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When will we get a Digimon-only anime about the Royal Knights?

Imagine.

A lonely Dorumon who suffers constant abuse and exile from those around him until the faithful day he meets an energetic V-mon.

V-mon drags our unlikely and unwilling hero into his crusade for ever-lasting peace!
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Hikari is always the best girl.
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This movie was so fucking good.
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>>111908234
I will give you second best in the context of the Adventure timeline only.

If we were going in the whole franchise, that would be difficult

She's definitely the best 02 girl
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>>111908182
>Digimon-only anime
Because that worked out so well the last time
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>>111908265
Omegamon's job is to, well, job.
Our War Game is the only good moment he'll ever get.
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May drawfag only for Digimon and human characters. If I like your request, I may draw something real quick.
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>>111908430
Dorumon and Guilmon looking at each other as if through a mirror, if you want
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>>111908430
Kari asking gatomon whether digimon have genders or not
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>>111908430
Armless Omnimon pouting.
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>>111908430
Would you kindly draw a Dorumon and V-mon roasting marshmallows over an open fire?

V-mon is bragging about himself as Dorumon just rolls his eyes.
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>>111908430
Agumon and Shoutmon brofisting
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>>111908235
My fucking nigga. I can't count the amount of times I've watched this damn movie. Goosebumps every time.
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>>111908494
>>111908536
>>111908567

I like all of these. One moment.

Pic related. I draw like that. Maildramon and Aegisdramon are so underrated.
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>>111908595
I rewatched it for the first time in like 8 or something years. My god, everything about it is perfect. It truly is Hosada's finest work
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>>111908676
I love that style.
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Does anybody have that picture of all the green Digivice kids? It has Mimi holding the Numemon's poop and looking pissed
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>>111908518
She's right.

Taichi's pretty inconsiderate of others at the start, though he gets a bit better.
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>watched Tamers when I was a kid
>it channel hopped right when the D Reaper came to the real world
>decide to watch it again and complete it this time.
>Jap opening has all the stages of the main Digimon evolution paths and shows Beelzebumon.
Seems kinda odd. Figured they would want to keep the later forms a surprise.
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>>111908676
Woo thanks
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>>111908690
I love that moment where Tai and Koromon/Greymon understand eachother
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>>111908845
Japanese kids shows keeping spoilers away?

Ha! That won't get kids enough hype for toys

Look at this. It spoils like the entire first half of 02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sfGCSftZJQ
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>>111908765
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>>111908845
We only get black silhouettes in the openings until the actual reveals.
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>>111909007
Yes, that's it. Perfect
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Is 02 as shit subbed as it is in dub?
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>>111909142
It's alright. Not the best Digimon but still fun to watch.
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>>111908430
Pumpkinmon and Gotsumon meeting Adventure 02 Yamato and Takeru at Shibuya's scramble crossing.
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>>111909142
Daisuke comes off as slightly less of a retard but the writing isn't massively better so however you felt for 02 with the dub it probably won't change except you'll get some better voices and god-tier OST.

I'd still watch it though
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Was Andromon based after Robocop? Seems like a direct homage since after it's release.
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Grandracmon owning 7 demon lords when?
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>>111909007
>>111909105
The pixiv artist does a lot of good digimon fanart.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=1364988
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>>111909007
O god Mimi with the poop made me laugh more then it should have
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>>111909433
I'm throwing money at my screen but nothing is happening.
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GUYS WE'RE OUT OF THE 30Ks!

http://digimon-adventure.net/

Just a bit more. Don't forget your nade-nade
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>>111909163
>>111909277
>deviantart
>tumblr
>no one is saying anything
God damn /a/ has fallen.
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>>111909433
>9,999.999¥
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>>111909599
Who cares, sometimes those sources show from google as the first results. And right now the digimon threads seem separate from most of /a/. You really shouldn't judge the picture by it's source anyway.
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>>111909599
Well I can't really blame them since digimon art is so scarce nowadays.
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>>111909772
>>9,999.999¥
Are you fucking serious?

>>111909815
>And right now the digimon threads seem separate from most of /a/.
Don't be retarded
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Is Wada Koji ded?
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Are any other of the Digimon movies besides Our War Game worth watching?
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>>111908548
>>111908548
This overrides everything.
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>>111909596
thanks, nade-nade anon
without you i would forget every day
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>>111909979
He sang at the 15th anniversary

>>111910044
Hurricane Touchdown and Revenge of Diaboromon is pretty good. So is Runaway Locomon. Rest are just meh
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>>111909330
been out of the loop who is this?
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>>111909979
wtf no
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>>111910139
runaway locomon was meh
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>>111910102
That's really good man

>>111909979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1YJdf3bZZg
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>>111908430
Epilogue Yoshino arresting a criminal.
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What exactly is the benefit to this here?
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>>111910044
Digimon Adventure movie
Diablomon Strikes Back
X-Evolution
The Island of the Lost Digimon(or something like that)
Ultimate Power Activated

Everything else is shit on top of being non-canon, and their only saving grace is animation, and in some cases, not even that (Battle of Adventurers, for example).
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>>111908182
Which is the best digimon game in /a/s eyes?

World 1 has gotten old and a game where the devi series doesn't suck would be appreciated.

>>111908182
Hopefully never, the royal knights are lame as shit.

>tfw you'll never get a digimon anime centered around TACTICAL combat and resource management.
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>>111908308
> Look at dat ass
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>>111910609
>>tfw you'll never get a digimon anime centered around TACTICAL combat and resource management.
The only faction that can apply this is the D-Brigade and:
1. They're the bad guys.
2. They're seemingly dumb as shit.
3. Their arch-nemesis are the bancho, you're gonna end up rooting for them.
4. It's just 4 fucking digimon, and one of them is unique, even.
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>>111910609
That's why I recommended an anime that centers exactly around them.

Not around some bunch of kids fighting them.
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=43579686

Try not to cry.
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>>111910514
Probably none. I'm guessing it's going to be a pig disgusting upscale.
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>>111908430
Ruki dressing very girly and being kinda embarrassed about it.
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>>111908308
>Beats out Miyako
Wow, such a challenge.
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Lucemon best boy.
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>>111910609
>Which is the best digimon game in /a/s eyes?
Rumble Arena

>tfw you'll never get a digimon anime centered around TACTICAL combat and resource management.
You mean like a video game?

That's what the video games are for. The shows are about adventure and stuff.
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>>111908690
I found this movie overrated as fuck.
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>>111910711
I think I put too much emphasis on the TACTICAL part.
I meant an anime where the tamers need to think their way through battles rather than just volleying shit until it dies with the occasional execution sequence.
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>>111910877
Rumble Arena was the fucking shit.
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>>111910888
You still need to watch it before Adventure though.
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>>111910771
I feel like I should put this into one big image
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>>111910843
His theme from the OST is awesome.
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>>111910888
I bet you think Tamers is the greatest one ever.
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>>111910888
I don't understand how.

Only 20 minutes long while conveying the sense of wonder of meeting Digimon, the effect they have on people and visceral combat which we like never get all with stunning animation. It's anything but overrated.
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>>111910843
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>>111910973
Well, honestly, what's wrong with that. I'm pretty hardcore Digifag but even I would agree that the best seasons would be between either Adventure and Tamers and I don't even dislike the other seasons at all (except for THAT one). It's just common to think that those two are the strongest
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>>111908995
That would be because it's the second version of the OP
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>>111911033
You have to pick one, anon.
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>>111910933
Whatever. I just found this "boy and his magical animal" plot generic.
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OFFICIAL CANON DIGIMON POWER RANKING:
1. Chaosdramon
2. ZeedMilleniumon
3. Moon=Milleniumon
4. Mugendramon
POWER GAP
5. Who the fuck cares
POWER GAP
6. You're favourite digimon.
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>>111911132
>Alphamon still being the only one who can stop any of them for some reason.
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This is cool as hell. I am recalling the plot and everything that happens in every episode five minutes in.
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>>111908494
Look at those kawaii fucks. They're going to race because Guilmon doesn't stand still. Guilmon's got bread to eat and places to be.
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>>111911221
Yessss thank you
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Remember the time Yami became a tamer?
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>>111910226
>that god-tier animation
>more than 10 years old
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>>111910102
Moe as hell.
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>>111911132
How the fuck is Mugendramon that high?
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>>111910973
Yes I think.
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How strong are Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon on the powercharts? I heard Omnimon was only mid tier
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>>111911132
Shouldn't Alphamon be there? Definitely above Mugendramon

>>111911082
Yeah, I posted the wrong one but the first version has spoilers too
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>>111911344
Let me explain:
>it is the Digital World's strongest Digimon

And in case you ask about Chaosdramon:
>Adding enhancements to further improve that Mugendramon made it Chaosdramon. >Its Body, which is made of "Red Digizoid" that was repurified from the virtual super-metal Chrome Digizoid and increased just its hardness, deflects every attack, and destroys everything.

So, what happens when you enhance the strongest? You get the strongester
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>>111911389
Honestly kinda low

>>111911211
>I am recalling the plot and everything that happens in every episode five minutes in.
What are we talking about here?
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>>111908845
I think that's for the DVD release.
In the series, I remember their perfect and ultimate stages were shadowed out.
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>>111911132
>4. Mugendramon
>6. You're favourite digimon.

Jokes on you. My favorite Digimon is Mugendramon and has been for years (ever since I got a foil card game card, to be exact.)
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>terriermom will never tell you to relax
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>>111911546
>terriermon will never ask if you even lift
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>>111911282
And we're finally getting HD remasters for it too.
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>>111908536
Answer not included.
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>>111911427
Not hard to be the strongest... when you're the only Mega and it's 1999. When that profile was written.
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Destromon and Ragnamon in anime when
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>>111911856
Updating the profile would have taken very little effort.
If after 15 years, they still didn't, it's obvious that it's still the strongest.
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>>111909047
>>111911502
They become un-shadowed halfway through when they go to the digital world, still before they're actually revealed in the show
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>>111911856
Remember when Metalgreymon was virus only and was top tier?
>>111911958
>implying they care
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>>111910989
> Only 20 minutes long while conveying the sense of wonder of meeting Digimon, the effect they have on people and visceral combat which we like never get all with stunning animation

This is why it's overrated.
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>>111912010
Remember when evolving your MetalGreymon to WarGreymon was a terrible fucking idea?
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>>111910797
;_;
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>>111912062
really? I didn't understand the cardgame I just collected.
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>>111911389
They're pretty average Ultimate Levels. Nothing special in the larger Digimon lore. The Royal Knight Omegamon is stronger compared to the Adventure or V-Tamer Omegamons but there are a number of Digimon that are even stronger.
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>>111912164
oh well at least they can trash Perfects. Does Wargreymon have Dramon Destroyers for real or was that just a show thing?
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>>111910973
Tamers is objectively the best Digimon series.
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>look up Gundramon
>evolves from: any machine
>also a member of the crack team
>heavily hinted to be a Mugendramon variant

And that design, it's so stupid it goes right back to being good.
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>>111911528
>>111911439
>>111911387
This is WWII plane pin-up tier here.
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Post Digimon's ass and tits.
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*dramon a SHIT


A SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIt
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>>111911132
>>111911427
>Chaosdramon.
>Strong
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>>111910245
Unless you're a rukifag
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>>111912218
It's in its profiles and the games.
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>>111912366
>manga
>canon
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>>111912374
Everything with Ruki is good.
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>>111912406
How's that not canon? Digimon don't have a single continuity.
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>>111912524
Yep. Just shitposting.
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>>111912366
>manga
>canon
Official profiles or bust
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>>111911132
>trade a pack of pokemon cards for your cousin's pack of digimon cards
>tfw years later you realize you've had a Chaosdramon all this time.
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>>111910226
> Diaboromon Returns

I didn't even knew that this movie existed until a few days ago.
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Ruki smile is the best smile.
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>>111912821
>mfw I will never have an Angewomon partner to only breed with.
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>>111912859
But normal Ruki is cute as well.
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>>111908588
I like your style, Anon.
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>>111912698
>>111912146
>tfw you collected the cards but no one else did so you never got too play the game

Has somebody knocked up an online client like they did with yugioh and dueling network yet?
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>>111910843
unless she's in germany
like seraphimon and cherubimon
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>>111913021
I'm still waiting:

>>111910797
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>>111908182
Why do we have to watch all the Royal Knights?
Why can't I get a show about a dozen Dukemon roaming the countryside and being gallant?
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>>111913021
>>111908567
I guess not?
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>>111913088
>file name

>>111913216
patience, anon
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> JP starring at Zoe ass the entire time
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>>111912899
could a human and a digimon breed?
the interest is there from both parties, and arukenimon/mummymon were half human
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>>111913043
All I have is that one pack. I like collecting tcg for everything (Not sports crap though).

I wish, I wanna learn to play as well.
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>>111913351
Not what I expected but ok, I guess.
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>>111913351
> why that

Cuz it's cute

:3
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>>111911807
thanks
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>>111912374
Yuuhi no Yakusoku is the most beautiful song to come out of digimon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzwhAAODN5g

Moon Fighters also really good, fuckin based Fumiko Orikasa (who also voiced Rukia from Bleach if anybody didn't know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIRXuaq034I

I like how Ruki and Renamon's character songs are basically them singing about each other
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>>111913392
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>>111909330
omg this is thje fcker who corrupt the demon lords?? right?? new villain??
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>>111913723
What's Mike Kowalski doing in Digimon?
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>>111911682
>Terriermon will never intentionally put himself in dangerous situations so he can evolve and shoot humans
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>>111913815

No. He's just some guy who has the same habit as Beelzebumon of being by himself.
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>>111911132
>No Lucemon Shadowlord Mode
>No Arkadamon SuperUltimate
>No Ogudamon

Shit list/10
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Same artist as OP's pic, but I touched it up in Photoshop
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>>111913421
I remember having Lilymon and I think Piximon but its been almost 15 years
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>>111910797
Flicker, flicker, flicker… Flash!
Flash!
Ruki’s eyes were squinted as she underwent the constant barrage of flashing lights. Today, through Rumiko’s introduction, she was enduring a gravure photo shoot that was aimed at young women.
Juri: Ruki-chaaan, try smiling! Not every girl gets to be in a photo shoot, so we should look pretty for our pictures woof!
Contrasting with Ruki’s scowl, Juri was in high spirits. Although she wore a dress similar to Ruki’s, she did not let go of her usual hand puppet in her right hand.
Ruki: …I don’t care if I’m not pretty!
Ruki mumbled, keeping her eyes downcast as she said this. Maybe the reason why Ruki’s face was red was because she, too, didn’t really hate being in a photo shoot that much.
As if realizing Ruki’s mental state, Renamon nodded in a way that conveyed deep emotion.
Renamon: Ruki… you’re very pretty.
Ruki blushed even harder at Renamon’s words.
Ruki: W–What are you talking about?! Are you stupid?! I’m going home!!
Juri: Ooh! They still haven’t taken good pictures of us yet! Hang in there just a little more, okay?
Forcibly, Juri held Ruki back as she attempted to leave. It was at this time that Impmon arrived at the photo shoot studio.
Impmon: Yo, guys, what are you doing? Let me join, it’ll be an honor to you!
As Impmon said this, he ran in circles around the cameramen. At this rate, he’ll make a mess of the entire photo shoot.
Sensing this, Renamon instantly unleashed her special attack.
Renamon: I won’t let anyone get in the way of disturbing Ruki in her finest clothes! Koyousetsu!!
Impmon: W–What did I do wrong?!
Impmon was blown away, along with the photo shoot equipment.
Around this time, Culumon, clad in a dress and hat that had been put on him, was squirming at Ruki’s feet.
Culumon: Culumon can’t see in front of him, culu~
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>>111913216
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>>111914058
Thank you, based Anon.

You are the hero we need, but do not deserve.
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>>111913849
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>>111914289
We know Seraphimon is too asexual to even think about romane.
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Why does no one ever mention Frontier?
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>>111914051
Awesome.

I love you.
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>>111914359
It gets mentioned lots, but mostly to discuss why people don't like it

I think Savers is the least talked about season
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>>111914386
I'd do the same.

Hikari ain't no Mimi.
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>>111914051
> woof

I forgot that Juri did this all the time.
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How's digimon world 2? I love turn based combat
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>>111914386
What's angewomon's height?
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>>111914359
Because Digimon fans are stupid.
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>>111914386
>be Takeru
>be so in love with girl they made it your fucking image song (Yep, apparently it's important enough to be considered a fundamental part of your character! No other character gets this treatment!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASMV31uoKF4
>audience doesn't give a shit because they self-insert as Taichi, not you
>Taichi automatically gets Hikari because blood relation
>your own family is broken
>your own big brother likes Taichi more than you
>your surrogate big brother Taichi likes some other kid that looks like him more than you
>well, look on the bright side: your character is so forgotten and ignored that you might as well not exist, meaning that everything will soon be over...
>oh wait, they're making a sequel so now you can continue to suffer in the background while the audience continues to not care
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>>111914567
Then it took a dark turn
>>111914601
5'10 Japs are just that short
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>>111914359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eOJsm9ubGk

It had the only good English OP.
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>>111914051
> Renamon: Ruki... you're very pretty.

Is this the real translation?
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>>111910167
Grandracmon, a really OP demon digimon who not even the Seven Demon Lords can touch. Not much is know about him, but he might or might not be responsible for the Dark Area in the digital world. At least it is true that he has a castle in there and is a very ancient digimon.
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>>111914567
>woof
You mean 'wan'. That's the noise that dogs make.
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>>111914663
;_;
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What does /a/ think of digimon gijinkas?

>>111914107
You're welcome, Anon.
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Whats the powerlevel of those original ancient digimon like Ancientgreymon?
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>>111914359
has best girl and tastiest slut
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>>111914601
It depends.

>you'll never ride on your waifu's shoulder
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>>111914663
>5'10 Japs are just that short
Isn't that supposed to be tall as fuck for a japanese woman? I don't do feet/inches
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>>111914626
Am I the only one who didn't like Takeru at all?

I mean shit. They tried so hard to overhype him and that got him nowhere in the end.
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>>111914943
Holy shit!
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>>111908430
Juri being raped by tentacles.
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>>111914984
Same here.
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>>111914943
Always bothered me that TK stayed champion when they paried up for angel stuff
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>>111914674
Not sure. Got it from http://nonsolodigimon.forumcommunity.net/?t=52685675

>>111914051
http://nonsolodigimon.forumcommunity.net/?t=52685128

Once they had everything ready, all of them settled down to an amiable lunch!!
Takato and the other boys ate quickly and finished in a flash, while Ruki and Renamon chewed theirs unhurriedly.
“Renamon, want to try this?”
“O–Okay… What is it?”
“It’s deep-fried chicken gizzards. Here.”
Crunch, crunch, swallow.
“…You’ve sure brought a lot, Ruki.”
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>>111915104
Magnangemon is just too op
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>>111915104
Not only was he the most hyped, but the stupidest.
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>>111915104
His evos are one level stronger to compensate for patamon's shittyness
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>>111913421
>>111914008
I had a foil gatomon and a myotismon.

>>111908430
Rika getting fucked with ice devimons frozen dick.
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>>111915266
>Takeru is still shitty character and was outshined by Daisuke who was bad, but not as poorly rewritten.
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>>111914984
>They tried so hard to overhype him and that got him nowhere in the end.
The whole point is that they didn't hype him but shut him off into the background to make sure no one cared about him.

Personally I've always had a soft spot for characters like Koushiro or Jou or Iori or Takeru that are "supposed to be background." The "obvious heroes" are, well, usually too "obvious."
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>>111915266
>be playing Digimon World DS
>get Tokomon
>hype as fuck
>digivolves to Patamon
>attack actually goes down
Patamon more like Shitmon.
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>>111914984
cause he's not the hero/protagonist
no one can't be strongest than the leader/protagonist
except for Matt, he can be equally strong than Tai just because
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>>111915178
Too bad Seraphimon is a shit tier mega that always get trashed every time he appeared.
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He will be a wife-beater in the future.
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>>111915018
>>111915289
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>>111915422
The fuck are you on about? He's "supposed" to be powerful and ends up getting trashed to show off the strength of the opponent, i.e. he's a jobber like Omegamon.
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>>111914792
I like them and knowing this franchise they could be actual digimon
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>>111914792
They're okay if done right. Xros did a great job with it.
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>>111915422
Isn't he supposed to be powerful? or is he average-tier like Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon
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>>111915486
Omegamon doesn't job that often.

He's only jobbed like twice.

Now, Seraphimon even jobbed in Digimon World 4.
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>>111915532
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>>111915552
He's like Omegamon. He's "strong," but is sacrificed to show off how powerful the opponent is.
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>>111915454
how about Takato slashing a pokemon card in his d-arc?
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>>111915598
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Yeah but can he beat Elitemon?

For those who don't know, Elitemon it the best digimon in Digimon World Dawn/Dusk. He is the most rare digimon to find and is the most powerful. He is almost unbeatable and has no weakness'. He has one fatal move witch destroys one opponent even if they have full health.
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>>111915527
I too, have drawn a Megidramon gijinka.

>>111915531
I liked that aspect a lot.
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>>111915648
In case anyone was wondering what they looked like from an outside perspective
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>>111915648
And that's where all the budget went towards.

Now if only there was more porn of Sakuyamon, I'd be happy.
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>>111915531
>filename
Man, that must have been really hard to conceive
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>>111915648
I forgot they showed Ruki's loli nipples a lot in this show
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>>111915104

The problem is that they wrote his evolution line to be so powerful that it would instantly end most conflicts. It's the same reason why they wait to evolve to forms past adult/champion at the beginning of the fight
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>>111915688
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>>111915532
>>111915598
>>111915648
Why are they naked when they fuse again?
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>>111915675
That looks like MadLeomon to me
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>>111915815
The better question is why aren't YOU naked?
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http://joneshenry03.livejournal.com/1756.html?thread=14556

Look at this retarded complaning about MUH EQUALITY in Digimon

> The directos sacrifices too much of Juri, Takatos girlfriend, for the sake of glorifying Takato.

> Folks, why dont we see Takato or any of the other charecters abused like this? Takato is nowehere near close to the PUNK that Daisuke is, that's true! Hower, theres still a moral question here;why does only the girl get to suffer? Sure, Takato does get beaten pretty bad but...abused by tentacles?

> Look, perv director! Im pretty sure you enjoy seeing Juri squierm, as do a lot of you oh so pervy Japs in the audience. Hower, you people probobly have never heared about "equality" now have you? True, Takato does get shaken a little around by the D-reaper but...well, it would have been fun for the D-reaper to grab Takato with her giant tentacles just for a little while in the final episode. Just before she gets dragged into the wormwhole. Maybe just 10...30 seconds. Just so Takato would feel even a small part of Juris pain. I mean, isn't that fair? Juri for the most part saves herself anyway, by overcoming BOTH the death of her mother AND Leomon!

> So Takato, our brave hero in shining armour? How about just a little squirming in a sea of tentacles? Just for the sake of "equality" Just to let you feel weak and helplesness to understand what it feels like, when the "whole world" turns against you? But no...this would ruin our pretty boys image as the "knight in shining armour"
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>>111915815
Because it's a representation of their SOUL
It's why Frontier did it for every single digivolution in the show!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkoMVAOL_uI
>>111915817
That's cause it is
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>>111915531
>Elizabeth2003
>an 11 year old girl draws better than you
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>>111915867
That is the most cancerous thing I've ever read.
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>>111914984
>They tried so hard to overhype him

They did the absolute opposite. He's generally completely in the background, as is everyone else besides Daisuke, Ken and sometimes Iori. The few times he does get any kind of spotlight, he does something cool unless it's one of those times where he needs to suggest a sensible course of action so that Daisuke can demand a risky suicidal one in direct opposition to the point of Taichi's character, and eventually be proven right because he's got a giant plot-armor.

02 presents Takeru as a chill guy who's well above giving a fuck about Daisuke's petty jealousy and generally seems to have the right mind about things. The frustrating part is that he's always completely sidelined in increasingly fucking retarded ways (FUCKING SKULLSATAMON) so that Daisuke "Let's never retreat under any circumstance, the writers will dump a powerup on my ass if we need it" Motomiya can be the nominal leader.
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>>111915855
What if I am?
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>>111915867
>Juri
>Takato's girlfriend
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>>111915740
No they didn't

She is the only one without nipples

Her groin is also blocked during the evolution, while Takato and Lee groins are exposed

> tfw you will never see Ruki's crotch
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>>111915916
Reminder that everyone saw Koichi's penis in Frontier when he was kill.
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>>111915867
Sounds like a shotacon that's just mad they didn't get to see Takato being violated with tentacles
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>>111915867
> Folks, why dont we see Takato or any of the other charecters abused like this? Takato is nowehere near close to the PUNK that Daisuke is, that's true! Hower, theres still a moral question here;why does only the girl get to suffer?

"The girl"

He forgot about Ruki, of course.
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>>111908182
where can I download ryuu rogue subs for digimon adventure? I found a torrent on bakabt but I cant connect to peers and I checked their official website and it isn't there either

please, I really want to watching season 1, I watched literally every other season except for 1 ;_;
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>>111915532
You can see his dick at 0:05

lol
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>>111915310
>Takeru is still shitty character and was outshined by Daisuke who was bad, but not as poorly rewritten.

It sounds like you've got some insane butthurt obsession with the character.

This is total nonsense. Takeru's character just has the same problem as every other character in 02 that's not Daisuke, Ken or Iori: the writers do fucking nothing with them.

Nobody in the show is worse written than Daisuke. Nobody. Not even Miyako. She may be a total non-entity, but at the very least she does not directly contradict every character point her predecessors were meant to make.
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>>111915454
Whatever, I can use my imagination
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>>111916112
I found episodes 1-26 but I can't find the rest
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>>111916095
But she got tentacle time in the locomon movie, right? And the Icedevimon episode had some rapey vibes to it
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>>111915985
This. Despite Iori being the designated Koushiro/Jou of the new kids, Takeru also cuts into the "only sane straight man" role a fair bit.

I also like to think that he's something of a partial forerunner to Jianliang.
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>>111916112
Download this: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=583411

Subs here:
Adventure movie: http://subs.com.ru/page.php?id=24966
Adventure: http://subs.com.ru/page.php?id=23415
Our War Game: http://subs.com.ru/page.php?id=24967
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>>111916112
>>111916212


thepiratebay dot se/torrent/9123860/Digimon_adventure_JAPANESE_AUDIO_English_subs

This is the only ryuu rogue one I know of
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>>111916233
She didn't got abused like Juri.
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>>111911132
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>>111916250
>>111916266

Thank you both so much.
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Leaked pics of 03 Hikari
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>>111916018
stop at :30
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>>111916345
Alphamon is the Hero we need but do not deserve.
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>>111916345
Well done anon, this is actually accurate
Is this ever going to be finished?
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>>111910102
colored for drawfag just because.
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>>111915867
Why did Takato shows his dick but Ruki doesn't shows her pussy during the merging evolution?

There's a moral question here.
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>>111915552
Depending on what universe, Seraphimon is one of the rulers of the Digitial world. Demon was apparently a Seraphimon. Holyangemon is probably as strong as Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon, but he's also super effective against evil.
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>>111916367
you think you're clever aren't you
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>>111916467
Sorry, but I don't think I can fit another tier onto the picture.

Especially since the next tier would have a lot of Digimon.
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>>111916407
Nice.

But I still can't see her croch!

Yes I'm angry.
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>>111916475
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>>111916566
Use small portraits. Also high tier is missing a fuckton of members
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>>111914626
TK a shit. Deal with it.
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>>111916233
> And the Icedevimon episode had some rapey vibes to it

Tell me more about this, please.

I'm very... curious.
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>>111916345
Where would Omegamon X go?
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>>111915815
Because Digimon is full of pedo.
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I'm thinking of re-watching the series subbed instead of the 4kids dub I saw as a kid.

Worth it?
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>>111916646
>audience doesn't give a shit because they self-insert as Taichi, not you
Thanks for proving the point?
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I'd like to see Examon being forced to sit outside of whatever building the Royal Knights are meeting in because he's too bigwith Ridley right next to him outside the Smash Bros Building
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>>111916646
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>>111916673
god tier
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Oh come the fuck on. Maybe you don't remember 02 the same way I remember 02, but Takeru was a dick throughout most of the series toward almost everybody but Hikari, and he at times almost antagonized Daisuke for no other reason than disagreeing with him.
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>>111916792
Are you trolling now, or are you really one of those obsessive insane fanboys?
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>>111916726
Yes
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>>111915815
You expect digimon to wear pants or something
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>>111915985
>This is what TKfags actually believe
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>>111915815
Ruki should be naked all the time.
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>>111916345
VictoryGreymon and whatever Garuruomon are that good?
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After watching Episode 30 of Xros Wars, I think Omegamon is actually Shoutmon's dad. Why else would he give the Omega InForce away?
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I remember seeing the part where TK fought Ken. I remember thinking to myself, "WTF??? Ken is like a fucking black belt in Judo! Is TK stupid or something?"

Funny thing is, TK won that fight. I was like "Did they fucking forget that or something? That is so stupid, there's no way TK shouldn't have gotten his ass handed to him."
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>>111916924
>>111916792
Finally, people who understand.
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>>111916792
What? Takeru was overly nice to the new kids except Ken (for the whole genocide thing, and he even forgives him faster than Iori), and the only big fight I remember with Daisuke is the one during the brainwashed Agumon thing.
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>>111916737
Close, when I self-insert in Adventure it's as Izzy.
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>>111916972
In the Digimon Next manga they are, but those were probably stronger that regular ones.
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>>111916726

>4kids dub

nope
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>>111917116
> Izzy

Mah nigga
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>>111917185
Read and comprehend before you post or you look like a retard
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>>111916826
Daisukefags automatically hate Takeru because anyone who is Daisuke's designated "rival" (which he actually isn't, even, not that they believe or care) must have tried to persecute Daisuke some way and is worthy of hatred.

Seriously, Takeru has no real ties to Daisuke, and it's rather baffling that the Daisukefags should hate him so much.
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>>111916671
Just how he stalks her throughout the episode making her more and more frightened, captures her and stifles her scream in a place without witnesses, and then holds her close to his dick while he tries to coax her into being his partner
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It was “funny” seeing the writers try to pretend powerlevels were consistent, increasingly struggling and giving up to explain why Angemon and HolyAngemon weren’t more effective.

>-Well, the Dark Spires prevent him from evolving.
>-Well, Okuwamon is not an Nightmare Soldier digimon, you see, so the elemental affinities don’t mesh… please don’t pay attention to the fact that Okuwamon is a Virus, and that being made of Black Spires, he’s literally evil energy incarnate.
>-See, HolyAngemon is totally effective against BlackWarGreymon, we haven’t nerfed him! …even though BlackWarGreymon is Metal Empire/Dragon Roar and not Nightmare Soldier, meaning their affinity is exactly the same as with Okuwamon.
>-You know what, fuck it. Skullsatamon beats everyone. Yes, he’s s Nightmare Soldier Virus and just a Perfect Level and should be getting his ass fucked, we don’t give a fuck anymore. Everyone gives their energy to Imperialdramon even though there’s two fucking angel Digimon right there. Suck the goggleboy cock. We’re gonna make a movie where Omnimon jobs so he can get another cool evolution too.
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>>111917116
I feel like one can self-insert into Izzy or Jou the best.

Occasionally Taichi when he's a douche and learns a lesson.
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>>111917216

The dub wasn't made by 4kids
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>>111917250
Doesn't sound too exciting, meh.
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>>111917243
I liked the one anemic looking guy best.
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>>111917361
It seems I am now the one who failed to comprehend. Internet Irony strikes again.
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>>111917007
The whole point of Kaiser is that he's a brainwashed moron who thinks he's playing a game and is faced with a guy who is so supremely unimpressed with his bullshit that it frightens him.
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>>111917426

Thank you for admitting your mistake, now go and watch the show
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>>111916991
Good question.

Since when does anything in Xross Wars made sense?
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there cant be a digimon show about alphamon

he only appears when yggdrasil wants to die so yeah, aka never
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>>111916991
According to profiles, Shoutmon is what happens when an Omegamon dies and gets reincarnated.
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>>111917284
Except that's true from that point on. Angemon only appears to be OP because almost everything he fought was a nightmare soldier.

HolyAngemon didn't really "fight" Blackwargreymon or even hit him with attacks. All he did was make a Holy Gate and try to push Blackwargreymon into it. The suction from the gate and struggling with HolyAngemon actually makes sense as to what is going on.

Skullstatmon's thing was that he was just insanely fast. I CLEARLY remember that. At that point it sort of has little to do with what is effective against what, if you can't hit the damn target. Imperialdramon happened to be the thing that killed him because he was holding a bus at the time.


Nothing about that was hard to explain.
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>>111917390
Ruki being bound up, stripped, and tortured by Icedevimon with whips and shit and Renamon coming to her rescue and witnessing her like that had to be one of my first sexual fantasies

I was never really in to Juri as a kid so her mindrape didn't exceptionally excite me
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>>111917503
Once you take everything you knew before and throw it out the window instead of comparing it to other seasons, it makes sense in its own way.

Making a season where the main Digimon are more developed than the human characters was fascinating. It fell flat at times, and flatlined completely when Hunters came around, not gonna deny that.

Hunters had a good concept but shitty execution.

>>111917604
Wasn't that in the manga?
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>>111917700
8====D
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>>111917604
> Omega Shoutmon is a form obtained when Omegamon bestowed the legendary "Evolution" upon a Shoutmon that released its boiling hot soul. In addition to its intense passion, it shines gold because its whole body is clad in the Omega inForce, a power received from Omegamon, and its build is becoming crisp and sharp.
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>>111917647
Makes sense. I remember him fighting that Giromon thing and Mamemon and not doing so well.
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>>111917776
I'd hit it.
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>>111917776
the sad part is, all of this deviantart stuff could pass as legit digimon
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>>111917647
>Skullstatmon's thing was that he was just insanely fast. I CLEARLY remember that. At that point it sort of has little to do with what is effective against what, if you can't hit the damn target.

Skullsatamon beast HolyAngemon with a single hit from his cane. One physical hit. Not even a special attack. That means he's somehow WAY stronger than Piemon.
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>>111917700
Momentai
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>>111917696
I wonder if sexual fantasies are a hereditary thing.
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>>111917909
It's momantai.
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>>111917870
Drawfag here.

Pic related; I've drawn better 63'd evolutions of digimon. That War-whatever the fuck mon just a disgrace.
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>>111917893
If I'm correct, in the actually game, the type advantage thing works both ways for Nightmare Soldiers they get wrecked by attacks from holy Digimon, but can also wreck them.

Sort of like Light beats Darkness, but Darkness beats Light...

Granted this can all just be summed up to poor writing. But eh. It makes sense on some levels.
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>>111918057
She really like angels.
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>>111918071
*actual
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>>111918057
Lucemon is the strongest Angel Digimon

And that's kinda sad, considering he's evil
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>>111918005
Close, its moumantai
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>>111918067
I was gonna post an OC donut steel recolour of etemon but I can't find it
can you do one of darkdramon?
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>>111918152
>>111918005
>>111917909
It's ???
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>>111918152
>u
That only matters depending on how you transliterate it. Like Tokyo vs Toukyo, though in this case it's cantonese rather than japanese.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZEBwLs8bSk

Never gets old.
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>>111918071
In nearly every single game, the Family has absolute NO RELEVANCE WHATSOEVER. None. Zilch. Nada. It's just categorization. The "Dramon Killer" shit was just the anime making shit up (MegaSeadramnon is a Deep Saver, MugenDramon is Metal Empire, no link wtasoever).

It's Vaccine>Virus>Data>Vaccine Rock-Paper-Scissors all the way. That's always the important mechanic. Every single matchup mentioned so far was Vaccine-Vs-Virus.
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>>111918328
Jyutping and Cantonese Pinyin uses mou5. Yale uses móuh

No commonly used system uses. Mo.
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>>111918429
Fair enough.

>>111918291 is the only correct one anyway.
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found the donut
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>>111918127
Um.. I believe Chronomon Holy Mode is.
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>>111911387
Shit, I wanna put this on the side of my van.
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>>111918410
>>111918071
Guys, just remember:
>Granted this can all just be summed up to poor writing.

If 02 can't be assed to justify/explain things, why the hell should the audience bother trying to do so on its own?
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>>111918474
This is on par with those Sonic fan arts.
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>>111918279
As a drawfag, not gonna lie, it makes me mad whenever I see shitty fanmade Digimon. Those are mostly the digimon who are given the weapons, abilities, or attributes of other Digimon. I shit you not, I've seen a Veemon marked with the Digital Hazard who wields the Omega Blade.

I wonder what Omegamon ended up dying for that shitty OC.

I'll see what I can do. I'll probably post the result in another thread.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjjekRanpyM

Best girl, best music, best everything.
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>>111918593

The only thing she is best at is being a slut
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>>111918475
Chronomon doesn't have an official type. He's more likely a God-Man Digimon than an Angel.
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>>111918410
Then in theory Angemon should have had no problem against Arukenimon or Mummymon, but we saw how well that went....
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>>111914943

when the fuck did this happen?!?!
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>>111918675
>being a slut is a bad thing
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>>111918675
She is not your mom.
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>>111918734
Clearly a preview for the new season.
It's Diablomon Strikes Back. More people need to watch it.
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So which Digigirls got tentacled?

Zoe, Ruki, Juri... any more?
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>>111918822
They will when the BD remasters come out.
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>>111918496
That would be poor writing on both seasons parts, not just 02.

Adventure didn't fucking cement that Angemon is more powerful than the average Digimon. It's just our poor knowledge of that fucking shit as kids and writing him as a plot device that mislead people into thinking that. Almost every incarnation of Angemon from that point on wasn't presented as being OP.
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>>111914943
>Riding on its shoulder

Either Kari is tiny or Angewomon is HUGE
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>>111918822

wait, shit that must be part of "all that shit before Armageddemon shows up" no-one ever talks about.

I really do need to re-watch that.
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>>111918822
Is that the word "fucking"?
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>>111918727
Worse, both are NightmareSoldier on tope of Virus. Meaning that even IF you assume the anime made up a rule about Field being important that still makes no sense. Same guy who kills a Phantomon with a blow that wasn't even aimed at him.
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>>111918822

>that poster

JAPAAAAAN
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>>111918873
The BDs won't have English subtitles.

>Remasters
Here's hoping they have the originals.
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>>111918822
Are they entering a strip club?
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>12 years later
>still arguing about Angemon power levels
Guys, let's just give it a rest...
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>>111918880
Adventures is completely consistent on Angemon: he's considerably stronger than the others at the same level. He beats Devimon when nobody else can, he fights Vamdemon and other digimon one evolutionary level above him just as well as the rest of the team's Perfect levels throughout the whole arc and his Perfect form is the only onw who manages to stand against Piemon. "Dramon Killer" might be a bullshit made-up rule, but at the very least they stay consistent in that series.

Don't try to drag Adventure down to 02's level just because the latter is full of shit.
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>>111918986
>The BDs won't have English subtitles.
Fansubs.

Still, it is rather odd that it won't have since this is one of those franchises where there already is an established western fanbase.
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>>111918986
>paint bucket

Preston-sensei?
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Am I supposed to be reading "Takeru" as "Tah-Kurr-oo"?
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>>111914943
How big is angewomon supposed to be?
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>>111911132
I actually prefer Gorudoramon rather than alphamon.
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>>111919264
Personally I just call him Gaoshi Qiu.
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>>111908430
Ruki from Tamers in Rina's clothes.
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Are DVDs or BDs out for Xros yet?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFVTicqBkiU&list=PLDdq99uzziW66TADW_HyF1Y0AybZxXem8&index=2

OP! Is A Faggot.
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>>111919332
Now that is an awesome episode title.
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It's funny looking back and knowing a lot more about Odaiba and Fuji TV. They really put a lot of work into this. Even the trains.
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>>111919332
> Not A Faggot Appears, OP!
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>>111918696
>>111918791

top kek
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Mods are really monitoring the Digimon threads as I've seen many posts got deleted. Cool!
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>>111919380
About a year ago I was in Japan and amanged to actually see the TV station and the Shinjuku Government Office. Even went up to the observation deck (though they kicked me out when I tried to look around for the secret HYPNOS rooms).
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>>111919284

For you.
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>>111919380
I forgot, were those people in the costumes in the Christian-purified dub?
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>>111919284
as big as they want it to be
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>>111919437
>not canon
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>>111918921
Then by that point NEITHER of us would be "right". Again... Poor writing. I'm pretty sure it was just a matter of we need to show off the "new stuff."

Dude in adventure it was just that simple ANGEL BEATS DEMON, even I understood this as a child and that was the whole point they were trying to get across. There was no reason to think that Angemon was some uber powerful thing that was stronger than the rest of them. Granted, I'm aware that people latched on to that, and I don't blame them, but to still hold on to that shit here and now? Come one dude.

>>111919066

Ok then. If Angemon is so damn powerful, then explain why in also most everything Angemon is featured in past Adventure, he gets his ass handed to him by something his level or one higher. Lets not even touch 02.

Let's go with Frontier. Frontier was very well written.

Cherubimon kicked Seraphimon's ass not one but twice and the first time he even had Ophanimon helping him, the second time Mercurymon (who might as well be a fucking Champion) did it.

Hell of a lot of good Angemon did protecting those other kids in frontier.
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>>111908182
>A lonely Dorumon who suffers constant abuse and exile from those around him
That movie sucked hard.
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Someone should always start Digimon threads in /a/ with this background music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbVnaSnH17I&index=1&list=PLDdq99uzziW66TADW_HyF1Y0AybZxXem8

And give a short summary of previous versions/threads, that'll refuel the HYPE.
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>>111919535
on
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>>111919449
Fuji TV was way bigger than I imagined. I even recognized the construction where Yamato and Gabumon were hiding across the street although it's finished now.

The Metropolitan Building was huge but I was surprised how few people were around. Suddenly Digimon fighting in Tamers was more believeble.
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>>111911221
>>111911252
Colored another one.
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This OC digimon seems legit
[insert uncontrollable snickering here]
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>>111918841
Ikuto's mom, if that counts.
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>>111919437
Please stop it. It hurts.
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>>111916345
>tfw we're probably going to see V-Greymon and Z-Garurumon animated soon

2015 can't come sooner
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>>111919523
could've fooled me
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>>111919675
Thanks, I would love an anime where the main digimon become royal knights
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>>111909979
Thankfully not. He had some medical issue recently though which is why he didnt do much for Hunters
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>>111919523
>implying Tai can't visit his friends
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>>111919535
Look it was my childhood and I remember Angemon being the strongest. So if I wanna believe that Angemon is stronger than the average fuck, then that's what I'll believe, regardless of how Bandai or Toei wanted or currently wants to present him.
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>>111919459

Yes
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I spent way too much time on this
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>>111919437
FTFY
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>>111919380
Did someone cut off Tai's Mom's feet?
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>>111919535
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cherubimon kicked Sheraphimon's ass in the movies too.
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>That foreshadowing.
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Damn it all, Taiora shippers. Quit being so melodramatic. If Taichi didn't care that much why must you?
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>>111920148

>The one you're fucking
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>>111908235
It was incredible. I wouldn't mind at all if the new series would be so good at conveying the fear of unknown Digimon so brilliantly.
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Which is total bullshit because a Seraph outranks a Cherub.

Just stop worrying about it guys. Digimon ate as powerful as the current writer wants them to be.
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>>111920254
It's just being honest
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>>111920244
self-inserting at work. No denying Sora was babby's first waifu for many. Here's to hoping that the new season satisfies everyone.
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>>111920229
They're not subtle at all.
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>>111919535
>Frontier was very well written
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Was it rape?
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>>111920244
>Taiora shippers
Is it so hard to just say Tai/Sora? Is it?
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>>111920208
Indeed he did, but some people like to pretend like Hurrican Touchdown isn't canon.

At first the creators were like.. "Yes it takes place right after Daisuke get his second Digimental". Later they were like, "No it isn't canon."

Then they released the Drama CD with Daisuke that had Wallace, and they were like..."Wait.... shit... it is canon because the drama CD is canon."

I'm pretty sure they stopped caring whether it's canon or not, so take it as you will.

Sort of explains the whole Mimi/Wallace dating thing.
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>>111920349
Nope. Even then I thought Sora was a moody and plain bitch. Mimi >
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>Kouji's throat cancer means he'll never sing the same again

It's not fair
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Alright /a/, let's do this. For every season you've actually watched, pic your favourite digimon for each level besides in training and baby.

For instance

>Adventure
Gomamon; Kabuterimon ; Etemon ; Machinedramon.
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>>111920418
Well, people still incorrectly use "01" (or even worse "Adventure 01") as shorthand for Adventure, so yes, saving those 2 letters make all the difference.
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Just going to post my list
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>>111920598
Almost as bad as people who want to call this new season 03...
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>>111920654
You could laugh for days at tumblr then.
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>>111920654
well it is the 3rd adventures season of digimon to be fair.
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>>111920525
>Adventure
Gomamon, Greymon, Weregarurumon, Omegamon

>Adventure 02
Wormmon, Stingmon, Silphymon, Imperialdramon

>Tamers
Guilmon, Gargomon, Rapidmon, Beelzemon

>Savers
Agumon, Gawappamon, RizeGreymon, BanchoLeomon

>Frontier
>Xros Wars
Not sure wha the levels would be for these.
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>>111920736
In frontier, there humanoid forms are equal to champions, beast forms ultimates, the greymon and garurumons after that are megas then we got the god killer.
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>>111920726
Then just use 3. The zero in 02 is only there because the series title is literally "Zero Two" to be a play on numbers for the year 2002. Tacking on the zero defeats the whole purpose of it being shorthand.
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>>111920796
Fair enough, but if i had to put money down on it, they are just going to call it Digimon, seeing as there last season had a ridiculous long title.
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>>111920924

My money is on Digimon Adventure: Next or something as equally dumb
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>>111920525
>Adventure
Agumon, Gatomon, Zudomon, Wargreymon

>Zero Two
Vmon, Stingmon

>Tamers
Guilmon, Kyubimon, Rapidmon, Sakuyamon

>Frontier
Kazemon, Burninggreymon
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>>111921111
>shit taste
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>>111921099
>we missed the chance to have the series set in 2007 so we could have the "Zero Seven" double meaning (all three parts of Xros Wars, including Young Hunters, is being counted as six)
But I suppose university is outside Toei's comfort zone...
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I really don't like Ryo
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>>111921237
Nobody does, he only exists to tie the first 3 seasons together into one.
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