What would a Metroid anime be like, /a/?
Has anyone read the manga before? Is it any good?
yes, and it is alright. most people don't like it though, mainly because Samus has PTSD in it, which conflicts with the "unemotional/robotic bounty hunter" image that most people have of her. I hear it is canon but I have source for that
i wish samus has a penus
trap metroid would be best metroid
Manga is Other M-lite but surprisingly not all bad despite that.
Metroid could work as a animated movie, but a entire show with only Samus and a dozen of background characters would get stale fast, I would rather have her as the head of some special division, think of it as SAC on space
Metroid's universe is luckily severely underpopulated, so it's easy to make new characters.
Just have the GFed get a task force of specially sanctioned Bounty Hunters or whatever, put her in a co-leader position and go on her way.
Have them fight pirates and monsters and whatever baddies they need to.
Has anyone read the Metroid Prime 2 Manga?
We really know jack fucking shit about Samus as a person.
Why is she a Bounty Hunter
What does she use the money she bounty hunts for besides the necessities?
Why do we almost never get to see her Bounty Hunt?
Does she have a home when not out Bounty Hunting?
Does she just sleep in her ship when not causing a planet or space station to blow up?
Does she have a favorite food
Does she even NEED food?
Does she have something to pass the time besides Bounty Hunting?
I know I'm probably asking a lot especially considering Other M trying to 'expand' on her character but damn she's basically T&A
It's not that simple. All the other times, Ridley survived. Super Metroid was his canon death. All the other times had justification for his survival i.e. rebuilt as Meta Ridley or phazon. Samus was more likely to be caught off guard by his sudden return than any other time. From her perspective, it's a logical impossibility. The planet his corpse was on exploded. She knows how Ridley survived the previous times so she didn't take any chances in Super Metroid. Yet somehow out of nowhere, he's back. Judging by her dialogue in the scene, she's more in denial that he's back than scared of him. Anyone would be shocked and confused by something impossible as what she witnessed.
She's a silent protagonist, a mechanic used to allow the player to more easily project their own thoughts and feelings into the story as the player character. Assigning specific personality traits runs counter-intuitive to that.
Except it was already confirmed the stupid Furby thing was Ridley.
And even if I'm wrong and the fact wasn't made clear Samus shouldn't be that stupid to not put two and two together
AND EVEN IF SHE WAS THAT STUPID, which Other M was want to do, she has beaten him plenty of times before. You shouldn't be scared of someone you have beaten and just beat again, which is easier considering Ridley was Ridley in Other M for a grand total of like 5 hours, meaning he was basically Godzilla Jr to Godzilla at that point.
More like, since what you want is to create a game where you explore a planet and shoot creatures in an enigmatic environment, the best way to do it was to make a silent protagonist and make an excuse to insert her in the game.
You know what would make Metroid interesting, actually developing Samus.
Maybe make her realize being a lone wolf isn't all that great.
Maybe give her someone she can talk to, she can trust, and the character isn't token is some way shape or form
Nah, Metroid doesn't really need a plot to work well, while adding the other bounty hunters to fight against would be a cool idea.
Metroid focus is gameplay, not story, just like most of Nintendo games.
It isn't, but it is in Metroid's case because she's behind a mask and can't emote.
Look at DQ8, the MC was silent there but we knew what he WOULD say because of the emotions his face showed.
Hell even Persona 3 and 4 were stupidly bare bones using just exclamation marks, Question marks, and sweat drop but those are still more than what Metroid gave us until Fusion and Other M's melodrama
Did you read my post or even watched past the intro of the game? Not only does Samus not know that little thing was Ridley until after encountering adult Ridley. How does anyone look at that furry ball & see Ridley? She also thought Ridley was dead once and for all. Of all the times she's seen him come back, THIS TIME HE'S DEAD. I say that's pretty major & justifiable. The Space Pirates? Gone with Zebes. Phazon? Destroyed at the end of Prime 3. How could Ridley be back? Not only that but without a scratch on him. Every other time he needed time to heal or recover. Here he's back in no time.
We really know jack fucking shit about Mario as a person.
Why is he a Plumber
What does he use the money she plumbs for besides the necessities?
Why do we almost never get to see him Plumb?
Does he have a home when not out Plumbing?
Does he just sleep in her drains when not causing a kingdom or flying boat to blow up?
Does he have a favorite food
Does he even NEED food?
Does he have something to pass the time besides Plumbing?
I know I'm probably asking a lot especially considering Thousand Year Door trying to 'expand' on her character but damn he's basically T&A
The last part doesn't work, obviously, but still. Nintendo doesn't really fill in the major points of characters in their games.
>It isn't, but it is in Metroid's case because she's behind a mask and can't emote.
That's the point - your emotions are the character's. Do you object to Gordon Freeman's lack of dialogue?
>Hell even Persona 3 and 4 were stupidly bare bones using just exclamation marks, Question marks, and sweat drop but those are still more than what Metroid gave us
Those were pretty shitty as silent protags, in my opinion. I'm getting the feeling that you don't understand the point of this mechanic.
>Samus was more likely to be caught off guard
Samus should never be caught off guard.
And knowing even the tiniest bit about the Space Pirates, Ridley showing up again should not even surprise her at all.
>By giving no characterization
Just because she doesn't have dialogue doesn't mean she doesn't have characterization.
Look at her in the Prime games. She walks with this confident gate, her eyes are always really sharp and focused, her gun is almost always raised and she's in a prone position ready to fight.
Hell, in 2 she shuts that Trooper's eye after she finds him. There's a level of compassion and humanity in her that we really haven't seen before.
And of course her little wave at the end of Prime 2, too. Again with the confidence. It's like it's just another day on the job for her.
Sure, the game was pretty good aside from falling back on Fusion's checkpoint system.
On the other hand it was also the first game to introduce the Zero Suit and the concept of the Power Suit as a "mental projection" - the first clear signs of Sakamoto's grand vision of THE REAL SAMUS.
How the fuck do you perform invasive mech-surgery on something "fueled by willpower", much less store the removed components afterward?
Knowing about the space pirates? They're gone aren't they? Atleast from her perspective they are. Her opening narration made that clear. She thinks they're gone and with good reason. Zebus was their last stand. All their big leaders are dead. No way to rebuild what blew up with Zebes.
How does Samus lose all her power ups at the start of each game? Even the games that have her lose power ups at the start game still don't start her off with most of her stuff.
>They're gone aren't they?
I mean, I never assumed they would ever really go away. They're like a virus. There's just too many of them. Even if their home base was blown up, there would be tons of remnants just floating out on the fringes.
She doesn't actually gain anything, just becomes more confident as the game progresses. She starts every game nervous and uneasy, unable to use the suit's full potential. As she continues she grows in confidence thus unlocking her suit's power.
>Sure, the game was pretty good aside from falling back on Fusion's checkpoint system.
The point is that in Fusion you had to go do the missions and everything in that order, in Zero it was more of a suggestion, you could always just bomb jump up and get the baria suit or get to Ridly with two missles, grip, and the short beam.
The story really didn't start until the GBA games anyway, Metroid's story was a NES story, you saved the world something something galactic federation. Super Metroid had a story but it was basically the same, and Metroid II had a baby metroid save your life. They really only got a story retrospectively when Fusion rewrote them, and a lot of Fusion was using the trick of eluding to something pretending that everyone had the knowledge to deal with it.
I always assumed she kept her more powerful items in a vault somewhere. Or gave them to the GFed for study.
In her day to day bounty hunting, she probably only needs the basics anyways.
An animal without a head. At most those remnants might become a fraction of their former glory. Their biggest leaders are deader than dead. Even if they recover, how could they recover so fast that their big leaders are back to life within days of Super Metroid? How do their big bosses come back at all after Zebus blew up?
This is every power up Samus has collected for her suit throughout the series.
I always assumed that the Space Pirates kept a closet full of completely grown Ridley clones that they keep just in case they need a new leader.
I'm not a fan of Sakamoto's interpretation of Pirates becoming vegetables or whatever when they don't have a big leader to boss them around.
Nah, she just hit her head during her bird training
& no clue on where all the crap she acquired in Metroid II went
Even assuming that, how would Ridley find the Bottle ship? With practically their last stand on Zebes a bust, how would they have any chance of finding Samus? It's quite a stretch if that was the possibility. Also wouldn't they've deployed multiple Ridley clones against Samus had that happened?
And if you add the Zero Laser from Smash Bros.
>how would Ridley find the Bottle ship?
Eh? GFeds were fucking around with cloning this time around. With as much DNA as he leaves around, it shouldn't be surprising that they found some.
>wouldn't they've deployed multiple Ridley clones against Samus had that happened?
That is working under the assumption that Space Pirates are logical creatures.
Prime Galactic Federation, not Other M Federation.
Judging by how their scientists decided to clone whatever scraps of DNA they found on Samus' armor/armour without regard for whatever hellspawn it might be, I say there's worse.
Samus didn't know that at that point. One issue with many anti-Other M fans is that they can't see what Samus does. That & them being incapable of watching the opening scene of the game.
>Space Pirates being rational
Truly their science team has vapor/vapour for brains.
The problem is that every time we see them, they're right next to Samus who is a freak of nature who can do everything
sans crawling. I assume they're able to hold their own against comparable threats that aren't extra dimensional hellspawn or what have you.
Still, I'm pretty sure somewhere it is said that Adam was the 'Greatest Military mind'
When you're so ignorant about logic that you can't process 'Maybe Samus would be upset if I act like a cold heartless monster that my brother is about to die.' You're already proving you can't even control your solider properly, the most basic of high ranking military.
It's just the suit. Hard to do with one hand, tremendous pauldrons, and inflexible knees.
The problem is that Sakamoto wrote a shitty story built around poor logic.
When you're trying to showcase a military mastermind, you can't have shitty logic like that.
Characters can only be as smart as the person writing them.
As soon as they introduced them they became fucking worthless. The best implementation of the federation was in Fusion, where they were shown as scheming and an agent of chaos where they deny you weapons and you're actually scared that they'll get the SAX in the end.
In general Fusion was one of the best games thematically, because it was Alien. The federation was the corporation from Alien and the SAX was the Alien, far more powerful than you and hunting you around the ship so that if you messed up it would destroy you.
Yes the decision made sense.
To not up and Say 'Samus There is actually No way you can make it. I wish there was, but there isn't.' doesn't.
He makes himself come off as fucking emotionless monster instead of even trying to justify his orders which is retarded. There's suppressing your emotions, and being retarded. Adam reached Green Lantern Guardians level retarded.
It would probably be the best in the timeline to focus on.
Samus' image of/to the Federation is at an all time low. She knows they're in deep shit, and it's probably only a matter of time before they deem her to be an enemy.
That could be some good outlaw shit right there, especially since they already tried to kill her in Other M.
I'm not saying he should have let her go.
I'm saying he's retarded for not giving Samus why she shouldn't.
He just stood there, didn't say anything.
Then I guess he was shocked when she left? Also he shot Samus to stop her from stopping the new Metroids instead of just, I dunno, talking to her?
I remember in one of those "the last video game you played is now an anime" or whatever threads, somebody brought up Mario & Luigi, and how it'd be just wacky slapstick with little verbal comedy since the Mario Brothers don't talk in an intelligible way, it's their names and Italian-sounding gibberish.
So it'd be kind of like that, but instead of Looney Tunes, it's action sci-fi. Maybe an ancient alien or Samus herself narrates descriptions about the world and the job while Samus guns her way and explores various alien institutions.
Of course, some dialogue'll crop up, maybe in the form of a Chozo or other "precursor alien race" statue with a recorded message, or a survivor from a mission gone wrong or the last living remnant of a sapient race native to the planet Samus is exploring.
Sometimes Samus won't even be the focus of the episode. Maybe an episode about Federation troopers, like there was that one Samus fangirl in the Metroid Primes, doing cleanup after her exploits.
I'm imagining an episodic kind of series, like Golgo 13, but in space.
Apparently, she isn't an actual bounty hunter, just some roaming do-gooder who does it for free. Or something.
Someone who could do monsters and creatures ugly and terrifying.
That's what I always took away from the Metroid Universe. It isn't a big deal to Samus, but just imaging how awful the things she fights would seem to any sort of civilian.
The 'bounty hunter' thing came from the nippon dev team being unable to into engrish, she's meant to be a mercenary. It was never changed because mercenary comes with connotations they'd rather not attach to Samus.
>Samus is a merc
>Space Pirate unload space dosh to hire her
>Galactic Federation's fw
As an aside, I thought it was closer to like a Knight or something? Not so much a merc or a bounty hunter.
She essentially ends up being a knight, but technically her job was meant to me mercenary. And she only ever takes galfed contracts, on account of only really leaving them because she gets more done on her own.
Pretty sure she's chaotic good and therefore would never take pirate money. Also I don't think they'd want to hire her since she's blown up 2 of their planets, murdered thousands of them, killed their boss like 8 times, stole their technology, and fucked up their homeworld.
A Metroid anime would probably only be a few episodes, more like 4 or 5 OAVs instead of a series.
I'd be okay with that.
But yeah, her whole schtick would probably run thin without a big plot, and I don't know if it would fit with the style of Metroid very well to have a big plot.
Few episode with a higher budget works fine.
I was hoping they spent more time on her childhood/growing up/adjusting to Chozo DNA and the planet a bit more.
It was like 2 pages between her being brought to the planet, getting infused by Chozo DNA, then Training WITH the suit as a teen.
I kind of like it.
Leaving things ambiguous isn't always a bad thing.
Chozo were always one of the most interesting things about her life.
Probably because we know so little about them despite them being so important and impactful.
>one episode devoted solely to Science Team
So, if she's basically a knight, does that mean she has more in common with Saber?
I'd be down for loli Samus.
It's one of those weird things where things get real fuzzy and you can clearly see the lack of overarching writing.
Someone, presumably the person who wrote the manual back in the day, decided that Samus would be oprhaned by the Space Pirates and reared by the Chozo. Then someone wrote that the peace-loving nomads who had relinquished their seat in galactic affairs due to war fatigue, decided to train the little girl to be a warrior. For reasons. Then akjsldhuzlkas and the Chozo and Samus parted ways and Samus dsaijlkadslkjxch as an enlisted woman in the Galactic Federation forces. Although for some reason she kept her super special gear and her own spaceship, no idea why.
I think they trained her because they saw glimpses into the future that she'd be their legacy warrior woman after they all died. It's a bit of that paradox thing from OoT with the Song of Storms, but there you go.
Once her training with them was complete, she left to help the masses in the name of the Chozo. She thought the best way to do this was to join up with the Galactic Federation forces instead of going solo. She obviously changes her mind later.
Obscure as hell. They were previously only on Metroid Database. I don't even remember how I found them, but I disregarded their stupid "please don't rehost" policy because otherwise people would never read it. I can't find any information on the artists, either, so everything about it is obscure except maybe the magazine.
They raised her to be a warrior because she's supposed to uphold peace in the Galaxy.
Metroid also means Strongest Warrior in the Chozo Language, so Samus is a Metroid.
Until she races against Captain Falcon
That's what I don't get, when did she serve with the GFed? She gets trained by the Chozo and gets her bird DNA and the Power Suit, and then what? Serves the GFed? That seems pretty silly since they wouldn't let someone use unsanctioned Chozo equipment, they'd probably just confiscate it for study.
Honestly, before reading the Zero Mission manga or playing Other M, I never thought Samus for the type to join the GF because it'd be limiting and being a bounty hunter lets her do whatever she wants.
It's honestly what I hate most about her backstory. I think everything about that idea is completely retarded, and I think someone at Nintendo knew that because in Fusion the issue is skirted. Then when Sakamoto got full control, that's when it took center stage. Everything about the GF troopers in Sakamoto's version, about Adam in both his role and the actual character, and the function of the GF itself is so incredibly stupid that I wish it could all just be ignored forever.
It just makes no fucking sense.
Only good GFed is Prime 3. Admiral Dane was cool, and all the troopers on the ship were like "holy shit it's Samus".
When she was young and idealistic she was with the GFed. But once she realized that she could get more stuff done on her own without all the bureaucracy and red tape (as well as possibly endangering others lives) she starts working alone.
>since they wouldn't let someone use unsanctioned Chozo equipment
The Chozo still had some clout with the Federation at that point. Strings could have very easily been pulled. Not to mention how valuable of an asset she and the suit would have been. And there's no way of confiscating it, right? It's a part of her and all that jazz.
Sakamoto's insanely retarded, though. It doesn't just retcon all of the Prime games, it retcons everything. There isn't a single game that Other M doesn't contradict in some way.
That's what I mean by Sakamoto's version. In Prime, the Galactic Federation make sense for what they're supposed to be. All of the reverence towards Samus as the Hunter Clad in Metal is something that Retro came up with that isn't in Sakamoto's version. Which is why it's way cooler and morememorable.
>It's a part of her and all that jazz.
Man I wholly reject that absurd shit. It's so fucking retarded. I can deal with her putting on the suit and it integrating with her biology but it actually being part of her is retarded.
well in other M, the suit just manifests itself.
In other games, she is already in the suit and it was just all gameplay, very little story.
This is why I like Super Metroid and Prime 1 and 2. Gameplay, very little story line.
I prefer to think that Samus can be removed from the suit, but to remove the suit from Samus makes it useless. Considering the Chozo use magitech rather than regular tech it makes more sense that the suit is dependent upon her.
For that matter, it makes sense that the GFed troopers are in awe of Samus. She'd be borderline mythical to an average grunt, rather than somebody to be treated as an equal or even with contempt like in Other M.
Well now you're getting into the bowels of how stupid Sakamoto is, because they do remove it partially in Fusion.
Saying the Chozo has clout with the Federation also doesn't seem right because the Chozo would've abandoned meddling in galactic affairs before that or else they all fucked off and went full tribal a very short time after Samus joined up with the GF.
The point isn't about how the GF would remove it, it's how ridiculous the idea of someone bringing their own guns and ship to a uniformed professional army. Like, how does the super special snowflake Samus with her Chozo equipment fit into the hierarchy of command for the GF troopers? How does she get attached to a unit when she's got completely different training and equipment?
This is why the bounty hunter premise was established in the first place, because it allows for unique special snowflakes like that. Having her enlist is just bizarre. About as bizarre as having a henshin mahou shoujo power armor thing.
>Zero suit samus looks slim and traditionally beautiful
Am I the only one who dislikes this, both in anime/fanart and the original material? Am I the only one who prefers the more toned Super Metroid Samus?
I guess so, since they slimmed her down. They also made her shorter (from over 1.90m to about 1.60m).
She was looking pretty good in Zero Mission.
I could deal.
Retro did a great job "flavoring" the universe. All of the interesting parts of the GF and the Space Pirates came from Retro.
Sakamoto's obsessed with making the Galactic Federation, a governing body for the whole galaxy spanning thousands of civilizations, evil because Metroid experiments or something.
Metroid Prime was originally going to have a small voiced intro section. The voicework was done by Jennifer Hale. It's not bad, but I feel it's still too bland.
What Retro did was flesh out the Metroid universe into a full setting, previously it was something that we were told was there but never got to see. Then Sakamoto showed us his version and it was awful.
She's actually credited as the voice for Samus throughout the Prime trilogy, even though she did grunts and that game over screen.
I don't know if she'd do any anime voice work these days, the last and probably only time she did was in the Cowboy Bebop movie.
I assume that was a beta recording or something. But Hale did all the grunts for Samus in those games, so I'd be down for her.
Ideally minimalistic dialogue whenever possible, emotion is fine for Samus, I'm tired of the mute/robot.
I don't mind a little bit of definition but not that much.
I do how ever like tall Samus.
How about just FemShep?
Maybe not with the random bouts of Bioware-induced sluttiness, but a cool, confident person with some authority who can still crack a joke every now and again.
Instead of the cliche emotionally withdrawn monotone stoic, I'd like her as someone who is guarded but still well-adjusted. Like the kind of attitude you get from this picture: >>117707439
>read the manga
>think its shit
>Other M comes out
>heavily inspired by the manga
>it's somehow even worse
In all seriousness though the obligatory infantile handling of ptsd in the manga is pretty fucking awful.
I'd rather have Mary Elizabeth McGlynn. Samus seems like she'd be a lot like the Major.
But yeah, she'd be fine. Jennifer Hale fills the same kinds of roles, though. That Metroid Prime opening isn't the best, but she's usually really fucking good.
Reinjecting backstory that was already resolved into Other M is what makes it even worse.
In the manga the plot points are all resolved in the end with the exception of very little to do with Zero Missions retcons. They have to be for the manga to jive with 1,2 and Super because Manga Samus as a character doesn't fit with the games.
She should look like a raptor, svelte and toned. Built for speed not brawn.
Fucking Sakamoto man.
He probably hated that a foreign (non japanese) studio was beating his games. Decided to "control" Prime 3 a little bit and then later went on to do Other M. Went full dictator on it during production. i.e., it's my way or you will never get a job again in the gaming industry.
The interesting part:
The MP3 weapons, as well as the missiles, create definite limits to her suit's power output.
She requires external energy to fire dark/light/annihilator beams and the beam combos of these drain her massively, even when fully upgraded.
>first game to introduce the zero suit
are you sure? Wasn't there a metroid game before this which featured an entire segment in which Samus loses her suit and we get a good look at her zero suit ass in all its GBA graphical glory?
You know, I don't think any anime can really capture the sense of isolation and discovery of Metroid, or at least any serialized half-hour show. Definitely a movie or an ova series, but I'm not sure about serial episodes.
I'd actually imagined a miniature web-series or OVA like show, with a similar pacing to Samurai Jack.
-There is very few dialouge, mostly just Samus having some internal musings on her situations, exploring the planet and destroying creatures until she gets to a mid-point (probably a mid-boss or a power-up). Other than that, she rarely talks.
-Flashbacks to her origins, her Chozo training and her time with the GF can fill in the rest of the episodes and that is where most of the cast and dialogue can come in.
-The only time they don't show up is during the boss fights which take an entire episode, with the exception of Ridley who takes up to 3 and it shows how he killed Samus's parents. It shows Samus at her most emotive.
- Ridley would talk...sorta. He can "Talk" telepathically, though whether he has to be intereprited by Samus or he will have voice, I'm still not sure. If he does have a voice, it should be like Violator from the HBO Spawn cartoon.
>Just have the GFed get a task force of specially sanctioned Bounty Hunters or whatever, put her in a co-leader position and go on her way.
Hmm..I would only accept that if those characters where extremely expendable and they get picked off one by one in true Aliens fashion. Hell, why not make one of them the protag and have Samus as more like presence.
And fuck yeah to F-Zero tie-in. Add Star Fox in the mix, and you got the makings of a Nintendo Galaxy.
The whole half metroid thing doesn't make it any better for her either. Fuck, I rather that idea be saved for an actual game but if that's the only way to bring back Fusion....
Because of my bad experience with Metroid threads on /v/, I kinda avoided them in general so I didn't know that. I just know that anime based video games and MMO discussion on /a/ are generally better than on /v/, I didn't except the same for Metroid because it feels more like a western style game than Japan.
People who want to shitpost about video games congregate on /v/, not other boards. Same with anime/manga and /a/ - I'm sure you could sneak by the occasional anime/manga discussion on other boards without the flocks of people who come here to exclusively post about "best girls" or how you're favourite anime is shit. This allows the odd discussion to occur with people who are actually interested in the media (not to say you can't get that here or elsewhere with any board-specific topic, of course).
But I digress.
Know what I want?
I want someone with the biggest fucking balls to go work for Nintendo, and say 'I'm giving Samus a Boyfriend.'
Takes the hugest flak ever, everyone wants his head on a pike and then when the game comes out it's the greatest love story in video game history, the game is the greatest Metroid since Prime, maybe even better.
That's retarded and your reasons are retarded. If you want NG+ with a different character that's fine, but your way of justifying it is stupid and unnecessary. Playing as Sylux or Rundas would be cool though.
Muh headcanon is that she became the top bitch of the GFed when she enlisted and fucked the brains of anyone in a uniform.
I don't remember how I came up with that conclusion, but there you go.
It's more nuanced than that. Would I take some enjoyment from such a scenario? Sure. Would it be worth a likely awful Metroid game? I doubt it. Even if I was to drink their tears by the gallon and achieve pure ecstasy, would it still be some dude's agenda? Yes.
Yes, it was confirmed by Sakamoto. Personal feelings about him aside, anything he says is word of god for Fusion. Samus is back to normal but her suit is still fucked. That could be the premise of the next game, getting a new power suit or repairing the old one.
>not playing any F-Zero games
>not knowing about Captain Falcon
Has anyone seen the GP Legend anime actually?
Since Metroid 5 is never going to happen anyway, I think he can just be ignored. According to him, she materializes her suit from bird magic anyway. That part in Zero Mission that everyone with a brain interpreted as getting a new suit was Samus "reganing her concentration" according to Sakamoto.
That'd just diminish their roles.
It'll be shit for the same reason Other M was shit. It's completely inconsequential to how the game will play or to the overall theme and atmosphere of the series. Anotherp persons presence will not enhance the game and will likely only detract from the feeling of isolation and exploration that Metroid has always been about. There is no reason for what you're suggesting to exist, it's pointless.
No see that's a constant, like Death and Taxes. Femnazis always overreact to shit, look at all that shit that popped up from the AssCreed Unity reveal. You literally could not look up anything on any site without hearing 'IS UBISOFT SEXIST? ARE GAMES LITERALLY JUST SEXISM INCARNATE!?'
Female lead wouldn't have made Unity less shit though
I'm making a joke that there will never be another F-Zero game ever and the DLC track in MK8 is what you're stuck with
Well both of the suits she got she obtained on Zebes. Say she goes to another Chozo world (like Tallon IV) and gets one there, but since it's a different enclave of Chozo the suits a little different.
Also if I remember correctly, Other M did give her an implied love interest in the form of Adam's brother, which was another one of those bizarre and retarded choices that made everything more creepy than it needed to be.
Exactly - because it's typical, I can't enjoy just any feminazi insanity. It has to be a special kind of insanity.
And while we're misusing spoilers,
it's still your agenda, dude.
fucking stop this shit, that was never a good reason to play Metroid games.
>OH MAN YOU'RE ALL ALONE IN THIS FUCKED UP PLACE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
Mario 1 did that, Mushroom Kingdom was a fucked up place, and you were all alone there with Flying Turtle, Living Bullets, Going into pipes when you just saw a man eating plant go in.
Legend of Zelda had that too, Giant squids shooting rocks, Giant Spiders, and don't even get me started on the Redeads, literally monster that have terror screams that freeze you place.
Isolation was never a selling point because other games in did that
>Samus finds a nice guy
>Has a similar backstory to her, parents were killed by Space Pirates as a kid
>They both don't hit it off at first, but soon grow to respect each other
>After helping out each other on missions and tasks, the respect turns into something more
>Samus realizes she's in love, but doesn't know how to express it. First time she's ever felt like this
>He realizes he loves her too, plans to tell her that night
>During the day he has to travel to a foreign planet as part of his work, plans to meet Samus right after work in a few hours
>Hours turn into Days
>Days turn into Weeks
>He never comes back
The planet he was on was raided by the Space Pirates that same day. There were no survivors Leader of the raid was Ridley
Severe lack of tunes in this thread.
Someone posted those in a Metroid Thread on /v/ a while ago.
This was the only good post to come out of it.
>it's dangerous to go alone take this!
There's so many interactions with other characters in those games. Just because you leave those characters to go to spooky dungeons doesn't make it an isolationist game.
>the feeling of isolation and exploration that Metroid has always been about
I don't know how you got this impression. Whenever I play metroid I feel like Samus is a mythical warrior and doom incarnate.
Is it a good or bad thing that Samus is a Silent Protagonist?
She's basically a more fleshed out Link, but you're still journeying with her throughout missions, the Prime Trilogy shows this the best.
How do you handle that in a Metroid Anime, did people like the way Samus was handled in Prime 2's manga?
She doesn't need to be a silent protagonist, it's just that in most of the good games she has no one to talk to.
I personally don't care for Fusion, but she talks a lot in that game.
Samus is completely alone mostly because those are the situations which warrant her presence. Would you rather play 'Metroid: Babysit GF scientists on a trip to Hostile-World-319 and back again' or 'Caw Caw: Samus Has Her Day Off' or 'My Little Bounty Hunter Is Beating Everyone and Their Dog In Bounty Hunting With Her Superior Chozo Blood and Technology'. In Prime 2 she got some interaction with the Luminoth guy. In Prime 3 she was basically a cog in the GF warmachine, the very best of cogs.
You would probably need it to be presented from someone else's point of view, possibly a Galactic Federation grunt or officer, a Space Pirate officer or Ridley himself. It would then escalate as the Pirates become increasingly desperate and abandon many assets and optional objectives in order to complete their main mission, climaxing into a last stand and self destruct sequence after they've abandoned all primary objectives to make a desperate gamble against The Hunter. The epilogue would be the usual stragglers escaping and reassessing their priorities with Ridley being resuscitated as usual.
Samus's character will have to be shown through her actions. What does she do and how does she do it? We know she is determined, resourceful and unstoppable. Make her attack where it matters most. When the Pirates direct their attention to her and the odds are stacked against her, she doesn't fear or falter, despite the damage and system malfunctions she suffers.
Reminder that Super Metroid Samus is actually a happy-go-lucky and slightly airheaded young girl who enjoys relaxing in the sun and balls.
Science team is bumbling.
Combat team is a threat.
/co/had threads similar to this one. Sometimes some nice ideas come out of those things.
I vaguely remember one of those ideas being a SoL in bar or something with each episode a different guy who tells a story about his encounter with samus.
At the end of the series it turns out samus was in that same bar the whole time.
Such an idea might be able work.
Samus is the central character without the story being told from her point of view, so it works out very well with a character who's mostly a silent protagonist.
This is really the only way I can take the Pirates.
For as fun as Science Team is, they are still a threat, and come up with some truly terrifying monsters in their labs. Obviously they don't have a very good track record, but they come out on top enough by using the, 'throw science at the wall and see what sticks' approach.
I don't understand how Sakamoto had such a bad understanding of the Metroid Universe, yet he was the one who came up with it in the beginning.
Now that I type that out, I wonder how much input each of the creators had in the formation of Metroid. Most people just talk about Sakamoto, but what about Makoto Kano, Gunpei Yokoi, and Hiroji Kiyotake?
It's like George Lucas. Sakamoto comes up with a stupid idea, then Gunpei slaps him upside the head and the team takes some elements of that stupid idea and ignores all the stupid parts.
Although honestly, most of the setting stuff that people like comes from the Prime games.
A Metroid anime about actual bounty hunting is the only think that would work.
Where's my 3ds Metroid game already Nintendo.
Couple years out at the least.
I think Sakamoto said that they're in early pre-production of both a 2d and 3d Metroid game, so that's something to look forward to at the very least.
Only let him do a 2D game with minimum dialog.
Sakamoto didn't say that, thank fuck. The only news out of him is that he's off the franchise forever and back on Wario and Rhythm Heaven or whatever.
Shiggy's the one who said they've got something in the works.
All /v/ cares about these days is whether the Zero suit ruined Samus or not, and how much they should masturbate to it.
/v/ has the best Metroid threads when there's no talk about Other M and Zero Suit.
Don't need no night light when your eyes glow like this.
Japan is a shitty market for Metroid in general.
Because Samus really, REALLY loves balls.
Yea their tech progresses really fucking quick, in the time span of the prime series they fucking pushed phazon to its limits and made that shit standard issue in prime three when it was experimental in prime one
>Adam gets a 13 feet robot to fight inside of, he molests Samus like the little bitch Other M made her to be
>this is played completely straight
>every other human they meet is the demons or get killed as soon as they get likeable
>the end is that Ridley NTRs Adam with Samus as his mini/m/ is damaged
>he gets the gun, does an insane sprint dodging Ridley's fireballs and he BTFOs him
he explodes in a column of light like in Pyrosphere
>Adam and Samus have hot steamy bondage sex and he is about to perform cunnilingus with a twelve-hour beard
>BD sales with tighter Zero Suit, cameltoe and Adam's wrinkles: 42 million, Nintendo hires Sakamoto for the next Metroid
FPS & Metroid games aren't held as highly there. Here it's up there with Mario & Zelda but not there.
I admit I liked the additional hunters. I wonder what a Prime Hunters 2 would look like.
I miss playing Hunters
it was a fun if very flawed game
Bird Culture Samus is one of my favorite gags.
>I can't believe I'm reading a better Metroid discussion on /a/ than on /v/
Me too. This has been great quagmire of ideas and concepts. Let's add some more
>entire thread nearly devolves into shit because of one anon's shitposting
then suddenly>>117720223 >>117721118>>117725119
I thought I lost hope there for a minute.
I always wondered, since we know so little about Samus's normal life outside of her adventures and her past, how much of Samus's external personality is actually true and how much is just her poker face.
She comes off as a cool, calm, collected bad-ass bounty hunter but think about this
-She is human but lost her race in the raids
-Raised by the Chozo but lost them to poisoning
-her only human interaction in a long time was the GFed and that went south after Academy
-constantly alone, her only companions are the various creatures that are trying to kill her
-finally, the one thing she became close to was
Maybe the reason she is so alone is because Samus can't possibly relate to any social interaction outside of fighting and bounty hunting, that she isn't capable of being anything BUT badass, stoic, planet busting mutherfucker that everyone adores and anything civilian just weirds her out.
This. Years of isolation and social repression would make here into a godlike huntress but a weirdo to anyone intimate
>ywn dance for the love of Samus Aran
She interacted with the other humans/hunters in Prime 3 just fine.
I think Samus' biggest problem would be learning to shut down The Hunter outside of missions, and to just live. She'd probably burn herself out if she kept on being Samus Aran the Bounty Hunter 24/7.
She's probably not damaged and broken down. She's probably just incompatible with most civilian and human society because of her Chozo warrior culture upbringing and lifestyle
She just annoys everyone because all she ever talks about is balls and the weird shit she saw on her missions.
Could you imagine going on a date with a girl who constantly wants to play catch with you and spends all her time in bars at the binball machine or watching people play eight-ball?
Yeah, but what does she actually do there? Maybe she's just there on business. Collecting bounties and getting info.
She doesn't really seem like the type that goes out to drink for pleasure....maybe to drown out whatever fucked up shit she sees in her missions.
or the feels when there is no beautiful male who will dance the dance of love for her ;_;
that works fine
>She'd probably burn herself out if she kept on being Samus Aran the Bounty Hunter 24/7.
Maybe that is what those long hot cocoa sessions are for. I always thought her free time would be dedicated to improving her ship or training...or nesting.
Exactly. This is how I feel about Samus off mission: Yeah you could idolize her, admire her and even shoot the shit for a while. But you don't want to spend too much time with her until you realize it's too late that you're sticking your dick into crazy...or a metroid, which ever comes first.
>yfw when you wake up in the morning after crazy ball sex and Samus is feeding you worms like a loving mama bird
Captain Falcon or Mac, even though Snake would have good chemistry with her, things didn't work with Meryl. So why would that change for Samus?
That Samus artstyle always reminds me of Kate from Sketchbook
According to this, more people in Japan bought Super Mario World than they have all of the Metroid games combined. These come from vgchartz, so take it with a grain of salt, I suppose.
Eh, if someone wanted to have a relationship with Samus, be it friendship or romance, I doubt they'd care that much about her being Bird or Ball Crazy considering it's the future, space, and there are shitloads of Alien Races.
I'm sorry, I'd stick my dick in crazy if I could help her, pretty sure anyone would if they wanted to have a relationship with Samus
So what you're saying is that Samus is all over that xenocock.
Mac is too manlet and got no airgame
Snake is perfect but he gets cockblocked by FOXDIE
Ike has no sympathy for her. Robin is too busy fucking his best friend's daughter.
Falco would bug the fuck out on why this strange woman wants to make eggs with him. Fox would just go running back to Krystal like a bitch.
Falcon would step up, everyone thinks they're a perfect match
then he dumps her, becoming her NEW Adam
So in the end: SAMUSXGAME&WATCH. OTP
She thought joining GFed would let her do her "mythical Chozo warrior" thing a lot easier but it seems nobody was on her level and red tape is a bitch, so she bounced.
Still, out of all the forgettable canon fodder that goes through her life, she manages to have close relationships with based Anthony and Adam
enough that she kept craving that Military Superior cock throughout Other M and during Fusion. Should've went with black dude
It's been a while since I played, this is off the top of my head. In the past in her military squad, everyone would give a thumbs up/down on something as a form of voting. She'd often thumb the opposite of the rest of the squad. A certain section of the space station has the metroid breeding, storage and containment. She came there on her own to take care of it. Her superior officer shot her in the back, disabling her power suit when there were a number of Metroids stalking her. It was implied she was aware that he was there to shoot her. It turns out he shot her to protect her, and that he must go, solo with his inferior Federation technology, into the Metroid section of the space station in order to detach it and self destruct it. Samus was unable to stop him from walking to his unnecessary death because of the previous shot in her back. She could only meekly look through the glass airlock and give thumbs down while sobbing that her superior officer is going to a death which doesn't need to happen.
This is all portrayed as dramatic and touching.
>that doujinshi where Weavel is a crazy loli
It would be sweet if we got a Metroid game like Prime 2 was originally supposed to be.
>being trapped in a crazy ass ship
>the ship's AI has multiple personality disorder
>other Hunters present
The latter part I really liked in Prime 3, shame they all died along the way. But it would be neat to expand on some of the characters from Hunters. It bugs me that Prime 3 had Sylux's ship in the end but it lead to nothing.
>It's a space pirate trap, the kitten is actually a bomb
>Getting with Samus
>Falco here! Remember kids, when a human woman clad in metallic armor starts talking about building nests and shit, you know what do?
>Make love? Get Married?
>NO. Get the fuck out! Crazy bitch trying to groom my feathers, trying to hold me down with talk of eggs and shit. Fuck that!
>headcanon plans to introduce Samus through a Star Fox cartoon
>Star Fox and Samus cross paths during an escort mission that was secretly transporting Space Pirate tech
>Samus wrecks everyone, but an accidental SHINE and she winds up having to stay on the Great Fox to repair her armor and supplies.
>Hilarity ensues. She keeps messing with Slippy's equipment. Belittling the whole Andross thing. Keeps correcting Peppy's aeronautical terms. Eats all of Falco's worms. Treats everyone likes chumps.
tries to sleep with Falco
>Everyone tries to kick her out! But they find the Space Pirates, she steals an Arwing, she wrecks it, SF follows, they go kick pirate ass.
>Samus thanks everyone for their assistance in the most cold manner and hands them a big cred dump for their troubles. Slippy offers a lift to the nearest space port. Samus blows them off, but thanks them anyway.
>Samus learns a valuable lesson in friendship and camraderie. Thinks of Star Fox as her friends.
>Team Star Fox learns a valuable lesson: Stay the fuck away from Samus and Space Pirates. Falco is particularly terrified.
>A week later, The Metroid anime premieres.
>Hey Hunter, is your refrigerator running? Because if it is, it probably runs like you, with no parents.
>tfw no Ocarina of Time anime
And no, not based off the retarded manga.
>Ocarina of Time
>Not the much more adaptable WW and the sequels
>Not TP and the adventures of Midna and Link
Jaded cynic Hero who's seen and done and endured more than any mortal man ever should
I'm saying that his character would develop. To keep it simple: he would start out young and idealistic, then get worn down through OoT through the constant fighting. I always saw him as dissatisfied with the end where the master sword is placed back into the temple and time reversed, so after that (i.e. MM) he would be more jaded and weary.
probably because he knows that the cycle will forever continue and he will perpetually
be placed in the friendzone
I just want to see the episode where we found out the only time Link will have joy in his life is kart racing
but would it be the same, knowing he is destined to forever chase that cocktease Zelda.
All getting the Malons knocked up will do is just ensure that the next generation crave that new royal sweetness.
>Link got the royal pussy in after all the stuff of OoT and MM
Um...nope. In OoT, he got denied by time shenanigans. Then he was never seen from again in MM
or he was dead, depending on what theory you subscribe to
WW and SS probably. They where the smart Links. Dunno about LttP, still seems friendzoned.