/ak/ thread

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>>118205319

Why are all so pure and sane in Ribbon Warrior?

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>>118204629

Thank you based Swiss.

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>>118205554

>>118204660
>Rin's handlebar dildo

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>>118205614

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>>118205389
>RIbbon Warrior
>pure
>sane
Don't skip taking your meds, Anon.

>>118205750
Where can I get fetish related h-manga?

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>>118206548
uh-oh!

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>>118205819
The /ak/ wiki

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>>118205922
>Boomerang attack in first panel
cant_unsee.jpg

>>118206930
So is she actually pointing a gun at her or is this all in her head?

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>>118207144
uups!

Remember boys and girls: leave the ramming tactics to the Canadian themed school, eh!

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>>118207219

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>>118207272
those god damn background mob characters...

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>>118207334

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>>118207398
this moment is pretty cute if you ask me

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>>118207464
RW better get Yuri sex scenes before it ends.

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>>118207529
tired after a long round of sex inside the tank.jpg

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>>118207571

I like where this is going.

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>>118207592
>merde!
French is such a beautiful language to swear in if you ask me

>>118207592
see
>>118166752

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>>118207728
forgot to say, De Gaule-chan is named Asparagus, and they were the ones that Saunders lend-leased the M22 to

>>118205725
>Fights tank with bow & arrow.
>R-RAMs into your tank
Yesplz this is the best thing I've seen this week!

I can not get over how smug they all look.

>>118207901
also no chapter next month. Nogami you lazy Schmock!

>>118208034
B-but I need my monthly tank-yuri fix!

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kind of fun to go back to look at the pre-kancolle vehicle girls.

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>>118208034
Damn, and I was thinking just now how I couldn't wait for the next chapter in January.

>>118208034
Just when it's getting good. That sucks. Oh well, I'll just wait.

>>118208298
Damnit Japan, that's not how baby tanks are born!

>>118207901
Tradition of weird names in GuP continues. Love it.

>>118208455
Hana must be pleased as well

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>>118207592
Aw! How cute!

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>>118208429
maybe more like this then?

>>118210333
That is more inline with my expectations.

>>118210333
Dat is a phat ass.

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>>118207219
>>118207272
>>118207398
USA USA USA

>>118210333
combat dump

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Did /ak/ enjoy Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone?

>>118212364
Iz dat sum Mauser?

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>>118213065
Probably.

>>118214500
Das a K98. With wartime mounts.

Eh, milsurp was cheap back then. Even kraut shit.

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>>118214570
It's not like someone who works with Lupin will ever want for money or something trivial like a particular firearm. If Jigen's using it, it's probably because he wants to.

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>>118212364
Neat. Had no idea it was out.

>>118206002
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>>118206149
Was anyone able to follow that? What the sod just happened there?

>>118214570
>milsurp was cheap back then

Back when?

>>118206350
YES GIVE HER THE OL' MUSTANG AND SALLY

>>118215217

you know the cliche where two guys with katanas rush past each other and there's a single strike and both wait a moment before one realizes he's dead

that happened with tanks, the panel with the sword is a visual metaphor (also the Saunders girl had a gun instead of a sword b/c america)

>>118214995
Tfw a moron destroyed an SVD and an SVD-S, the former one of 4 known examples, and the latter completely unique in the US, that he inherited because he was commiefornia scum who was afraid of guns and his wife told him to.

What's even worse is he committed several felonies, from creating an SBR to improperly disposing of a weapon.

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>>118215478
Was that legit though?

I wanted to think it was an pretty good troll.

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I have come to this thread to escape the other one.

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>>118215942
Me too.
Tank it easy.

>There are /pol/tards posting in this thread

And I thought so highly of /ak/. A good reputation ruined by cancer.

>>118215942
>>118216250
Shh, if you talk about it, the faggots might start arguing in this thread too.

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>>118215942
>>118216250
SO CUTE GIRLS AND TANKS RIGHT?

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>>118215942
>>118216250
I don't understand why people can't love all tanks, ships, planes, guns, and countries equally.
TIME FOR CUTE GIRLS!!!

>>118216552
>I don't understand why people can't love all tanks, ships, planes, guns, and countries equally.

Not all tanks are created equally. To enjoy them all equally is asinine and a farce.

>>118208034
When do you plan on starting TL?

>>118216447
10% of /a/ also uses /pol/ according to the recent poll so I don't know what you're complaining about

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>>118216612
But anon, the quality of the tank doesn't matter, all that matters is that you enjoy Sensha-do.

>>118216681
Please don't respond.

>>118216681
>>118216447
100% of posts are a shitpost so really there should be no surprises of quality.

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>>118216732
Well said Yukari.

>>118216820
But you just did anon

>>118216732
>But anon, the quality of the tank doesn't matter, all that matters is that you enjoy Sensha-do.

And If I don't enjoy it and only enjoy certain tanks?

>>118216899
Why do you enjoy the tanks then?

>>118216890
To the initial post.
This thread is polite and friendly.

>>118216732
If your tank is bad, that's just a challenge!

>>118216928
Does it matter? If so, why?

>>118216977
And if you come last in the race you still get a trophy. Its a pity the world doesn't work like that and to think otherwise is to delude yourself.

Not all tanks are created equal - to treat them and revere them all equally is asinine.

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>>118216949
Th-thanks anon. We here at /ak/ pride ourselves in being civil and quality posters.

>>118217012
Curiosity.

>>118217076
Yukari is surely shaking her head while reading this.

>>118217076
>only the better tanks win and it does always
I was under the impression that both the series and the reality disagree with you, Anon.
The best COMMANDER is the one who usually wins.

>>118217139
Good for curiosity then. Hopefully more cats won't die from it.

>>118217259
>The best COMMANDER is the one who usually wins.

Lets put our tank ace in a 38(t) and put him against a IS-2. Clearly our tank ace will win nay?

>>118217248
Good for her. Thank goodness we don't all hold her flawed philosophy to be higher than the bible.

Its a relief that some of us live in the real world and don't pretend that everything is equal.

>>118217361
I'm sure YOU wouldn't, because you'e already surrendered.

>>118217516
But her philosophy i the philosophy of love for all things tank. Surely we're all here because we love tanks?

>>118217516
Watch that edge, son. You're not allowed near sharp things until you turn 12 in 2020.

>>118215344
But the Type-97 never even turned around!

>>118217594
So you're confident that a 38(t) is perfectly capable of knocking out an IS-2.

Has anyone told you that you're incredibly deluded? I think someone should.

>>118217644
>Its now edgy to not hold all things in equal value

Amazing what you people are willing to do to shitpost.

>>118216510
Shouldn't that be an M18?

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>>118217671

>>118217644
Shut the fuck up.

>>118217631
>Surely we're all here because we love tanks?

But we don't love every vehicle equally as she wants us to.

If a tank is garbage and had shit service record then it deserves to be shunned and hated by all.

>>118216612
>enjoying rooting for the underdog is a farce
I pity your teachers and parents

>>118217756
And its this guy again who thinks he can win any argument by posting this exact image. Its his ace in the hole.

Good luck with that anon.

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>>118217804
But that's so mean!

>>118217881
How sad.

>>118217833
Sorry to inform you of this anon but we don't live in Hollywood movie land. The underdog loses 9 times out of 10.

This is why you should strive not to be the underdog. The underdog is the loser.

I pity your wallet, judge of character and life decisions.

>>118215263
The seventies.

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>>118217916
It is. :(

>>118218020
Why'd they get so expensive all of a sudden?

>>118218072
Democrats

>>118218035
What possessed them to put that asinine dome on top of an already retardedly high profile turret?

>>118218072
Limited supply.
Nobody makes Kar98k's, Luger P08's, etc anymore.

>>118215543
It makes me feel better to think that people are just pretending, like they can't do something that stupid.

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>>118218125
I don't know but it sure is cute.

>>118218125
They wanted to create the tallest MBT ever.

>>118218243
>Hurrdurr tanks are cute

This is why you are considered cancer in every community outside of girls und panzer.

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>>118218125
Because they wanted the enemy to see them coming, so they had time to shit themselves before they were blown back to the stone age. HIDING IS FOR COWARDS!!!

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>>118218395
Where do you think you are?

>>118218402
Why is there a swastika on the turret ?

>>118218453
I know where I am. I'm just explaining to you why you make me cringe so badly I'm close to crushing my ribcage with my chin.

>>118218488
No clue, don't know anything about the managa/comic, just plucked it from a thread over at /k/.

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>>118218522
No need to cringe friend, enjoy the tanks and cute girls.

>>118218522
So why are you here.
There is a tank general on /k/ if you want actual serious tank conversation.

>>118218136
So all of a sudden the number of existing examples dropped overnight? Did they just cease to exist or something?

>>118218637
No.
Everybody just bought them.
And now the only way to get them is through gun buybacks, and relatives of dead collectors.

>>118218637
>Did they just cease to exist or something?

Well seeing the amount of millsurp destroyed in Australia/Bongland, i guess so.

Or it just went off market in M.E or some shit like that.

>>118218615
>I enjoy girls und panzer
>I do not enjoy people refering to tanks as cute

Forgive me that I find it painfully embarrassing to be associated with people who refer to tanks as cute and "Kawaii".

I supposed I should stop enjoying girls und panzer and just focus on actual tanks instead simply because you said so.

I believe the correct response to this is to tell you to fuck off and die in a ditch.

>>118218721
>Everybody just bought them.

Overnight?

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>>118218757
You need to calm down and redirect your autism into something more constructive and adorable.

>>118218757
But multiple characters in the show refer to tanks as "cute".
Do you hate them too?

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>>118218819

>>118218844
Do you really want me to answer that?

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>>118218813
Over several decades.

>>118218819
>You need to calm down and redirect your autism into something more constructive and adorable.

Certainly, you get digging the ditch and I'll prepare you for becoming a corpse.

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>>118218873

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>>118218895
Yes.

>>118218984
Yes Anon, I dislike them.

>>118217671
The problem is you're basing this match on only one thing: knocking out the other tank. Tanks can do a lot more things, such as scouting or infantry support, that the 38(t) would be much more suited for than the IS-2. Every tank has something it's good at.

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>>118218945
rude

>>118218950
I wish to see it doing a multitrack drift.

It's a shame both threads went to shit like they did.

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>>118219014
Alright.

>>118219018
>Every tank has something it's good at.

And some tanks are clearly better than others, can do the same roles better and are generally all round superior to their counterparts.

But according to your holy tomb we should treat them as if they were the same - despite one vehicles obvious superiority.

>>118219168
Yes, because most tanks are generally good at what they're supposed to do for when they were built. A Panzer IV wouldn't stand up to a Leopard II, are you saying that that means the Panzer IV is useless?

>>118219018
>Every tank has something it's good at.

Some of them are good at being destroyed.

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>>118219072
Don't give up just yet anon.
>>118219168
All we're saying, is that we like tanks for tank's sake, pic related.

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>>118218593
Super Panzer 4.

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APC's/IFV's are pretty cool.

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>>118219354
I like it.

>>118219241
In the 1980s it would be.

The fact is, as I've already explained, not all vehicles are created equally. To treat them as equals is asinine.

To praise every vehicle for not being a pile of shit is asinine. That what your sacred tomb does.

It finds one good thing to say about a heap of shit and that it. To love all tanks equally is asinine.

You know it. I know it.

You don't love them all equally and I sure as hell don't.

Its a complete farce and posting >le tog maymay >>118219280 is fucking embarrassing.

Grow up and get out of this tank fantasy land.

>>118219504
>Grow up and get out of this tank fantasy land.
Where do you think you are?

>>118219072
Both taken by edgelords. And teh dedicated one of this thread is rather smug, even if his facts don't check. Like, he's arguing not that tanks have intrinsecally different capabilities, but that they, and I quote, "to enjoy them all equally is asinine". Big flash, Anon: enjoyment is not related with capabilities. You're mistaking the fictional sport of senshado and the fandom about cool machines with their usefulnes in actual combat.

And he's also doint it wrong. The argument about how a 38(t) would be unable to do anything against an IS-2 even with a better commander just cracks me up. He surely ignores that there's an even more extreme mix-up - a M8 car vs a Tiger. And the M8 *won*. inb4 "source" - boku no google it, all requests belong to /r/. Now, before he says "b-but that's an unlikely case", yes, why, thank you for noticing, that's why it's a proof of a superior enough commander.

Please, folks, just ignore him and return to how Shizuka and Rin should get a goddamn room

>>118219504
You're autism is showing.

>>118219554
Clearly I'm in a thread surrounded by children who live in a tank fantasy land. Children who blindly follow the rule that not tank is bad if you can find one crummy, shitty good thing to say about it.

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no love for the humble 58

>>118219565
>I don't have a source

Also improve your English - its difficult to understand in numerous areas.

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>>118219565
Lol I think this guy is just funposting.

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>>118219280
TOG2 was cool, but I'm more partial to the classics

>>118219616
Yes, you are. You are in a thread to talkj about fandom, not a military analysis forum. Just in case you hadn't noticed.
And I'm laughing at you for that.

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>>118219616
I hope you had fun baiting on another board since your home board got nuked. I'm off to go kill myself for replying to such shitty bait.

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>>118219628
Dirty dumb
Czechoslovakian scum
Beaver puke furniture is sexy

>>118219670
To be fair, that one was more a case of shit generals and the tank being designed for an outdated doctrine. Had WWII been another trench war, it probably would have done its job right.

>>118219663
>I don't know how to google things myself
Just follow this link
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=M20+scout+car+vs+tiger

>>118219663
Dude, that history is known as fuck. Next time you'd ask for source that Otto Carius started in a 38(t)

>>118219565
>I enjoy inferior military vehicles that get shit on by their contemporaries.

So this entire thing is about justifying enjoying shit vehicles? You guys really went through all this to do that?

>He surely ignores that there's an even more extreme mix-up - a M8 car vs a Tiger.

Because actually giving citations would be cheating now wouldn't it? I'm just going to presume you've made it up.

Much like how I recall a Medium Mk. A Whippet destroyed a M1 Abrams - but no sources that would be cheating. You'll just have to trust me, okay?

>Please, folks, just ignore him

I'm sorry for tearing apart your hugbox of every tank being equal and should be loved equal but unfortunately the truth hurts. Trying to silence me isn't going to change that.

>>118219881
I'm still laughing at your lack of understanding of the simple fact that we're talking about tanbks in the context of a fictional sport.

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>>118219745
dont you talk shit about mai raifu

too bad bakelite traps heat like a mofo

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Is the Vol. 4 Red Steel High omake included in the chapter? The archive ones 404'd

>>118219881
Why don't you go funpost on your nuked containment board?

>>118219881
Man, sauce has already been posted of the well-known history you say is made up. Battle of the Bulge, kiddo.

>>118219737
A fandom that reveres every military vehicle exactly the same no matter its abilities. Ironically you've been posting military analysis in your fandom thread. We all make mistakes.

Don't worry anon, I'm laughing at your poor English and anger over your little world crumbling about you.

I'm sorry I don't blindly follow the cult. Forgive me for applying different worth to different vehicles. I truly have sinned by not acknowledging that all tanks, no matter how good or shit, are all equal in the hugbox children universe.

As i said before - grow up and start living in the real world.

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>>118219954
Its OK.
no substitute for a nice AK, my canuck friend

>>118219828
Sad to say anon but your google search doesn't bring up anything of note unless you really want to use wikipedia or even worse axis historyforum as your source?

At which point I'm going to die of laughter after putting it in the trash where it belongs.

>>118219444
Assuming they're any good (M2/3 Badly series do not apply).

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>>118220060
>tfw noguns

>>118220060
Do you take me for a bagged milk buying degenerate?

>>118220176
Oh wow, are you gonna quote "Pentagon Wars" on that?
Reminder that Bradleys tore Iraqis the fuck up.

>>118220163
>dismissing Wikipedia outright
Anon, the Wiki is useful for the kind of things that aren't subject to opinion, like tech articles or verified combat records. "During the Battle of St. Vith in the Battle of the Bulge, an M8 of Troop B, 87th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron was able to destroy a German Tiger I heavy tank. The M8 fired three 37 mm rounds through the relatively thin rear armor of the Tiger from only 25 yd (23 m), setting it on fire. Source: U. S. Army Armor School Staff (1998), The Battle at St. Vith, Belgium, 17–23 December 1944: An Historical Example of Armor in the Defense, Merriam Press, pp. 31–32, ISBN 978-1-57638-145-8"

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>>118220272
>milk
>in bags
What is this I don't even.

>>118218136
>Nobody makes Kar98k's, Luger P08's, etc anymore.
Truly suffering but it gives them a special status at least.

Do you think bolt action rifles will completely disappear one day ?

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>>118220314
Don't respond to obvious bait anon.

>>118220360
It'll probably stay around for sniper rifles, but other than that probably.

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>>118220319
Its an East Coast thing.
>>118220360
>bolt actions
>disappearing
No.

>>118220363
Nevermind, Anon. It's funnier to laugh at the edgelord than having yet another "Sherman sucks vs Sherman rules" flamewar.

>>118220060
>burgerlanders don't own VZs

>>118220314
>Anon, the Wiki is useful for the kind of things that aren't subject to opinion, like tech articles or verified combat records.

Pity your sources don't actually contain the combat records of the engagement. President Obama might as well have use a time machine and killed it with an M72 for all we know.

Oh well another post into the trash. Wikipedia warriors thinking they know everything.

Pathetic.

>>118220474
Trust me anon, if I could exercise my rights, I would.

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>>118219263
Even those can be lovable!

>>118220468
>Its now edgy to not hold all things in equal value

Amazing what you people are willing to do to shitpost.You're this butthurt I had the gall, the sheer gall to believe that your precious tanks aren't all equal.

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>>118220439
Canadian here. Haven't seen milk bags in ages. Used to be amused by them when I was younger, and would poke and squeeze them in the grocery store.

>>118220257
Get a hunting license and enjoy.

Depend where you live but here it's pretty simple and you have access to wide range of guns.

>>118220436
>It'll probably stay around for sniper rifles
Why is that ?
I mean is there an improvement other than reliability and easy maintenance over semi-automatic systems ?

>>118220580
>>Its now edgy to not hold all things in equal value
You've said this too many times, son. You're repeating yourself.

May I suggest you changing the wording? If you ar eto serve as amusement, at least put some effort

>>118220579
>T-34
>Lovable

I mean if you like the prospect of an early grave, sure, why not?

>>118220677
>get a hunting license
I'm still in college, so even if I had a license I couldn't become hasguns.

>Why is that?
In bolt action, all the gas is directed towards pushing the bullet out the barrel, while in semi-auto and automatic, part of the gas is used to push the bolt back.

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>>118220677
They're lighter, more accurate, and simpler to maintain in harsh conditions.
Semiautomatics have their own advantages too, though.

>>118220704
>You're repeating yourself.

Because you unfortunately lack the intelligence to understand simple things.

>If you ar eto serve as amusement, at least put some effort

if y ouar eto serv eas amuseme ntat lea st pu tso meff ort in. If you're going to defend your holy script you could at least try instead of impotent butthurt rage.

Oh no! Not all tanks are equal! What a crime!

>>118220727
>Duck Team
>T-34
Anon, I...


also, slowpoke, but
>>118215478
have you a cap of teh /k/ thread?

>>118220502
399 for a vz2008 down here in true freedom

it's CAI I know, but for the rifle and five "Trayvon Martin slaying" 30 round magazines, I couldnt resist. Plus she's cute.

>>118220853
>You
>Missing the fact I was talking about the T-34 all along

You just shit on your own tank for no reason.

Not sure if this was posted here before, but here's a large collection of cute operators.
http://imgur.com/a/Bfins#38

>>118219808
>To be fair, that one was more a case of shit generals and the tank being designed for an outdated doctrine

Just like the M4, but everyone INSISTS that was a perfecctly fine tank.

>>118219881
>a Medium Mk. A Whippet destroyed a M1 Abrams

Wouldn't surprise me, actually.

>>118220927
*YOU* were taking about T-34 and saying "some tanks are good at being destroyed". *I* was answering that post with another tank thats good at being detroyed.
don'explainthejoke.jpg
sorry for explaining the joke

>>118220977
You really aren't hiding your mass shitposting very well.

I would suggest fixing your fucking keyboard first.

>>118221014
hey, RAAT, you're late to the party, Grab some popcorn.

>>118221046
You shit on your own tank for no reason.

>>118220312
Nice knee-jerk reaction.
They also got tore the fcuk up by Iraqis.

>>118220822
>all the gas is directed towards pushing the bullet out the barrel
I see, kind of makes sense that you want an extra punch when shooting from long distances

>>118221125
Shit talk the Bradley all you want, it has a perfectly fine service record.

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>>118221084
>popcorn

>>118221125
No doubt you'll be able to give countless examples of them being

"tore the fcuk up" by Iraqis.

In fact why don't you just list the problems you have with the Bradley and we'll be sure to blow you the fuck out on every one - do try to think outside of pentagon wars.

I know its unfair denying you your primary resource.

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>>118221112
>needing reason to poke fun at I-Go's propensity for beng whiteflaged
There was a reason it was left in that cave, you know...

>>118221239
You

Shit

On your own tank.

>>118220314
http://www.combatmission.com/community/showthread.php?p=1287326

>So what German units were involved at or near St. Vith that might have had tanks in that time frame? St. Vith was on the border between 6th Panzer Army in the north and 5th Panzer Army in the south. The closest units were those of the 6th Panzer Army's 2nd SS Panzer Corps and it seems that elements of the 9th SS Panzer Division were possibly those involved since it was sent in to support KG Hansen of the 1st SS Panzer Division farther north at Poteau. There was much intermingling of units on the limited road networks in the area and getting definitive location/time fixes for the units is not simple.

>Heavy tanks in the German armored units in the area all seem to have been Tiger II's, though Tiger I's were with one battalion (PANZER-ABTEILUNG (Funklenk) 301) that did not make it into the area. I spent some time looking at all these Tiger units' histories and could find only losses of Tiger II's on the 18th and none in the vicinity of St Vith, although Panzergruppe Peiper had some just north of St. Vith.

>The 7th Armored Division's combat on the 18th, according to Maj. Boyer's account, was primarily with elements of the 1st SS Panzer Division and the division's reported kills by the end of the 18th included 1 King Tiger, 9 Pz. IV's, 1 "assault gun 88mm (Ferdinand)", 2 75mm assault guns and 8 armored cars.

>Since there were numerous Pz IV's and Panthers operating with all these known German armored units, the possibility that the tank said to have been killed by the M8 was one of them cannot be ruled out, given the frequency with which the IV's and Panthers were misidentified as Tigers, and (for that matter) Nashorns and Jagdpanthers were misidentified as Ferdinands.

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>>118221125
>>118221221
>arguing about Bradleys
Back to normal, I see

>>118221298
(cont.)

>Given what we know of the Tiger II's rear armor being 80mm, similar to that of the Tiger I, it stretches the imagination to conceive how a 37mm weapon (with at best around 50mm penetration) could succeed in knocking one out, even at point blank range from the rear. To be fair, both Tiger I and II did have openings in the rear hull for exhausts and it is not impossible for a lucky hit to penetrate one of those exhaust port openings and proceed on to ricochet in the engine compartment and perhaps damage the engine and/or fuel lines. Is this what happened?

>Like Jason, I have to agree that the evidence to prove this story is conflicting and not necessarily convincing. We have the documentation of a mechanized infantry company commander that he witnessed this M8 knock out a tiger and he was convinced enough of his facts that he reported it to his battalion S-3 (operations) officer, Major Boyer.

>In the end, each reader will have to decide what he elects to believe about this story: either the wartime reports of witnesses (and the well-regarded histories published after the war) or to depend upon postwar analysis of data, albeit by an amateur (yours truly.) Objectively, I have to give great weight to the latter (data), but the former (wartime reports) cannot be entirely discounted since, as we all know, in wartime almost anything seems to happen at least once.

>My take on it is that it is entirely possible that it happened, but the odds are frankly against it working out as described. Now I leave it to some other forum member to simulate the attack and see if his M8 can penetrate a Tiger's rear from point blank range.

Textbook example of what happens when you allow rumors and hearsay to run rampant and don't inform/educate your personnel.

tl;dr Murken military can't stop being retarded.

>>118221125
Out of curiosity are you the same guy who was posting in total war general?

You have the same fuck ups in your typing.

>>118221298
>>118221333
N-No! The superior commander clearly won!

>>118221221
>do try to think outside of pentagon wars

You seem to be obsessed with that.

>I know its unfair denying you your primary resource.

You're projecting hard there, son.

>>118221460
Still waiting on all those issues with the Bradley anon. Don't feel the need to rush or dodge the question - I've got plenty of time.

>>118221345
>total war general

Is that a tabletop game?

>You have the same fuck ups in your typing.

?

>>118221530
>Is that a tabletop game?
Come on man, I don't really play RTS but even I know what Total War is.

>>118221527
Feel free to use that time to practice what you preach.

>>118221298
>>118221333
>each reader will have to decide what he elects to believe about this story: either the wartime reports of witnesses (and the well-regarded histories published after the war) or to depend upon postwar analysis of data, albeit by an amateur
Nice try

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>>118221530
So you are the same guy. Wonderful. I get to see you get #wrecked in two threads in such a short time.

>>118207464
>>118207592
These two are so fucking adorable. Thanks for posting, Momo.

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Next chapter of the Takao sidestory is also here.

>spoiling a heavy cruiser's lunch

>>118221565
I'll be sure to do that just as soon as you list all the issues you have with the Bradley.

I'm sure I'll have enough time to gather all the information I have on the vehicle.

>>118221333
Anon... are you really posting a random videogame forum post by an armchair historian as a counter-source???

>>118221702
You issued the challenge, therefore you can deliver first. Certainly it shouldn't take any time at all for you.

>>118221849
You have reason to believe he's just pulling those combat units cited out of his ass?

>>118221849
In fact, a post where the armchaitr historian asks someone to try to replicate the scene in the videogame to see if it would work.
Really, REALLY wish it wasn't against board etiquette using emoticons, becaus this needs a "roll eyes" one.
Oh, what the fuck. Just once. 9_9. My apologies for that.

>>118221911
How can I deliver if I don't know your issues with the vehicle anon? In which areas is the M2 Bradley not good?

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>>118221911
you were the one to make a claim, the other anon asked you to quantify it

all you are doing is dodging his question

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>>118222028
The question isn't whether or not it worked, the question was whether or not there were even any Tigers there as claimed.

>>118222010
The combat units he quotes are the ones that say they withnessed a M8 knocking out a Tiger, and how. Not just an unconfirmed tale by the crew. A confirmed kill with withnesses (plural). THOSE are the ones I choose to believe.

>>118221849
I'd honestly trust the combat mission forums more than bad sources on wikipedia.

>>118222028
This being possibly one of the most realistic second world war game? With accurate vehicles, penetration, armour and everything else you would need?

Would you prefer us to drag Tiger 131 out and shoot at it with a M8 Greyhound instead?

>>118222146
>I'd honestly trust the combat mission forums more than bad sources on wikipedia.
We already knew your opinions were disregardeable, you don't really need to provide even more proof.

>>118222033
You said the Badly tore Iraqis the fuck up. Deliver.

>>118222086
He made a claim, I made a counterclaim. I'm calling him out.

>>118222124
The GERMAN combat units, genius.

>>118222086
You seem to misunderstand. My first post is >>118221221 which first asked you for examples of them being "tore the fcuk up" and then asked you to list the problems that you have with the vehicle.

I'm willing to ignore the "tore the fcuk up" and merely require your problems with the Bradley.

So what are they?

>>118222204
>Forums with autists who pick over tiny details
>Shit wikipedia source

They're both pretty terrible. The Combat mission one is just not as terrible.

Its like choosing between a shit filled diaper and a shit and puke filled diaper.

>>118222314
Oh, where to begin; let me get a list. (read: this may take a while to type up and edit)

>>118222221
you made the first claim in >>118220176 therefore the onus is on you to say what you think is wrong with Bradleys


>>118222314
you realize >>118222086 was telling him to say what he thought was wrong with Bradleys?

>>118222519
we have been waiting for this list since your initial post on the subject

>>118222519
Translation: I do not have anything I will use this to retreat from the argument and save face

>>118222539
I don't THINK, I KNOW.

>>118222628
I wasn't asked until halfway through the discourse.

>>118222644
Quit jerking off and just keep the thread alive.

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>>118219958
Not sure if that one was translated/typeset. I'm going to post a few that probably aren't archived in the wiki.

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>>118222766
stop dodging and tell us what you think is wrong with Bradley's

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>>118220677
Less moving pieces and tighter tolerances help with accuracy and consistency.

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Kind of sad when /ak/'s commissioned pillow covers are the only new merch out there for Upotte.

Then again, the only other one is a bootleg FAL probably made by the chinese 2 years ago.

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When will Gloriana show up in Ribbon Warrior?

>>118223310
>Only has cruiser tanks
I don't think they can just tactic their way out of that one.

>>118220050
This is comedy gold.

Sod it, trying to list everything is an exercise in futility; I'll just give you what I have so far.

It tries to be too many things at once.

It can't even carry a full squad.

It's got an overly high target profile.

It's excessively heavy and its mobility suffers as a result. Also, ground pressure.

It's not easily transportable (it can only be carried by the largest transport aircraft).

It's considerably more expensive than its contemporaries.

Its firepower is pathetic (25mm peashooter with a rate of fire slower than most muzzle loaders).

The utility of TOWs is a severe liability given that it renders the platform a sitting duck and poses a hazard to personnel nearby.

Its ergonomics suck.

Its fuel is stored internally.

Its armor can't stop anything larger than rifle caliber bullets (additional armor just exacerbates the weight issue).

It failed to fulfill its very raison d'etre: it DOESN'T SWIM!

The fact that no one else wants it is pretty indicative of its merit as an IFV.

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>>118207398
America stronk.

>>118206002
>tank changes direction in a split second

...

>>118206149
>eponymous character knows the exact moment when the enemy will fire

...

>>118206301
>4.7 tonne tank rams 7.4 tonne tank and doesn't pop its flag

...

>>118207219
Gee, and here I was expecting the Type-97 with its unstabilized gun to fire a shot while moving at top speed and still somehow manage to land a direct hit on a target moving at top speed in the opposite direction. I'm not sure whether or not I should be disappointed.

>>118223650
Yeah but the sherman was a good tank.

>>118223650
>It tries to be too many things at once.

It tries to do the same amount of things any IFV does, and it is successful in them.

>It can't even carry a full squad.

It carries 7, just like its contemporaries.

>It's got an overly high target profile.

Except it doesn't.

>It's excessively heavy and its mobility suffers as a result. Also, ground pressure.

It has similar weight to its contemporaries.

>It's not easily transportable (it can only be carried by the largest transport aircraft).

Air transport is not the primary method of moving vehicles either.

>It's considerably more expensive than its contemporaries.

Except it isn't.

>Its firepower is pathetic (25mm peashooter with a rate of fire slower than most muzzle loaders).

Because of available ammunition has more penetration with that 25mm than any of its contemporaries.

>The utility of TOWs is a severe liability given that it renders the platform a sitting duck and poses a hazard to personnel nearby.

TOWs are no more dangerous to nearby personnel than any other ATGM

>Its ergonomics suck.

Compared to Russian IFV's they are luxurious.

>Its fuel is stored internally.

Are you serious?

>Its armor can't stop anything larger than rifle caliber bullets (additional armor just exacerbates the weight issue).

It is rated for 30mm cannons on all sides.

>It failed to fulfill its very raison d'etre: it DOESN'T SWIM!

That was never its raison d'etre, proven by the fact that no one cares that it is not amphibious.

>The fact that no one else wants it is pretty indicative of its merit as an IFV.

Except it is used by more than just the US.

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>>118206350
I want a fucking OVA of this with wild wild west music and references to cowboy movies.

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>>118223238
Those are the ones, thanks!

>>118225658
KATANA SLICE BULLET IN TWO, NIPPON STRONG.

>>118224455
>It tries to do the same amount of things any IFV does, and it is successful in them

Other IFVs try to destroy tanks?

>It carries 7

BMP can carry 9.

>Except it doesn't.

Contemporaries are shorter.

>It has similar weight to its contemporaries

Laughing BMPs.jpg

>Air transport is not the primary method of moving vehicles either

If you want to get them somewhere in a hurry it is.

>Except it isn't

Operating costs, costs of maintenance and repairs (which is required exceptionally often), etc.

>Because of available ammunition has more penetration with that 25mm than any of its contemporaries.

They said it could knock out MBTs. They lied. It also doesn't accommodate anything even remotely effective in terms of antipersonnel munitions.

>TOWs are no more dangerous to nearby personnel than any other ATGM

It's supposed to work in tandem with dismounted infantry.

>Compared to Russian IFV's they are luxurious.

Fair enough.

>Are you serious?

Yes I'm serious.

>It is rated for 30mm cannons on all sides.

Overrated in the most literal sense.

>That was never its raison d'etre

Remember Lang Vei? (apparently not...)

>proven by the fact that no one cares that it is not amphibious

Not sure if you're trolling or just retarded.

>Except it is used by more than just the US

The only other user is Saudi Arabia, and the only reason they have them in the first place is because we gave them to them for free as compensation for allowing us to use their real estate to stage military operations during the Gulf War so we wouldn't have to actually pay them. Further orders are not forthcoming from there or anywhere else.

Which GuP's nationalism is comparable to Togo's from Yuki Yuna?

>>118225961
>BMP
lol

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>>118225630
I want to see her in the movie, fighting alongside Anzu.

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>>118225977
The versions of Saunders and Gloriana you see in the gag spinoffs.

>>118225961
>Other IFVs try to destroy tanks?

Quite a few do, the lack of built in ATGM's on Russian IFV's is a shortcoming.

>BMP can carry 9.

BMP's carry 7

>Contemporaries are shorter.

By a negligible amount.

>Laughing BMPs.jpg

paperarmor.jpg

>If you want to get them somewhere in a hurry it is.

A C-17 can carry 2 Bradleys, are they slow now?

>Operating costs, costs of maintenance and repairs (which is required exceptionally often), etc.

So you have no idea what the costs actually are.

>They said it could knock out MBTs. They lied. It also doesn't accommodate anything even remotely effective in terms of antipersonnel munitions.

Bradleys did knock out T-72's in Iraq with the 25mm, and they got more tank kills overall than Abrams did.

>It's supposed to work in tandem with dismounted infantry.

Firing a TOW is not dangerous to dismounted infantry.

>Yes I'm serious.

BMP's carry their fuel internally as well.

>Overrated in the most literal sense.

Except it is true.

>Remember Lang Vei? (apparently not...)

Something that happened before Bradley's were even thought of, and has no relevance.

>Not sure if you're trolling or just retarded.

I should be saying this to you.

>The only other user is Saudi Arabia

Everyone who cannot make their own IFV is either ordering wheeled vehicles or picking up old slavshit from the bargain bin.

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>tfw no qt3.14 operator waifu

>>118227832
>Quite a few do

Not as a default feature.

>he lack of built in ATGM's on Russian IFV's is a shortcoming

Depends on the mission it's tasked with; even then ATGMs have their drawbacks.

>BMPs carry 7

They CAN carry 9.

>By a negligible amount.

In a deathtrap like that I'd like to reduce the odds of taking a direct hit as much as possible.

>paperarmor.jpg

Just like the Badly!

>A C-17 can carry 2

Yeah, you have any idea how much it costs to operate one of those things? Have you considered the facilities necessary to accommodate them?

>So you have no idea what the costs actually are.

More that I didn't think you'd care to crunch numbers.

>Bradleys did knock out T-72's in Iraq with the 25mm

The BMP's primary weapon has a larger bore, a heavier projectile, a more powerful charge and a comparable muzzle velocity and it can only punch through 55mm of armor (i.e. not enough to punch through MBT armor from ANY side). How does the hype explain this discrepancy?

>and they got more tank kills overall than Abrams did

Yeah, MBTs aren't the only vehicles classified as tanks. Lies, damned lies and statistics.

>Firing a TOW is not dangerous to dismounted infantry.

It is when said infantry is close by.

>BMPs carry their fuel internally as well

The M113 has external fuel cells to minimize risk to the crew and passengers.

>Except it's true

Practical experience says lol no.

>Something that happened before Bradley's were even thought of, and has no relevance.

That incident is the reason they decided to develop the Badly, you moron.

>I should be saying this to you.

Trust me, you're looking more questionable as far as that's concerned.

>Everyone who cannot make their own IFV is either ordering wheeled vehicles

We use those too; they're a complete disaster (even more so than the Badly).

>or picking up old slavshit from the bargain bin.

Still more functional than what we've got AND capable of wrecking the Badly.

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>>118228507

I've been torn between my Touhou waifu and /ak/ raifus, but sometimes they play together.

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Also some of them can be pretty metal.

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>>118229795
Not really into Touhou, but man am I sucker for cat/fox eared girls

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>>118227832
>>118229681
Can both of you please shut the fuck up? God damn.

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>>118230420

indeed

>>118206830
what kind of mushrooms did she have for breakfast?

St. Gloriana girls are shameless sluts. Especially Assam.

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>>118217361
Prez almost did.

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>>118231180
oh my