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Nagisa from Madoka is so cute and innocent that she's a sex object.

Anyone else ever experienced the phenomenon of cute and innocent, pure things being so sexy?
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Fuck off Mami.
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I wonder who is behind this post?
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Don't worry.
It is quite common condition.
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>>118663030

If you are implying that Mami rapes that 10 year old girl every night you are wrong.

Mami is not like that.
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>>118664117
Uhhh, yes she is.
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>>118662631
Yes, it's called being a lolicon and it's super great
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>>118664117
Yeah she has has passionate vanilla sex with her.
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I have a diaper fetish, so this concept is very familiar to me. Nagisa would look super cute in one.
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>>118664117
Of course not.
They have loving gentle sex every night after Mami cooks her dinner.
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>>118665096
Get out.
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>>118666230
And those fags keep telling us not to sexualise madoka, while this official art is clearly doing so
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>>118664117
Just some nights. Nights where Mami has the dreams of past world traumas, maybe even of her gruesome death at the hands of Nagisa the witch. Driven to desire in order to deal with despair, Mami succumbs to loli madness.
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>>118664151
Of course, I don't doubt those doujins you read have a real influence in the actual characters
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>>118668011
I wish we had that kind of doujin. It's always Nagisa taking advantage of Mami in the ones I've read.
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>>118662631
How tight is she?
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>>118666230
>>118666952
>Nagisa's skirt hanging off one leg

J-just sisterly bonding, n-not lewd at all
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>>118668011
>implying there are MamiNagi doujin aren't just futa fuckfests
Sadly it was never meant to be.
Maybe I'll learn to draw and make one myself.
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>>118666952
Who said you can't sexualize Madoka?

Ever since Rebellion a lot of the official art has been very lewd.
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>>118669070
Well, artists don't need to have a bond or even like his characters, unlike VAs. It isn't that surprising since there already was lewd official art of the megucas.
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>>118669655
Yeah, because all actors have to like and empathize with the characters they're playing.
Every female VA ever confirmed for dumb harem slut.

A job is a job, anon. You can get into it, but it doesn't mean you have it.
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>>118669073
This one isn't futa. Has a magically made sex toy though.
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Mami, it's posts like that why you are alone.
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>>118669816
I just lumped that one in because the prequel to it is a futa fuckfest.
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>>118669943
Y-you don't by chance have a link to it, do you?
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>>118669981
There are maybe six MamiNagi doujin on sadpanda. You should be able to solve this.
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>>118670032
You're forgetting, everyone is retarded here. And a faggot.

I'll go look it up then!
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Who the hell is this loli?
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>>118669752
Still, a voice actor usually does a better job when he understands the character whose voice he is making. An artist does not need that, he only needs his own skill.
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Just curious, but doesn't the issue presented by pedophilia disappear entirely if the loli in question doesn't have innocence to violate? I mean, isn't that the whole point of the taboo, that little girls shouldn't be taken advantage of for their bodies?

But Nagisa has seen some shit. It's like sexualizing Rika. I mean, sexual thoughts about pure, innocent Rika are horrible.
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>>118669943
No futa, just tentacle shit.
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>>118670396
Are you trying to implying acting is not a skill?

An actor with a lot of skill can play any role they see fit.
Neil Patrick Harris; Gay as all hell; Plays one of the best straight guys you'll ever see on a TV show.
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>>118670449
If you are sexually interested in a girl who is 10 years old or less white you are 18 years old or more, it legally is pedophilia no matter how you twist it.
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>>118670459
Same difference.
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>>118670582
No, don't put words in my mouth. I am saying that the understanding a character usually helps them.
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>>118669943
Forgot about that one, it isn't translated.

Wait, this isn't futa. It's tentacles. Don't let tentacles get to you anon. Just enjoy the yuri one.
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Why aren't there any softcore breastfeeding doujins?
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>>118662631
Sexualize it. Immediately.
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>>118670626
It's not the same thing. There is a difference between a girl growing a dick and bursting into a tentacle abomination.
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>>118670711
>artist
Could draw expression better if they either relate to the character or have a lot of skill
>actor
Could play the character better if they either relate to the character or have a lot of skill

Of course this is just a rough example. But the point is they they are same in almost every aspect.
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>>118670718
Yuri is nothing but vanilla shit, I don't know what is the appeal.
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>>118670770
But futa is just the girl being turned into a hermaphrodite abomination. It's the same thing.
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>>118670591
I was trying to go a little deeper than "don't be to breaking the law plox", sorry anon.
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>>118670848
And tentacles are just vanilla hentai, what's your point?
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>>118670994
I never said tentacles weren't vanilla as fuck.
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>>118670913
In futa, the girl's body suffers a transformation, but it's still easily recognizable as a female with male genitalia.
When it's tentacles, no matter if it was a boy a girl, the former body usually disappears altogether and it's replaced by a clusterfuck of things.
What used to be the tentacle abomination is irrelevant, unlike in futa.
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>>118671536
It's actually easily recognizable as a hermaphrodite.
Both are shit. You just like one and not the other.
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>>118671317
Thanks for clarifying anon. I have never said that a baby's bosom is blue.
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>>118670913
>>118671668
Based ban-evader shitting up threads with his autistic agendas again. Please report and ignore, anons.
>inb4 sperging and "m-mods are just out to get me"
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>>118671730
Jesus christ, what is wrong with you?
I didn't even start this. Some other guy was the one calling tentacles shit, or whatever.
Can you calm your autism?
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>>118671668
I didn't say I liked neither, you dumb retard, but of course I wouldn't stand seeing someone be that stupid. Learn to fucking read >>118670459
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>>118671816
>I didn't say I liked neither
What? Why the double negative?
Either way. They're both abominations and that's the end of it.
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>>118670848
Sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't. Yuri kind of has an inherent soft side, that element is unavoidable. Isn't that part of the appeal though? What exactly are you expecting?
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>>118671974
For you, sure, but seeing how sadly popular futa is, I doubt yours is a word that matters much.
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>>118671730
>sperging
You are the only person who uses this word.
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>>118672146
There is no better word to describe what that guy does, though.
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>>118672226
Rant, berate, belligerent, ad nauseam, anything else.
>implying anyone is actually mad
Why do you think anyone who's not you has to be mad about something, and are therefore wrong because they're mad.
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>>118666952
That one isn't actually official art. Nonetheless, though, some of it is pretty perverse
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>>118672380
>That one isn't actually official art

What is it then?
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>>118672380
>tea on the beach
Mami is amazing.
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>>118672618
I hate Nagisa's eyebrows.
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>>118664117
Of course not she tenderly loves her every night.
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>>118672380
I really prefer homu like this.
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>>118672605
it's from a yusaani fanart book. Can you not reverse image search?
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>>118672380
>>118672927
Happy? Yeah, me too. In the other images she has better swimsuits.

Madoka's body in this one is fucking ridiculous
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>>118672605
It's from a doujin collection. SHAFT staff all pitched in and drew meguca fanart.
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>>118672380
>subtle hand-holding
l e w d
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>>118673181
Homu looks REALLY molestable here.
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>>118673314
Is that everything you can think of, anon? Not even about how comfy and huggable they look?
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>>118673380
Molestability is a combination of huggableness and sexiness.
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>>118673314
>>118673380
>>118673454
Let Homura have some peaceful rest for once, you vermin.
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>>118673454
I don't think he gets it anon. In fact, I don't think a lot of people on /a/ nowadays understand the feeling of 'moe'.
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>>118673314
>>118673380
>>118673454
>>118673559
please, anons. You're going to kill the thread
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>>118673708
>That Homuchest
It's fraud.
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>>118662631
You've got great fucking taste man. Recently fell in love with this little cutie. She's perfect.
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>>118673819
She's pushing her tits up with the pillow. This is what a fraud Homuchest looks like.
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>>118673708
All things must come to an end.
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>>118673965
there's still time to stop the key from turning. Swimsuit Homus are the cure.
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>>118672927
Homura as she was in the distant past, a cute moeblob, instead of the gutsy developed version we have in canon time line? Seems boring to me.
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>>118673819
>That Homuchest
>It's fraud.
more like Homucaust
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>>118674189
she can be both. That's why she's so great.
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>>118674189
They're not exclusive anon, just look at the picture in question. Homu is clearly experiencing some sort of PTSD flashback—the ice cold can and the condensation on its surface probably triggered the feeling of Madoka's lifeless body lying wet and chilled in a shallow pool of water.
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>>118672380
I just realized that Kyouko is in this picture.
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>>118674945
But anon, Madoka is the melon
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>>118674692
She can have a soft side, but she can't be useless moe and competent badass at the same time.

>>118674832
Well shit, maybe she can. Homura is just too deep for me.
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>>118675047
Not there anon, I'll give you a hint.
Kyouko's witch is Ophelia.
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>>118675097
it more or less happens at the start of Rebellion.
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>>118675097
Of course, anon! For all Homus, the least common denominator is unhappiness.
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>>118675133
Damn. I knew Ophelia existed but I hadn't looked up her appearance. That's some shit. I still don't see her there, though. You're gonna have to spell out what you're thinking of.
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>>118675485
Kyouko is drowning in the ocean.
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>>118675658
Ohhhh, you're talking about Hamlet. Goddammit anon, I'm not clever enough for this
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>>118675293
I can't believe that there are people who think the first half of Rebellion is just' 'fanservice/pandering'.

The first half of Rebellion makes me depressed on a level of such intensity that I can barely describe it.
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Tidings of comfort and joy.
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>>118676342
>there are people who think the first half of Rebellion is just' 'fanservice/pandering'.
I think that's the vibe you could get if you only watched it once and never looked back. Re-watching the first half, knowing the whole story and what's really going on, is when it actually gets depressing
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What should I get my friends for Christmas?
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>>118676432
>>118676451
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>>118676342
It's fucking brilliant. It parallels the series and tricks you into initially thinking it's one of the original timelines. Such a great exposition. That and the visuals makes the first 27 minutes awesome. Especially when the rest of the film is so heavy.
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>>118676451
keki
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Homura is a good girl who deserves love and eternal salvation.
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>>118676486
I thought the series was explained well and didn't need to be brought up again.
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>>118676448
Typically when someone's critical of Rebellion, I get the impression that they haven't done the thinking and rewatching necessary to drive the film home. There are a couple tiny things I don't like about it, but on the whole, every minute of that film is emotionally rich.
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please stop projecting your pedophilia
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>>118676625
That's fair, but honestly, Rebellion takes everything so much farther that the series just pales in comparison. The series' conclusion is piddly compared to Rebellion's ramping intensity.
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>>118676710
>>118676672
These images are really similar, like they're looking at each other.
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>>118676810
Homura is actually like 28.
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>>118676957
22-23 by the end of the series, according to Urobuchi. Though it's unknown how much time passes between episode 12 and her getting experimented on by the incubators.
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>>118676914
>that little bit of pantsu

why'd the artist have to ruin such a nice drawing?
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>>118676914
It's like looking in a mirror, anon.
One smiling face is real, and the other is just an illusion.
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>>118677120
Elevens are hopelessly perverted. Want to go to Homu's Pixiv tag and play "count the dicks"?
>>118677055
Well, if you optimize all of the variables, she could be even older. A girl her age could be as old as 14 and the loops could have taken as long as 13 years. Then you figure the events up to and including Rebellion could constitute another year.

Or she could be as young as 17 or so, but everyone seems to ignore that possibility for some reason, haha.
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>>118677191
I never noticed that similarity between the chair scenes!

>Homura leaning as if into Madoka but there's only a cliff there now

fuccckkkkk
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>>118677284
It just occurred to me that all girl series cause more lewdness than hetero series because of the futa.
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>>118677284
>Or she could be as young as 17 or so

If we take Urobuchi's "approaching 100" timeline resets to mean 70, that's still 6 years. It's never implied that she resets the timeline before walpurgis nacht, but even if we say she did enough times to reduce her total time spent in loop by 33%, that's still 4 years, plus whatever time she spent fighting wraiths.

That said, the time between episode 12 and Rebellion is unlikely to be more than 2 years, because all the girls accept that they're still in middle school, so Mami is unlikely to have graduated by then.

>Want to go to Homu's Pixiv tag and play "count the dicks"?

I've never been there exclusively because I don't want to see that. Is it really that bad?
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=>>118677352
Sayaka is pretty lewd all by herself.
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>>118677576
>That said, the time between episode 12 and Rebellion is unlikely to be more than 2 years

I always thought it couldn't be more than a few months, surely not a year.
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>>118676432
Homura has the power to become Santa
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>>118677647
Yeah, but that would mean that Homura fell into near-despair within months of Madoka's sacrifice. I'd rather speculate longer over shorter because that's fucking sad.
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>>118677761
But she didn't, she was caught at a vulnerable moment by incubators.
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>>118677761
>I'd rather speculate longer over shorter because that's fucking sad

Well, yeah, it's fucking sad, that is the whole damn point.
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>>118677793
This line is what gave me the impression that she was already just about done for

>>118677831
Right, but I'd like to think that Homu is better than that. She's too strong to get pooched after a month or two
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>>118677929
She is, but I don't give her more than six months.
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>>118677929
That line doesn't prove Homura is at her limit, just that her soul gem is at it's limit.

If anything, it means Homura is stronger than ever. Able to operate at such a level with such efficiency, something likely impossible for anyone else.
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>>118677999
Anon, you and I both know that's not true. The incubators cut off a soul gem that was about to be taken by the law of the cycle to see what would happen. Homura was able to form the false Mitikihara labyrinth by virtue of her near-transformation into a witch. That's why they spend so much time discussing the properties of Homu's barrier that allow her to draw in victims and such.

>>118677988
That's probably a very close guess.
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>>118677761
>persevere through ten years in hell to save the one you love
>can't last more than a few months being free when the one you love is gone

No matter how hard she tried, she literally could not live without Madoka. That is supremely romantic, but also horribly tragic.
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>>118677929
>>118677999
>that was already pushed to it's limit
Oh, also, this is the incubator estimation. I think they always underestimate Homura. Especially likely in the time line where she's basically the living angel of a goddess.

Not saying she can't fall into pretty serious despair, but one doesn't fight through so many time loops to then immediately give up as soon as they get lonely. At least that's how I see it.


>>118678313
>Anon, you and I both know that's not true
Speak for yourself. It's vague enough that you can see it how you like. It's still Homura's loneliness and feelings that are the source of the whole thing, since she told QB about Madoka.
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>>118677929
>Right, but I'd like to think that Homu is better than that.
Homura is very strong-willed. Many would argue that she's the strongest of all of the girls by far.

But fuck, man. It's not her fault. "I'd like to think Homu is better than that." We all know she tried her hardest until the bitter end. You know that.

But Madoka was her foundation, anon. The ground gave way underneath her, so naturally she would fall. She had no alternative available.
That is, until she grew wings.
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>>118678718
She did the whole thing for Madoka in the first place. Saving Madoka was the only thing keeping her going.
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>>118678786
I didn't mean to imply that it was her fault. I was just trying to point out that she seemed very steadfast and powerful fighting wraiths at the end of the series. Also, I hadn't considered this >>118678672

Looking at it that way makes the whole thing makes sense, but holy shit, that's devastating
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>>118678718
Anon, she never 'gave up'. She never even faltered. And no one would have the right to call her weak even if she did stop. But she never stopped.

But anon, there's more to a person than just their conscious mind.

Rebellion is full of the interplay between Homura's conscious and unconscious mind. Surely you picked up on this.

Homura can fall into despair without giving up, anon. That's the point.
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>>118679703
This happened to literally every meguca thread between October '13 and April '14, if I recall.
>>118680096
Madoka's arc may have wrapped up with the series, and Homura's story was concluded with Rebellion, true.
But the story of Madoka and Homura is not yet over.
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>>118680195
this. Everyone would be so fucking whipped if the series shifted gears away from the conflict rebellion built.

I think he did in fact say something about time off from this project and that the spinoffs are still kicking, but yeah, their story isn't over.

Having Sayaka or Madoka as the protagonist for the next iteration would be fine with me, though.
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>>118679817
>I'm not really sure why you're pushing this so hard
I could say the same for you. My position is ultimately the same conclusion, it just doesn't make light of Homura's devotion in the anime ending.

>The opening speech Homura gives at the start of Rebellion is an acknowledgement of the inevitability that all magical girls fall into despair and are led away by the law of the cycle.
I don't see what this is suppose to prove either way. Yes, someday, all magical girls will be led away by the law of cycles. Until that day, they will fight forever onward against the curses of the world.
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>>118679703
Nagisa is only useful for molesting.
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>>118680161
My impression of Nagisa is that her immaturity is a facade. Not to say that she isn't literally a child, but she's clearly capable of more than she lets on. I think that's even more evident when we see her in the ending playing along with Homura's world without even a bit of resistance.
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>>118680369
>it just doesn't make light of Homura's devotion in the anime ending.
>implying
Jesus anon, you're more obstinate than Homura herself was in the dream world. Somehow you seem to have ignored half of the message of the movie.
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>>118680607
Totally. She's gotta be in control of her surroundings if she's that comfortable in the face of all she sees in the Labyrinth. Her and Sayaka are the most in the know for the whole film up until the end. I think the act is annoying, though. She's probably going to be a major player in the next part of the story
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>>118672380
>That one isn't actually official art.
Oh really?
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>>118680759
Don't know what implications you're extrapolating from that. The only point I have is that instead of Homura immediately becoming a witch by herself, she needed a little push from incubators, which themselves were pushed by Homura.

That's all.
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>>118680886

>>118673181
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>>118680886
Holy shit, that Kyouko looks hideous.
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>>118680341
I fully believe the only thing that could bring Madoka's memories back is the thing Homura did not give her in the new world: Homura.

If they were to continue the story after Rebellion, Madoka's feelings for Homura would surely be extremely important in resolving the plot and developing her character further. She would learn about how desires and order could balance, about how she doesn't really want to sacrifice herself and lose what was precious to her, realize what Homura truly means to her after understanding why she rebelled, and show how she could develop some response to her actions that would theoretically improve the world further. It would be interesting and a lot of people would stop calling her a weak character.
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>>118680892
That's fine. Me and at least two other people disagree with you. I think it subverts this theme >>118678672 and contradicts some other lines from the film that are fairly explicit. Hold the position if you want.
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I shouldn't have watched Madoka.

Watching little girls fall into despair is sad.

And I can't get Mami's theme out of my head either.

But atleast Rebellion had a "happy" ending.
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>>118681293
Credens Justitiam is the shit.
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>>118681070
I'd like to see this too.

Honestly, I really think that Madoka isn't in love with Homura. Lots of people are going to object to that, but to me at least, Madoka's lines indicate that Homura is very dear to her, but they all ring with the inflection of someone who's talking to a close friend.

During the hillside conversation, Homura says that her "dream" of a world without Madoka devastated her. Madoka reassures her that she'd never leave her, sayaka, kyouko, their classmates, etc., not that she'd never leave Homura exclusively. She calls Homura a 'dear friend' during naked space hug when she could see all Homura did for her in all the timelines. Obviously she could see indications of Homura's feelings, but she didn't say "I love you too". Their hug in the hallway overpass is awkward and she moans in displeasure.

Stuff like that. At the very least, Homura is head over Homus and Madoka doesn't confess anything. I think it's a cool dynamic and of course it's going to play a huge role in things to come. Maybe by the end of the story their feelings will be on the same level, but right now they just aren't.
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>>118681361
this reprise from the Rebellion soundtrack is fuckin cash too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Njhrt14_Ds

When Yuki hits, she hits big
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>>118681546
I would say that it's not a matter of being in love with or not being in love with Homura. Madoka has never tried to sort out her feelings in the first place. Her feelings are indiscernible in this regard, but it is clear that Homura is special to her, and that's what matters.
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>>118681110
I think it's just you though. Again, my position is the same conclusion, that Homura was in some serious despair with no Madoka. She even sought comfort in talking to QB, leading to her eventual trapping.

Not sure why you think it subverts the linked post theme. I'm guessing it's just perceived as more tragic without the roundabout incubator interference, or something.
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>>118681799
That's true. And I'm sure that having her memories messed with so much has left her with lots of scrambled emotions to sort out. I guess it's just more complicated than 'MadoHomu OTP FOREVER' which is what I get bombarded with frequently by people on the internet.
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>>118681546
One of the subtle aspects of Rebellion is that Madoka cherishes Homura as more than a friend. Her dream world is the only one that is never exactly specified. We know Homura's is one where she can live in happiness with Madoka and everyone, Mami's is one where she is not alone, Sayaka's is one where she can live without regrets and with Kyouko, and Kyouko's is one where she has Sayaka and a close group of friends to cling to without being alone on the street cursing herself. Madoka's at first would seem to be normally living with friends, but we are never directly shown what her dream world entails other than hints in her time with Homura.

Once she meets her, she starts spending all of her time with her, saying things like pic related which sound like a girl feeling love for the first time and not knowing how to describe it. She tells Homura that she would never want to make her cry, and Homura is the one to assume that Madoka is just kind and loves her friends. The tenderness Madoka shows around Homura, and only around Homura, alongside the amount of time comparatively shared with her against her other friends, leads to the assumption that a key aspect in Madoka's dream world is being by Homura's side in preference to anyone else's. Her strong feelings and emotional intimacy with Homura would lead to the indication that she cares more for Homura than anyone else and desires to be with her. She most likely does not realize what exactly her feelings for Homura are, but they are unique and much deeper than her feelings for anyone else.

I really can't see Madoka finding out that Homura became a demon to make her happy because she is in love with her and not reflect on her own feelings, coming to the conclusion she feels similarly.
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>>118682059
One thing I took into account strongly when forming that opinion is that Madoka never even remotely acts like a girl who likes other girls. In fact, the early episodes of the series show her literally denying that to Hitomi a couple times.

>saying things like pic related which sound like a girl feeling love for the first time and not knowing how to describe it.

if that's true, then it would supercede the things I was considering. That said, I think she's saying that because unbeknownst to her, her and Homura had been separated for some time by her choice. She gets that feeling because intuitively she can sense the distance, but she can't explain it by events in Homura's labyrinth.

>Her strong feelings and emotional intimacy with Homura would lead to the indication that she cares more for Homura than anyone else and desires to be with her.

Intimacy is the hangup here. I spend more time with my closest friend than with anyone else for those reasons but that doesn't mean there's mutual feelings or feelings at all. There's zero romantic intimacy coming from Madoka, but when they're close Homura's feelings are all over her face. It's not the same for both of them.

It's not that I don't like Madohomu, I'm just making a prediction based on how I interpret Madoka's actions. >>118681799 is a very good explanation too.
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>>118681546
I think that's part of what makes it interesting. It's like, yeah, Madoka's feelings aren't strong enough or selfish enough to be crowned an obvious love. Yeah, Homura probably has to force things to a degree. But I don't think anyone thought Madoka would outright reject how Homura feels. There's always been a kind of subtle support from Madoka about this. Partially because of her kind heart, partially because Homura-chan is precious to her, and partially because Homura herself feels so strongly, which makes a huge impression on Madoka.
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>>118682593
>Then the latter time Mami is having a break down Madoka just shots her in the fucked head
>But when Homura is having a break down Madoka instinctively knows just how to comfort here

I agree with you, but that it's a pretty different kind of break down, anon.
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>>118682593
That's true. Madoka would never have shot Homura in the head in that situation. Still, I would stand by the things me and others have said in >>118682528 >>118682440 >>118681799 >>118681546 before going all the way to saying she loves her. There are just too many things she does that a girl who's in love wouldn't do.
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>>118682593
Sayaka and Mami were kind of lost in their own world though. It's more like they just can't be helped, not that Madoka chooses to treat them badly.
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>this whole thread

I am glad /a/ finally matured and sees Rebellion for what really is: a great movie.
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>>118682593
And why did she kill Mami?
Because Mami was going after Homura next
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>>118682440
>Madoka never even remotely acts like a girl who likes other girls. In fact, the early episodes of the series show her literally denying that to Hitomi a couple times.
You could say the same thing about Sayaka, and most would agree she's super gay for Kyouko now. I was always under the impression that the feelings all the girls have for one another are not at all bound by sex. Even then, Madoka said she wanted a lover like her mother in that early interview.
>She gets that feeling because intuitively she can sense the distance, but she can't explain it by events in Homura's labyrinth.
She had been with her for a month up to that point. What she says there is a combination of what you said, how she had always wanted to be with Homura across time and space, but also that she wanted to be with Homura specifically in a normal setting where they could be together by themselves and simply appreciate each others' company. These are unique feelings and exemplary of someone in love.
>There's zero romantic intimacy coming from Madoka, but when they're close Homura's feelings are all over her face. It's not the same for both of them.
This is true because Madoka never attempts to make moves on Homura, but she understands Homura more than anyone and can reach her heart in ways nobody else can. The scene in the flower garden where she holds her close and tenderly braids her hair shows this. Not only is Madoka physically close to her, but her words can soothe her as well. Her emotions bloom when she's around Homura, and this goes back to the original series as well. Madoka was proudest of saving Homura in timeline 1, she killed Mami to protect her and was saved from a mental breakdown then and there by her in timeline 3, and even through all the distance since then she was always drawn to her, even becoming a goddess because Homura's fate was too cruel.

She really cares for Homura on a deep level, and there is an abundance of suggestions to say it's love.
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>>118682902
There was about a two and a half week period where the threads went to absolute shit. I'm glad we were able to muster a good one tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if it was final exams keeping people off /a/
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>>118666230
mami's_bulge.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdXTqxTWxcM

Lyric soon.
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>>118676432
It seems they were both the cake after all
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>>118683024
For the most part I agree with what you said, and I appreciate that you took the time to write all that out, but I really think that you're reaching.

>there is an abundance of suggestions to say it's love.

we could argue all night about it, but I've seen the series and Rebellion 25-30 times each and I'm pretty confident with my remembrance and understanding of the scenes. You aren't going to sway me, and I likely wouldn't be able to sway you, so let's just appreciate the fact that
>She really cares for Homura on a deep level

>>118683098
>wo ist deine lange nadel, wo ist deine kurze nadel

I love that track. It's almost a shame that it's talked over during the film.
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>>118682912
I guess that's fair enough. Would just say it's less knowing, more feeling. Or something like that.
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>>118683158
when I first saw that cake I thought it was pretty great, but I just now realized that there's no way I could bring myself to eat an icing homu
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>>118683364
Even if you tried it'd just disappear and reappear a few feet away from you anyway
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>>118682832
>But there are also quite a few different ways of dealing with people who are having a break down

Sure but. as much as I love these girls, I am afraid there wasn't another option in that specific scenario.
Mami was the one who put all her hopes in being a magical girl and that became the only thing that kept pushing her forward through all those years. She basically got her little world of "justice" tore apart right in front of her eyes, probably in the worst way possible too.
Even if they somehow managed to restrain and calm her down (what is extremely unlikely), I doubt she would regain hope and don't fall into despair, especially after realizing what she just did.
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>>118680607
>>118680873
Sayaka was part of the connection to Madoka via Law of Cycles. Same with Nagisa.

Sayaka tried to oppose Homu but had her memories wiped.

Homu didn't do a thing to Nagisa.

Shit, I think we've discovered how S2 / M4 is gonna start out.
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>>118683427
Seriously though, I think it's cool when companies put the characters on their packaging or do something like pic related, but imagining cutting and eating a homu drawn in icing legitimately makes me upset

>>118683533
the new christmas art is $
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>>118683680
a beach trip
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>>118683644
Shooting the gun of someone that you know can instantly create another one to replace it or, even worse, a wall made of those weapons isn't very smart in my opinion.
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>>118683717
It's cellular peptide cake

with mint frosting
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>>118683680
>Homu didn't do a thing to Nagisa

Hopefully not. You see her running and skipping along happily after Homu's rewrite. It would be cool if that care-free attitude was part of Nagisa's act and not due to Homu erasing her memories. I just assumed the latter until now.
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>>118683644
>>118683741
Right, and hitting Mami with a non-lethal shot when she can just heal would likely only escalate things. Kyouko was important too, and Mami ignored that. There was only one thing Madoka could do to save Homu and herself.
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>>118683809
Right. Homu wasn't aware that anybody still had their memories until Sayaka confronted her.

Seeing Nagisa being carefree probably made her think that her memories were already wiped and didn't bother to personally check.

Calling it now: Homu's laziness is her downfall.
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>>118683962
>Homu wasn't aware that anybody still had their memories until Sayaka confronted her.

Shit, that's true too. I think we might be onto something here.

I just want Homu to happy.
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>>118683962
>Homu's laziness is her downfall
Dangerously cheesy
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>>118663030
So Mami's a lolicon?

>>118662631
Yes. Pic related: It's my sexy waifu with her silver-haired best friend.
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>>118683680
>Sayaka tried to oppose Homu but had her memories wiped.
Seems more like she severed the Sayaka's connection to the old world. Sayaka still "remembers" that Homura is a devil, and still remembers that she was part of something greater(just not what it was, it's all muddled and unclear now).

>Homu didn't do a thing to Nagisa.
Didn't have to, Nagisa is relatively child-like when it comes to desires. She may just not remember naturally.
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>>118684052
>So Mami's a lolicon?
Yes, she won a contest even
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>>118684054
>Didn't have to, Nagisa is relatively child-like when it comes to desires. She may just not remember naturally.

You should read the thread if you have time.

Nagisa's execution of her and Sayaka's plan inside Homulabyrinth was pretty spot on
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>>118684052
As long as you pay more attention to doujins and your own sick fantasies than to the actual story and characters, yes.
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What are the chances we actually get a continuation?

Is it needed?
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>>118684119
Why would anyone want to run a loli sweepstakes? Seems like it'd be a lot of paperwork.
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>>118684122
Sayaka was the real leader of that plan. They both held the power of the LoC too. Not really arguing against Nagisa knowing things, I'm just not convinced she's that cunning.
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>>118684045
Nagisa approves.
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>>118684227
>Is it needed?

No, but it's set up to be awesome if it happens. Rebellion is an extremely finely crafted film. I wouldn't be surprised if magica quartet is unwilling to try doing that again or if the next film takes a very long time to make.

I'm sure it will be a film if it happens. There's no way they could tell a story like Rebellion's with episodes, and the next thing will be the same way I'm sure. The series has gotten too heavy and mature for the format.
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>>118684227
I think a continuation is unnecessary but Madoka prints money so it's definitely happening. I can just hope for an interesting direction like the movie took it.
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>>118684301
A child too immature to hold onto extremely important memories would never be able to keep that secret for the entire month and a bit they were in Homura's labyrinth
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>>118684301
Even if she is childlike, by being part of a connection to Madoka, she would more than likely be aware of the other timelines and at least.

Heck, she could have probably lived with any of the other girls but chose Mami since she was lonely and needed companionship. She even changed the appearance of her Witch form so she could be more expressive.
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>>118684456
at least be smart enough to know how to carry out a plan and explain it if necessary.*
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>>118684451
Indeed. I just don't think Nagisa is Homura's downfall. Loli secret agent is not a threat.

>>118684456
I think she might be less consciously aware than someone more mature. She says she came on this mission because she wanted cheese.
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>>118684779
>Loli secret agent is not a threat.

I absolutely wouldn't want to see a film focused on Nagisa's absurd attempts to take down one of the most powerful beings in the universe. That would be awful. Also, I don't believe that Homura is dumb enough to leave an agent of the law of the cycle to their own devices after seeing that Sayaka kept her memories. I just wouldn't be surprised if Nagisa is involved.
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>>118684779
translate anyone?
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>>118684937
>a film focused on Nagisa's absurd attempts to take down one of the most powerful beings in the universe
I'd watch it.
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>>118685244
It then slowly starts to turn into a scenario like what Homura went through for Madoka dueing those timelines with Homura taking the role of Madoka and Nagisa as Homura.

In the end, she suggests a HomuNagi ship.
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>>118685530
Homura forgets about Madoka, Madoka gets pissed and rewrites the universe again, this time making it the same as the very first timeline so Homura will fall in love with her again. The entire series loops endlessly.

I await my paycheck in the mail, Urobuchi.
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>>118685721
Gotta release it on every video format possible.
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>>118685530
>she suggests a HomuNagi ship.
Does Madoka like to watch Homura abuse others?
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>>118686144
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Why is there no yuri holy quintet/sextet H doujin?
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Does anyone have a screenshot of that scene. There was a miniature table with some weird dolls, was similar to Devilhomura's eternal return table in Homura's fake city scene. I wonder if it was a foreshadowing.
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>>118687343
How does it make you feel to see your favorite magical girl experiencing mind-bending pleasure as a result of futanari sex?
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>>118687396
I'm more concerned about her head fusing with her shoulder.
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>>118687396
feels like a dead thread
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>>118687396
>your favorite magical girl
>implying
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>>118686801
I wasn't able to find anything like that in the scene or afterwards but I did screencap a few things I thought were interesting.

Please excuse the use of snipping tool.

One of Charlotte's familiars. Dissapears the same way that the Clara Dolls do.

http://i.imgur.com/TTVMNw8.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/KBXjA9p.jpg

"Countory of Sweets" and "Good Morning". Former can refer to Charlotte while latter could be a reference to the beginning of the movie.

http://i.imgur.com/0bfGwRi.jpg

Top right corner. Oktavia face. Bottom left Charlotte?

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>>118687740
>Charlotte's familiar
Cool I didn't notice that.
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>>118687740
I noticed this but I didn't recognize that the familiar was Charlotte's. Nice catch, anon. Glad I stuck around.
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>>118687396
Futanari is not a problem for me. I'm not some sperg who thinks it trashes the characters or whatever.

But that shoddy art certainly does.
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>>118686801
You talking about this table?
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>>118688116
Not that guy but it shows up at least 3 times during the scenes where Homura is walking after talking to Kyouko and then again when she calls her.
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>>118688116
Exactly. Well, it had same design to that eternal recurrence table. Still can't sure the context.
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>>118687740
Same anon here. Forgot to upload these.

Mami saving Nagisa from falling cheese. Bunch of wrapped candies shaped like Charlotte. Could be nothing but interesting nonetheless.

http://i.imgur.com/Zxndkyn.jpg

Random building in closing shots when showing everyone's new lives. Full of Walpurgisnacht imagery.

http://i.imgur.com/5ATfppC.jpg

If anyone here is a pro at translating Witch Runes, what does this say?

http://i.imgur.com/sziISGO.png
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>>118688307
>Random building in closing shots when showing everyone's new lives. Full of Walpurgisnacht imagery.

That melon on the left.

Too lazy to translate runes right now, but I also noticed this when I last watched earlier today
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>>118688260
I didn't worry about it. Imagery should support the events of the movie, not the other way around, so if you can't think of the meaning without grasping for straws, it must not be relevant to the movie.
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>>118662631

Yeah, I want to have wild sex with both Madoka and Yuno really really badly, in fact they're at the top of my list next to Mitsuki from KnK.
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>>118688417
Here's a mostly complete one.
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>>118688618
Oh crap, I thought I got it all there.

I'll go translate.
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>>118688307
The jar says Gertrud wie, or "Gertrud how" in German


>>118688618
I went back to my media play and found a shot with the whole thing. It says "Die ewige wiederkehr des gleichen"

google says it's from Nietzsche, meaning "eternal recurrence of the same"


I'm sure other people have done this
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>>118688717
Much appreciated, anon.
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>>118689090
>Die ewige wiederkehr des gleichen
So basically another reference to the time loops, eh?
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>>118689509
Seems like it. Maybe more looping is coming. I know the clara dolls chant "Gott ist tot" as kyuubey is wrapping up his big speech. It's another Nietzsche quote meaning "god is dead" and obviously it shows up right before Homura tears down Madoka
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>>118689600
More looping could mean that Akuma Homura is defeated, she resets the universe like she would with a timeline and is continuously defeated each time, never knowing why and how she is failing to keep order.

Would be too "Meh" if that were the case though.

Speaking of new universe, I wonder if any of the spin-off characters will make an appearance in the sequel. Yuma, Kazumi, Oriko etc.
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>>118676878
I still like the series alot but I see what you mean. The movie did a masterful job with making you empathize with Homura. Everything was just so weird and surreal and you couldn't understand anything. But then everything is revealed and it just makes so much sense.
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>>118689795
Doubt it. I'm pretty sure all the spinoffs aren't canon.

>Akuma Homura is defeated, she resets the universe like she would with a timeline and is continuously defeated each time, never knowing why and how she is failing to keep order.

That's a cool idea but a whole film centered around it would be awful.

I think they're gonna have to keep the sequel's story more straightforward. More convoluted stuff at this point is just going to lose everyone. Hell, people were lost with Rebellion. I think it's gonna be straight up do something about Homura and fix the universe.
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>>118690041
They're really different experiences too. All I was saying is that in terms of sheer deftness of artistry, Rebellion clearly has a lot more things going on.
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sequel won't happen
rebuilds of madoka will maybe someday
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>>118690216
Silly guy.

Do people say this just to troll, or did they really misunderstand Rebellion that bad?
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>>118689090
You're pretty late on that.
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>>118690108
Well, we aren't currently sure whether we are getting a film or a season 2.

I wonder how Rebellion would have actually worked if it was implemented as it was originally planned by being season 2. Urobuchi and Shinbo mentioned that they thought they didn't have enough content to fill an entire season but I'm not so sure to be honest. I think it could have worked if it kept everything in Rebellion and maybe added a few things in.
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I wish they would animate the Drama CD stuff. They would make for good OVA material.

Same with the spin-off stuff, canon or not.
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>>118690355
Yeah, I'm sure it's all archived somewhere. w/e. Translating them by hand is fun.

>>118690424
It would probably have been less confusing but also less of a spectacle. Rebellion is one of the most rewarding films I've ever seen. I wouldn't change a thing about the way they told the story

>>118690560
I didn't bother with them, but that would probably be really cool. Aren't Kyouko's parents in one? Actually, right now the next thing they release needs to be huge-scale because of where Rebellion ended. Down the road that would be awesome, though.
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>>118690693
They actually could be working on the next installment as we speak.

The anime came out in 2011. 2 years later we got Rebellion in 2013. Add another 2 years and that makes 2015.

Not counting the first 2 movies since they were literally just recaps with some minor new stuff.

That April Fools prank could actually turn out to be true. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if by next year we also have a domestic release for Rebellion.
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>>118690789
>could
Gen's had the follow-up done since Rebellion 's theater release.
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>>118690847
sauce

Only thing I've heard lately was that they had plans for a half-year anime with possibly new writers.
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>>118690847
Well that would be great.

>>118690789
>domestic release for Rebellion

I've been thinking about biting the bullet and importing the collector's edition to Canada for ~$150.

Honestly, though, out of principle I hope they don't dub it. Christina Vee fucking sucks as Homura and none of the English cast knows or cares about the series at all. I know I'd watch it and I know it'd be upsetting.
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>>118691177
Just ignore the dub then. Buy it purely for the fact that it would be more than likely cheaper than the original and include a DVD copy as well.
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>>118691313
Man, imagine the scene where Homura captures Madoka dubbed. That would be absolutely ridiculous. I'm not even really a sub snob, but in this case the whole thing would be ruined
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>>118691177
>cake song in english
That would be so awful I almost want to see it happen now.
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>>118691817
No-that's-wrong
I-am-the-apple
bebe-loves-the-round-cake
Isthecake-Mami?

fuucck
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>>118691817
German, Korean, Spanish, Italian, French.

Let's watch em all!
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>>118692074
Now I really want Aniplex to hurry the fuck up so I can listen to it XD
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>>118691711
Is the dub really that bad? While I don't consider myself a sub only elitist I almost exclusively watched shows dubbed, but I have dubs that I enjoy like steins;gate and even some that I like more than the original (like cowboy bebop)

But yeah I can't Maine them signing the cake song in English, it was already weird and out of tune in Japanese and English will just make it sound weirder.
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>>118693047
I meant subbed... I watch most of my shows subbed
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>>118689509
That's nietzsche.
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>>118693047
>>118693110
Like any dub, it did take some getting used to for the first few eps but it gets better as it goes. When Kyoko arrived, that's when I really started enjoying it.

Lauren Landa is fantastic as Kyoko. Before her, I was pretty indifferent to the others in the cast but from the moment she started speaking, she definitely gets my vote for best VA for the dub.

Big props to Cassandra Lee as Kyubey as well. Does just as good as Emiri Katou.

Sure, the Japanese cast is pretty good but I wouldn't simply brush aside the dub actors. When looking back on it all, they all did pretty good with what they were given, although slightly questionable choice when it came to giving Kyosuke a girlish voice but not horrible.

I mainly watch the dub out of convenience but I'm not opposed to watching subbed either. Hopyfully Rebellion does get a domestic release soon since I would like to hear them in material that isn't related to the TV series. It's a shame that Aniplex and Namco Bandai didn't bother trying to localize the PSP and PS Vita games. Would have also been interested in seeing if they could of localized the drama cd stuff like what Bandai did with those Code Geass side stories.
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>>118693571
Hopefully*
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>>118690282
No one is trolling. If you don't see Rebellion as the ending, you are stupid.
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Will the inane wifu wars ever die?
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>>118693635
So you're calling Urobuchi a liar when he says that Rebellion isn't the final ending?
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>>118693655
>wi-fu wars
Wireless magic-fu war?
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>>118693886
The events of Madoka Magica were actually a virtual reality world.
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Sayaka and Homura are shit and their fags are too.
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>>118694041
shut up hitomi
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>>118688427
I agree.
I just remembered that there was a such scene depicting that table earlier. And then there was also a billboard in the one scene of TV series depicting a parasol thing or like that.
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>>118693886
>private pixiv page
I kind of like that artist, would you mind posting the rest?
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>>118690282
It's a shame that Sunny Day Raifu is the only Madoka SoL we'll ever get.
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>>118696427
Shit, when did they do that. Don't think I have the whole set, for some reason. I have some others from the same artist that I saved from /a/, so maybe someone else has it.
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>>118696849
Ah, okay. Thanks anyway.
Thought I scopped all the worthwhile art from them a long time ago, but I didn't have that one.
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>>118697094
There's some in the archives that I don't have. So someone probably has the rest.
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