He introduced generic powers, the flames, into what used to be a very cool series that wasn't limited by them and then started throwing random shit at the wall. Like the pokemon stuff, and motorcycles.
Basically, the time travel stuff is what went really wrong. I think he also wanted to do a comedy, but ended up going into battle shonen instead. So... poor planning, I guess?
>>116932712 It was a decent slog when the author was introducing the characters. The transition into a battle shonen was great. But then it defaulted into a shitty battle shonen and took the concept of the entire story into "who's stronger" and "who feels more for thier companions" and that shitty slog that many shonens get into. By the end, the story did enough backflips that it fell on its head without much impact.
>>116932712 Things got too complicated after the boxes and Patronuses. The new characters got less and less interesting after Varia. The MC whined too much and never picked Haru for his waifu. Also this >>116935291 and this >>116935295.
The Mukuro Arc and the Ring Battle arc were great.
The beginning of the Future Arc was setting up to be interesting too, but then EVERYONE'S past selves got shot into the future, which sorta made the whole setting less interesting. Should have kept Tsuna there alone with all his Ten Years Old friends battling that one faggot.
I heard the ending was complete bullshit that made the series pointless.
>>116935291 when it should have juggled the two, it instead just went FULL BATTLE MANGA and had training arcs into another set of upgrades and became way to formulaic to even bother following after a certain point
As for Reborn, the best thing it had going for it was the oddball cast and humor. The Mukuro and Varia arcs did a good job of mixing that with some decent action/drama but it went to utter shit at the Future arc and turned into the most fucking generic shit ever. Flames and the weapons were cool at first but then every fight turned into
>>116932712 >>116938892 the filler arc was more interesting then then the future. We go to learn about the arcobalenos and the vongola I family. Unlike Fillers like Naruto, Reborn had some pretty good ones. All though the over reliance on the x-burner was getting old. the manga wasn't that great. it was just an average shonen. But I enjoyed it non the less
>>116938056 Thanks for the tip anon, dropped this series a while back and I actually decided to read the last chapter. Holy crap I totally dodged a bullet, pun intended, not sticking through this crap. I cannot b believe that end. It was as unfulfilling as Ranma 1/2 except I read all of Ranma like a retard because literally nothing changed either
>>116932712 If it stopped after te ring conflict it would be a great anime. Future arc onwards you could see that the mangaka ran out of ideas and graps at straws to do anything to make it even longer. For example let's put some motorcycles in it because by god it's not like everyone can fly.
I didn't mind the comdedy parts at the beginning as soon as new characters like Gokudera joined because let's face it Tsua was freakin annyoing. He was like a light version of Shinji but with the exception that we should think he is a good leader
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