>Xmas cakes are called like that because they are 25 and still havent gotten married
So let me get this, in Jap land all the girls get married before 25?
Twenty-five is sort of young when you can only get married at eighteen, but that's still seven years to find a partner. If you can't manage that in nine, you're considered "day old", so to speak.
I'm not saying I agree with the cultural idea, but I understand why it exists.
You see in Japan, culturally they are not about individual enrichment. It's what YOU can provide your nation. If you're busy partying or in a gang you are considered worthless.
If you are not striving to be top of your class, get a great job that overworks you, get married, and start pumping out babies then you are a failure as a human being.
>Traditional BS that no young person living in modern society will give a shit today
>Demanding corporate work culture that makes settling down and getting married unrealistic
>Age set by herbivore men to act like they have a choice in the women they jerk off to
Indeed, I mean even when I was a kid I always find it odd how hard Japanese cartoons pushed the Nakama shit. Like it was quite weird when my parents always told me friends are dime a dozen.
It sounds like he had good parents who didn't want to disillusion their kid into thinking that everyone he meets is a unique friend for life.
Correct. In my entire life I think I've had one close friend, and even then we weren't really close. Friends are overrated and overvalued in today's society. You need someone you respect, not a friend.
To be fair, traditionally you're be expected to have your shit together by 25. That means settling down for a woman. Better earlier than later when you're not as desirable and it's rougher taking care of children and the home.
Sounds like you're too quick to ignore and brush off anything you don't agree with, rather than thinking what reasons someone would have for holding that opinion. That's normalfag behavior.
Sounds like you've built up a sad little defense mechanism to explain why no one likes you, and in the process you've managed to sound like a shitty anime villain
I haven't watched Pokemon since Diamond and Pearl became a thing so help me understand something here. Boobs take up half the screen, and Ash is clearly blushing. I thought they stopped doing things a 5 year old shouldn't see a long time ago.
Are you just incapable of not understanding why someone wouldn't want friends? They're not the end all of life.
Newfag pls, christmas cake is a term because it's present in japanese culture as well, not just cartoons.
Japs get married later than most Americans and Europeans. It's just a joke that gets thrown around because almost all women are a bit sensitive about aging. Like if you call any woman fat, even when she isn't, she'll get upset.
This. Also, biologically speaking, women are in their baby-making prime between 16 and 21. That will slowly start to deteriorate once they reach 24~26.
>25 you are still young as fuck
Maybe to you. I am 25, and already feel like I am way behind on the marriage-and-kids rat race.
I have friends but I dont care much for them. For me they are to keep appearances and use them when needed. I might do a favor here and there but most of the time I say I'm busy. I only do favors if I can find a way to get something out of it.
The deterioration of their ova is not really that big a deal at those young ages. It's when you reach 40-50 that you might want to think twice before you raise an autist. At least that's what I heard, so I could be wrong.
>Maybe to you. I am 25, and already feel like I am way behind on the marriage-and-kids rat race.
>average life expectancy is 78 years in America
>wanting to get married only 1/3rd into your life
>1/6th of your life has been as a child and preteen, with no real responsibility or freedom
>liking the idea of making a decision while young that will, in an ideal scenario, bind you to a person for the remaining 2/3rds of your life
>Implying his wife won't say "I only cheated on him because he won't look at me" after he works his butt off to make a living
>Implying the marriage will last the rest of his life when the divorce rate is so high
>Dont do it bro
Where do you think you are? Do you think I have any marriage prospects or tens of thousands of dollars do blow on a ceremony?
So instead, you think it's a better idea to let time pass, lowering both my prospective outlook and output, rather than putting together a solid plan and working toward the goal in the next few years? I'm afraid I don't agree.
Marriage is scam anyway and women aren't that worth it anymore, at least in most of Yurop and the US.
And the first step into the world of scams is buying an engagement ring. If you have to marry, at least get a girl who's cultured and smart enough to not fall for the ring propaganda.
Listen if you haven't been rolling in pussy (or cock for the ladies) by the time you've hit 25 it suggests you are defective either in looks, personality, or both and are undesirable as a mate.
Nobody wants someone who is 25, lives with his parents, watches anime, and is in his 6th year of community college while he works part time at McDonalds. If you are unattractive or even just average on top of that then you have absolutely no chance. And on top of that having no previous sexual experience at all makes you even worse.
There's a reason we consider those who haven't had a gf before 30 perma-virgins. It's a similar reason with Japan and Christmas cake although that has more to do with the importance of youth and appearing youthful which is big in Japanese culture.
>Marriage is scam anyway and women aren't that worth it anymore
That's why it's better to make a great friend, live together with him and do homo things with him when you both need release that you can't get by yourself.
Watching anime with your bro, enjoying a good wank over some loli pron, some gaymin, and then blowing each other while living together and enjoying one's company.
AniBros > Females
>not moving to Japan to claim yourself a desperate 25-year old.
As long as he shaves, has some good hygiene and is under 200 then it's fine.
Most of /a/ is actually pretty average in weight (average to American weight) says the 2012 (and the one from a few days ago) /a/ statistics.
White piggu go homu.
Hope he's a CharKing Imperial I tell you wyat.
They have to be under 10 years old of course.
I have what you described with a girl. She's the love of my life and I would be nothing without her.
we grew out of anime
(why am I here?)but we watch the good shows when they finish.
Everyone in this thread needs to leave /a/. Now.
Is this some raid thread again or is "let's pretend to be underaged retards and cunts" time again? Half the post seem to have come from facebook, including OP, who sounds like a butthurt fat girl
>Nobody wants someone who is 25, lives with his parents
What's with this strange American mentality of once you hit 18 you must leave the house or else you're a failure at life. Rent isn't cheap, especially if it's anywhere near a decent university. Why spend half your free time working a minimum wage job just so you can justify having a shitty little apartment when you could instead have free accommodations and food living at home?
Fuck this. You're not a primitive animal and your genes probably aren't worth passing in the first place.
The meaning of life is whatever the fuck you want it to be, and the greatest accomplishment is the one you are the most proud of.
Devoting your life to marriage because society says so is dumb. If you do it, do it because it's one of those accomplishments you genuinely want to reach.
Come on man. That's a stupid statement. What makes you any different from a wild animal then? What makes man different is that we can shape our lives in an infinite number of ways, and yet our basic instinctual reproduction is what you focus on? Your statement may sound thoughtful at a first glance, but it isn't. Having a kid does bring happiness in its own way, but it is not the entirety of life.
How old were your parents when they had you?
27 for me
Not him, but you do know the reason why people in America left the house so early right?
With the war, men were enlisting right at 18, and those who weren't were establishing themselves with women. Marriage was a young thing to do.
Now that marriage has went up in age, and the war not being a major concern, this type of mindest didn't go away.
And in fact it should have, especially during the 21st century's Great Depression that pushed young adults back at home while they dealt with loans that are becoming far more larger than it's ever have in the past.
Your reason for moving out is for freedom and to show the world that you are an adult. But really, if you're going straight into the workforce or getting college for practically free, you will still be dependant on your parents in some way. And really, you're no better than someone who lives at home.
There's a reason the extension of health insurance is 26. Because that seems about the adequate time to become an adult and start being "Free".
>tl;dr You're wrong.
This is standard in other countries like Germany. Kids who do go to university still commute. University is a no-nonsense learning environment unlike the summer camp feel in the US. Most people who live on campus only live there to fuck up anyway. You can literally study the same amount at home.
I don't wanna become a 50yo father of a baby, imagine when they hit 8 or 9yo, you would be too old to play with them.
I'm 23yo and I want a kid since I was 19, the only problem is that the only girl who said that would have a child with me is living in Spain.
But I'm an pipefitter. I never even got a secondary education, I mean fuck I got a kid. It's an issue my siblings have been struggling with, particularly my sister who got into med school but can't afford to live in the city and gets a bunch of shit from her friends over it.
>tfw you'll be 25 next year and you have never even held hands with a girl
I will be a wizard soon, I can already feel the magic flowing in my veins
It's true that the reason life exists today is because of reproduction, so it's correct if you take the meaning of life to be "Why are we here?". Fucking, making a baby and dying is how the majority of people in third world countries live their entire lives and no one tells them that they can do more, or they choose not to. Happiness is subjective eh
>to old to play with children
Its not difficult for older people to stay very fit well into their late seventies if they actually maintain an active and healthy lifestyle, especially in the modern world.
Oh fucking please. Everyone always goes on about this. Like you think you turn 30 and you wake up with wizard powers?
My God, do people not understand that at 30, you are accepted into wizardry to begin training.
My friend who's now 33 didn't get his powers until after 2 years of training.
The smart people don't have kids because it's the smart thing to do.
If I had the money those fuckers can earn I sure as hell wouldn't spend it raising a brat.
Live for now, let the next generation handle whatever issues this one causes.
This comment needs to be made into a Kelly comic
If you get married you tell Society you are ready to pay the high price for any eventual parental/conjugal failure. Society don't want to raise your offspring or to keep them in prison if you fail to care about them.
My mom is 42 right now and I'm 20
>having old ass boomer parents
I'm a 23 year old virgin but I've made out with three chicks and licked a nipple, not to mention one of the girls was a solid 8.5/10.
In the real world, I'm pathetic, but on 4chan, I'm basically Casanova.
They were 28, they dropped out of college at 20 to marry each other, my dad fucked around `at a bunch of shitty jobs and was basically a huge fuckup for a couple of years, then he joined the military, and my parents had me after his service was over.
I blew several chances in high school and in university. Then I started working and haven't even been around people my same age in 3 years. I don't even know what people my age even do with themselves, I just get up every morning at 8am and get home around 6pm and shitpost on the internet until midnight.
How do people have time to find relationships when there's literally no free time? There's a reason why people generally stick with the partner they met in college or high school once they go into the workforce, it's incredibly difficult to find someone else.
If you wait too long then you are set in your ways and it becomes difficult to find a person that you can marry, because you are willing to give up less. Then you become that fucking weirdo that everybody believes is secretly gay.
It may be hard for you to comprehend, but some children will eventually take care of their parents (Shocking, I know) so if the parents can help them during the most expensive time of their life (College) and make it easier on them than everyone benefits.
Not everyone is an angsty faggot who can't have an adult relationship with their parents and live their lives while being helped by their parents, who will eventually get the favored returned.
Men work more hours and for more money.
It's common sense that with females, who make up the majority of stay-at-homers, despite the job losses that made a considerable amount of men lose their job, are the ones taking care of children and homely duties.
Less successful seems like a term that can't be measure unless you specify what you call "success".
Is a father that provides (financially) less of a father than one who gives the basic minimum for finances but spends time and takes care of their children?
Seems to me, you value someone who is around other than someone who allows you to live in a nice home with nice things.
We are a society based on having things (despite media pushing "family", then trying to sell you shit to make you a closer family). So your values do not adequate to being able to decide if a man is a good father or not. Leave that up to CPS and children when they've grown up.
>tl;dr You're wrong.
>Xmas cakes are called like that because they are 25 and still havent gotten married
25 is a convenient catch label and goes with xmas cake. But the actual age should be between 30 to 33 I think.
That's because there's more than one factor at work. It's well-known that the older the woman, the greater the chance of birth defects. While it varies, in general, around the age of 30 to 33, the chance of defects jumps up significantly. Who knows what the contributory factors are? Is it telomeres in the ovaries shortening over time? Is it accumulated mutation damage to the ovaries resulting in accumulated damage to eggs developed and released? Is there teratogenic type damage transmitted via the ovaries of older women? Anyways, ignoring that aspect, it's basic common sense that the best possible mates tend to be chosen earlier because more males want the best females. Some great females of course will exist at cake ages because they deferred marriage, but the chance of leftovers is definitely greater in the older pool.
You can marry your waifu elsewhere.
Doesn't matter for me though, you can't marry "underage" boys. So you still have a chance.
>Warned my mom since I was 17 or so I was never getting marred
>Be 21, she's been in hyper drive about it the last few months
>Even wonders if I'm gay
This is getting real annoying, how do you deal with this?
And what does any of that have to do with a dad who spends his free time playing with his children helping increase social skill and confidence in others is worse than someone who just gives him money and a roof and then does nothing with him? Anyone who's just has a basic social or psychological sense would see why youre completely wrong.
Wait until you are 25 like the most of us anon. Then you will really get it.
Anon, I know you are successful, but if you don't marry now you will be failure in all of our family's eye! Anon, when are you bringing your girlfriend home?
I'm on the same boat. I think I'm just going to tell her I'm a faggot so she'll stop.
My biggest fear is her then trying to hook me up with gay men after telling my whole family that I'm a homo (she's a big mouth).
From that point on, I feel like the only step is telling her that I'm a pedo and fighting my urges with japanese cartoons so she'll get off my back (after telling my whole family). Which will forsaken any relations with them all.
Not sure if it's worth it, that's really just my "back against the wall" strategy though.
>obsessively watches foreign cartoons to the extent of coming to an imageboard to discuss it
She doesn't sound terribly clever.
If logic doesn't work you could always tell her you want to focus on your career or some other nonsense.
Like "I want to make sure I have a good job before I start a family and also want to take the time to find the right woman, not just the first one who'll marry me."
I really don't know what to do with myself. I am still somewhat young, I have a lot of money saved since I don't even buy anything with it, and I have no obligations or debt.
I sometimes wonder what it would be like to just quit my job and go on an adventure around the world for a year. I'm not getting any younger and it might be a nice change of pace compared to my boring and monotonous cycle of sleep-work-shitpost.
>This thread is still here
>It got worse
I told you guys to leave 100 posts ago. Take this shit to /r9k/ or something. I'd much rather be having a ronery thread or an incest story thread instead.
She's not, she's fairly confident when it comes to school/work, but when it comes to logic/common sense she's..really, really dumb, no disrespect to her but yeah.
I don't even want to give her the slightest delusion that it'll ever happen
My friend had the same problem, but he had it even worse. He worked night shift so he never had time to meet up with anyone and was too lazy to really go out during the weekends. He had a lot of trouble finding a girl and
eventually hooked up with a 33 year old (he's 25) with a kid.
I'm about to move to another city to start my career and I hope it doesn't happen to me.
I wish I could get an arranged marriage to an Ok candidate.
Finding someone as desperate as us is difficult on the other side of the sex divide.
The last choice is a mail in bride.
I did exactly that.
It shut her up completely, and I haven't spoken to her in 7 months.
It's not like I'd be an ideal father anyway, I'm pretty terrible.
Selfish, hypocritical, and saddled with a set of morals that I can see are terrible but don't want to make the effort to change.
At least I make decent money.
Work less and start going to community college. Not for the degree, but because there is no single place anywhere that has more attractive women than universities (excluding middle schools obviously).
>Also, biologically speaking, women are in their baby-making prime between 16 and 21. That will slowly start to deteriorate once they reach 24~26.
The thing is that you happen to be exagerating with this.
I don't live with my dad He barely has his own life in control to be bugging me about mine
Are you Indian?
I work for an Indian company and all of the guys my age are getting arranged marriages. They're all basically stereotypical neckbeards who have CS degrees. It's kind of bizarre seeing them all get married off since that doesn't happen with us white guys.
I wonder how the women feel about it? Do they want to get married to some smelly neckbeard? I doubt that they do...
>muh hierachy of needs
Okay Maslow, calm the fuck down.
Money is the most important part. I and other billions of people rather have nice things over a good relationships with their fathers.
I happen to have both, but material things > family.
And are you even right to assume that social skills and confidences can only be strengthened by a father and not their environment of other family members, friends, and how they perceive society?
Their behavior will be effected by Planned Behavior model. While a father can add to that change in social skills and confidences. Doesn't a father have to have social skills and confidence in order to teach their kin?
Their is still no correlation between a father who spends time and a father who provides more financials and nice things over that.
Of course any journal published by some mother/family magazine will say otherwise, but until you find me hard evidence, I will not believe such allegations. You're pretty much saying single mothers and lesbian parents do not provide what a father can.
it stems from when people COULD leave home at 18 and land a job that could pay for a decent living and work that job for the rest of their lives
some people haven't caught on that that isn't entirely possible anymore
If you really have the dosh then it's not a bad idea to take some time off. I don't have that luxury because my parents are going to retire soon and my brother doesn't make nearly enough to make ends meet.
Only edgy teenagers think like that in america. But look who I'm talking to, its mostly edgy teenagers from foreign shitholes who blame america for everything. You and him should hook up, you'd probably get along really well, listen to some linkin park and smoke cigarettes while your parents are gone.
>all these assumptions
All I'm saying is that a father who is friendly towards there kid is better than a cold authority. That's it. Saying a father shouldn't play with a kid like the post I first responded to is stupid.
I'm not saying only a father can teach certain things or anything like that. You are obviously one of those people who delusionally think they're smart for knowing some undergrad vocabulary despite the fact you completely missread all my posts and made them more complicated than they were to fit your fancy sayings.
Not a bad idea. Maybe I'll take a class or two per semester for no real reason. At least I would see people around my own again. I'm stuck in an office with nothing but boomers for 8.5 hours a day.
There's always the issue of potentially losing out on career advancement by doing that too...but I guess it doesn't matter what your career was when you're too old to enjoy yourself anymore. It's depressing to think that people my age have already passed their prime years doing pointless things when you could have been doing other stuff instead.
You sound like the voice of reason in those sitcom christmas carol parodies.
And remember it's just a piece of media that's supposed to fluff you up to present some false sense of togetherness during the season of suicides, depression, anxiety, and spending money on gifts.
Nevertheless, 15 is the perfect age for babymaking.
That's an even higher risk, and even higher at 40 and so on. But after about 25, your body is only in decline.
At the place I work at there is no possible way to advance. The other departments are even more stressful and have lower pay. I am going to get an interview with a larger company and hope that I can work there because I would make more doing the same shit and advancements are actually possible.
Though I don't think I really have the motivation to work up the ladder.
>It's depressing to think that people my age have already passed their prime years doing pointless things when you could have been doing other stuff instead.
It's not exactly pointless when most people need to work shitty jobs just to have a roof over their heads and food on the table.
I guess the privileged like you never had to deal with that.
Early 30's. My mom was married to a different guy before that but apparently he was an abusive asshole, I almost had a older brother from that but it was a miscarriage. She married my dad after all that shit.
>towards there kid is better than a cold authority.
Because not lying to a child about everyone around them being positive is something that life has in store for them?
Welcome to the real-world jackass. The world's a shitty place, better to learn it from Dad, especially when you took his life away being born.
Of course you implanting a cynicistic approach on life, but really cynicism is something I get behind.
I know I feel so smart and makes my argument more valid than yours right?
Wrong. I'm using what I know to counter your arguments.
Don't go treading my turf of communications if you can't handle some simple undergrad vocabulary.
Coddle your children and be friendly. It's your imaginary kid.
I'm 19, my parents are 60.
Oh, to know that I have missed so many wonders of this world.
I don't have a sister, but two brothers.
My cousins on my mom's side has three kids. Two girls, but the third and youngest is a 13 year old BOY.
I wasn't able to grow up with a young, beautiful mom either.
Me, both my brothers, and my parents wanted a girl.
They gave up after me.
Because a father can relate more with his son about the notion of marriage. A mother, on the other hand, feels like it's an insult to her pride as a mother when no woman wants to marry the son she so lovingly raised.
Also, "My son is such a wonderful person! What's wrong with these women?"
And also, grandchildren: so she'll have a second shot at raising children
Nips are just pedos and have petetpan syndrome.
I was looking at some MILF hentai the other day.
And the females were 23,24,25 and all complaining about how they're past their prime.
23 years fucking old.
I do some further investigation. I kept finding more and more "Milfs" 23-26 years old.
How dumb are nips? If you're Twenty-anything you're still pretty young.
Nips just refuse to grow up.
I lived in Japan for a while and brought this up a couple times in conversation.
Turns out it's complete bullshit, nobody's cared about marriage age in Japan for decades. Some parents are pushy, but not moreso than anywhere else in the world. This is purely a TV/manga trope.
>This edgy stereotypical view
Now you're just joking with me. I guess in all your research you found this make life's success and satisfaction rate go up too? You didn't counter my arguments, you vagely replied to your own made up arguments with vague theories them self.
Of course none of this really matters since you'll never be a father anyways. As a psy major on a pre med route I'll stick to what those with a doctoral in child developmental psy have told me over you.
>tfw your parents don't want you to have a relationship
It's pretty great
Nahh just means your lazy, nothing stops you from finding someone it's just the hurdles you'll have to deal with to stay together. Relationships are things you work at, not all girls have this mentality but they do have standards and it's up to the man to smooth things over.
If you're getting married before 30 you're doing it wrong.
You get out of college around 22-23 usually, and that's for a BA. EVEN later if you go post-grad. Even after that your first few jobs are usually shit, so it takes a while to find a good one.
Don't even start with me on kids, because those little things ruin your life. Your life suddenly becomes completely revolved around them. Early 30s for kid, but not past 35 though.
Mother wants the D. And the Dad wants the A.
>You'll always be our little boy
>No one can take you away from us.
Because they don't want me to turn out like them
They never tried in the first place it was always anon don't marry or fall in love its a waste of time and money but if you do good luck