I don't get it. What does everyone see in this bitch? What's her appeal?
You're right, Sempai! Nee-san a shit, there's no reason for anyone to love her.
I'll pick Sakura, she's perfect anyway.
Rin isn't best girl, but she's better than Asuka by miles.
Asuka tends to make Shinji's life shittier with her baggage, Rin is more of a support. Rin has a temper, but beyond that, I don't see how you can say their tsun qualities are similar.
Shirou can actualy be quite perceptive about people
I really like how she appears perfect,but then makes huge mistakes like fucking up her command spell by being too emotionally driven.
That really shows deep down she's still a kid who doesn't know wtf she's doing.
Asuka is literally the worst of both Rin and Shirou put together (No sense of self, exaggerated Tsundere, Ginger, broken German.)
It's why she's the perfect candidate for Rin and Shirou's future daughter.
Old bitch, not worth it.
Fate/Zero was originally written as light novels by Gen Urobuchi, a fairly well-esteemed writer in the business. Fate/Stay Night was written by Nasu, the main Type-Moon writer who is considered mediocre-at-best with some interesting ideas. And Fate/Stay Night originated as a pornographic visual novel which means it's harem crap with high schoolers and a terrible protagonist. To compound things, the anime version was animated by DEEN, which means its cheap, ugly, and badly directed. I've heard nothing good about it, and the clips I've seen have confirmed those impressions.
Why did this guy try to start off appearing as someone knowledgeable but end that his conclusions are so obviously based solely on his lack of exposure to the source material and bias?
When Rin catches Shirou ogling Rider in their date, she admits to doing the exact same thing. She definitely wants to ride Rider herself.
>Gen Urobuchi, a fairly well-esteemed writer in the business
You realize that at the time Gen was struggling and had trouble writing anything at all, right? Nasu literally saved his career by giving him Fate/Zero to work on, and Urobuchi readily admits this. Working with an established setting and characters let him dive right into storytelling instead of getting bogged down in generating ideas. Gen is foremost somebody who excels in dramatic storytelling, being handed an amazingly detailed setting and several developed characters to play with was a godsend for somebody struggling to create a strong author identity.
That image triggers me.
She only wears ZR in her casual attire.
School uniform has a long skirt
I agree OP, she is fucking irritating.
I was so pissed of in heaven feel route. I was expecting fianlly the main character would go against her, or she would be killed by her sister... instead he was even more submissive than in the other route. For me the ideal ending of heaven feel is the one inwich
that guy don't defeat dark saber and Tosaka get absorbed by Sakura, fuck yeah.
I never found the non-thumpnail version before.
>muh dark and edgy story.
>Just like my soul
Do you have more of that chibi art?
After two routes of pathetic goody two shoesness and after breaking your balls with the "unlimited walls of text work" about anti-heroes, that was the way to go. Ally with Sakura, kicking Tosaka's ass nice and slowly, make Sakura collect all the souls, surrender to the warp and the dark gods.
Anti-hero this, anti-hero that, and in the end that guy was just Tosaka's obedient little bitch as usual.
What a subtle way to confirm Ilya as best.
Doesn't matter which universe, all have their merits.
That's probably my one and only gripe about Heaven's Feel. Shirou, even though he is clearly taken by Sakura and continuously states her love for her, STILL feels like he's crushing on Rin throughout the entire fucking playthrough. Even if Shirou resolves himself to save one girl over the entire fucking world, he still manages to get nervous around Rin and think about her romantically on occasion.
This isn't like Shirou in UBW and Fate where he crushes on the heroines for a long time, Shirou from very early stages of HF makes love to Sakura and constantly says how committed he is to her, yet he still manages to act like a dumb shy kid who doesn't know the touch of a woman around other girls. Rin is also at fault for constantly teasing him in tempting ways, even if she doesn't know it. The only time she respected Sakura's relationship with Shirou was when she accidentally ate his bento. Shirou pissed me off in that scene too.
Give Sakura a fucking break already, why does her one and only love have to be so childish? I really don't blame her for anything she did. Kid got the short end of the stick way too many fucking times and it's only a coincidence that she was bestowed with so much power.
That sisters scene at the end really moved me though. I loved how Rin tried her fulfill her role as Fuyuki's watcher up until before the very end. I felt genuinely angry at Rin the entire time given her responses to Sakura's rants and made a complete 180 after she realized how she just really couldn't do it. It further highlighted her "fucking things up when it counts" trait for me.
Shirou likes Rin, it's just a fact. He likes all the heroines, and his interest in them show up even "outside" their routes. Rin is the school idol who he's had a crush on for a pretty long while, you can't just expect him to /not/ be attracted to her.
It's the same shit with Saber in stuff like UBW. People are harping on about how he's paying a lot of attention to her in the show, well no shit, he thinks she's beautiful. Even if she's not gonna "win" the dude still has a crazy hot foreign chick sleeping right in the room next to him. Who wouldn't get flustered?
None aside from those chibi edits of Rin+Shirou combo that's been posted countless times already, sorry. Have an OTP instead.
Tosaka fucked things up for the entirety of that route. The only things she achieved was to piss off constantly her sister, even treatening her when Sakura could have just snapped her finger and having Rider deal with her instantly. She just ruined her relationship with the guy she loved and was the only escape from her shitty existance. Acting always as the only one that would be able to defeat the bad gramp, and instead
Sakura just did it by herselfmaking all of Tosaka meddling totally useless. And in the end it was all Tosaka's fault that they ended to deal with Sakura.
Seriously, we can really consider Tosaka as the true villain and evil of the heaven feel route. Everytime she was involved she just pushed everything more into the shit.
Sakura acknowledges/realizes that she ripped all those people to shreds way too late. Her falling under Zouken was just her way of coming to terms with the all the sins she unknowingly committed. She cornered herself by saying there was no way to atone for her sins, so she might as well play the role of the sinner full force. She also knew that it was only a matter of time before Zouken would control her. I don't think she originally anticipated she'd have enough power (or become numb enough) to rip out part of her nerves, but the point is, it was only a matter of course given how shit her life was.
I realize that but why I feel HF is different is because Shirou actually makes meaningful and hard decisions in that route, regarding his choice of partner, his entire fucking morals, and his virginity. He puts practically everything into the Sakura bucket and it annoyed me to a certain extent that he still manages to act flustered in the face of Rin's taunts and teases. I can't really blame him too much though, they are all very appealing and constantly make advances towards him.
I have no idea. I just finished it recently. It definitely felt like anything remaining of the Illya route was thrown in there, and I've had that confirmed to me by numerous anons. Some people even say Rider too which is weird to me since she didn't play as big of a role as I thought she would.
You do a pretty good job at twisting every single event in the route.
Why does everyone seem to think Rin isn't anything other then straight? As >>118234254
pointed out there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for her behaving that way that has nothing to do with her sexuality.
And as for the 'Threesome', that was her trying to save their lives from Bezerker. In those situations you have to do things that normally you wouldn't do to keep everyone alive. She did what she had to do and took no pleasure from it.
Seriously, this trying to have all woman be pseudo-gay is just a gimmick.
I'm just speculating because I'm pretty sure Rin in Heaven's Feel is the only character in the game that lets you earn superfluous points. There are flags in Fate where you need Saber points, balancing Rin and Saber points determines which ending of UBW you get, and balancing Sakura and Ilya points helps determine stuff in Heaven's Feel as well.
Rin points in Heaven's Feel are the oddity, if I'm not mistaken.
I agreed with some of the points you made in the post I replied to, but not to this extent. After the sisters scene, it seemed to me that Tohsaka, for the entirety of Heaven's Feel, was just doing all she could to steel herself and do what needed to be done. It was what needed to be done at the time too, a lot of people could have been saved if she was of mind to do it, but she wasn't. It felt like to me, that everything (aside from the Shroud) that Shirou learned about Sakura was learned by Rin at about the same times, but just like Shirou, she couldn't bring herself to do it.
Her tough talk was all revealed to be a facade in the end, and you can't really ignore that since it's practically one of the most important points of the entire route.
Not gonna talk about the gay thing or whatever but this
>took no pleasure from it
is certainly wrong.
You are responding to a troll.
Or atleast to someone with absolutly zero reading comprehension.
Throughout the entire VN it was basicaly hammered into your head that Rin cares deeply about Sakura.
Fuck even Shirou realises that in HF, the route where he is easily the least perceptive
Maybe this one too.
But it doesn't realy need translation
Actually the last scene looked ridiculous to me. Sakura was able to literally re-assemble herself after being cutted into pieces, and
extract things bare-haded from her heart. Tosaka the moment she destroyed her trumpcard was already fucked making her "sacrifice" just ridiculous. Yeah, i understand the gesture, and the reason behind it. But basically this is the only thing she got right in the entire route, and still looked like ridiculous.
>Kid Shirou will never help cheer up Kid Rin
>Throughout the entire VN it was basicaly hammered into your head that Rin cares deeply about Sakura.
Relatives are snakes, is said in my country. Or "God, protect me from my friend cause i can handle my enemies by myself".
Yeah, she care. So what? Judging by the results it was much better if she didn't.
Do people really not "get" Rin in HF? in the route, she goes full magus mode. You can see it in other parts of the novel, where she hardens up and tries to live up to the expectations of her family name; being a strong traditional magi, but it's in HF where that's fully on display.
The thing is though, as the route eventually shows, that's not her. Deep down she's kindhearted, and ultimately can't bring harm to people she cares about. Hell, as a side note to that, in UBW she even straight up saved Shinji despite him being a total cunt.
Actualy I think that UBW displays the differences between her magus self and real self better.
HF focuses solely on her relationship with Sakura.
Though both come to a similiar result at the end
There's always CapSaba
>Actualy I think that UBW displays the differences between her magus self and real self better.
I agree, UBW dealt with the struggle between her magus self, and self she wanted to be, but HF showed what happens when she tries to go full in to that darker "real magi" persona. She comes out at the end, but it's more of an exploration of that part of her character.
This looks neat, but the game itself seems really lame. I mean they go for the whole Pokemon motif, and it's not? Like, seriously, how do you fuck that up.
At least we're getting it translated. The dialog is probably the most interesting part.
You're telling me this does not scream Pokemon to you? The character designs? The capsules that looks like Pokeballs? Come on, man.
I see what you mean about the character designs for Rin and Shirou. The capsules never looked like Pokeballs to me though, they remind me of actual capsule dispensers you see at asian marketplaces and whatnot.
I guess the name is there too since Pokemon is short for Pocket Monsters in the east.
So yeah, I suppose you may be onto something regarding the Pokemon thing. The game looks fun though, and is what I'd expect from a minigame featuring SD charas. It doesn't have to be as deep (gameplay wise) as Pokemon or whatever. You're just supposed to collect cute SD charas and have fun watching them wack the shit out of each other while occasionally casting spells/skills that cutely reference source material.
The masters themselves are adorable, femHokuto's interaction with Shirou was pretty funny.
>Jeanne: It might finally be coming! The Jeaaaaaaaaanne boom!
>Jeanne: There’ll be a Red Jeanne and a Sakura Jeanne, gosh, guess there’s no helping it since I’m such a popular character!
>Jeanne: It’s so haaard, it’s so haaard being popular, I’m tired of all these Jeanne clones…
>Jeanne: …Do you think I might be well on my way to becoming a star cash-cow like that?!
>Shirou & Lancer: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.
I doubt Shirou would get to fuck her, as I believe some of her power comes from being a Holy Virgin.
She goes from tsun, to dere with a dash of yan.
>What does everyone see in this bitch? What's her appeal?
Her appeal is precisely that she's a bitch, i.e. a generic tsundere.
If you think Rin is a bitch I'd hate to hear your opinion on more standard tsunderes.