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Why don't the Japanese ever right good and realistic war dramas? Is it that I've just been brought up in a very militarized and gun loving society and I'm the strange one for wanting them? It seems that more Japanese have gotten into guns recently though as we've seen with things like High School of the Dead and Upotte. They are writing stories for people who enjoy accurate gun things. I still haven't seen a gritty war drama and the closest I've seen is Sora no Wato when it's doing flashbacks to the leaders past.

Is it to much to ask for cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things?

>pic related
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>>110147929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpr_75YYX1o
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We have Stella.
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>>110147929
It wouldn't sell. Japs have an unrealistic image of guns anyway, that's why they're always wielded by cute girls in the first place
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>>110147929
>It seems that more Japanese have gotten into guns recently
>recently
Military otaku have always been around and have sub categories. It's the reason GuP and Strike Witches was a huge success.
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Japanese shows are all abstracted from reality.

Just watch Gundam or something.
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>>110148017
>Japs have an unrealistic image of guns anyway
Right.
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>>110147929
>Why don't the Japanese ever right good and realistic war dramas?

Watch old shit like The Cockpit.
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Why would they.
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>>110148138
Because there is a growing market for it.
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>>110147929
but they did Its called Gundam Seed
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>>110148187

Where?
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>>110147929
>why don't the Japanese right good
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>>110148108
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>>110147929
Does anybody ever write good and realistic war dramas?
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>>110148470
It has a pointy end, wood furniture, and the shoulder thing that goes up goes up-er than any contemporary 'merkin riffle.

I want one.
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Japan does not have good experiences with war.
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>>110148609
We might have very different ideas of the word realistic
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>>110148470
I m not even /k/ here, but design is atrocious.

The magazine stands upright, blocking your view. the woodpiece would rot from sitting on the mud, and what's the point of a stationary gun with a bayonete?

The handle probably isn't sitting on its center of gravity either, so carrying it around would be a pain, too.
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They made a pretty good liveaction submarine movie couple years ago.
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Japs can't write banter for shit and 90% of making a good war drama series is quality banter.
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>>110148470
Still better than the Chauchat.
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>>110147929
>he does not watch Gundams
what a faggot
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>>110147929

Not really, but worth a look:

Gun Sling Girl
Zipang (Sounds interesting?)
Toward the Terra
Gunparade March
Saikano
Grave of the Fire Flies
Ghost in the Shell SAC S1/S2
Legend of the Legendary Heroes (Swords)
Mobile Suit Victory Gundam
Gungrave
Blue Gender
Aura Battler Dunbine
Tekkaman
Gasaraki (Gets weird)
Guin Saga
Tales of Prince Arslan (First OVA's)
Utawaremono (Tactics)
Yukikaze (Planes)
Votoms (Sci fi)
Macross Zero (Watch for animation of robots, strange bird people in the end)
Strain (Robots!)
Jin Roh (Guns!)
Claymore (Gritty, but w/ monster girls with swords)
Now and Then Here and There
Infinite Ryvius (Lord of the Flies in Space)
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (Obligatory)

>spoon feeding etc.
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>>110147929

>>110148042
>>110148236
>>110148799
this

There are two types of "real war" shows Japanese do - Gundams and Sengoku/Three Kingdoms dramas

Also, check FLAG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wfv6FjzHbw
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>>110147929
War is shit and only homosexuals who overcompensate with big guns love it.
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>>110148986
Whatever you say commie.
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>>110148271

Aoi Bungaku

Usually not animated.
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>>110149031
Mate, Americans are the definition of overcompesating faggots.
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>>110149077
Sorry I can't hear you all the way from the first world.
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>>110148667
Feeding from the top means you can fit larger magazines without them hitting the ground when you're using the bipod. It also makes magazine changes when you're firing from the hip using a sling.

Video isn't exactly scientific, and it's for the BREN, but closest I can find. ~3:48 has gunny complaining about the box mag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-CfuvCHq4I#t=228

>>110149077
>compensating
>compensating
>compensating
Can Yuros do anything without thinking of cock?
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>>110149102
We still higher HDI and IHDI than you cunts.
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>>110147929
>cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things
Because THAT would sale at all. I'm sure people on /a/ would eat it up but Japan would probably be repulsed by something like that.
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>>110147929
Anime isn't their only medium you know...
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>>110149182
>muh HDI muthfucka
Talk about a broken record.
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>>110149157
Wouldn't side-mounted be best?

And from my knowledge, hip-firing is awful and should be avoided always.
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>bitch about having the lack of good and realistic war dramas
>want little girls in them
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>>110149157
Just admit Japan cant into weapons.
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>>110149348
>bitch about having the lack of good and realistic war dramas
Autists cant relate to something unless there is something cute and colorful on the screen, see the MLP war pictures from deviant art for an example of this.
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>>110149387
19D Cav Scout involved in the invasion of Iraq. I just like seeing cute little girls in my anime.
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>War Drama
>featuring little girls
Thatfs Mai-Otome for you
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>>110149408
Who doesn't.
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>>110149272
Hip-firing IS awful, but nobody knew that yet. Marching fire was THE role for the light machine gun, s'pecially after everyone saw how mobile those krauts were with their submachine guns.

I'm guessing side-mounted mags didn't happen because they'd make it harder for lefties to reload.

>>110149376
No doubt the nips had some shitty stuff, but the Brits did the same damn thing with the top-mounted magazine. If two sets of engineers stumbled across the same design independently, it more than likely had some apparent redeeming feature.
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>>110149539
>implying anyone ever cares about lefties
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No Jormungand yet?
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>>110149539
Top mounted mags make it easier for your buddy to change the mag for you so you don't have to change positions when firing. If you're stuck using a box fed weapon in the supporting fire role it's not a terrible design.
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>>110149539
It was not so much two groups of engineers coming up with the same design as both weapons being derivatives of the same Czech design.
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:>>110147929
>Is it to much to ask for cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things?

Strike Witch love is alive and well. Happy, fun, fanservice girls sell merchandise. Tragedies and depressing plots are already known to not sell merchandise.
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>>110149863
Madoka shows the current market still has interest in muh suffering stuff.
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>>110147929
Anyone who can write a good and realistic war drama is doing it live-action.
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>>110149408
Sora No Woto is as close as you are gonna get. You just need to face facts.
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>>110149923
Madoka isn't a military drama.
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>>110150023
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>>110149408

>Cav Scout

That explains a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ABMB0MW6VIU#t=112
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>>110147929
There is a serious lack of /k/ porn in anime. Usually I leave gritty realistic stuff to the west but they're just as fucking bad about it.
>every war movie
>MURRIKA FUKK YEAR SAVING THE WORLD
>Oh wait you wanted guns and a realistic portrayal of war? Too bad have some relationship drama and oscar bait emotional shit with some jingoism sprinkled in.
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>>110148470
>Type 99
>not your raifu
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>>110150663
I hate using it in RO2 reloading constantly is not a good thing for an MG, the only redeeming feature about it is that sexy scope but then I'd rather just play marksman.
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>>110147929
Check out a manga called Battlefield.
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>>110150663
>Having anything other then the Mosin
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>>110150663
>Type 99
>Implying it has anything on the Charlton
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>>110150764
If only I could make love to a gun
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Its my dream that one day Japan will make their own version of Band of Brothers were as the only difference is everyone in it is a cute loli and pants dont exist.
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>>110150882
>Spats of Sisters
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>>110150263
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>>110150804
Why is he so perfect?
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>>110150952
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>>110151011
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>>110151035
who is this semen demon?
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>>110148865
i was just about to bring up flag. while it has the whole exoskeleton thing that is still more of a legitimate near-future science-fiction thing than mecha trope. one of the smartest and most engaging animes i have watched.
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>>110151053
Fritz Joseph Bittenfeld
Master of warfare
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>>110151151
filthy barbarian
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>>110149863
>Strike Witch love is alive and well. Happy, fun, fanservice girls sell merchandise.

Did you know that the original Strike Witches universe, the one from the novels, is actually quite violent?
Witches die, the Neuroi are far worse and more dangerous, the military fights alongside witches when possible and die too.
The war is taken seriously and the fighting too, with actually well narrated dogfighting and striker units obeying physics and their IRL counterpart specs.

The novels have witches knocked out by explosion blasts and smashing into the ground while unconscious.
They have witches crash on landing because they fly on machines that fly nothing like what they were used to due to the switch from turn-n-burn to heavier boom-n-zoom fighters adapted to new doctrines.
They have no-name witches operate from shitty bases in obsolete equipment.

Etc etc.

Stop watching the pile of shit that is the anime and go see the actual universe that Fumikane made before. It is good.
Fuck the 501st. Fuck the anime.
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>WHY DOESN'T DO THIS THING I WANT THEM TO DO ;_;

back to >>>/k/ with you
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>>110147929
Pic related? If it were realistic all the character would be burly men and all the fights would be at 300m. The Americans haven't made many realistic war films, truth is, real war is boring.
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>>110151406
That's what's funny about it, they spend millions getting everything to look as authentic as possible, then they throw realism right out the door. Applies to videogame shooters too.
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>>110151406
>real war is boring
Far from it, if anything war has become a scripted process. Politics, money and other factors come into play when the grunts are thrown into the thick of it.
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>>110151406
>truth is, real war is boring.

The WWII period was full of action on certain theaters.

Take a Finnish fighter pilot during the Winter War. He's in the air more often than not, he encounters enemies sometimes minutes after taking off, and he ends up shooting multiple aircraft on most sorties while flying some obsolete aircraft given by another country.
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>>110151406
>real war is boring
Leave.
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>>110150263
>you will never be delta
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>>110151406
>300m

More like either everything is within 50 meters because you're going from door to door or it's standoff distances across a valley and you're shooting at something you can't see at least 700m away
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>>110151553
Band of brothers is good, but its far from realistic. Believe me, if you wanted realism, you'd just watch a documentary.
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I want an anime Generation Kill
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>>110149539
brits and japs are both dumb and cant into guns
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>>110151406
>and all the fights would be at 300m.

This is what weapon designers like to think. That is not how it works. In any war where both sides have somewhat equal chances due to various factors.
See: any fighting the Russian forces got into in their former territories over the past 15 or so years.
Fighting was messy, point blank stuff with AKs while ineffective air support flew overhead and reinforcements were stuck in roadside ambushes on the way.

Not every war is about shooting multi-million dollar weapons at talibans in their mountains.
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>>110151631
700m is double the effective rang of most assault rifles.
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>>110151406
unless of course your in africa in which case you fight like a space marine with machete in one hand and ak in another
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>season 2 never
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>>110147929
Because Japan is peaceful country, no wars.
Let America wage wars: you, fortunate Japan, fapping.
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>>110151701
>ineffective air support
Arty and airstrikes have claimed, by far, the most lives in wars in the past 100 years.
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>>110151713
Doesn't matter. Nobody wants to get closer in case the enemy notices your approach halfway and you get caught with your pants down out of cover. It'll take way too long to assault a position properly that far away anyway, and the longer you take the more likely they'll notice.
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Aren't most American war dramas still about WWII? The last glory war, the last one that turned out well and everybody can agree was justified? Yeah, Japan lost that one and was demilitarised soon after. I don't think they have much to work off of.
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>>110151701
The truth is, CQC is a rare event, most of the time you'll be fighting in a farmers field in the middle of nowhere.
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>>110151771
Artillery is air-support now?
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>>110151861
Air support alone has claimed far more lives than the infantry in recent wars.
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>>110151186
How about you stop killing Gary Stus on your own sides first.
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>>110151771
Can you read?
Go read reports on fighting in Chechnya.
Look at what soldiers have to say about "air support".

>Arty and airstrikes have claimed, by far, the most lives in wars in the past 100 years.

Yes, let us summary war to what happened in the last 100 years, because WWI's artillery pits and WWII's strategic bombing raids are perfectly valid concerns in modern war.
NOT.

War isn't about obliterating a trench line or leveling cities with millions of bombs anymore.
That's where most of arty and airstrike kills in figures came from.
Try seeing what arty and airstrikes do in urban combat over assets that you actually want to capture and not destroy: it doesn't do much because neither can operate well without putting their own forces, or themselves at risk.

Russians in Grozny saw choppers passing above and thought "why aren't they helping".
And the pilots answered "we couldn't stay long enough to acquire targets, it was too dangerous".
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i just want an infantry anime with gun porn,
sora no woto was boring as shit, nothing happening for 3/4 of the eps,
there's GuP, strike witches and kancolle, now i want something that ain't about school, flying legs or personified military vehicles
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Realism in anime is always bad, no matter the genre.
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>>110151941
And you have only stated a few couple instances, most battles don't take place in city's and you're not always trying to protect shit. Most modern arty can always accurately hit within 10m of its intended target and guided bombs are becoming more accurate by the day so there's actually not much of a argument for saying ti endangers the lives of friendly troops, seeing as most airstrikes and artystrikes never fall closer than 100m to a friendly position.
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>>110151322
Are you literally retarded? What is supply and demand? Have you ever heard of marketing? If there is a group of people who want something, they will likely get it.
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>>110152118
I'm pretty sure you'd have a fair chance of dying if someone dropped a mk84 100 meters away.
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>>110152138
>implying nips care about bunch of neckbeards with gun fetish who probably don't even buy BD's
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>>110152257
Which is why I mentioned the apparently growing population of gun and military enthusiasts in Japan. Do you even fucking read?
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>>110152222
Keyword, most, not all airstrikes are dropping mk 84's.
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>>110152285
>Which is why I mentioned the apparently growing population of gun and military enthusiasts in Japan. Do you even fucking read?
Fucking where? Retard. Also, it is still an insignificant minority.
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>>110152257

Actually military-otaku are an interesting market nowadays, hence things like Girls und Panzer and Kancolle making mad dosh and causing a rise in sales of plastic models.
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>>110152353
>It seems that more Japanese have gotten into guns recently though as we've seen with things like High School of the Dead and Upotte. They are writing stories for people who enjoy accurate gun things.

Half of the OP.
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>people on this board haven't watched LoGH
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>>110152353
>Also, it is still an insignificant minority.

Yes yes. Not like the most popular game in all Japan right now is Kantai Collection aka a game made for ship-nuts.
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>>110152383
How the fuck would I know that you are the OP? Also, none of them are realistic as you want. Realism in anime never works.
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>>110152431
By the fact that I said "I" implying I was OP.
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This artist gives me the weirdest boner. Thanks OP
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>>110152299
Where do you find out the percentage breakdown of ordnance they drop from air strikes?
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>>110152285
Japan is still a no-gun country and will stay that way, and military otaku haven been around for decades, I don't see a growing number.
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>>110152512
Sooner or later you will be fapping to cement or tarpit-girls.
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>>110152602
>I don't see a growing number.

See >>110152429

as well as GuP, one of the most popular shows of the past few years.

Military-otaku may not grow more numerous but they are more present as a target audience now.
Hell this season again we have a show about airsoft.
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>>110152612
It looks cool
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>>110152516
I don't have the percentages, but I do know what can be dropped close enough to be considered safe an what can't, remember, an airstrike can be anything from an a10 firing a maverick at an enemy tank to a stratofortress leveling a town.
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>>110152612
>Not slapping your meat to Ryona.
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>>110152759
2tame4me
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>>110147929
Well they did write Metal Gear Solid. That's better than anything war related America has ever written...
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>>110152779
Define to me your superior tastes in meat slapping material.
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>>110152779
Is this your kind of thing? http://exhentai.org/g/584883/f159387923/
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>>110148865
Gundam is not that real, since there's usually an evil side and a good side.
And the whole premise of Flag is really stupid. They sent an elite unit to retrieve a fucking FLAG and then that unit (if I remember correctly) committed war crimes even though they knew that a journalist was watching them. Just wow.
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Fuck military

i want cute girls in the god damn swat and anti terror teams
>no cute GIGN competing against cute GSG 9 anime
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>>110150764
>nugget meme
i dont get why /k/ has the most terrible taste in guns and planes
>nuggets
>warthog
lol
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>>110153209
>tfw no cute girls counter strike anime
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>>110153333
Please lurk the fuck more before you post because typing like a 12 year old is not acceptable here.
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It would be a nice to see moeblobs being put through war trauma.
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>>110152809
Not very realistic though.
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>>110151698
This is true, as evidence shows.
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>>110153473
Sure, so long as it has stuff like this:
>The VC delivered a similar warning to the residents of a hamlet not far from Danang. All were herded before the home of their chief. While they and the chief’s pregnant wife and four children were forced to look on, the chief’s tongue was cut out. Then his genital organs were sliced off and sewn inside his bloody mouth. As he died, the VC went to work on his wife, slashing open her womb. Then, the nine-year-old son: a bamboo lance was rammed through one ear and out the other. Two more of the chief’s children were murdered the same way. The VC did not harm the five-year-old daughter — not physically: they simply left her crying, holding her dead mother’s hand.
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>>110153591
>then USA comes and napalms everything into oblivion
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>>110153426
why is it so good then o wise one
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>>110153685
Lt. Kilgore pls leave
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>>110153734
There is nothing better than burning people with napalm or gasoline, hell even the commies agree.
>Two VC battalions struck in the earliest hours, when the village was asleep. Quickly killing the sentries, the communists swarmed among the rows of tidy, thatch-roofed homes, putting the torch to them. The first knowledge that many of the villagers had of the attack was when VC troops turned flamethrowers on them in their beds. Some families awoke in time to escape into nearby jungle. Some men stood and fought, giving their wives and children time to crawl into trenches dug beneath their homes as protection against mortar and rifle fire. But when every building was ablaze, the communists took their flamethrowers to the mouth of each trench and poured in a long, searing hell of fire — and, for good measure, tossed grenades into many. Methodical and thorough, they stayed at it until daybreak, then left in the direction of the Cambodian border.

>Morning revealed a scene of unbelievable horror. The village now was only a smoldering, corpse-littered patch on the lush green countryside. The bodies of 252 people, mostly mothers and children, lay blistered, charred, burned to the bone. Survivors, many of them horribly burned, wandered aimlessly about or stayed close to the incinerated bodies of loved ones, crying. Some 500 were missing; scores were later found in the jungle, dead of burns and other wounds; many have not been found.
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>>110152998
There's always 0080. Very heavily solidified in me the ideal that it's still just people on every side of every war.
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>>110147929
Why don't you right the word write the write way?
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>>110153870
I always heard good things about War in the Pocket. Do I need to watch the other Gundam shows in order to understand it? Because the only Gundam show I've seen so far is Wing, which wasn't very good.
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>>110154179
Ask /m/, they probably should have a Gundam watching guide or two.
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>>110154314
Okay.
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>>110150764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vozi2bk4ms
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>>110151549
>/k/ on a Friday night
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Am I fucked up if seeing cute anime girls done execution-style is more disturbing to me than seeing it done to actual humans?
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>>110154447
Actual humans aren't cute.
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>>110154447
Yes.
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>>110148008

I actually liked the plot of it.

I wish more anime had that central theme.
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>>110152408
>LoGH
>realistic
yeah because im gonna carry an axe to attack another ship when the spear is better suited to this type of battle
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So
I'm not the only one watching Sabagebu right?
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>>110147929
But they do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=regl4vTld5E
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>>110156119
I despise airshit and was going to pass on it, but /a/ convinced me to try it. It's actually pretty entertaining. Just friends fucking around and having fun pretend wars, none of that tourney arc "serious business" competitive bullshit that went down in C3-bu.
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>>110154968
>carrying an axe instead a gun
I never got this
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>>110156409
would you shoot a gun in a plane or better question why would you shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane?
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>>110154968
>>110156409
Did neither of you actually watch the show? They said that if they used their laser guns the the particles around them would ignite everything and kill them
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>>110156617
I know guns but why didnt they use spears or halberds since its more feasible? hell why not a pilebunker
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>>110156657
Probably just personal preference
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>>110156617
But didn't the enemy constantly use guns in these scenes?
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>>110149923
>Urobuchi will never do a "cute girls with guns" anime
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>>110156409
strong independent explosives that need no oxygen.
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There's plenty of manga like that
and there's probably books and movies that the Japanese made like that as well.
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They got to get rid of the little girls. I"m sorry, but wars aren't going to have cute girls doing cute things more than 1% of the time.You're not going to see a cute girl shooting a gun or complaining that a Nazi is looking at her "pantsu" or any of this nonsense. Does this mean that there can't be women in war? Of course not, but they're not going to be cute, magical girls that ruin any atmosphere that such a story would have.

The thing that makes little girls attractive (as in, likeable) to an audience in an anime is that they do cute things. They have a floating demeanor, they enjoy simpler things, they have "fun." If you want a realistic girl in a apocalyptic/war scenario then just play that Walking Dead game. Just accept it.
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>>110156925
...For example...
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>>110150531
Band of Brothers and The Pacific were good though. there are several decent war movies.
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>>110156941
>I"m sorry, but wars aren't going to have cute girls doing cute things more than 1% of the time
So you are actually implying that 1% of war is cute girls doing cute things?
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>>110147929
>Is it that I've just been brought up in a very militarized and gun loving society
Then chuck in some story ideas, would love to hear them
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>>110156974
Mai Wei was pretty entertaining, shame it flopped.
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>>110156941
Anime is exclusively for shows with cute girls.
If you don't want cute girls, then I'm afraid this is not the medium for you.
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>>110156941
>implying nazi girls gassing jews is not cute
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>>110149923
I think that is mostly because it actually have an "uplifiting" ending. If the ending was depressing to the core, it probably won't attract as much audience
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>>110157049
I'm not saying it's not cute, I'm just saying you can't take it seriously.

>>110157007
1% of the time, you'll see a family hiding from bomb shells and the daughter does something cute, but that's it.
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>>110156966
Onward to our noble deaths is one.
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>>110157029
I don't believe you.
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>>110157029
Look, I'm just saying that cute girls in a realistic and depressing war anime is impossible. You'll ruin the mood and atmosphere.
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>>110157127
>taking anime seriously

On the second note, if you are talking about frontlines, I doubt the cute-girl-percent isn't even close to one. If you are talking about homefront I the cute-girl-percent would be higher
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>>110157193
A show about cute war nurses doing cute war nurses things may not be so horrible.
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>>110157235
I'M NOT THE ONE ASKING FOR IT, THE OP IS:
>Is it to much to ask for cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things?
>gritty war drama
These things imply and require seriousness. And you don't get a serious nature with little girls making far noises out of their vaginas.
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such is war
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>>110157257
It'd be Mash 4077. Which I personally like, but not because it was serious.
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>>110157157
Is this Macross?
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>>110157193
>>110157157
Good series needs large funds.
Large funds came from retarded NEETs throwing money at BD or figures.
retarded NEETS only throw money to shows with cute girls.

Therefore, an anime can be good only if it has cute girls.
If you want some depressing war anime without cute girls, you'll have to bear with QUALITY slideshows that may or may not happen.
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>>110157324
Plus
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>>110152710
>>110152512

Who's the artist, can't find it in IQDB and google
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>>110157461
ShindoL
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>>110157441
Welp, put 90gb worth of Macross stuff on download from some god knows torrent.
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>>110148667
>The magazine stands upright, blocking your view
That's for subarashii dualweilding, holding the gun by the magazine with it's trigger down for you to press with your pinky.

>the woodpiece would rot from sitting on the mud
Hah jokes on you it's already rotten.

>and what's the point of a stationary gun with a bayonete
That's obviously a defense mechanism
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>>110157385

Large funds also come from them throwing money at mechs and spaceships. Which is the model most depressing war anime use.
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Try watching more anime. Specifically from the 90s and early 00's.
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>>110156941
>not wanting cute little girls doing cute things in Children's Crusades
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>>110148236
isnt that the one about jesus and buddha in a slice of life
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>>110157726
Do you guys even fucking read? It's okay if you want that, but it's NOT GOING TO BE SERIOUS. YOU CAN'T MAKE IT A GRITTY WAR DRAMA OR HAVE A DEPRESSING THEM! That's what's impossible. Not the act of smashing little girls into spooky events.
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I just want a SOL anime with cute girls in a military infantry squad during peacetime, doing cute things like training exercises
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>>110157783

Saikano managed to have a cute war machine girl as the focus and be horribly depressing.
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>>110157783
>implying children's crusade weren't brutal
>implying you can't have the friends of a cute little girl being slaughtered by their enemies as a war drama
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>>110149408
Ah, hello welfare queen
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>>110157819
I never read Saikano, but it could only go down in three ways:
>it was sad as shit and the girl wasn't actually cute, but was only familiar as a cute archetype
>it was cute and it wasn't actually horribly depressing
>it was some mash 4077 shit where it'd be horribly depressing one moment and cutsie the other

It's like saying you want to watch something that makes you both happy and sad at the same time. A film can make you cry tears of joy one moment and tears of sadness the other, but not both at the same time.
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They are mostly about edo/sengoku Japan.

Which is problematic because Meiji and Taisho period was when Japan was the most badass.
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>>110157784
I'd watch it
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I still want my cute girl Saladin/third crusade anime.
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>>110157678
>mechs plastic model sales
>large funds

Those kind of 'super cool' mechs won't be realistic in your idea of a realistic war anime anyway.
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>>110157538
Can't find any
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>>110149077
someone is butt hurt about their big gubment
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>>110148809
>Now and Then Here and There
This is a top class anime, and if you haven't already watched it, you should.
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>>110150531
fuck you , I loved saving private Ryan.
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>>110150531
Saving private ryan was a somewhat realistic portrayal of war you mongloid. Did you even watch the movie?
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>>110153333
Nuggets because cheap funs, A10 because it's a plane attached to a big ass gun. Understand now?
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>>110151755
I know your pain anon.
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>>110161685
There are plenty of war movies that are far more impressive than saving Private Ryan.
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>>110161685
>>110161875

Even Pearl Harbor was better than that shitty propaganda movie
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>>110158306
Cold War-era Showa period was pretty cool too. WWII-era Showa period was pretty fucked up, what with Unit 731, Rape of Nanking, comfort women, Bataan Death March, etc.
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>>110163755
>first 30 minutes
>shows hundreds of young Americans dying slow and painful deaths
>boys and men crying for mercy
>blood and shit everywhere
>killing of surrendering Germans
>not in any way glorifying war, or promoting propaganda

Do you even know what propaganda means you idiot? go shit post on /pol
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>>110147929
Cause you only watch anime.
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>>110161905
>A-10 because BRRRRRRTTT
FTFY
seriously, it's God's angry cock shooting 30mm death at 3,900 rounds a minute. It goes through Warsaw Pact armor like tissue paper and turns people into soup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk1HU5WShpU
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>>110163755
>Pearl Harbor
You overplayed you bait
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>>110164480
>Gunka no Baltzar
Shit, thank you for reminding me that it exists. I accidentally stopped reading on chapter 8.
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>>110147929
>wasting bullet by shooting one at a time
Get the fuck out
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>>110147929
>Why don't the Americans ever right good and realistic war dramas?
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>>110161875
I did it just frustrates me that he didn't mention it.
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>>110149539
>Marching fire

Brought to you by the (br)asshats who thought infantry charges against embedded MG positions was a good idea.

>after everyone saw how mobile those krauts were with their submachine guns

The marching fire doctrine (set fire selectors to full retard) predates the introduction of the MP-18. The Tommy gun might've too if the establishment hadn't decided Thompson would be more useful NOT developing revolutionary new firearms systems when we got involved in WWI.
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>>110150531
>Usually I leave gritty realistic stuff to the west but they're just as fucking bad about it

Germany and Russia send their regards.
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>>110168016
>watch every episode up to that point
>Ships explode, don't even think about sailors on board
>that fucking episode
Jesus fuck.
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>>110151151
Someone needs to translate the Bittenfeld family creed into German for us.
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>>110151503
>war has become a scripted process

No wonder we haven't won a war since WWII; we actually expect our enemies to follow such asinine scripts!
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>>110168124
German and Russian war films are the tits
>Downfall
>The Beast of War
>Brest Fortress

Worst Korea made a good one with Tae Guk Gi
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>>110168016
Being a sailor in LoGH is basically asking to be assigned to a flying metal death trap in space. I think in an average battle, millions of people die.
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>>110151542
>while flying some obsolete aircraft given by another country

Word is the Finns freakin' LOVED that stuff.
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>>110151406

Usually depends on the terrain.
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>>110168316
Poplan and Konev had it right
>fighter pilots
>shameless drunks and womanizers
>one on one combat
>personal glory
>booze related callsigns
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>>110151698
>M1903
>M50/55
>M16
>M60
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>>110151941
>(complete statement) NOT.

Sure is turn of the '90s in here.
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Soon...
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>>110168448
>one on one combat

My ass. Poplan and Konev never had anything less than 3 valks trying to gangbang them.

Maybe the scrubs like Julian and Katarina sure, but those two were so godly they were worth as much as an admiral's fleet.

The script basically had to reign them in by having one die off screen while the other was never allowed to just shoot the fucking enemy flag ship despite Julian of all people showing you how easy it is to use the empire's ships against them.
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>>110168536
>M16
>Good


Iconic, yes. But "good" ? nope.
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>>110148798
I'm a little late on this, but fuck it.
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>>110147989
>All those lined up Shermans at the end

And was that considered good?
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>>110168694
>Poplan
>Skilled pilot and ace
>hand to hand beast only behind the Rosen Ritter and Mashengo
>relentless poonhound
>Elder God tier alcoholic
Poplan was overpowered
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>>110168695
You seem to have missed the point of the post.
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>>110168833
>Feed system: welfare
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>>110147929

Cat shit one OVA(?) was pretty good excusing the fact they were all animals.
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>>110151553
Real war mostly consists of logistics and other support these days. For one soldier engaging in combat you have hundreds of people working supplies, communications and what-not.
And that's the army.

Now consider the chairforce.
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>>110157127
>and the daughter does something cute

Like fall victim to depredation by war criminals?
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>>110169259
Chair force best force. A-10 a shit though.
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>>110169259
>Now consider the chairforce.
I imagine that being in the U.S. chairforce is pretty damn boring.
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>>110148809

>OP asks for good and realistic war dramas

>spits out a mostly irrelevant list which ranges from the overrated to underwatched, and sci-fi to mecha

You're not helping
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>>110147929
>realistic war dramas
>Is it to much to ask for cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things?
Yeah right, cute girls fight in wars en masse all the time.
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>>110147929
because they are either moe which doesn't work or have an MC that is like
>I have to rescue these random ass people even if I have no chance of winning and ignoring basic orders again
Latest example is Argevollen
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>>110169418
In the 2D universe the population dynamics necessitate it.

They'll certainly have one or two obi-wan-style male soldiers to look up to. Until those die and left to fend on their own of course.
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Mobile Suit Gundam was pretty good at showing what a real war is like. People die, horrible shit happens, and in the end it was all for nothing anyway. Char's counterattack is also good. Oh and fucking 08th MS Team, god damn.
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>>110164570
>It goes through Warsaw Pact armor like tissue paper

Provided that armor is no more modern than the T-55.
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>>110159497
http://blog.naver.com/dutchko
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>>110169537
Why not change the dynamics then?
Or it will fuck up sales?
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>>110169341
>A-10 a shit
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>>110159497
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=862223
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>>110169755
>Oh and fucking War in the Pocket, god damn.

FTFY
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>>110170069
Fuck I forgot about War in the Pocket.
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>>110151151
>A trap is fine too
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There's that webmanwha, after-school war activities or something like that.
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>>110151503
>Politics, money and other factors come into play when the grunts are thrown into the thick of it.
It was like this for a long time. Modern times just added new factors.
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>>110156617
I still think that was a flimsy excuse to have hand-to-hand combat
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>>110168187
The FPA had like 110,000 ships before this campaign.

By the end they can barely muster up 25,000.

And there were like a thousand soldiers on each ship.
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>implying you can't have cute girls and realistic war

Dumb shits watch how it's done.
Imagine the following setting:

The story takes place in some unnamed eastern european shithole post-WWII.
The country comes out of a civil war and is already at odds with its neighbors over border territories.

To compensate for lack of troops anyone who can carry a gun, is between 15 and 55yo and doesn't have an already important job (administration, working in a plant) is thrown into provisional units.

Our characters are a group of 15yo girls who were dropouts and sent to an "operational disposition" unit aka a border outpost guard.

They get drunk, have fun, become lesbians: this is the cute girls part.

Then there are times when the enemy attacks and violence happens and horror too sometimes.

Then afterwards they return to their usual drinking and doing nothing while waiting for the next attack, but some are dead. At the end of the series 1/3 are still alive and they go back home without really knowing what the war was about.
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>>110147929
>Why don't the Japanese ever right good and realistic war dramas?

We're all waiting for the Kantai Collection (KanColle) anime to come out. Let's see a nice Pearl Harbor attack sequence! Then that can be followed up by a Japanese victory at Midway.
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>>110170923
so basically SnW but grimdark
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>>110171079

SnW had barely any war going on, it had retarded mechs and the girls were K-On!-dumb.

In my setting the girls act like you'd expect 1950s 15yo delinquents to act, meaning they are not good people.

But combine that with animu artstyle and their shitty situation and it becomes endearing.
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>>110170923
Why are people so focused on cute girls anyway?
I mean, it's nice, but for me, seeing cute girls everywhere is like eating nothing but bananas, every day until I like it.
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>>110171251
Well sign me up, I love delinquent girls.
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>>110171401

Cute 2D girls is our sustenance.
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>>110171251
I'd watch it, >>110171079 was not meant to be deprecatory
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>>110171401
Because the only thing better than cute girls is seeing cute girls turned into bitter vets.
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>>110171580
>seeing cute girls turned into bloody gibs.
FTFY
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>>110171709
>cute girls operating
ftfy
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>>110148557
full metal jacket, platoon, saving private ryan are the holy trifecta of war drama

I am also interested in a realistic anime war drama, I think it'd be fucking amazing if done correctly.
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>>110171944
You forgot Generation Kill.
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>>110161546

+1

fucking great anime
>>
>you will never see an anime with a standard Shounen MC's fall from grace as a commander in a war scenario
>you'll never see his squad get decimated by the end of the first episode, forcing him to find new recruits
>you won't see him try his hardest to convince those of age, but will have no choice but to use children
>the shotas will never be on the front lines, the lolis as sex slaves
>MC will never have his squad expand into a full-fledged mercenary group, fighting wars in various countries
>MC will never have to sell some of the lolis over to certain corporations that produce and distribute CP in order for his merc business to stay afloat
>certain governments will never have him on their hit-list
>MC will never have to rely on African warlords and other mercenary groups in order to hide from his crimes
>he will never becpublically executed for his war crimes
>ANN and MAL will never praise it as "Like Call of Duty Mixed With Breaking Bad"
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>>110152809
metal gear solid is not good, its shit and you're shit for liking it
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>>110171401
>>110170923
>>110171067
>I mean, it's nice, but for me, seeing cute girls everywhere is like eating nothing but bananas, every day until I like it.

The production committee will keep on stuffing our faces with cute girls because that is what the audience wants as proven by merchandise and license sales. If gritty dark depressing stories were better at earning money, then that is what we'd get.

Now, if you wanted a show with less merchandising influence in the plot, you'd probably have to look for it to be aired on NHK which is taxpayer funded. The privatized TV stations get a cut of merchandising profits in their contracts, so they as members of the production committee will push for screenplays that make the most money.
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>>110172122
Hayter pls.
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>>110171709
Ground into bits is boring, they don't get to cry before they die.

>>110172137
>taxpayer funded
>recent constitutional change
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>>110172183
Why did /v/ even get that upset over his replacement, its not like he was a top-tier VA in the first place.
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>>110172183
kojima is a hack, cant even make a good game since tenchu
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>>110172349
>its not like he was a top-tier VA in the first place.

What's it like not to have a childhood?
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>>110172517
I've only played MGS3 and 4.
Great games, but the voice acting really didn't leave an impression on me.
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>>110172644
>I've only played MGS3 and 4.

Good job ruining a great series for yourself.
I am sad for you. Even if you play MGS1 and 2 now the plot reveals in 4 will have fucked up everything.
Never mind not getting 90% of what is said in 4. Or the implications of what is shown in 3.
Fuck, how can anyone be this retarded? That's like watching the original Star Wars trilogy backwards, starting from the rebel victory and Vader reveal and going to Tatooine.
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>>110172933
S-sorry.
I couldn't find the first and second one back when I first played MGS3.
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>>110173080

He's actually being a huge faggot, not playing 1 or 2 doesn't matter all that much
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>>110172517
My childhood was MG and Snake's Revenge on NES.
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>>110173080
dang, should have emulated, I doubt MGS4 can be enjoyed, plot wise by anyone but the fans.

Anyway not him but related, currently marathoning the 24 series (dubbed thought) and I guess Kiefer might handle it, GZ is hard to judge as he nearly never spoke.
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>>110172644

So you're telling me you played through MGS4 Shadow Moses without going through it in MGS1? You just missed one of the greatest nostalgia moments in the history of video games. I actually had a tear rolling down when the MGS1 codec conversations and the music played as I approached the helipads.
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>>110168016
>kaa-san... cough kaa-san...
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>>110168887
It's good to be overpowered.
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To create a realistic war drama, you have to experience war. And the only such person left in the anime industry is Leiji Matsumoto. If we can still count him as a part of the industry.
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>>110173897
Just hire chair specialists. They're cheap.
Add some pantyshots here and there, add tits, add grain filter, boom, done.
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>>110173897
Older anime/manga had a lot of realistic war dramas but since the only army Japan has is a self-defense force not so much
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>>110174029
Oh and add brown tint for extra realism.
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>>110174100
And don't forget overuse bloom, it makes everything look extra realistic.
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>>110174087
>Older anime/manga had a lot of realistic war dramas but since the only army Japan has is a self-defense force not so much
>but since the only army Japan has is a self-defense force not so much

Anime didn't exist until after WWII you dumb shit.
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>>110174371
and many veterans were still in the industry back then.
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>>110174371
>Anime didn't exist until after WWII you dumb shit.

I bet that you believe that Tezuka invented animu&mango.
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>>110174371
I think he means all the people in the industry who were former members of japans military were still alive.
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>>110174371
Japan made their own cartoons way before WWII. Those are, per definition, anime.
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>>110174431

Reread the statement made:
>Older anime/manga had a lot of realistic war dramas but since the only army Japan has is a self-defense force not so much

No anime was ever made before Japan got stuck with the Self Defense Force. That statement is retarded.
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>>110174673
Yeah I kinda fucked up on the writing there.
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>>110174514
>>110174468

Propaganda and minute-long experimental cinema cartoons don't count as anime.
MAYBE Kumo to Tulip counts as one.
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>>110172122
/v/ pls go
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>>110172349
not really a matter of >>110172349
top notch but his voice was very iconic, Soild snake was fucking named after him.
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>>110147929
>right
Really?
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>>110148470
What's the point of the bayonet?
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>>110147929
You can't shock the little Japanese
But I think it would be a great thing to try
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCHbF9lG3lE
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>>110177351
>Dresde

Good job Allies. Nice show.
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>>110177559
You haven't seen averything

SOL of some German little girls living in dresden in 1944/45
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>>110177559
You can only blame yourselves for getting involved with that Austrian shitcunt.
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>>110177628
I would exults in front such a spectacle
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Still waiting for my girls und das boot anime. You know this would be the best thing ever.
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>>110177652
Warcrime apologist detected. The other party starting an unjust war doesn't excuse you from doing warcrimes yourself.
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>>110177858
it's only a war crime if you lose, faggot

for the winner it's just basic necessity in order to avoid even more casualties.
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>>110168887
He had to be. Bittenfeld was killing every superstar of the FPA left and right.
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>>110170732
Truly the MVP of the empire. Not even Kircheis could have done so much if he lived.
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>>110178003
>it's only a war crime if you lose, faggot
How eloquent. In what part of the Geneva convention does it say that? Whether people are punished for them or not, war crimes are war crimes.
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>>110178110
In the part that allows the Siegerjustiz, vae victis behavior and gives the great powers the right to use the Geneva conventions as glorified toilet paper.
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>>110177276
The point.
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>>110178255
Read my post again. Just because large powers can get away with it completely, does not mean that they don't commit war crimes.
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>>110178003
>"for the winner it's just basic necessity in order to avoid even more casualties."

>completely destroying one of the largest cities of a country and all of its civilians in the most murderous air raid of all time

The Allies could have targeted the strategic targets like the ball-bearing factories, but apparently killing absolutely everyone was a better choice.

>the US Air Force killed far more French civilians than the Germans ever did

My French grandmother saw her friends die to American bombs in St Nazaire. She lived because Germans actually saved civilians by taking them inside shelters.

You know the worst? Americans massacred St-Nazaire AND NEVER DAMAGED THE U-BOOT BASE
THEY ACTUALLY STARTED RAZING THE CITY ITSELF AND ITS PEOPLE WHEN THEY REALIZED THEY COULDN'T DO SHIT TO THE U-BOOT PENS

And the fucking murderers who ordered this were never trialed.
Because killing thousands of civilians in an Allied country out of spite that you can't achieve your original objective is perfectly honorable.

God bless America.
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>>110172055
After War Gundam X seems close.
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>>110178255
Hate runs deep and lurks below for centuries to come, as conflicts like the hundreds of years long Alsace-Lothringia one shows. It surfaces every now and then, when people like you give the warmongerers amongst each nation an excuse to break loose the hounds of war.

The nationalist German parties like the NPD are already using the Allied bombings as an excuse to facilitate anti-American hate. Should they ever come to power again, your disregard, your unwillingness to face history will lead to needless victims - and even if THEY don't, somebody else might, for the issue won't be resolved by ignoring it.

The Americans have gotten away with it for seven decades, but what are seven decades in the face of history? There'll be lots of opportunities to instrumentalize this war crime.
An apology is absolutely necessary to prevent the seed of hate from blooming.
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>>110178634
To be fair, it's not quite that simple. Back in those days the best way to destroy large targets (factories etc) from the air was to carpet bomb fucking everything around them because bombing was so inaccurate.
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>>110178634
o7 god bless carpet freedom bombing

#zerofucksgiven
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>>110151691
this, so much this
Imagine a cute DFC version of Ray and a Yandere Trombley
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>>110148008
I liked the show a lot but they needed to go all the way with it.

Actually, I'd love to see Yura join the French Foreign Legion or something so we can see some real war drama.
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>>110178928

The Allies specifically aimed at destroying all of Dresden.
They wiped out the city center which was full of civilians and the outskirts with the factories were actually less damaged.

They firebombed a civilian city when it is known that anything weaker than 100kg HE bombs has no chance of damaging heavy machinery factories.

Dresden was destroyed as a morale-breaking action.
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>>110179308
Yeah I know. I was just pointing out that a lot of civilian casualties were a result of the inaccuracy of bombing. Those in Dresden, were not.
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Killing civilians is best tactic to kill morale in enemy army
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War is war.
Horrible things are going to be done by everyone involved. It's something you just have to accept.
The only thing you can do is try to see past the propaganda and other assorted bullshit and see things for what they are rather than GREAT HEROES FIGHTING SATAN.
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Cute girls doing combined arms war games when?
>CO-chan, firescout 1 reports BDA for contact ship 4328 is very dead!
>nice jobbu weapons officer-san, ice cream for everyone after this
>wah, 20 new contacts designated 5123 to 5143 bearing 213 range 11000, low, closing on us at 550, doushio~?
>intercept! turn on automated mode
>it's too late, it can't illuminate them all quick enough
>uwa, this sucks, if only I got into the chair force instead
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>>110179265
That looks like airsoft

schwackity wackity doo
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>>110151941
>Chechnya

I guess that's a problem for knuckle-draggers like the Russians. 'murricans can phone for point-blank artillery accurate to within a meter, or a GPS guided bomb.
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>>110179473

I laughed louder than I should have.
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>>110179308
Perfectly acceptable course of action when the goal is to break enemy's morale, disturb their economy and communications&supply networks,
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>>110149408
>Cav scout
My Niggah! Are you still in? I was medically retired last year. It's always fun to met anons irl. Had a few in my first unit in 1st Cav.
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>>110153870
Are those FAMAS's?
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>>110179908
>almost reply with disdain
>they actually ARE Famas

wow
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>>110179969
FAMAS has that nice futuristic look.
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Make an anime about two sides of the war. One features a male Japanese Kamikaze pilot. Another one features a female Soviet sniper. You have your obligatory generic Japanese MC to fill quota and a cute girl as FeMC.
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>>110170732
FPA FPA FPA FPA FPA FPA FPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRI5eWWZIpo
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>>110148809
OI! noice post matey!
>Jin Roh
>GITS SAC
Muh nigga!

Yeah, there are gun nuts in Japan, but as far as I know, they are seen as freaks, in muhrica they could be labeled as gun aficionados.

Even so, there are many works with the thesis of the hopelessness and sense of loss that sustained conflict inflicts on the characters

On the action heavy side, the animation based on cat shit one.
>>110148008
for a girly club anime, it provided details on the guns.
>>110151549
Jormungand, Koko is one of the major Gunnuts in anime (well, it has everything to do with her line of work)

I liked a lot the episode in which Koko's squad confronts a Seal team
>>110157692
Patlabor 2.... I still watch it from time to time.
>
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>>110147929
>Realistic
That's not anything like my animus
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>>110179308
>Dresden was destroyed as a morale-breaking action.

Thats only half right.
they fire bombed the civilians because it was easier to drive them out and kill them then it is to destroy factories, and they cant churn out guns and ammo if they arent manned.
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You cannot make realistic depictions of war entertainment because war is not entertaining.
War is terrible. That is just the bottom line.
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mfw there will never be a Band of Brothers/Saving Private Ryan type anime with cute girls.
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>>110180489
>Rito is real and female
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>>110180504
You can make a good balance. Band of Brothers, The Pacific, and Generation Kill all had a good mix of realism and entertainment. I enjoyed them.
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>Japan is in a total war with China/aliens/whatever
>Several years of fighting and high casualties
>Morale is at an all-time low
>Government sends a high-school idol group to the frontlines to boost morale
>Gives them basic training just in case the worst happens
>The worst happens and they have to fight
>A couple of the girls and one of the girl's soldier love interests die

Award-winning anime right here.
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>>110181430
>self-insert MC dies episode two
>remaining eleven episodes are twenty-three minutes of solid blackness with no audio
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>>110179468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-K541xQYss
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>>110181514
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Pick one studio to adapt All Quiet on the Western Front
With the group shitting scenes and all
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>>110181603
>group shitting scenes
Xebec
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>>110181603
Sounds perfect for Xebec.
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>>110181514
It's edgy to acknowledge war as something bad?
Well okay then.
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I've always wanted a good war LN. Or VN.

Damn it, would totally write one myself if I could find the resources and staff.
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>>110182491
What sort of resources could you possibly need to write a story?
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>>110182631

Some proofreaders to get feedback, and people to bounce ideas off of.

I've done a lot of writing similar to this, and what always happens is one of my co-authors flakes out and I'm left with a framework of a story, but the details left undone.

Artists are always nice too. Lets you actually see your work and see if you're doing things right with your descriptive writing.
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>>110177838
Girls und das beer boot?`
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>>110178110
>Geneva convention
>followed
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>>110182751
You're never going to get anywhere in writing. Not because of a lack of staff, but because you hide behind excuses. You lack the talent to stand on your own feet. I hope you spend the rest of your life thinking "if only I had this" or "I could do that" only to realize on your deathbed that you wasted your life daydreaming.
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>>110183050

Most likely. I've already tried this shit 3 or 4 times. Though to be honest, I want to get back to writing now.

Thanks anon. Maybe I can prove you wrong someday.
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>Syria pls stawp war bombs bad
>Sudan p-pls stop killing your civilians pls
>Ukraine pls no more manpads
>Iraq pls no sectarian conflict
>Israel pls stawp palestine slaughter is not best day of your life

And that's just the "big" things right now.
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>>110183424
Now we just need Nork saber rattling and US "liberating" another Middle-Eastern shithole without UN's blessings.
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>>110179473
>War
>Games

No. I want otaku to watch little girls die horrible fucking deaths, because they think they can act like cute cunts during a firefight.
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>>110184189

>Najaf Iraq
>Black Water girls station on top of a roof
>Spotter asks what Sniper had for lunch today
>Sniper looks away from scope, shows MRE to Spotter
>Spotter raises head to read MRE label better
>Gets shot
>Lifeless corpse falls off ledge and plummets 3 stories.
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>>110184658
>implying sand niggers can aim
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>>110184713

Would total watch a Rhodesian Conflict anime.
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>>110179535
>Perfectly acceptable course of action when the goal is to break enemy's morale
The Middle Ages called. They want their executioners back to spike up some heads of women and children to break someone's morale.
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>>110185128
Boko Haram called, they wanted you to know that that stuff is still in fashion.
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>>110185312
Terror organizations are not suitable role models for nations.
Neither are the Middle Ages' morality systems.

Murrica, please...
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>>110185406
Gooby pls they're going to join the caliphate of the Islamic state soon.
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>>110170670
It does make sense thought. Same thing with Sidonia, where they use swords and arrows inside the ship.
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>>110186009

Firearms hitting compressed gas tanks? Though to be honest, there'd be a better way to get around that problem.
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>>110156617
>They said that if they used their laser guns the the particles around them would ignite everything and kill them

Why don't they fucking use powder-less guns or arrow based weapons then?
You know, chinese were already using repeater crossbows a long-ass time ago.
Take a modern auto-crossbow, make it fire high velocity bolts with composite-rigid heads. Bam.
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>>110186439
No, bullets do not make conveniently placed and helpfully coloured red barrels full of fuel explode when shot at, especially not from "sparks" because "metal grinding against metal". It's like nobody has ever heard of air guns or tried shooting the enemy in the head with a bolt or tried to make a frictionless coilgun.
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>>110154179
Not Really.

0080 basically takes place towards the end of the 1 year war from the original Gundam Series.
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>>110173174
Not him, but.
Literally 70% of the shit that does on in 4 is a callback to the earlier game. The whole Return to Shadow Moses scene would be worthless if you don't remember anything.
Same goes for Screaming Mantis fight, and Akiba; the nods to series fans mean nothing and probablt looked out of place if you hadn't played Solid 1.
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>>110188210

100% of the plot of MGS4 won't make sense if you didn't play all the major earlier games to begin with, and if you don't care about plot in MG there's no reason to play.
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