Shirobako

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>>117366691

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>>117366751

When will she give up and start seeking the company of men to satisfy her self worth?

>>117366254
Being an animator sounds more fun.

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>>117366751
You should drink more alcohol, Ema. That'll cheer you up.

>>117366803

Ema's going to stab your balls.

>>117366843
>>117366751
>Why were your crying?
>Thingken of cats

>>117367219
>this guy makes more than ema

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>>117368035
>...
>What is it, Tarou-san?

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>Ah oh yeah that...my rent bill...
>Sure, same place and time, Tarou-san.

>>117367219
>this guy earns more than I do just to fuck up.

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>>117368035
>>117368624
He graduated university and got into the industry that's why. Life long career for him to move up the ladder.

Someday he'll be a manager of a department.

>>117366254
I would love to write anime for a living. Shit would be fun as hell.

>>117368788
I hope he gets reputation as being absolute joke of a manager, and gets so much shit on net that he will never dare to look at viewer feedback again.

>>117368929
Like the script writer?

>>117369054
You mean in the show? Isn't that the director in the very first episode?

>>117368929
nah he'll be managing a window sometime in the next ten years or so

>>117369093
He isn't directing shit now, he's a useless script writer until he finished the last episode.

>>117369054
>>117369093
Exactly like the director from his previous work with the Jiggly Tits show.

>>117369152
I wish I knew which people have done this kind of stuff.
For example, if anything happened to the director of Wizard Barristers.

>>117369200
After from THAT episode, he probably retired and became a full blown NEET hikki.

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>>117367948

>>117369716
>Failureatlife

Anon, Ema o ijime naide kudasai!

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>Good thing I put my two weeks in

Were there new character collages after episode 5?

>>117366254
She's pretty chill. Crime and Punishment makes itself an easy read.

>>117366254
tfw going to school for animation

I'm going to suffer for the rest of my life and create nothing I want to create once I get out of school!

>>117371896
wats an animation degree even get you in america. All there is is CG movies and a some hand drawn ones on tv

>>117371979
Work towards CG movies and hand-drawing TV. A lot of commercials involve animation too.

Learning 3D is more valuable for a job but 2D is good too. Just a shame that 3D has become all-encompassing as the technology gets better, since I'm a2D animator.

>>117369241
>THAT episode
Don't even mention it. Umetsu's reactions during those weeks would make for a pretty funny dark comedy show.

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>>117368788
You don't need a degree to be a production assistant. Aoi jumped straight in after high school, Midori is the only who went to uni.

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How do we help Ema become better?

>>117373179

Those are all really good.

>>117373179
She should practice her drawing when she's not working.

>>117373179
How goddamn meta did the animators have to feel drawing keyframes of keyframes?

>>117366751
PATH DEPENDENCE!

>>117372883
I guess she had connections

>>117373665
Probably about the same as seiyuus voicing seiyuus.

>>117372883
Whenever i see this picture i just want to smell her and i can't figure why.

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>>117374522
No, you just apply. No credentials are needed to be a PA.

I am an actual sound designer

>>117374811
I guess I just feel biased since it's not easy to do that in Obama Land. Always -something- is heavily required.

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You will never be that special occasion. ;_;

>>117375271
Well, Aoi is a cute girls, so there's that. How Tarou was employed is a mystery, though.

>>117375540
Aoi will never be real. You will never be 2d.

>>117375270
I have an interest in that. Degree? What kind of company?

>>117376265
this'll probably be disappointing, but I have an electronics engineering degree.

mobile video game dev company

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Is sea urchin such a big deal?

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>>117376326
What do you mean by disappointing?

>>117376989
because i don't have a degree 'dedicated' to sound design.

>>117366254
I think i´m gonna start watching this, any good subs, or should i watch raw?

>>117377024
I think it's fine. I'm gonna research that degree thanks

>>117377177
well, if you're gonna do sound design, you don't really need this kind of degree. it helps, though.

with this, you'll understand things like waveforms and filters and generally the audible frequency spectrum. the rest of the things in this degree are overkill for sound design unless you want to make hardware synthesizers from scratch.

>>117377088
Honestly, I have found HS to be perfectly acceptable.

>>117377294
I may focus on that because I never really created music before

>>117377487
Thanks, kind anon.

>>117377644
I am actually more of a music guy, too.

you can teach yourself music to some extent.

>>117377734
You mean instrument wise or creating it digitally?

>>117377987
digitally.

right now, I'm trying to learn how to play the piano and guitar though.

Prove your worth /a/.
Open paint and draw a cat as fast as you can!

>>117378022
I just wonder how long it would take to land a job for a studio, theater, private company etc as a sound designer. Even with a degree, I wonder how much they would judge your personal work from your portfolio.

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aoi is too cute

i can't handle it

>>117379075
>>117379075
to be honest, openings for sound designers are rare because once a studio gets one, they'll usually hold on to them for a long time (if they are in any way decent, which most studios aren't particularly picky about)

also yeah your portfolio will be pretty much everything. they will practically look at nothing else.

>>117379178
And then there's the sound engineer path. I also thought about a career in the medical field when it came to audio.

Internal intrigue soon.

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>>117379170
>tfw you'll never massage her shoulders after she had a long day at work
>tfw you'll never surprise her at work with a bag of donuts and make her day

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>>117379462
pls stop

I should've never taken architecture and took up all these interesting national projects and should've just flown to Nippon to work as a low wage in betweener in an obscure studio.

I always found drawing enjoyable and therapeutic anyway.

>>117379830
then change careers and draw

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>In the Audio Production program, you'll study audio recording, live sound reproduction, audio for video, and broadcast production. You'll record, mix, and produce audio in analog and digital formats while gaining an understanding of what it takes to succeed in the audio industry.
>Graduates are prepared to seek entry-level employment such as audio engineer, radio producer, assistant sound technician, promoter, or sound engineer.

Well I got a school near me. Still doing more research!

>>117366254
There should be more anime like shirobako. I actually kinda want to work now. I actually kinda want to do stuff now. I actually kinda have confidence now. What is this magic, am I too impressionable?

>>117380562
>tfw slowly buying your own equipment to put up your own home studio

>>117380592
Is it because you want to meet girls like Ema and starve to death with them?

>>117380664
Sounds like thousands of dollars. What do you plan to do with it? Freelance at home? Doing it at home as a hobby?

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>>117379462
You'll never cuddle and watch Exodus together while having a few cold ones and doughnuts. Aoi will never excitedly point out the parts she helped with. Ever.

>>117380562
Beginner electronic musician here, making electronic music is a great way to learn those skills. I suggest you pirate a copy of FL or Ableton and get started now if you feel like trying it out.

>>117380901
Please stop, you're bullying my mind.

>>117380849
both.

>>117381009
Thank you I will friend. I was just thinking about something like that.

>Q: What are my chances of getting a job when I graduate?
>A: The job placement rate for students who completed this program in 2012-2013 is *%.
>* This institution is not currently required to calculate a job placement rate for program completers.

Heh although I'd be content in landing a career like this period. It can't be worse than my $20 an hour job I have currently.

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>tfw education in my eastern-european country is absolute shit
>we "learning" what we already knew 2 years ago(from self-education and internet)
>we "learning" stuff that's not being used by any studio for years
>we "learning" anything and everything BUT the things I've enrolled there to learn
>we "learning" a bit of that, a bit of this, some part of that other thing, never learning to work properly in any field
>absolutely zero knowledge after wasting five years and a lotsa money
It's hell. Sometimes I want to kill myself in hopes of being reincarnated in a better country.

inb4 later episodes the college student graduates but can't seem to find a job

>>117376342
It's fucking good nigga. It's like if someone took your grape soda and said "Oh, it's ok if we share," you know?

>>117380901
That one segment looks weird, they must have fucked up there or something. It looks fine frame-by-frame, but it bothers me. Fucking Tarou.

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I heard Oogasawara likes her tea with milk every now and then.

>>117381009
Also you mean FL Studio 11 right?

>>117381553
yes. I think it's easy to get into.

>>117381238
Have some advice for when you're producing music:
>Composition comes first. Learn some theory.
>Ear fatigue is your greatest enemy. Take breaks.
>Don't download 50 different synths and be weak at all of them, pick a few powerful synths and learn them well
>Tutorials are helpful, but the first thing you do if you have a question is hit F1 and consult the manual
>Let me say this again, READ THE FUCKING MANUAL
>Mixing is not about how many complex techniques and fancy plugins you use, it's about ensuring that EVERY ELEMENT IN THE SONG CAN BE HEARD CLEARLY. No more, no less.
>Don't worry if your songs sound like crap at first, the important thing is to finish your songs, even if it's absolute dogshit. You wont get better without finishing what you start.
>Finally, this shit takes time to learn, just put the hours in and you will see improvement.

>>117381553
Yes, that's the latest version.

>>117381596
Than Ableton?

>>117381610
Wonderful advice that I'm archiving for later. So for school, will they care a lot of my music sucks but will be glad that I completed the project?

>>117381698
I haven't really tried any other DAW (Digital Audio Workstation, that's what they're called).

>>117381698
If you're trying to get into audio engineering, you should dedicate more time to your mixing than anything else. That doesn't mean you should disregard the other aspects of production though. Also Ableton is a great DAW as well, it's simply a matter of which workflow you like best. Reason, Logic and Renoise are also DAWs you should try. But in the end you should pick one and learn it inside and out.

>>117380901
>you will never life in a small japanese apartment with Aoi

>>117379830
You're in luck anon, half of the worlds' best and renowned architects are Japanese.

You can make that as a reason to study architecture in Japan while you make in betweening as a sideline.

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>>117381893
Oh neat and I'll keep that in mind. Do you guys have BAs in the field?

>>117382021
I'm a relatively beginner electronic musician. I have no BAs, this is just a hobby along with watching anime. Everything i know about audio engineering comes from mixing my own tracks.

I want to be a production assistant, seems pretty easy really as long as you're organised, just long hours . I've got my license so can go drifting while picking up frames and if I can take my table preloaded with anime into work I'm good to go.

>>117366254
I've learn to dislike animation. I rather do modeling/texturing/lighting. I wouldn't mind doing animation as personal work, but I wouldn't want to work for a studio doing it.

>>117379462
LITTLE DOES SHE KNOW THAT THE DONUT I GAVE HER
HAD FILLING MIXED WITH MY CUM

>>117382131
Ah okay. What do you plan to do for income with those skills?

>>117382219
Right now, I just want to make great music that people are willing to pay for and appreciate, but I may end up applying for an audio engineering job when I feel skilled enough to handle it.

>>117382021
I'm this guy.
>>117376326
I download all sorts of music in my free time.

>>117381698
I recommend just starting with Ableton, it's pretty easy to get into and it will take you a long way. Just get yourself a nice book or something like

http://www.amazon.com/Ableton-Live-Power-Comprehensive-Guide/dp/1285455401/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416814361&sr=8-1&keywords=ableton+live+9+book

and go through it to learn how everything works. I've actually been doing a lot more in Pro Tools these past few months but the learning curve is nasty. It is 100% required if you're going to be an audio professional though, but learn easier stuff first before working your way up to Pro Tools.

Ema is probably prescribed Prozac

>>117382733
She's not taking drugs yet

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Ema slaving just to make ends meet. Meanwhile at Midori's place.

>>117382619
Oh nice. Either if it was you or the other Anon, but I shall "read the fucking manual".
>>117382521
Ah okay. You think you'd be set if you had another degree?

Right now I'm trying to figure out which schools that have the course are bogus and fluff and which ones are legit. I wonder if I should go into the city and visit sound production studios/etc and ask their opinions about the schools and ones they went to.

>>117383056
I'm >>117382619, I actually have a degree from NYU in Entertainment Business. I don't have a job yet, but at the same time I haven't been applying super hard since I want to compose music myself. Lately I've been studying a lot of music theory/comp and trying to immerse myself in that.

One important thing to remember: TAKE AN ENTERTAINMENT LAW COURSE. Without a doubt that was the most important and useful thing I did at college. Learn to read contracts. Learn to analyze agreements and the key parts that make them tick. Learn to protect yourself, because you'll fucking need it.

Also, do an internship with a production studio. They don't expect you to know that much and you learn a lot, and they're always eager to have a free set of extra hands.

>>117383056
not really. I just love music so much I want to make my own.

maybe if I did take up music production I'd be better off, but I'm all right with having a technical degree and picking this career path.

>>117383140
>TAKE AN ENTERTAINMENT LAW COURSE
oh yeah, I definitely need to do this.

>>117383190
If you're looking to get into the music business, pick up "All You Need to Know About the Music Business" by Donald Passman. It's basically the industry bible, and it's really accessible. New versions come out often so it's up-to-date.

For film, a good book is "Dealmaking in the Film Industry." I hate Hollywood with a passion, and I wouldn't want to get involved with them beyond composing music for film, so I'm no expert though.

Long term I'd like to start my own business. I know it's a long shot, but I'd actually like to start a 2D animation company and lead an in-house sound design team. Then I'll hire people like Ema and pay them like decent humans. I'll also hire lots of interns

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Has anyone here read Crime & Punishment?

I am working as a writer for ad right now and I want to land myself a producer gig soon.

I am doing this for Oi-chan

>>117383140
Sounds like a great idea to have a course like that.
>>117383154
That kind of passion excites me.
>>117383319
What would a sound intern be? Exactly like her: >>117380562?

I want to make an anime that has spanish people as protagonist but we can't escape huecomexico stereotype

thank kubo