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Are there any harem stories where the "obvious" girl doesn't win? The third girl, or even fourth?

In a world of demure childhood friends and fiery half-foreign transfer students (or some remix of those traits), are there any MCs with the courage to go for the quirky rich girl, the secondary-childhood-friend yandere, the tipsy slut, the hopeless loli, or any one of the other, more interesting and less aggravating choices? Is there anyone strong enough to defy the gravity of the two "main girls", setting aside blue and red in favour of green or purple?

pic sadly a counterexample
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>>111033037
Ichigo something whatever
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>>111033037
Try Mashiroiro Symphony
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>>111033037
No.

All I've seen is
1. Obvious girl wins
2. Unresolved end
3. Harem end
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>>111033553
Ichigo 100%. Strawberry panties girl was his goal, but instead of having it be about the whole harem and guy beating around every bush about feelings, it's the first girl who bothered being straight-forward who wins. The story was actually pretty good too, and the cast had goals beyond falling in love and graduating high school.

And if you Fruits Basket as a sort of reverse harem, the obvious boy ends up being in platonic love while the other one wins.
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>>111033968
The end was shit though. And the thing as a whole, too.
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Well, doesn't Yukimura win in Haganai?
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>>111033968
Kyou winning was obvious by volume 4 or something in Fruits Basket, that's pretty early
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>>111033037
akane iro
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>>111034195
Rika will most likely win, Yukimura just got the cliffhanger.
Well whatever happens it won't be one of the 2 main heroines
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Anime Shuffle!
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>>111034195
For being generic Haremshit, I really enjoyed Haganai.
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>>111033037
The World God Only Knows
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TWGOK sort of went this route. At least the winning girl wasn't obvious from the beginning. Everything comes together to point to her by the end though.
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TWGOK, except it was retconned in the tank to be very ambiguous so I don't know what to say. She was one of the later girls and started as a background character. She should have won, did, and then canon was re-written.
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>>111034195
>>111034571
>>111034741

I am not up to date with the LNs. How much further do they go from the anime? Any chance for a third season?
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>>111034571

But yukimura won
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>>111033037
The first episode of shuffle is like "he's totally going to go for the childhood friend", or, if not that, one of the magical princesses that show up wanting to marry him.

And then he goes for Asa. And she's not even an archetype that ever wins.
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>>111035159
But the problem is, it's Shuffle. I'd rather play a 1980's galge than watch that shit.
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>>111034875
you should have stayed till the end of that thread. Canon stayed canon, the dialogue was just changed to more accurately parallel the "I can see the ending" catch phrase. Blush was taken out though though which is disapointing but might be more in character.
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>>111035056
I read the last volume, everything is building up to a Rika end.
Yukimura literally only had 2 scenes in the volume.
Anyways the series hasn't ended yet
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>>111035320
Hey, OP didn't specify that the whole show had to be good.
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>>111035496

>One more LN
>Its an epilogue
>Rika friendzoned him from the start
>hurr she hasn't won COME FROM BEHIND VICTORY

ok
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>>111034803
>The World God Only Knows

This.

It was well-developed and not a surprise at all by the end of the story, but Chihiro was basically the anti-Main Girl. In terms of plot importance and time spent with Keima, she was behind Elsie, Haqua, Tenri, and possibly even Ayumi (the supposed First Girl).
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>>111035496
>Yozora's face when she lost because she created the stupid club
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>>111035580
>Rika friendzoned him from the start
Except the latest volume is all about showing how much Kodaka loves her and they even explicitly says that he has been in love with her for a while now and that everything he said about liking Sena and Yukimura but only seeing Rika as a friend in the past was just him misunderstanding his feeling of love for friendship?

But I'm just arguing with a retard who read a few spoilers in some random threads and think he know shit
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>>111034195
Wait, for real?
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>>111035906

Yeah exactly he loves her, she does not love him she wants to be friends

Which is why she asked him to be friends

Are you dense?
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>>111033037
Kampfer.
I'm told that Natsuru chooses Akane in the books and Shizuku in the manga. Which are both not-the-obvious-choice endings, since normally you'd expect it would be either the girl he was trying to win the entire time, or the default childhood friend.

(warning: like >>111035335 , Kampfer is still guilty pleasure tier at best)
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>>111034741
>For being generic Haremshit, I really enjoyed Haganai.

Is it generic if the winning girl isn't the lead heroine? Or even the #2?
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>>111035991
Childhood friend only wins if she is the main heroine. Otherwise she is beyond doomed.
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>>111035991
Akane was the "First Girl" so it's more like she'll normally win.
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>>111035986
It's pretty obvious she loves him too.
But in the club she is pretty much the loneliest so she is just afraid of losing the first friend she ever had.
It's pretty obvious if you read Connect.
If you don't see where the story is going you are pretty retarded
Anyways I actually read the latest volumes, you obviously didn't, so just stop.
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>>111035682
>plot importance.
That's only if you are focusing on the supernatural side of the plot (which most do). The human element side of the plot was pretty much dominated by her by the end.
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>>111033968
But didn't Ichigo 100% abandon its original ending for a winner determined by popularity poll?
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>>111036233

>It's pretty obvious she loves him too.

Based on the opinion you pulled out of your ass sure

Yukimura won, stay mad
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>>111033037
shuffle? primula should have won
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>>111035335
I see. I dunno, it's like I can't even give a shit about whatever Wakaki's doing anymore anyway.
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>>111036277
Yeah, it got obvious in the infamous, "There is no goddess in Chihiro," chapter and especially the following one, though it was increasingly predictable before that.

A lot of people were thrown by the time travel arc barely having Chihiro in it, not realizing that her absence was intentional to build up the drama of her return, which had a spectacular effect on Keima.
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>>111033037
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>>111036445
EVERYONE was absent in the time travel arc. It was atrocious.

Though I guess you could argue "Chihiro didn't even show up in the present-day chapters!" but who gives a fuck, and why would she?
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Are there any harems where every girl wins?
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>>111036300
>Stories done
>Yukimura won
>Someone can be this desperately delusional
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>>111036591
>Though I guess you could argue "Chihiro didn't even show up in the present-day chapters!" but who gives a fuck, and why would she?

Well, almost everyone else did, including Miyako in the "Keima keeps falling into AUs" introduction. Chihiro was conspicuous in her absence.
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>>111036318
>primula

Does The Loli *ever* pull a surprise win in a harem?
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>>111036640
School Days.
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>>111036640
Tenchi Muyo.
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Weird, just noticed that both shuffle and TWGOK's winners have fairly similar circumstances.
Both introduced as friends of seemingly more main girl and both will have drama involving that character later. Both start as playfully snarky at the expense of the main character, both seem to be less obviously interested in him than the sea of other heroines. Both more representative of a normal/equal partnership than the fantastical girls surrounding the main. Both have connections to other males (Chihiro pursuing and Asa pursued). Both have short hair and one accessory on it's left side.
Damn.
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>>111036640
Omamori himari except childhood friend and main female
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>>111036665
I guess I just really hated the time travel arc and thought it didn't work well at all. Also, Wakaki clearly ended the series early since some plot elements were rushed while others were completely ignored (in example, Elsie = Final Boss, and Demeter in that order)
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Felli won in Chrome Shelled Regios.
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>>111036816
Well deserved, MC decided to fuck off after all the bullshit that happened around him.
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Haruna won in the manga version of Korean Zombie Desk Car.
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>>111036445
true, personally I felt like there were more than enough references to her in her absence to make it clear enough but people believe what they want to believe and a large contingency of the fanbase wanted another ending.

>>111036591
that was definitely the biggest problem of the past arc, he'd just spent the goddess arc finally further exploring heroines and upping the stakes and then he just threw all that out the window.
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>>111036876
Didn't Sera die in the light novels?

Are they still ongoing?
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>>111036728
Technically, Chihiro wasn't revealed to be a friend of Ayumi until her conquest arc started. However, she was a friend of Elsie's.
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>>111033037
Yes.


He even fucked the cabbit.
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>>111037057
No clue, but yeah, the LN is still on-going (at 14 volumes).
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>>111036949
Maybe he realized that he couldn't make the final battle with Elsie-fer work. It would have been hard to do without being cliche or anticlimactic, especially since it couldn't end with Keima getting together with Elsie romantically.
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>>111036729
Himari is kind of painted the winner in the bonus chapter since she is the only one who has sex with Yuuto while he is awake.
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>>111036690
>School Days.
I feel the need to post The Chart.
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>>111036498
This, it's even a good show/movie, unlike the rest of this thread. Though Minmei and Kaifun tried to make it bad really hard. Fucking chinese shits.
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>>111037085
Oops that's definitely true. Still doesn't hurt my case if you just split that into two different points. Elsie definitely appeared to be much more important than Chihiro (ultimately the two were closer in importance than it first appeared).
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>>111033037
Ichigo 100%, TWGOK, the shuffle anime, Nurarihyon no mago isn't a harem but technically has this happen, and Kampfer are the only ones that come to mind. I'd also say Dragonball kinda falls in this category since Bulma didn't win, but that isn't harem either.
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>>111037189
that was probably the reason but I wish he had found a less clunky way to make it work.
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>>111037441
>Nurarihyon no Mago
The yuki onna doesn't win?
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>>111033968
That ending was everything but good. Not because the pairing but the whole thing seemed like something out of nowhere in the end.

The guy just decided to go for the blonde girl like, what, 2 chapters before the ending?
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>>111037441
Shonen non-harem series don't count, since the heroine is semi-frequently not a love interest of the main character (Dragon Ball, Yu Yu Hakushou, Gintama, Eyeshield 21).
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Negima.

Even if it wasn't Fate, it was someone completely unexpected, i.e. not Asuna, Nodoka, Chisame, or Yue.
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Strawberry Panic. NTR ending at its finest.
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Cat Street is a shoujo example.
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>>111037659
The yuki-onna wins, instead of the generic useless human female that always wins.
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>>111038344
Thank god, I recently started reading it and my main concern was that his classmate would win.
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>>111037123

I hate how they never release anything about after he ascends Godhood except his fucking kids and stupid sidestories no one cares about.
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>>111038546
Shame Yuki-onna isn't the hottest girl of the series, but the other one is a can't have.
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>>111036640
Most Misakiverse anime
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>>111037123

Who did he marry first?
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>>111036640
Umi no Misaki, canon harem end and you see them fuckin on screen.
I honestly feared it would just go for a Shizuki end but nope. Good for me since I liked Soyogi the most and she didn't have a chance on her own.
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Uwasa no Midori-kun is a shoujo manga were the secondary male wins. He never had a chance, the FeMC was constantly drooling over the popular asshole with a sad past but suddenly she chose the nice guy. I still don't know what happened, the asshole was clearly the mangaka's husbando
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>>111033968
Fruits Basket just had a lot of characters who liked the heroine; it was never about romance between any of them except the winner.
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>>111038835
the "obvious" girl.
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>>111038947
maybe that's why: She wanted him all to herself.
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>>111038969
The first 'main' guy got son-zoned, that was hilarious. But she was obviously going for cat.
That said, most of the cast got paired up and the author got away with trolling most of her jap fanbase.
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>>111039054
Ricchan and Micchan OTP.
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>>111036290
Blond girl happened to win the popularity poll because she is best girl, but the butthurt fans of the black haired girl concluded that she won because of the poll. MC and blond girl have been seeing each other for more than half of the manga and they act like it was an asspull... Was it really surprising for anyone?
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>>111039042

Ha! I like that.
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>>111037890
It was Konoka
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>>111038947
She also wrote Moe Kare, where the heroine goes back and forth between the twin love interests before ending up with the second one she fell in love with.
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>>111033037
KimiKiss Pure Rage
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>>111039224
What are you talking about? The obvious girl did win.
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>>111038986
Ryoko or Sasami?
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>>111034803

Chihiro was an obvious end from the first time they introduced her as a girl.
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>>111039263
I kinda disagree. If we follow the standard harem formula, then Hoshino would've won, but best girl won in the end so all's well that ends well.
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>>111038771
>Shame Yuki-onna isn't the hottest girl of the series
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>>111033037
Author rused the readers well.
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>>111039188
If it was Konoka, she would have been mentioned by Fate or Eva as Negi's actual wife.
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>>111039405
Noike
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>>111039467
It wasn't a pun, I was talking about the goddess of sex the series had.
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Does Boku wa Tomodachi count?
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>>111039585
Please, I wanted to rape tsurara the moment I saw her.
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Which one made you the most angry though?
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>>111039472

I dont see the problem here. Who the hell likes Sena?
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>>111033037
>demure childhood friends

When's the last time they ever won?
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>>111041512
>When's the last time they ever won?
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>>111037814
>Gintama
Now, now, WHO WILL REALLY WIN THE GINTAMA?
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>>111042031
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>>111036640
Campione LNs are the best example. Confirmed harem end after all girls get introduced.
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>>111039412
absolutely
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>>111036688
Depends, I guess if the loli is the only competitor or one of many. Arifureta and Mushoku Tensei both have loli winners. Arifureta even sets up an obvious first and main girl just to end up voiding her and putting the MC with a loli instead. A loli he stays devoted to despite that "main" girl and other girls trying to get affection from him.

Mushoku Tensei I don't know if it counts, since Rudy marries multiple girls, one of whom is a loli. I guess it's a surprise if you don't expect him to marry multiple girls since the loli was the second wife.
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