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Why is everyone so hung up on loli Shinobu when woman Shinobu is the embodiment of sex?
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God damn, how could any choose a disgusting flat chest over this blood goddess?
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Teen a best
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I love all Shinobus equally. She is truly the best.
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OPPAI
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Perhaps they'll understand when Kizu comes out

So basically, never
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>Not teen
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That's not Shinobu, that's Kiss Shot. If you read Kizu, you'd know the difference.

The answer to your question is muh loli.
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>>109745862
>2014
>not being teenage Shinobu master race
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I like this thread.
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All of them are perfect. The most important thing is winning the monogatari.
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Kiss-Shot = Shinobu > Teenage whatever
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>>109746085

and if you read Kizu, you'd know there's absolutely no difference. It's just a name.
In Onimonogatari, she mentions to Araragi that she's getting stronger with every time he gives her blood, back to her old ways.
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>>109746506
>you'd know there's absolutely no difference. It's just a name.

>In Onimonogatari, she mentions to Araragi that she's getting stronger with every time he gives her blood, back to her old ways.

You literally contradict yourself in the same post.
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Lamu's much better anyway
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Kiss shot looks better but shinobu overall is a lot more fun.

Kizu fucking when?
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>>109745862
because by the time you see vampire obasan you've seen monkey, hornet, and crab

tight>plump
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They're both good.

Why is kyomi such a faggot fuckhead?
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>>109746058
>>109745890
>side ponytail
>manface
>best
Ka ka.
Busty tittymonster da best.
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>>109746597
>quotes manface
>post picture of a manface kiss shot
>tittymonster
>obvious bait
And yet I still reply
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Middle school shinobu > rest
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>>109746566
Shinobu comes off as too arrogant for me. The more she opened her mouth from Nise onward, the less I liked her. Kizu in 2020 hand-drawn, 60 fps.
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>>109746597
that picture makes her look like cross dressing spike
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>>109746838
Is that a dick?
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Tfw when 1358 shinobu pics ripped from gelbooru and filtered.

Where do i go now? Webms and screencaps is all I can think of.

>>109746894
Bandaid
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>>109746894
Looks like someone hit an axe in between her legs. That's not what a vagina looks like.
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>>109745862
>>109745879
Finally someone who can appreciate a real woman
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Also can someone give a pastebin for the ln summaries?
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Every Shinobu is best SHinobu
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When will crab lose?
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>>109745862
I like all shinobu, just loli form best
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>>109746542

No I don't. I don't think I do, anyway.
I'm saying Shinobu is Kiss-Shot, Kiss-shot is Shinobu. A vampire fallen from grace to become little more than a familiar through the loss of her powers, which she can EASILY regain if given the opportunity.
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>>109745862
Shinobu is perfection in all her forms.
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>>109747015
Like you would know what a vagina is supposed to lool like. ZING!

I'll be here all week.
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>>109747073
Then why not post a pic with every Shinobu?
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She's the best. I wonder if the /c/ thread from last month is still alive
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17 > 27 > 18 >12 > 8 > 10
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>>109747224
I can't wait to see short-haired loli Kiss Shot.
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>>109745862
Because Shinobu is a loli and the adult version is Kiss-shot?
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For people who read the translated Kizu but also know runes, was she actually using the equivalent of archaic, medieval Japanese?

It feels really fucking weird to have this Tokyo setting and a vampire saying things like 'thou speaketh'.
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>>109747179
Shinobu is no longer a vampire. She's a vampire-like pseudohuman and Ararararagi's a human-like pseudovampire.

Shinobu is not Kiss-Shot. Kiss-Shot was the vampire and the vampire does not currently exist.
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>>109747410
Yes, or at least, a way archaic speech is represented in modern fiction.
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Best shinobu
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>>109747310
17 = 27 = 18 = 12 = 8 = 10
The only answer if you truly love her.

>>109747410
Yes. It's been a while since she came to Japan, after all...
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>>109747134
when she dies along with everyone else who isn't immortal.
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>>109747338
What?
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>>109747316
>Short hair
Fucking why
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Moar
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>>109747636
Is Araragi even immortal, though? I thought they were intentionally vague on that.
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>>109747721
>not liking short hair
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>>109747785
He's got superhuman healing powers etc. and the more of his blood Shinobu drinks the closer to a vampire he gets.
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>>109747820
Short hair is awesome, but not on Shinobu. Half of her character is the flowing golden locks.
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>>109747316
>more short hair
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She is good in all forms especially thanks to Maaya Sakamoto.
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>>109747915
But he can't shapeshift or mind-control or anything, so immortality might be another power he missed out on.
If so, then the healing would actually be shortening his lifespan if anything...
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>>109748006
no OP
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>no blue eyes shinobu

;_;
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>>109745862
Kizu released yet?

Well, there's your answer.
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>>109747462
Sounds like dodgy name usage there.

Like Araragi was a human's name. The human doesn't exist. So Araragi isn't Araragi.
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>>109747337
best Shinobu.
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Arahow do you like them apples?
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>Are you an Italian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eOefd87-rk
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>>109747316
That can't be her. Nope.
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>>109748057
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>>109745890
>>109747587
/thread
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>>109748332
Italians don't randomly kiss lolis.
those people are from Yemen
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>>109748354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-wCsux5UDA
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>>109745862
Because Kizufuckingwhen?
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>Those possibly silky over-elbow gloves
>That dress

I want to cuddle Kiss-Shot!
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>>109748607
>Release TBA 2013.
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>>109748577
I was thinking maybe they meant or should have said french, for french kiss.
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>>109748039
>If so, then the healing would actually be shortening his lifespan if anything...
Nah. It's been stated by none other than Shinobu that Araragi will outlive all of his family and friends except for the loli vampire herself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVqg_dQL7Ps
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>>109747316
>Implying we will ever get to see Kizu
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>>109748191
No. Kiss-Shot was the very specific name of a very specific being. Once that being ceased to exist, the name lost its purpose. Kiss-Shot no longer exists. Think of it less like an individual's name and more like the name of a species. If humans were to transform into cyborgs, they'd still exist, but humans themselves would disappear from the universe.
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>>109745862
Tits are way too big. I'm not one of those flat chest only guys but there's a limit. And when they're bigger than her head you've passed that limit.
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>>109748909
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>>109748796
>no band aid
Disgusting
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>>109745862
Because the loli Shinobu is the embodiment of sex.

Because the teenage Shinobu is the embodiment of sex.
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>>109748979
I know, but you can't always get what you want.
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>>109748909
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>>109748796
She said she didn't know and just speculated that he might.
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Guys, I know this is a shinobu thread, but what's up with Tsukihi? She's not exactly a Phoenix right?
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>>109746056
I'm pretty sure the difference was already explained in Bakemonogatari.

They explained Oshino gave her that name or whatever to replace her old one if I remember correctly.

I and likely others are just too lazy to call her anything but Shinobu despite whatever form is being discussed.
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>>109749126
She's not technically human, but it doesn't matter to Ararararagi-san because she's always been his little sister. Or something.
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>>109749126
I never got that, she's the pheonix but that doesn't really mean much. I don't get why she was such a threat and why they had to come and fuck her up.
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>>109749126
She gets reborn into an unborn child whenever she dies, killing that unborn child and taking its place.Cycling death and rebirth like that makes her easily compared to a pheonix
She still a cute and harmless little sister, though, so no one cares.
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>>109748861
I don't think you're wrong. But damn that's some Chuuni-level special snowflake shit.
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>>109749707
I mean, she technically aborted a fetus in order to take its place right?

Maybe that specialist was just REALLY pro-life?
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>>109749707
Read Kizu, some people REALLY hate oddities.
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>>109749126
She's a sort of supernatural, immortal cuckoo. A human woman gives birth to it, but it's just mimicking a human (and believes itself to be human) and after it lives out its lifespan, it'll be reborn from another human mother. It regenerates so it can't be killed by injury, but it can exterminated supernaturally.
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>>109749810
>Chuuni-level
hurrrrr RED BARON hurrrr
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>>109748730
No, they meant Italian and they shouldn't have used anything else.
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>>109749855
I did, episode was pretty great. But I don't see whatever her name is and zombie really trying to kill Tsukihi because they hate oddities. Hell they kind of just up and left after araragi gave them the "She's still my sister!" stuff.
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>>109749994
I thought someone just hired them to do it.
It's been a while since I've seen it, though...
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>>109749795
>>109749846
I don't think it kills a fetus.
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>>109749885
The irony is that I had to look that up, while you already knew it.
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So in what ways can Tsukihi die? Just supernaturally?
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>>109750072
No, it definitely does.

Are you familiar with a cuckoo bird? It lays it's egg in another bird's nest, that egg hatches first and pushes out the other eggs.

Same concept, applies to human women instead of birds nests.
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>>109747316
Why does the company that makes the bakemonogatari series think that when a character changes their hair most change too?
Please stop with this short hair shit :(
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>>>/c/
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>>109750176
Source it from the anime or book and I'll believe you.
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>>109750193
>:(
Please die.

Also, Shaft didn't write the source material. Nisio did. Someone post the image.
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>>109750144
In Owari 3 Ougi tries to kill her by making her know what she is, but wasn't making much progress and gets interrupted.
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Sure is summer in here.
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>>109750248
I'm cool with some of them having short hair, but now almost everyone does.
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>>109747587
this
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>>109750248
>don't use emojis in muh secret board XDD

fuck off cancer
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>>109750519
>muh secret club meme
>emojis
Go back to reddit.
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>>109750519
This is an imageboard, if you're going to post an emote, you could easily just post a picture instead and it would be a significantly better post.
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Lolis are superior to nondescript obasans, and eternal lolis are best lolis. Hence, loli Shinobu is superior.

Math.
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>>109750304
I want to sniff Shinobu's butt.
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>>109750519
No, you are the cancer. Adapt or fuck off. We won't act according to your shitty needs.
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>>109750296
yfw Tsukihi has a commentary with ougi in Koimonogatari's BD
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>>109750612
Who doesn't?
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>>109750681
Ougi is pretty great.
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Titty monsters please leave.
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>>109750789
Stay ple dophile.
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>>109750731
she is indeed
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>>109748909
homosexual pls go
and stay go
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>>109751370
Gladly

Pedo>teleio
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>>109750519

No faggot, this is an image board not some bullshit forum. Adapt or fuck off.
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>>109751618
/tv/ please, go and stay.
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>>109751641
The proper thing to do is wait until the guy fucks up some post, and while you're taking his argument to bits add in "Oh you're an emo-fag too leave" at some point.

Otherwise you sound like a retard "Oh shit I'm not fitting in better attack everything I see so I'm in the 'in' group."
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>>109751760

Actually I made that because I suddenly found the idea of making a 5000x5000 picture (in .png naturally) of :( hilarious.

My sense of humor is weird some time.
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>>109751717
How do you know he's from /tv/?
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>>109751887
Yeah cause I'm not, I think american shows are shit but that doesn't stop me from being a pedophile.
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>>109751887
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>>109751972
>>109751887
So how's your first week on 4chan going?
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>>109752063
Yeah, I forgot you could identify people from /tv/ from them being pedos. I've been associating them exclusively with Baneposting lately.
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>>109752063
Don't know about the other guy you're responding to but I'm just sick and tired of people conflating pedophiles with people from /tv/, some of us pedophiles actually have taste.
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>>109752152
>>109751972
Does this guy's sentences annoy anyone else?
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Can't you like all of them?
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>>109752362
Well I'll at least have you know that "this guy" is two different people.
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>>109752457
Okay so we have one pedo and one newfag.
Great. Can we go back to discussing bat now?
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>y-you can't be into loli and still post on /a/!

Teen a best. Milf an okay. Loli a daughteru.
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>>109752584
Yes.
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>>109752763
>Glasses Shinobu
When did that happen and why haven't I fapped to it yet?
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>>109753083
inb4 cat a shit
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>>109751760
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>109753146
Cat shit
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>>109753094
Mayoi Jiangshi Part Two, in the second season.
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>>109753094
You are a horrible person.

About as bad as the haircut faggots.
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>>109752584
she's kawaii~
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>>109753146
Best body.
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>>109745862
>old hag
>sexy
pick one.
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>>109753347
why doesn't hanekawa ever look like that. She should have the same body.
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>>109753379
She has every possible great body at once, thereby transcending the concept of having the best body.
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Should I watch the recap episodes in SS?
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>>109753558
They have the same body. Black Hanekawa just strikes more slutty poses.
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>>109753634
Watch no recaps.
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>>109753347
>>109753656
>Sullying best girl thread with shit
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One thing I like about Kiss-shot is that she actually looks physically intimidating, although maybe that's due to Koyomi being a teenager. The exposed shoulders also help. Fuck, I think I have a shoulder fetish.

How tall is she supposed to be?

And what the fuck kind of name is "Kiss-shot Acerola-orion Heart-under-blade"?
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>>109752584


yeas, yes we can
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>>109753727
Batfag being obnoxious. Color me surprised.

>>109753782
A Nisio kind of name.
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>>109753782
I name drenched in puns
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no particular opinion, just wanna dump.
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>>109753558
It's one of those Clark Kent vs. Superman thing, wherein body language can do wonders.
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>>109753782
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Vampire should try to be more like cat
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>>109753956
>>109753895
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Because Shinobu =/= Kissshot

They made it a point that she changed so much after Kizu and her bond/relationship with Arararagi that she's essentially a different person. Which is a lot to say for a near god who's lived 600 years.
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>>109753956
>>109754026
>>109753895
>>109753959

like a slut?
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>>109754026
>signature
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>>109754078
Ladylike
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>>109747721
>>109747947
>>109748354
>>109748607
>>109748829
>>109750193
She has short hair because she progresses through many different ages due to her becoming more complete as the story progresses. It's only a short time she has short hair so why complain about something you don't know?
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>>109753782

I admit I'm not sure if kiss-shot actually is a reference to anything in particular.
Acerola = a type of cherry
Orion = also known as the hunter, constellation
Heart-under-blade = ?, pronounced "shinobu", literally depicts a heart under a blade
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>>109754064
>600 years.
598 and 11 months
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>>109754122
Two of those quotes are not like the others.
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>>109754064

After that time travel in the Mayoi arc she seemed to develop a lot, too.

Hell, she's more normal, stable and "human" than a lot of the humans in the cast now.
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>>109754078
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>>109754214
I know they aren't but I just kind of mass quoted because I didn't give a shit.
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Did Shinobu ever turned into some MILF form with even bigger tits?
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>>109754142
She is obviously a cherry hunter.
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>>109754261


fucking wow.
wut.
boner intensifies
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>>109754142
Don't know why, but "heart-under-blade" is one coolass name
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>>109754423
first part
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>>109753943
Thanks Anon, that's pretty useful. And damn, Bee is tall in comparison to the others.

>>109754142
The Heart-under-blade part is such an obvious back-formation from Shinobu. It's so ridiculous that it's like it's not even trying, and luckily the whole name ends up being pretty fun to say.
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>>109754381

>she stole Arararagi's virginity to help him train before his night with Gahara

http://exhentai.org/g/502411/7c3a386da1/
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>>109753943
so by height
Kisshot>Oshino>Bee>Crab=Araragi>Monkey>Cat>Phoenix>Snake>Snail>Shinobu
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>>109754592
>>109754381
Please tell me there are doujins about 8 years old Shinobu raping 7 years old Araragi.
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I don't know where to get this information, so I'll ask: what is the next BD to come out? I like to see all the changes Shaft makes in those releases, and I really want to see what they do to Hitagi End.
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>>109754489
I like the name Heart-under-blade, though. It sounds threatening, like she's always got a knife held up to your chest or something.
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>>109754894
how about trying the official website?
http://www.monogatari-series.com/2ndseason/

Koi BD Vol1.: June 25
Koi BD Vol2.: July 23
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>>109754899
To me it sounds like she lives a life of conflict and violence.
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>>109754899
>Kisshot Aceloli Heart Under teen
was the name snail gave her in the audio commentaries
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>>109754899
More like she's concealing her vulnerabilities behind a harsh exterior.

So she's a tsundere?
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>>109755197
More like 'You'll be cut to ribbons before you ever understand her.'
Such are the Sidhe...
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>>109754847
Not that I remember, and I've spent a lot of time looking for Shinobu doujins. I personally enjoy the ones where she and Araragi get stuck in a feedback loop from sharing sensations and fuck nonstop for days.
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Does anybody besides me think there was a noticeable dip in quality between Karen Bee and Tsukihi Phoenix?
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Personally I just like lolis best
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>>109755543
How? Sure, Tsukihi wasn't quite as in the spotlight as Karen was in her arc, but you still had the legendary toothbrush scene as well as the finale, which is still probably my favorite episode.
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>>109755585
good taste
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>>109755543
Can't blame the crew for having bum wrists after the toothbrush scene.
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>>109755656
Oh, you mean that the other "fight" where he just gets his shit kicked in but the problem is resolved
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>>109755656
I don't know. I didn't like those two characters in Phoenix, and I just wasn't as interested in general. A large part of it is that Karen is superior to Tsukihi.
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>>109755656
I liked the karen arc more but i must admit the nise finale was superb. Probably the best episode in the franchise
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>>109755797
The fight scene was nice but I'm thinking more of the unconditional love pouring out of every orifice for that episode.
>Would you die for me?
>Of course.
>No hesitation.
>No questions about what the fuck he's talking about.
Then after Araragi was beaten to a bloody pulp and Kagenui was asking for a final round with Shinobu, she laughs in Kagenui's face at the prospect of her partner being done fighting and stands there unflinching while Araragi pulls himself up.
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>>109756199
I'd imagine thats fairly easy to say when you pretty much can't die
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>>109756305
But Araragi can die, and Kagenui is capable of killing him. She beat him to the brink of death and stopped. He also feels the full effects of pain as well. How many fuckers are going to stand up again if they just got Temple of Doom'd even if they survived the process?
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>>109755868
You would have thought Tsukihi was equal to Karen only if Shaft never took out all of Tsukihi's scenes from Neko.

Shaft really fucked up when adapting the second season.
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>>109754270
Edgy.
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>>109754899
it just sounds like typical dumb engrish japs use
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>>109757396
Jack actually sounds more like Jaques than anything.
And I think he meant how 90% of the time it's just Chuuni nonsense.
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>>109756305
"I would die for you again and again, like an immortal dracula, until I died for good."

Dying for someone as a vampire is actually even more hardcore than dying for them as a human.
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>>109757642
>quantity > quality
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>>109757736
It's the same end result, it just hurts more.

It's the difference between

>I would take a bullet for you

and

>I would have my entire body consumed by flames for hours for you

Some things just hurt more.
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>>109757736
Those were some pretty quality deaths there.
>Getting his heart crushed.
>Getting punched through a concrete roof.
>Having his face caved in.
>Even more in the LN.
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>>109749036
This image is dangerous, anon.
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>>109757891
I like playing with fire.
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>>109745862
>>109745879
>>109745890
>Not liking all forms
You seriously need to question the way you're living your lives.

>>109745981
Now this person has reached a point in life where they can feel fully satisfied with themselves.
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>>109758019
My enlightened brother.
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>>109758008
I like you, anon.
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>>109757601
>jaques
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExIMij8Mjo&feature=kp
You're right
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>is into blu-rays
>want to get into series
>monogatari blu-rays cost about 60 bucks
>only 4 episodes on them

you think their might be a chance a complete collection blu-ray coming out
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>>109758657
Literally the first results for any reasonable search on google. They're around $150.
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>>109758657
Why don't you just get the aniplex releases?
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>>109759941

>As is established by EA, most of their buyers are fags.
>As is established by Jezebel, most of its readers are feminazis.
>As is established by deviantart, most people there are sexual deviants.

water is wet people
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>>109760092
Do you think that, if we were all fish, water would still be wet?
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>>109745862
Get out, old ass hag.
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>>109760209
How Can Water Be Real If Fish Aren't Real?
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>>109753943
Is Araragi seriously 5 foot 4? Holy shit hes a midget.
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>>109745862
most people on /a/ are closet pedophiles, I thought this was common knowledge?
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>>109760323
They prefer the term "Japanese".
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>>109760323
Yes. He's a manlet. Both his little sister and girlfriend are taller than him.
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>>109760361
Even by Japanese standards that is just sad. I feel sorry for him.
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Kizu when?
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>>109760361
>>109760380
>>109760427
Araragi could be any height he wanted to be if he became full vampire.
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>>109760355
Correction: most men are closet pedophiles
Most are just too afraid to be judged by society and friends. They're also afraid of the law.
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>>109760538
Well, trees ARE pretty tall.
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>>109760585
Oh god. I forgot all about his "I want to be a plant" bullshit in Kizu.
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>>109746506
she doesn't keep the strength though. it's like a temporary power up, but the more blood she drinks from him the more she wants.
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>>109760638
I thought it was the more blood she drinks from Araragi the closer he gets to being a true vampire.
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Adult Shinobu is pretty hot, but she's in no way an embodiment of sex.
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>>109747028
>dat shinobu story
one of the best anime scenes
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>>109760674
Then he takes it back. Alternatively, he could provide her with less.
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>>109760695
Get a load of this pleb.

>>109760759
I'm pretty sure this is one of the big plot points later in the series and why Gaen steps in and tries to separate the two. Maybe all of the spoilers have just been lying to me though.
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>>109747015
tilt your screen, it's the outline of a band-aide
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>>109761436
Dissapointment
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MILF a best.
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>>109762945
>Being disappointed with a good image of this miracle of the universe.
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>>109753347
Did Hanekawa became bisexual once she merged with the spirit of the male cat?
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>>109763784
Probably not.
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>>109763139
But she's not... Oh whatever!
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>>109764694
>No spoiler
You are brave anon.
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Why is Shinobu always so sexy?
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>>109764843
Inhuman beauty is one of her abilities.
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I feel like reading Kizu again seeing as we won't be getting the movie anytime soon.
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>>109747316
SHORT HAIR ACTUALLY LOOKS BETTER THAN LONG HAIR, GOOD CALL TIER
Cat
Phoenix

LOOKED A LOT BETTER WITH LONG HAIR TIER
Crab

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO YOURSELF TIER
Bee

YOU DON'T EVEN LOOK LIKE A FEMALE WITH SHORT HAIR TIER
Shinobu
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>>109760209
Fish here, can confirm that water is wet.
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>>109764832
It doesn't count as porn if it's just a nipple, r-right?

>>109765126
Am I the only one bothered that Cat and Crab decided to cut their hair short AT THE SAME TIME? Anyway, Phoenix is debatable, imo.
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>>109765392
>Am I the only one bothered that Cat and Crab decided to cut their hair short AT THE SAME TIME?
Considering Hitagi did it in imitation of Tsubasa, I'd hope so.
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>>109765449
But why?
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>>109765392
Well, some janitor deleted a bunch of similar images in this thread. Didn't give out any bans though, so whatever.
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>>109765494
They were trying to cockblock each other
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>>109765532
That's stupid, but in a way in which it's believable for women to do.
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>>109755022
>Having to wait until the end of the month to get the Kaiki version of the Koi OP

The Senjougahara version is good, but not good enough.
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>>109754245
Her smiling and laughing with Araragi in that arc almost made my heart explode
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>>109760569
most men do not find pre-pubscent bodies attractive.
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>>109766056
Fuck off. We're not having the pedo argument here.
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>>109766252
What? Are you actually implying there's an argument here? Are you actually saying most men are NOT attracted to naturally larger tits and ass, as opposed to smaller or essentially non existant ones?
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Why not both

http://exhentai.org/g/470898/be60e76ad8/
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>>109766283
And you're trying to say most men are NOT attracted to flawless skin and youthful features.
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>>109766283
I can't tell if you're a newfag or a really shitty troll.
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>>109766481
Maybe he's just a shitty person
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>>109766450
They're on average far more attracted to actual T&A then skin and youthful features.

pre-pubscent chidlren by definition have no T&A and may or may not have "flawless" skin and youthful features

as opposed to post-puberty women who will (generally) have T&A as well as may have flawless skin & youthful features to boot!
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>>109766524
>>109766450
>Actually trying to have the argument again.
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>>109766595
There's no argument. Only someone completely deluded would think the average man is ACTUALLY REALLY a pedophile but mean ole society just won't let him express it.

Men like nice Tits.
Men like a nice Ass.

These are the two most popular traits
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>>109766648
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>>109766524
>far more attracted
Implies: men do find 18- girls attractive.

If your claim is most men find tits and asses more attractive, that's a defendable position, at least. But Jesus, when you say "18-'s not attractive" you must be crazy
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>>109766801
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>>109766801
You are literally making things up, nowhere did i say 18. Nowhere did i say men aren't attracted to jailbait (which by common definition has T&A)

this is about pre-pubescent vs post-pubescent

of course a lot of girls under 18 are post-pubescent, and men find them attractive

stop attempting to conflate pubescent children with 16 year old girls with C cup tits and large asses.
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>>109766885
I'm not arguing most men are pedophiles. I'm arguing that men feel "zero attraction" is false.

>pre-pubescent bs post
I want to make it clear I understand what you're saying. Youi're arguing that pre-pubescent girls haven't developed sexually (as you mentioned, for example, tits and asses), and thus lack those attractive traits. These are major sexual traits, so it follows for men young children are by far less attractive. This I follow. I agree.

You go on and claim that girls without sexually attractive traits are not sexually attractive. This is the problem. You very convincingly argue little girls are way less attractive, but how does that prove they aren't attractive at all. Puberty developments are not everything that men find attractive. Is a naked girl with a vagina and legs with an innocent/erotic expression not attractive?

Even if the girl was ugly, haven't you ever thought "well I am a bit attracted to her on that body part, but overall she's disgusting." Have you ever thought that some guy's body part was attractive, even if you aren't gay? In that sense you are attracted to them even thought disgust outweighs the attraction.

I'll reiterate again; just because you may find T&A's far more attractive, it does not mean you do not feel some attraction to little girls.
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Goddamnit, I'd stick my penis in that underage vampire.
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>>109768546
Shinobu is almost 600 years old. This is an underage vampire.
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>>109754592
>Shinobu stole araragi's virginity
No. That's not what happens. Tsukihi cockblock's them, and he loses his virginity to crab instead.

Terrible read.
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>>109770154
*Tsukihi cuckooblocks them
FTFY
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>>109746985
link pls
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>>109745862
Because she's actually cute with a smile I want to protect when she's a loli. She really becomes an old hag when she grows up.
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Which Monogataris would you ship?
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>>109770442
>cuckooblocks
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>>109771686
All of them x my dick
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I'd brush yolk's teeth until she cries for more.
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>>109771686
CatxCrab
MonkeyxBee
SnakexPhoenix
SnailxCorpse
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>>109768710
Oh man, that's hilarious!
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what happened to the movie? i remeber seeing that anounced before nisemono started.
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>>109775798
It went into the vaporware zone. Only Shaft's love of money can make them fix their scheduling enough to release it.
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>>109746779
>Shinobu comes off as too arrogant for me. The more she opened her mouth from Nise onward, the less I liked her.
She is canonically the strongest creature that was spawned from the human mind. Can't really call it arrogance when she is literally the most dangerous being. The Darkness doesn't count because it is not a creature. It isn't a thing.
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>>109775798
Kizu never
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Loli > Teen > Old woman.
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>>109775861
The Darkness, you say?
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>>109748039
>But he can't shapeshift or mind-control or anything,
He has 100% the physical capability of what Shinobu can do, he just isn't experienced enough to know how to do those things.
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>>109775928
>Goblin wearing a snapback

What
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>>109775928
Kinds reminds me of Nrvnqsr.
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>>109775949
That was when he was an actual vampire, they're talking about his "Vamp" powers. Which is basically just healing and increased strength.
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>>109775983
>>109776094
It's a good old game for PS3/X360 from back 2007, I think. Definitely worth a playthrough. Based on some comics named the same way.
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Kizunamonogatari fucking WHEN?
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>>109776216
20XX.

Practice healthy living to increase the odds it's within your lifetime!
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>>109776216
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>>109776564
That was a good thread until KoG derailed it.
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Kizu ;_;
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You do realize you are in one of the places on the internet with morre pedophiles right?
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