointless fluff and barebones development on the side. NH was admittedly too close to being barebones (notice how all adaptations of the manga try to add in as much as they can get away with) as part of Kishi generally having no idea what to do with side characters.
But add too much fluff and screentime and the really important moments get lost., or worse, the love interest character erodes beside the more interesting and cool MC because all MCs need to hog the spotlight.

Not giving NH all that much screentime is a pain, but at least it did preserve Hinata without some editor meddling with her too much or Kishi's prudery landing the whole relationship on a sandbank (almost happened with the ignored confession).
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>>119227953
Why is he so moe?
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Clearly what Hinata meant here is that she's going to stop loving Naruto.

Why, what else could she mean?
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>>119230619
Because he gave up his hate. He's stoic, but no longer running from emotion.
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>>119218805
easy
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>>119230697
The sad bit is this is legit what NaruSaku fans said.

Because delusion is a hell of a drug.
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>>119230749
>Boruto movie trailer
>Three seconds of Sasuke blushing
>SS fans make Boruto movie most commercially successful.
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>>119230759
Here's your reply.

Seriously though, anyone who find NH worse than SS is fucking deluded.
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>>119230759
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Would Naruto/Sakura have been a better ending? Serious question, I never followed Naruto.
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>>119230697
Clearly she planned on stealing his power, then happiness.
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>>119230825
No.
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>>119230825
Naruto would've been happy anyway, since all he wants is someone who stays by his side, even if that person didn't appreciate him and longs for somebody else.
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>>119225317
Poor Naruto, cursed with inmortality
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>>119227035
One of my all-time favorite fanfics is GaaHina.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4512329/1/Grains-of-Sand

That kid needs a hug more than anybody in the world.
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>>119225317
Why do you think he let Orochimaru get away with everything?
Clearly he worked out a deal and Orochimaru is working on a safe, non-body-snatching eternal life serum in Ninja Argentina.
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>>119230876
That's untrue, Naruto told Sakura to fuck off when she confessed that she loved him even though she still lusted after Sasuke's dick.
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>>119230033
>>119225317
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>>119227989
Stand-in educated prostitute.
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