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Alright, this post references multiple threads and I think it's a fairly notable development, so I'm making a thread for it. If requested, I will pull it down.

So, I looked up Chestnut Street in Salem in response to this thread: >>15485996. What I found is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Athenaeum

It's the only library on Chestnut Street. It's coordinates are 42.520429°N 70.900502°W. While they aren't exactly the same as the coordinates given on gatewaytohell.org ("42.523046 and -70.889774"), they are pretty fuckin close, and considering the possibly of slight inaccuracies I think this is the place they wanted us to find. If the OP I quoted earlier is to be believed, a book may be found here giving coordinates to a new location, apparently a creepy-ass basement. This is where the passageway to Hell may be found.

Read this thread if you have no fucking idea what I'm talking about: >>15480910
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1032296
http://hauntedtavern.proboards.com/thread/6210/time-come-open-gates
http://halloweenlove.com/gateway-to-hell-mystery/
Links with more info
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Wish I lived near the area...

Any Mass anon wanna go on an adventure?
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There's a Chestnut Street in Foxborough.
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>>15486855
Do you think that's where the new location will end up being, le dubs man?
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>>15486803
HELL IS NOT IN THIS DIMENSION!
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you're a faggot thanks for killing diego gracia faggot
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Can we get back on subject? Lf MassFags to epic quest
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>>15486855
Well someone in the previous thread mentioned that the house was in Foxborough. Along with them also saying there was radioactive ore in the basement, which may or may not be the neodymium iodide I correlated as being useful info earlier.
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For anyone who may not know, neodymium iodide = NdI3
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>>15486921
I also assume that there's actually something behind this website, so I'm willing to believe there's a relevance in the two street names.

I don't see why anyone would pay to host a domain name until 2020 and pay off halloweenlove.com (whatever THAT site is) unless there's something to be gained or lost from it.

> inb4 gatewaytohell host is tier 10 troll
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>>15486921
But why where would there be radioactive ore just sitting around in a basement in Massachusetts?
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Has anyone considered that NDI3 is NOT neodymium? >>15485996 says that in the Witch Bible, there is a passage about The Devil's Bookmark. On the site, it says that the Devil's Bookmark can be found IN NDI3.

Perhaps NDI3 is referring to the name of the book?
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>>15487101
Or NDI3 may be some sort of designation in the bookstore? An archive section or something with organizational meaning.
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OP of the original thread here. So glad to see so many developments being made. Closer and closer.
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>>15487132
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Let's just hope that Cape Cod anon can do /x/'s work and find the new coordinates.

>>15487139
Indeed, you should have posted this on /x/ sooner.
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I already know the usefulness of neodymium as a part for electromagnets, but what of neodymium iodide? Does it retain that after synthesis? And also, from what I can tell from my knowledge of chemistry, neodymium iodide should not be radioactive. I have been researching various ways to increase electromagnetivity (the word I use when I discuss electromagnetic effect in general) through manipulating various formulas to pinpoint the best compounds to use. Through the research of scientists in the field of parapsychology and 'ghost hunting', it has been discovered that spirits and demons seem to be attracted to electromagnetic fields. So, I want to try combining the power of science with the spiritual ideas gathered over centuries to summon and bend these entities to my will.
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>>15487186
Just because they're attracted to them doesn't mean they'll bend over backwards or be confined to them; you have researched the possibility of a bait, not a trap.
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>>15487186
>>15487199
Wait, wait, wait. Let's not assume that actual fucking demons and ghosts are involved in this. We still haven't unraveled the potential symbolism behind the "path to hell". Let's just follow the clues and see what we find.
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>>15487186
>I have been researching various ways to increase electromagnetivity (the word I use when I discuss electromagnetic effect in general)

the only thing that makes an electromagnet stronger is more electricity. but i don't think you're talking about electromagnets at all, in which case get your shit together. a duck is a duck, you fucking fuck.
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>>15487213
100% of the time Hell is associated with demons. The ongoing theory is that some spooky shit happened with some Salem witches that opened up a gateway to hell in a house, the location of which is buried in this book on page 144.

http://halloweenlove.com/gateway-to-hell-mystery/
Read the page above, very important as toward what's happening.
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>>15487300
It is not a good idea to make a lot of assumptions when investigating, anon. We'll look into the clues and see what we see.

This isn't really a clue, but here's the online catalog for the aforementioned library: https://www.librarything.com/catalog/SalemAthenaeum/yourlibrary

I doubt our witch-bible will be found in here, but it would be worth it to look.
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I live about an hour from Salem, I can check it out if you guys want
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>>15487424
You go, Anon!
Remember to mention NDI3 to the librarian or whoever, ask about it. Also, look in the back for an old book in a case. Turn to page 144 and read something about "The Devil's Bookmark," be sure to take a photo of the page(s).
http://www.salemathenaeum.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Athenaeum
>Address
337 Essex Street in Salem, Massachusetts
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im from mass and with out a doubt the gateway to hell is brockton
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Bump4Anons
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Bump.

This is incredible
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so is this the new cicada
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I just skimmed through some of the stuff you guys deciphered. Anyways I do not know if this has been brought up, but it has to do with the translation of the ndi3 architectural website. Even if it is just placeholder text, it comes off as fucking weird.

Anyways, i put in 3IDN into google and came up with http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/explore.do?structureId=3IDN

There are references to protein in some of the translation. It is far fetched but you never know.
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>>15488883
I suppose not, but I highly doubt that the architectural website has anything to do with this. I won't rule it out entirely, but I'm honestly not considering it as a real possibility.
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Oh, also, >>15488888
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You can use numbers in the URL, try with /1 for example
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So guys, I translated the first paragraph that was in 'latin' to greek instead and these works came up in capitals, - dui sem sed nulla sem legem quam -
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>>15486894
I live in boston. Will go if I can find a friend. My best friend is away at bootcamp right now, and he's the only one I'd ask to go with me.
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also live in boston, wouldn't hate checkin shit out up there
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>>15489556
Where in boston?
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>>15489264
>>15489556
Alright Bostonfags, this is the place you need to find: >>15487128.

Are you up to it? When could you go? Start a thread with a tripcode so you can keep us updated on your findings.
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>>15486820
BostonBro here.
I want to go on an /x/ adventure.
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4chan Salem meet up kek. Would be stuff for /soc/, if Hell wasn't involved.
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>>15489556
>>15489623
straight up willing to go on saturday
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>>15489620
DO IT FAGGOT

And refer to the post above yours for what to do
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>>15489672
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>>15489698
Also keep in mind that "Witch Bible" may be symbolic and that the staff that work there may not be aware of it.
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>>15489704
Who said this "Witch Bible" exists? Yeah, someone claimed it in another thread, but he didn't explain how the clue of the coordinates et cetera is linked to it, even if asked to. So, I'm not going to believe it unless someone prove it. I'm not going to assume right an unproved claim.
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>>15486866
Dubs
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>>15489580
back bayish, you
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>>15489624
i have shit to do in the morning but could beebop around afternoon
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>>15489750
wow

rich boy

I live in Brighton

>>15489754
just realized my wife volunteered us to cook for the homeless on Saturday, sorry bros
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>>15489769
not a bro, but nbd. have fun w/ da homeless
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>>15486803
Let's do an image search on that door.
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>>15489620
are you tryin to explore this for real or nah
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>>15489793
The same image appears here as what seems to be stock
https://www.iamtaken.com/blog

Editted stock image?
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>>15489782
thanks... /x/ will probably have forgotten all about this when I decide to actually go

hope someone gets to do it at some point
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>>15489793
Original image, searching.
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>>15489808
Dead end.
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>>15489808
Why does the door matter?
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Who knows. We'll know after investigating.
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WELL this got boring
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>>15489995
You are boring
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>>15489995
You're boring
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If you want the gateway to hell, why not just jump in the House of the Seven Gable's well? Pretty sure that house has bad juju, and cursed by all the witches, being the corrupt persecutor's house.
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>>15486803
I live in the area, can someone give me a quick rundown of why I should investigate this and what I should be looking for.

If anyone wants any real copypasta from someone who really really wants to look into this shit, please make me understand. I don't have enough time to read the thread myself.
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>>15489995
Your boring
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In terms of NDI3, it could refer to:

1. The chemical compound, as suggested.
2. Roman numerals? See >>15486687
3. Any one of these acronyms, using 3 as a reference perhaps?
http://www.acronymfinder.com/NDI.html
(Also, ironically including National Death Index)
4. A long shot, but could it be a reference to a location on this map? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Salem_Village_-_map_of_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_17845.jpg (A approximate map of Salem during the witch trial era, includes several letters and numbers which NDI3 could be used to match against)

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Also noting that the I in NDI3 could be roman numerals. Same goes for D (D = 500, I = 1)

N isn't a numeral, but could it be North?
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>that article with the replies by that one guy talking about the stories his father would tell him.

Jesus.

He didn't even share what the stories were about.
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>>15486820
>>15486894
I'll join you guys. Malden fag here. Few minutes outside of Boston
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>>15486870
>HELL IS NOT IN THIS DIMENSION!
no, it IS this dimension
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>>15491395
There are three Heavens. This Earth is the First Heaven, the second Heaven is where the planets and starts are,
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>>15491672
Not sure if trolling or actually retarded
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>>15491672
Mormanfag
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Maybe the coordinates are not meant to pinpoint a precise location in Salem. They just say the next clue is generically in Salem. Or has to do with Salem, without need to actually go there. Come on guys, let's think. We have coordinates which are useful only if related to the right map and a quest. And then we have to find a so-called "devil's bookmark" in this NDI3 thing. Come on. Let's think and link the clues together.
pic unrelated
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No one into this anymore?
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>>15492908
I am, but only come to 4chin at work
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>>15492908
I'm into it. I wanted to see where you guys got.
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any spanish anons up to trying the phone numbers ?
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>>15491236
Please see >>15489698

Keep in mind that the Bible was originally described as a regular old Bible that was altered by Witches, hereby referred to from now on as a "Witch Bible". It is possible that the library is either unaware of its existence. Another more interesting possibility is the idea that they ARE aware of it, and are actively trying to hide it's existence.
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>>15491236
>>15493727
Oh, and it's part of an ongoing mystery regarding a "passageway to hell". I won't bog you down with details, but it sounds like there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.
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What numbers?
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>>15493727
That girl is cute as fuck
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>>15494280
I think you mean cute ass-fuck
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On the ndi3 website it mentions an author and a gate of the cat. Found out that there is a book by that name by andre norton having to deal with witches.
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Anyone go?
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>>15486803
whats the answer to the gatewaytohell.org question
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>>15495778
nevermind the answers death, how cliche
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>>15494332
lol, actual developement that is outside of "hard to believe" realm, and the /x/ schizophrenic faggots completely ignore it
typical worthless faggots
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>>15494332
...Andre Norton, The Gate of the Cat, ISBN -10: 0441273807

Not what i would call an unknown and mysterious author. Nor an book that is hard to come by.
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I would check out halloweenlove.com if I were you guys...this is some fucked up stuff right now
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Sebastien
2 hours ago
This is NOT okay!!!!!!!! You have NO right to defame ourlogo like this!! We are a good kind people. our church has nothing to do with demons or hell but for you to mock our church like this we can sue you no ever heard of trade mark infringment and libel!!!! obviously not and all these people shame on you to maybe you have a chance if you see the real web site http://gatewaytoheaven.org we just opened soon is real and gatewaytohellorg is FAAAAAKKKKE!!!! and illegal
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>>15496526Herbert L. Wallace Sebastien
an hour ago
Bullshit. Lies.

I've been quietly keeping tabs on this.

I'm the one who posted my discoveries about the gateway to hell. After being robbed, followed and taunted by cryptic emails I had to lay low for a while.

But, you know what? It turns out the guy who put together http://gatewaytohell.org/ is a friend. At first I didn't understand, but now it makes perfect sense. It was all done to expose you and your cult and he had the ingenious idea of making it into a game so that he could quietly and anonymously build a community of soldiers (with more manpower and resources than law enforcement could ever provide if they even believed us) to help us find you and discover who and what you really are and who all is behind the criminal activities linked to "Circulus Keep".

That's right you fuck, I have proof. You didn't find all my father's files. One particular folder had an interesting dossier with reports of your fraudulent collections of "donations", of people gone missing with your group as the primary suspects and animal abuse.

I have nothing left to lose. I'm the one who's been helping to promote http://gatewaytohell.org/, out of my own inheritance I got this very blog to help begin to expose you. There's no stopping it now you piece of shit. As for the logo I sent in that's on this post being fake, hah! It's your real logo from 1948 that I found in my father's files. The one you show to real members who are on the inside, not the one you use for your criminal front.

Our soldiers are on their way to Salem. Your days are numbered.
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This is so frustrating, I used to live in Salem until a year ago. My Sister still lives there, but there's no way I could get her to do this.
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I think I've found something relevant (Pic Related)

This was found here: http://www20.us.archive.org/stream/cu31924091768279/cu31924091768279_djvu.txt

Maybe this could lead somewhere?
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>>15496593
Found the full text, link to the page containing the passage: https://archive.org/stream/originalhebrewof00cowlrich#page/n25/mode/2up
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>>15494287
who is she?
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>>15496605
Found her. http://justyoungfeet.tumblr.com/post/101556401305
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>>15487455
>http://www.salemathenaeum.net/
http://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=witch+bible&searchtype=work&searchtype=work&sortchoice=0

Well shit.
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>>15491255
ND13 could also be a very, very old phone number. Which be like like North Dakota 13
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On the Gateway to Hell page, when you hover over the word "NDI3" it states "room". I noticed this when looking at the source of the page. Is NDI3 describing a room number or means to locate a room?
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>>15496688
When I did the google map search I got the essex museum.

Perhaps it could be a room in the museum?
I also got the history of Salem V. I &II
as well as history of great paintings in searching the athenaeum's catalog.
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>>15496708
Also there's the Devil's Book by anton levay at that library.
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>>15496688
Well done man! I'm from Europe so I can't help, I hope some of you guys get more info on this
>>15496528
Can you explain what is this and where does it come from?
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>>15496203
So? Maybe the library has the book listed as that book in their registry as a kind of code to ask for the witches bible? Nothing is irrelevant, just unlikely.
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>>15496528
please elaborate on the Circulus Keep Cult
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>>15497577
>Circulus Keep Cult

A quick google check turned this up this article:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/child_sacrifices.htm
>Open Circle newsletter.
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Hey guys, found something else.

on gatewaytohell.org/message, the original text was changed. It now says to use "/tools"

When I tried to input gatewaytohell.org/tools, it tried redirecting me to stevemorse.org

It seems like it has a lot to do with death and obituaries, but I'm not really sure where to go from here. Definitely new information though.
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ohhh man
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>>15491395
There is no Hell, really. Trust me.
>>15486870
This home for now.
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It leads to a place where you can search things by long/lat, and if you input what was found on gatewaytohell.org/2, you get

18 Washington Sq,Salem Essex MA, 01970-4056, US

based on the MapQuest directions. What exactly is here? I'm currently doing this so sorry if this seems like a stream of consciousness (because that's exactly what it is).

Delving deeper.
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It appears the Hawthorne Hotel in Salem, MA is at this exact address, and it also seems that there are mentions of it being haunted? Again, stream of consciousness. Bear with me here, guys.
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>>15498384
Hell is the opposite of Heaven
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>>15491295
They were to teach, that's all.
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>>15498391
As long as you make it that way.
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>>15498393
No, silly,
water is the opposite of fire

A sea of flames falls under the category of Earth
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Apparently at the Hawthorne Hotel, in rooms 612 and 325, there have been multiple reports of spooky shit happening.

Ghost woman walking around, ghost babies crying, and the feeling of being touched by invisible hands.

NDI3 comes up as "room" when you hover over it on the website, but I think the hotel's rooms only correspond to numbers. Perhaps NDI3 could be decoded to come up with a legit room number, and something could be inside there?
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>>15498399
Not that opposite. They work in conjunction to protect. There is no opposite, everything has a purpose.
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>>15498406
It seems like maybe you haven't quite grasped the concept of contrast
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>>15498408
Hello there, sorry about that. I've forgotten a lot about this place so forgive me.
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>>15498408
All of it exists whether I believe so or not though, so it doesn't matter. Just here doing what I need to do, like everyone else.
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Apparently in the lobby of the Hawthorne Hotel, there's a bookshelf. Perhaps that contains a book that we need to go through? "NDI" could be initials, and page 3? Or something similar?

Also, why the fuck are you faggots talking about irrelevant shit. Do I not realize that I'm really late or something?
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>>15486803
holy shit. got there by my self, i got bored and continued thinking. i thought to my self "what if ND13 refers to HTML address? type that in, goes to previous page. do the highlight get hell thing and click that. get "im sorry my friend but we must continue our work." cant remember exactly because i'm concussed, sorry.
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Guys go read the reddit thread,
someone actually went to the location and took photos:

http://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/2mv1g2/gateway_to_hell_mystery/cm9k0pb
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>>15496675
>http://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=witch+bible&searchtype=work&searchtype=work&sortchoice=0
It's not a fucking "WITCH BIBLE" you fucking moron.
It's a regular fucking bible.
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>>15498369
>gatewaytohell.org/tools
You're right. I converted it with his tools
MapQuest
18 Washington Sq,Salem Essex MA, 01970-4056, US
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OKAY, THIS WHOLE WITCH BOOK THING WAS COMPLETELY FALSE, A THROWOFF.

WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS NDI3 IN THE HAWTHORNE HOTEL
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>>15486803
IT'S LIKE NO ONE HAS HEARD OF THE HOLDERS

GO TO ANY ASYLUM AND ASK TO SEE THE HOLDER OF PATIENCE
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>>15498537
This, people are asking for an altered bible or a witch bible. It's likely they are unaware that one of their bible's has been altered. Library's have bibles, no?
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>>15497744
a quick check turned up u are full of shit
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>>15498369
Actually gatewaytohell.org/tools redirected me on ebay, looking for scythes
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Hawthorne hotel was pretty close to the coordinates. Maybe there could be something in Nathaniel Hawthorne's writings? He was born in Salem and was related to the only judge in the witch trials who did not repent his actions. Probably a bit far fetched, just trying to contribute something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Hawthorne
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Entering the coordinates and pressing hotel in map quest indeed shows the hawthorn hotel, I guess we're right this time.
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>>15500179
Indeed, but people have already been to the hotel and haven't found anything. There also doesn't seem to be any connection between the author and NDI3.

Yet another building which was nearby was the O'donnel funeral home.
Perhaps this could be connected to the whole scythe thing? Death?
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>>15500179
That's 10 minutes from where I live. I can walk there, literally.
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>>15500348
Well the /tools site redirects to scythes/sickles on Ebay.

Also, the /message site is now "blank", but has empty paragraphs that seem to allude to the number "4 2 7".

Is there a room 427 in the Hawthorne Hotel?
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>>15500348
Feel free to do that anon. According to the floorplan there was a room called "The Library". Perhaps there could be something of use there in relation to NDI3, Devil's bookmark?
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Hey Reddit OP, you in here? Seems like there are very few of us in this thread honestly.
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>>15500373
There are many who simply like to sit in the shadows and observe.
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Find the devil's bookmark in <span title="room">NDI3</span>.

Room NDI3.
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>>15500373
Do you need something?
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>>15500382
Oh shut the fuck up.

>>15500407
Just wondering if you're the only person lurking. Figured /x/ would be more into this honestly.

Any trails on what to do now? Can someone go and see about room 427 at the Hawthorne? Any ideas about the scythe?
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>>15486866
nscouth challenge
did you guys find ther devils bookmark yet im translating dome pages from latin
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>>15500431
I can find absolutely no correlation to room 427 based on the blanks, I believe it's a thow-off. If you go check the bookings for the hotel, you will see that individual rooms are named and probably don't have numbers to them anyway.

Also, the redirection from /tools was changed, before it led to http://stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php
which led us to the Hawthorne Hotel in the first place. I think it's just an attempt to throw people off, those that didn't see the original message.
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>>15500460
1) Individual rooms do have numbers, which is why so many ghost stories about the place state specific room numbers. There's mentions of a 612 and 325 being haunted. So there most likely is a 427 on the fourth floor.

2) The odds of the owner of gatewaytohell.org trying so hard to throw people off in multiple ways seems a bit farfetched. Another, more logical assumption, is that he's monitoring this thread and the Reddit thread, checking our progress and moving us further once we figure out certain information.

If all of this IS a throw-off, then we'd be damn near back to square one, and I don't think the person orchestrating all of this would want that.

In fact, he's probably reading this all giddy with excitement that there are some people getting closer to solving his riddle. That's how I'd be.
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My thoughts on this mystery. Feel free to tell me if you think I am hot or cold.

The agency at work has made the mystery accessible to those who aren't physically present in the location. I think this because if you wanted a mystery that was only locally solvable there is no need to publish it online. I am 90% certain this is the case, although there is also the small chance that they are counting on someone in person to discover the key and let it be known publicly for the rest of us to continue.

The "2 Door" has to have some significance other than being 50/50. The only real difference I noticed between the two doors was the imposed number affected the appearance of the metalwork in the center. However if there is some internal significance that directly related to the correct door choice it stops there.

The coordinates given are very specific, yet do not put you at anything other than the street between the Hawthorne Hotel and the Salem Common. It isn't the direct coords for the Hotel, but its close enough for it to be relevant in some way. I would seriously suggest looking into any connection to the Salem Common (particularly the Gazebo) directly north.

Also has no one noticed that the Salem Witch Museum is a block away to the NW? That can't be a coincidence.

As for "Room" and "NDI3" it could an attempt to distract us at the hotel, when its true significance lies elsewhere.
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prehaps the clue is based on the geo location of the Hawthorne hotel giving us the name Nathaniel Hawthorne an author and bookmark might lead us to collaborate this. then the whole /tools leading us to search for scythe. So maybe the meaning of the clue is hidden in the writings of Hawthorne and cross reference "scythe" and maybe "devil" has anyone yet tried this? Also where might "room" come into play?
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changing my name to BiscuitNeck

>>15500476
When you said the coordinates lead to the middle of some street, did you do it in MapQuest or Google Maps? When you input the coordinates into stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php, you get the Hawthorne Hotel exactly.

I do agree, however, that it probably doesn't require a person to physically be there. If so, that just takes away from the entire mystery/riddle and only makes it available to people in MA.
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http://ndi3.com/blog/tristique-inceptos-tellus/
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>>15500496
Stop linking this. It's Lorem ipsum and is going to throw everyone off. We've been over this in the previous 3 threads. It's not relevant.
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>>15500476
I'm the one who's visited the coordinates already. Here's a summary of what I believe to be true.

This is an ARG. Like, pretty obviously. If people are expecting real cult stuff and discovering secret societies, they will be disappointed. The rabbit hole, GPS coords, occult themes, rival factions, all textbook ARG stuff, if they wrote textbooks on this sort of thing.

The coordinates were specific, but gave a particular answer when used in conjunction with the first /tools redirect to the coordinate to address converter. When used there, addresses were listed as they were returned by different services, Google Maps, MapQuest, etc. The MapQuest one (which we know to look for because of /location) specifically gave the address of the Hawthorne Hotel.

The whole bit about Chestnut St, the bookstore, the Athenaeum, Foxboro, all of that is irrelevant. That information came from another /x/ post which didn't explain where those clues came from, so it sounds like it was either coincidentally or purposely misleading. I've been ignoring it entirely while working through the steps.

The Salem Witch Museum could maaaybe be involved, but I doubt it so far. You can't swing a dead black cat in Salem without hitting a witch museum, dungeon, wand shop, or mystical steve's newt eye and nightshade emporium. As hard as it is to believe, for Salem, it feels like a coincidence.

Currently, I think "room" and NDI3 are connected to the hotel, but I'm still somewhat stumped as to how. I've checked the bookshelves in the lobby, and I would like to check the meeting room named the "Library" which is something I might do later tonight.
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>>15500511
Thanks, you seem like a reasonable person. I've come to all the conclusions you have, except have you checked out gatewaytohell.org/message lately?

There are blank spaces/paragraphs now, alluding to the number "4 2 7". This could possibly be a room number.

Also worth mentioning is that /tools now redirects to scythes and sickles on ebay.

Perhaps there's something in room 427? I'm not sure, because if we don't take this at face value then it could be a lot of things.
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I'm not sure if this is important (or even correct), but the page seems to be monitored/changed almost constantly.

If you view the Page Info (on Mozilla Firefox, at least), it says the website is modified very often. I can't tell if this is just when I myself visit the site or what, since it's very close to the present time, but according to Firefox's support website, "Modified:" should refer to when the page itself was modified.

Perhaps the person behind all of this is VERY actively keeping tabs on us?
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>>15500525
Yeah, I've seen it, though can you explain how you're getting 427? At first I thought the page was just blank, but it's not blank blank. It has 13 carriage-returns or line breaks. That seems somewhat significant to me. I'm hesitant to assume anything about particular room numbers because those aren't public spaces. The meeting rooms, the lobby, the restaurant are places anyone could investigate if they had a mind to, but no hotel is going to let random folks in off the street go around knocking on doors of paying guests.

I'm trying to work out the sickle and scythe thing too. Makes you think of the reaper or harvesting, which fits with the whole death and going to hell thing. Maybe it refers to a book? We've played with the idea that NDI3 could be "National Death Index, Volume 3" or similar, but nothing like that was on the lobby bookshelves.

There's still that Library room though.
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>>15500546
When you go to the source, you see: &nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br /><br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br /><br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;

Based on where the double breaks are, it seems to be separated into 4/2/7
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>>15500503
have you translated the page on the web
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>>15500533
Absolutely. I had to help organize an ARG once for a class. We kept close watch on all the places it was being talked about to know how far along people were in the narrative, when to give extra clues, when to have characters (Like Herbert Love Wallace) make an appearance.
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>>15500546
If you highlight/CTRL+A the /message url, it comes up as 4 spaces, nothing, 2 spaces, nothing, 7 spaces.

Also, searching through Hawthorne's works themselves for "scythe" brings up Father Time. Father Time carries a scythe and an hourglass.

Not sure how relevant that is, throwing it out there to keep it in everyone's mind.
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>>15500484
Speaking of Nathaniel Hawthorn, his ancestor was William Hathorne who was the most zealous witch-hunter and went to his grave without remorse. Nathaniel added the "W" to his last name to distance himself from him.

William Hathorne has had an impact on the history and sights around Salem and particularly the Salem Commons. I am not sure if the Hawthorne Hotel is named after him or another Hawthorne.

>>15500486
I see, I guess the hint is certain pointing to something to do with the Hotel in that case.

>>15500511
Jelly that you are there. Anywho thanks for the hard work, I myself say photos of the lobby and my first thought was to check the books out. You hunch about the Library might be right.

I just can't get my head around NDI3, it sounds so strange as a sequence. Its not unusual to have one or two letters followed by numbers, but to have 3 unrelated letters followed by a single digit of 3 makes me feel like it needs to be processed into something more legible.

The only other thing it reminds me of is how in Japan homes are classified like "2LDK" meaning "2 bedrooms, Living room, dinning room, kitchen"

Perhaps the NDI are abbreviations of something, which when known has "3" make sense.

>>15500552
But how relevant can we assume that sequence is specifically to the Hotel? It could be to do with another part of the quest or a red herring.

[spoiler]This whole thing is turning me on way too much.
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>>15500556
That only works on firefox. On chrome it's just a block, but you can see it in the view source
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>>15500564
I was just proving that it's there/might be relevant to something.
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>>15500556
that's what I was pointing out earlier but got no replies.
Maybe it is Hawthornes work and the format will equal
>4 lines of text
>break
>2 lines of text
>break
>7 lines of text
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>>15500554
Yes, the only thing that seems vastly different is that "online auction" is mentioned. Though it does seem this is done on purpose (what with the Ebay redirection from /tools), if you translate actual Lorem Ipsum, shit about "high school football" and whatnot come up. Seems pretty coincidental, and it seems that the person behind all of this has seen that others have looked at the wrong place and is now trying to direct us with /message and /tools.

>>15500570
Yeah, I'm looking through his stuff now. I only came up with the Father Time thing for now, but I didn't think about looking for that format in one of his books.
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I was playing around with the ND13 thing. 13 in the dewey decimal system is Parapsychology and Occultism
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We need some official creepy mystery playlist for this whole thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7-O9f1c_1g
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>>15500585
Please note that it's not "ND13", but actually "NDI3".
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>>15500585
Interesting, but the code is NDI3, not ND13
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>>15500589
BEAAAATRIIIIIIICEEEE
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>>15500585
NDI3 not ND13
>>15500575
Also maybe like this
>N____ 4 lines of text
>break
>D____ 2 lines of text
>break
>I_____ 7 lines of text
in maybe page or chapter 3?
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>>15500600
But which work? Do you think he would expect us to go through each of Hawthorne's works?

Also, someone mentioned earlier that the Hotel had a library. Is there no "427" or "NDI3" reference number there?
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>>15500575
If I'm not mistaken, Google translate adjusts its algorithm by looking for the input text on the internet and making judgements about context to give the best translating. What happens when you translate Lorem Ipsum is that it starts pulling from all sorts of sites with that filler, giving a nonsense result.

I'm of the opinion that ndi3.com is entirely unrelated and just a coincidence with the code that was chosen.
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>>15500623
Yes. Lorem ipsum is filler text on websites, it most likely has no meaning in this case, and it would be best to focus on the more solid clues.
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>>15500613
They have a meeting room called the Library, and I believe it has some books in it, but it probably isn't cataloged like you would imagine a real library to be. I do plan on checking that out the next time I swing by the hotel.
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I feel like we are getting sidetracked by noise and information that might be a dead-end. Lets just try to focus on

>Hawthorne Hotel
>NDI3
>room

Oh, also where were people getting that whole thing about a book or witches bible thing? Was that more left-field nonsense?
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>>15500636
I think we should add 427 or 13 to that list. They had to have updated that page with those breaks for a reason.
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>>15500636
I think so. Some random person posted that information with no background info or method to how he got there.

I actually think that's why /message and /tools were changed recently, because the Orchestrator saw that we were going far off the right path.

>Hawthorne Hotel
>NDI3
>Room
>4 2 7
>Sickle/Scythe

Now, there are mentions of sickles and scythes in Hawthorne's works, with one woman cutting her thumb with a sickle, and Father Time carrying a scythe and an hourglass.

Perhaps there's a grandfather clock in the Hotel? I'm probably reaching too far at this point, but I honestly don't know what these things could be referring to.

I'm not even sure if I should be going through Hawthorne's works themselves.
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>>15500648
Might it be a good idea to include gatewaytoheaven.org and Circulus Keep as well?
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Just a thought, could NDI3 possible be refereing to initials? It might explain why they are all capitalized. It could be NDI on its own as a name or "NDI the 3rd".

It could be a real or fictional character.
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Did anybody check this?
https://who.is/whois/gatewaytohell.org
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>>15500695
I thought it might have been the initials of an author. I was hoping to go to the hotel, find a book written by NDI, turn to either the 3rd page, or chapter, or volume, and find "the devil's bookmark". It's not likely NDI3 is a person itself because the bookmark is supposed to be "in" it.

Let's also not forget about the comments made by Sebastien, apparently with the gatewaytoheaven/circulus keep folks, and Herbert Love Wallace, who has made comments on both the HalloweenLove blog and the abovetopsecret forum.
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>>15500713
>https://who.is/whois/gatewaytohell.org
Does anything important jump out to you from this? I can't find anything.

>>15500695
That's what I was thinking, but it'd take quite a bit to parse Hawthorne's works...

This NDI3 thing is really stumping me.
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here's some of the translation I'll post again in abit gotta find dui
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>>15500731
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>>15500726
Comparing
>https://who.is/whois/gatewaytohell.org
>https://who.is/whois/gatewaytoheaven.org

Seems to be made by the same people
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Posting an entry in "The Scarlet Letter" from Hawthorne regarding a scythe.

>He had slain men with his own hand, for aught I know—certainly, they had fallen like blades of grass at the sweep of the scythe before the charge to which his spirit imparted its triumphant energy—but, be that as it might, there was never in his heart so much cruelty as would have brushed the down off a butterfly's wing.

If there is a clue to be had in any of his works, its likely going to be something famous like this or "The House of the Seven Gables" which is based in Salem.

I would also like to reiterate that Hawthorne is related to the cruelest judge that oversaw the Salem Witch Trials so that might also be a clue. I hear his Puritan background was reflected in his novels.
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>>15500735
Again. This is Lorem Ipsum text. It has no valid translation. It's filler designed to simulate real web content when designing a webpage. You can stop trying to decipher it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum

>>15500739
Because it's an ARG. The fact that the same people made webpages for the ARG is not surprising.
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>>15500739
>>15500739
http://halloweenlove.com/gateway-to-hell-mystery/

I'm currently reading this, but from what I understand so far, there is a solid connection. Give me a bit, still reading.
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>>15500751
Of course. It just confirms that Circulus Keep and the other site are legit parts of this, and not just something made up like that other thread.
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>>15500754
Some of the comments were deleted by what I assume is a paranoid blogger, but they appear to be relevant narrative. I managed to get a screenshot before the admin removed it though: http://i.imgur.com/EwfBKlU.jpg
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>>15500758
Ah, sorry for snipping then! I thought it was someone else who arrived late to the party going "hmm, I think this whole thing might be a clever ruse".
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>>15500767
I've seen this before, and am only just now understanding.

If so, this seems a tad serious. Is that conversation legit or is it part of the ARG as well? You guys all said that gatewaytoheaven.org and gatewaytohell.org are registered by the same people/same location, correct?

Does that mean that gatewaytohell.org was made by someone inside of the Circulus Keep to try and expose what they're doing in favor of Herbert L. Wallace?
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>>15500786
Yeah, ARGs often employ characters like this who speak to "players" to help or hinder. Assuming I'm right, it would be used to create more drama and intrigue. I think the admin of the blog saw it and took it seriously, not knowing what it was, and removed the posts at the first mention of the word lawsuit out of sphincter-tightening reflex.

The way I understand it. Circulus Keep, the ones behind gatewaytoheaven.org, are some spooky, new-world-ordery cult promoting itself as a church. gatewaytohell.org is run by folks trying to expose them for what they are. HLW is a guy who gets caught up in this feud somehow after investigating stories his father told him as a child, and he considers the folks behind gatewaytohell as friends.
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Something that really bothers me, is how quickly the difficulty jumped. I mean, up the this point the solutions have been painfully simple and easy for anyone to make it to.

Then for whatever reason we reach the hotel and this code and room and Devil's Bookmark and all of us seemed to be completely stumped.

There is the theory that the author is trying to gives us hints because of how incompetent we are at getting to the next step.

I feel like we are missing something simple, or going about it the wrong way.

>Find the devil's bookmark in NDI3.

Is the only instruction we are given after the address. What does bookmark mean? How literal or figurative is it. The fact that its IN NDI3 has to refer to a location directly related to the Hawthorne Hotel. We also are pretty obviously told that NDI3 refers to a "room" of some sort which may or may not be a physical room.
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>>15500798
That's my impression as well.

Another thing to note is that when you Google "Herbert L. Wallace", you come up with a man who died in 2008 in Salem, MA. The person in the comments of the blog was named Herbert L. Wallace, which is weird, because if you're a paranoid dude getting threatening emails, you wouldn't include your ENTIRE NAME. So perhaps this is a clue of some sort? Surely it can't be a coincidence that Wallace also died in Salem, MA.

>>15500800
Another thing that bothers me. Perhaps we're trying too hard? The Orchestrator is definitely keeping tabs on us, that's for sure.

NDI3 refers to room. Combined with the fact that the coordinates lead to the Hawthorne Hotel, it should seem pretty straightforward that there's something in a room there that has to do with NDI3.

However, there's also "4 2 7" that we need to keep in mind on /message, and the /tools redirection to scythes on Ebay.

The devil's bookmark... I'm not sure what to make of that. Perhaps there's a bookmark or something interesting in a bible in one of the rooms at the hotel?

I wish I were in MA, because I would love to do this myself.
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>tfw in MA
>tfw too scared to do this

Good luck. But if something happens really close to my town, I'll do what I can.
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>>15500812
Spooky indeed, although on one of the forums where he speaks he goes by the name HerbertLove, while the real person's obituary says his middle name was Lee. Could be an eerie coincidence.
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>>15498384
>There is no Hell, really. Trust me.
Is there a heaven? And how do you know?
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>>15500812
>/tools redirection to scythes on Ebay.

I am starting to think that now that its just trying to imprint the idea of death or murder in relation to something. I mean the "tool" of Death is a scythe after all.

Maybe they are trying give us the idea that someone died or was murdered in the Hawthorne?

Or if you want a more symbolical interpretation it could be saying there is something important to do with death or murder in the books of Hawthorne.

I mean "bookmark" is certainly trying to conjure an expectation of it being in a book either physically or otherwise. But we still have the issue of the code and the room.
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>>15500864
Also makes sense, but knowing Hawthorne, that could literally be every one of his works.

Did anyone happen to get the screen grab of the email that was sent to HerbertLove? He mentions that he received a threatening email in his "final reply", saying that people have broken into his father's house and whatnot. I can't find that email anywhere, and it's really bothering me.
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>>15500878
I don't think the email itself was every posted.
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>>15500886
I think it was, but for a very small amount of time. The link itself still exists, it has just been deleted.

http://www.imagesup.net/di-014108167298.png

that was the link. I'm gonna try to Google archive it now.
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>>15500898
Nothing came up. The earliest link/archive of
http://www.imagesup.net/di-014108167298.png
came up with the same thing, no image found.

I suppose that's a dead-end now as well. Back to work:

>NDI3
>Hawthorne Hotel, Salem, MA
>4 2 7 from /message
>Devil's bookmark in NDI3
>scythe/sickle from /tools
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>>15500864
Im sure this is irrelevant but just scrolling by on /x/, had to mention that as a young girl, my parents would take me to salem for halloween a few years, from PA. We stayed at the hawthorne once and had to switch rooms twice because of noises, laughing children and maybe crying, if I recall. It was a long time ago, but.
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>>15500907
out of curiosity I looked up how numbers and letters are expressed in Greek letters and found that

>NDI is expressed as 50, 4, 10 or Nu Delta Iota
>the final 3 would be Gamma or G
>427 is expressed as Delta Beta Zeta or DBZ

This is just me rambling, but sometime number and wordplay can be the solution.

>>15500936
Well, the Hawthorne does have a reputation for being haunted by guests who stay there. It could be relevant somehow.
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>>15500936
Probably coincidence, but do you currently live in Canada?
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>>15500945
z is 6
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>>15500958
>Zeta has the numerical value 7 rather than 6 because the letter digamma (also called 'stigma' as a Greek numeral) was originally in the sixth position in the alphabet.

I guess 6 is also possible but less likely.
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>>15500963
possibly
i guess we cud use this to denote some sorta time period
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>>15486803
There is a portal at area 51. I don't know about this place.
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>>15500946
No, Pennsylvania.
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>>15501002
Stop this shit. You're making /x/ look worse than it usually does.

Back to the thread, I honestly don't know what to do from here. Anyone have any leads?
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>>15501041
I am still stumped, but I am trying to read up on older info and try to come at it from other angles.

If we stop thinking we lose. I am going to revisit the riddle and checking threads like this to try and make some progress.

Hopefully Rook might stumble upon something in Salem that will help us.
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>>15501041
I personally do not see any of the tell tale signs for this to be a real 4th dimensional gate. It seems all wrong.
However, I might buy it if there's localized magnetic anomalies such as the ones located at greene county.
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maybe a name on page 427 of a guest list?
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>>15501088
Of course it's not an actual portal to "hell". The fuck did you get magnetic anomalies from?

Seriously, you're posting INCREDIBLY irrelevant information/hints.
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>>15501119
Someone visited in person and there was no guest list available. These days all that stuff is private on the hotels computers.

I personally feel like 427 (if it is anything) is a hint, rather than the key to the solution. I firmly believe we have everything we need to solve the riddle of the Devil's Bookmark with what was initially presented to us.

The later updates are probably stemming from the fact people are giving up and finding it too hard to sort out, as well as all the disinfo and false leads. Its meant to help us solve the initial riddle, not be a new piece of information that can be extrapolated from.

Just like that map site was put up to zero in on the Hawthorne Hotel to remove any ambiguity about the location that was meant.
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>>15501144
Yeah, you're probably right. 427 is most likely a hint, along with the scythe/sickle. I'm still not convinced that something ISN'T in room 427 at the Hawthorne, however.
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Highly doubt we are going to find it. If we find it what do you want to find?What do you think we will find?
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>>15501151
I agree, we certainly can't rule out that possibility. I would think, however, that even if there is something in room 427 we probably should have been able to figure it out from NDI3 alone.

Perhaps that in itself is a sort of clue, if we can someone reach "427" or anything to do with the new hints using only consistent logic from the original riddle, it would solidify what direction to take.

That said, if this riddle requires someone to stay in a certain room to get the clue, and then hope that they post their findings accurately this entire "game" would be moving in a very intense direction.
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>>15501170
Yeah, I'd be too spooked in order to stay in that room/a specific room designated by this ARG or whatever it is.

It's just that NDI3 seems so damn abstract. Devil's bookmark... I honestly think we need that anon to go back to the Hawthorne and do more snooping. NDI3... ack. I'm close to calling the place and seeing if there is, for one, a room 427.
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>>15501181
Well, I did have a brainwave that felt like I was on to something, but I am sure I'm not the first to consider this.

So /message is that empty page, but its not empty because of the line breaks.

Now, my question is this; do those empty lines hold room for text? Is it possible to discern how many letters/words that space is sized for? What if the blank space represents something like a paragraph, sentence of text of some sort? If we found some pattern of say, the double spacing representing a new sentence or new word...
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>>15500853
Only a 'Heaven on Earth'.
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>>15500853
The Prime is acting of it's own accord, you can't stop it. The Prime is the Prime and is separate from this reality. This reality will always protect it.
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>>15501215
That's what >>15500600 was saying (too lazy to scroll up, might've been you saying that dude).

I tried looking quickly over Hawthorne's works for this, but didn't think it was the answer so I didn't try that hard.

Maybe it's for when we find the devil's bookmark? I really don't know man.
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Can anyone translate this symbol. It might be reversed. From picture with blond girl.
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>>15501243
Wrong thread. But still translations would help...
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>>15498369
Hahaha.
Ellis island.
Gateway to hell.
This is actually quite fitting.
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Last names of people involved with salem trials in 1692. Nurse,Dane,Lewis. 3 people
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>>15501297
I guess I'm not on to anything?
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I'll probably take another trip to the hotel tomorrow morning. Will update if and when that happens.
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>>15501297
I don't know.
I found a hospital but the connection isn't really convincing enough.
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>>15501336
It was just an idea. Deliverence dane -convicted but escaped. Rebecca nurse- covicted and executed. Mercy lewis - "afflicted". Its a bit tenuous but maybe something?
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>>15501356
I know. There may be more leads based on it.
It could still easily be neodymium iodide(III). The material appears to have strange properties.
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Relevant:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/mag-portals.html
This is a poorly understood phenomenon, it appears to just affect particles but it might be something more.
NASA has a huge history of being occultic as well, so I wouldn't really be surprised if these were truly the 4th dimensional gates.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!Update /tools gives new link
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+nothingness
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>>15501367
It's atomic weight is a number that might be a clue.
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>>15501406
>>15501367
Irrelevant. Stop.
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>>15501415
Now this is good news!

Scythe, nothingness, and the Ellis Island immigration site were all things that were linked to from /tools.

Nothingness... what does that refer to...
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I caught the scythes and nothingness redirects, but missed ellis island...that's confirmed?
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>>15501543
So what's revellant here.
I was in Salem a few weeks ago.

I think the Salem Witch Museum can be ruled out. Unless they sell devil shaped bookmarks in the gift shop.

Peabody Museum is interesting lead however from the website the museum library has been temporarily relocated.

Hawthorn hotel is interesting.

Salem Library and or the Aenthium.

Perhaps the clue is literal. Maybe it is a bookmark placed inside a book. That seems the most logical and well easiest thing to do. You could place it inside a gideon bible in say hotel room 144.
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>>15501626
what clues point to ANYTHING other than the Hotel?
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tools changed again and page is white like its missing css a message in source reads,
<!-- forgive me -->
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>>15486803
To hell and back again.... quickly someone sever off a hand and grab a shotgun and chainsaw.
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From reddit : NDI3 decoded in Base64 is "427"!
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>>15502010
Well 12739863 then... ok?
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>>15502022
The Abrahamic religions are full of lies and truth and truth and lies or are all truth and all lies or all lies and all truth.
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>>15502052
Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up already.

>>15502010
Useful information. But what do we do with this?

>>15501976
Interesting, but is it useful? Don't know how we could make anything of that.
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UPDATE:
/location now doesn't mention the Devil's bookmark at all, and says "She hated it when I called her Elizabeth."

/message is now blank, but the page source says "Forget me"

/tools is also blank, with the page source saying "Forgive me"
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Guys, is the Orchestrator calling it quits on the ARG? Deleting everything and replacing it with "forgive/forget me" seems pretty extreme, but he's left up the main page and left the thing about Elizabeth...

It might be worth noting that Elizabeth is Nathaniel Hawthorne's mother's name.

I need to know more. I want this to progress.
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>>15502214
Also, one of his lover's was named Elizabeth Peabody. Apparently there's a lot of Elizabeths in the world.

He ended up marrying her sister.
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>>15487132
I just looked it up in the Library of Congress classification system. N (Fine Arts) - D (Painting) - 1300-1337 (Portraits).
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Could 427 be a bible passage?
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>>15496203
0441273807. That is an Australian cell phone number. Should I call? What should I say if someone answers?
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>>15502527
G'DAY MATE I'll HAVE A BLOOMIN ONION!
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>>15502527
I could call... not sure what to say though.
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>>15502605
Just ask about the bookmark. Not that hard
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>>15502527
>>15502584
>>15502605
>>15502623
Guys... goddamnit.

NDI3.com has nothing to do with it. If you call that place, it'll be a dead end.

Please read the thread. Just... alright.
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>>15492240
Nope, just a retard
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after typing the answer "death" into the box, has anybody else gotten a page that says "Good work, are you ready to see just how deep this rabbit hole really goes?"
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got to a page that says "She hated it when i called her Elizabeth."
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whoever is behind the all puzzle stuff, he's among us, watching our errors and progress, maybe giving good or bad advices, and changing the site as we get closer. creepy
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May I ask how did you find the links /tools and /message?
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/* This will not help you on your journey, this is merely a piece of the construct required to deliver a /message */

Why does it say this now?
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>>15502737
The /message was found by an anon looking in the /style.css page.
Don't know about the /tools.
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p.s. i dont respect the matrix reference on the page. transparent.
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>>15502527
Number not connected. That lead went nowhere. Sorry y'all
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changed again... /hell
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I'm disbustering the gatewaytohell.org, i'm at work and the pc is not that fast, it will take many days to bruteforce it all. I'll do it until i leave, and post results. Someone with better specs should do better
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N = 14
D =4
I =9

1+4 = 5 +4 =9 + 9 = 18

Hawthorne Hotel
18 Washington Square W, Salem, MA
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in new england, there are many places people have hidden boxes with odd scrawlings and artifacts. there are also usually sign books in them where you sign your name stating youve found it. i forget what they are called and at this hour im exhausted, but these things are like mini treasure hunts with vague clues that lead to them. they are hidden anywhere from caves to stone walls along residents homes. i thought maybe since there isnt a defined area in the clues youve all discovered that maybe there is one of those boxes in that area. the only time i went and hunted for them was in 1999 in a town in new hampshire, so its hard for me to remember. will try to fine more info on them later on if anyone's interested.
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>>15503256
You're thinking of "geocaches" and while there are at least two in the Salem Common (found them earlier this month) this does not fit the format of how geocaches are placed, indexed, and found.
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>>15503189

Not the same anon, but with 3 that is:

1+4+4+9+3 = 21 = 3

21 is the number for the 9th step in the Fibonacci sequence

when it's 21:00, it's 9 PM

21 September (which is the day in the 9 month) has been said to be the day of the autumnal equinox.

3 could be the number of the trinity, positive, negative and neutral and 3*3 = 9

21 could be a triangle with 2 at the base and 1 at the top.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 Washington Square W, Salem, MA

"21 Washington Sq This is a Single-Family Home located at 21 Washington Square, Salem MA. 21 Washington Sq has 3 beds, 3 ½ baths, and approximately 3,759 square feet. "
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On the Salem Hotel website you can take a virtual tour, Its shows at lot of the rooms in a 360 degree perspective including Nathaniels. A few people in this thread have already mentioned that going there in person seemed a bit extreme so early on in this puzzle, so maybe the clues NDI3 and devils notebook can be seen or otherwise acquired from this tour. Just a thought.
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>>15503345

Interesting is it that if you take a isosceles triangle with base length 42 and height 6.9 and calculate the area you will get 144.9. The 3 could stand for the triangle with it's 3 points.
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>>15503180
As promised, here is the directories i found in gatewaytohell.org

I don't have time to analyze, but i have my insights on the profile, doesnt look so interesting for me
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>>15503407
part 2
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>>15500713
Opinions on this?
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>>15503488
Well fuck, im in Salt Lake City
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>>15503488

I don't think the owner is hosting his site in his home. Do you think so?
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>>15503511
That's not what I was hinting at. It's rather the malware warning I am curious about...

Also, maybe someone can make use of this info. Just trying to contribute
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lol!! So true..."im from mass and with out a doubt the gateway to hell is brockton"
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>>15503515

The location I don't think matter that much, the malware could be important to know about, but you know that a lot of the same domains can share the same IP address right?
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>>15502355
This is interesting!
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>>15503739
We already know the meaning of NDI3
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>>15503761
No you have an idea what it could mean. No one knows because no one has got passed it.
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>>15503768
Holy crap, you guys on /x/ are so behind from the reddit thread,

NDI3 decoded in base 64 results to "427", the same as the blank spacings on /message.

so yeah we have a pretty good idea of what it means
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>>15503883
plus the alt-text to "NDI3" was "room" so we're pretty sure that it's referring to room 427 of the Hawthorne Hotel
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>>15503357
Could these biographies in the Sophia room mean something?

>>15503896
Well, don't all hotel rooms carry bibles and other literature in their cabinets? It wouldn't be hard to hide the clue in such a place without the hotel noticing.
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>>15503896

Lets see what happens when one of you get access to that specific room. Let some have enjoyment with the opportunity to come with alternative theories while one wait, just in case.
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uhh, I live like 20 minutes away from there

time for adventure?
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>>15503940
someone needs to rent room 427 the clue is inside somewhere is all likelyhood.

You might also try your luck with just asking to look inside. The key/clue is probably in a book or a drawer.
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>tfw I'm OP
>tfw lots of other sites involved in the investigation are linking the thread I made
>tfw I feel important
>tfw it's not justified because I was chasing a red herring
>tfw I was propagating disinfo
>tfw I contributed nothing of note to the investigation
>tfw want to help but have only hindered

I'm sorry /x/, I'm a disappointment.
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Someone went to the room
http://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/2mv1g2/gateway_to_hell_mystery/?sort=new
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>>15504228
No problem man. Even just getting people's eyes on it is helping. I posted an update in the reddit thread about our visit to Room 427. It's just easier to get a clear picture there without anons posting other disinfo.
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>>15504390
This is true. So, have you considered the possibility that someone else was there before you and removed the pages, possibly because they saw the clue there?
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>>15504390
>>15504526
To prevent confusion, I mean to ask if you think that someone who WASN'T formerly involved of the puzzle took the clue, not knowing what it was.
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>>15504546
Sure it's possible, though I guess my line of reasoning is that for someone else to find it, they'd have to either be looking for page 666 or they'd have to read the bible cover to cover, which seems unlikely in a hotel room. It's possible someone got there before us, but the "Nothingness" clue might be a nod to its being missing. It would also mean someone had stayed the night there, as it seemed like no one else had asked the staff to see the room before us, judging by their reactions. Again, possible, but perhaps not the most likely solution.
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>>15504647
It just seems too convenient that the exact page was missing. After all, the clues seem to pretty solidly lead to that room, and what's the one way to leave a clue in a hotel room that the maids won't clean away?
By leaving it hidden in something that will remain there. In this case, the Gideon Bible. I think te absence of the page is a hint. Or, perhaps the verses that were on them.
Of course, it's also possible that D was involved in the Orchestration, and that's how he knew to make the suggestion to turn to the page.
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>>15504702
If the verses were a clue, though, they could have easily just been circled or something.
The page's /removal/ seems significant.
Definition of nothingness, anyone?
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>>15504702
I'm pretty confident D isn't a part of it. I had spoken to him a few nights ago when I first went to the precise coordinates, and I didn't get the feeling that he was involved. He only mentioned page 666 when I said we were looking for the devil's bookmark, so it seemed like a logical thing to check. I mean, he still might be, but my gut says no.
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>>15504647
Perhaps there was an object enclosed in the book that fell out when the guest picked up the book. Perhaps it was an actual bookmark with coordinates on it, which the person did not understand and promptly threw away.
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>>15500945
DRAGON BALL Z!
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I hope you faggets realized someone went to room 427 in Hawthorne and page 666 of the bible was missing.

http://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/2mv1g2/gateway_to_hell_mystery/cmb1888
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>>15505245
Yep, that was me.
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>>15505416
Really appreciate you goin' down there.

At this point, however, I'm not sure if there's much else we can do. We went to the place, the page was gone... now what? Was that intentional? Coincidence?

Do we just wait for the Orchestrator to respond via the website?
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>>15505422
>http://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/2mv1g2/gateway_to_hell_mystery/cmb1888
I think it was totally intentional. The missing page might be what was hinted at with the "nothingness" clue, and the nice thing about using a bible is that we can know what was on that page (more or less) while only having the ones before and after it. I've been reading those parts of Proverbs but nothing has clicked with me yet. Either the clue is in the text of the missing page, in the pages before and after it, or someone else spent a night there, found the page, and removed it. The latter doesn't seem as likely to me. We might also just have to bide our time a while and see what else develops.
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>>15505436
That also makes sense. Do you think you could post the scriptures for that page? I'd like to parse through it as well, if possible.
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>>15505450
The missing pages would have contained a bit of Proverbs 26, Proverbs 27 (though those would have been mostly on pg. 665), Proverbs 28, and Proverbs 29 1-15. The Gideons seem to use a translation close to the ESV, though I notice some differences. Another user posted this link to pastebin (http://pastebin.com/bhFjb9Pk) which ends right where 667 picks up, but I can't guarantee it begins where 666 would have begun because there's no easy way to see where the split between 665 and 666 landed.
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now robots.txt reads: kill them all starting with sebastien
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>>15505589
Odd. Herbert Wallace, who was posting as Sebastien, said he considered the Orchestrators friends. And here they are, saying he should be killed. Perhaps they never wanted Wallace to be involved to begin with?
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>>15505806
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>>15505778
He never posed as Sebastien.

http://i.imgur.com/EwfBKlU.jpg
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>>15505811
Yep, I'm stupid
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first one to find the next clue. SO pumped. so it says she didnt like being called elizabeth so i typed in. gatewaytohell.org/lizzy got this:

Elizabeth, my love, who brought me both rapture and at the same time the pain of an infinite torture.

Shivers run up my spine to think I can kill most men with my bare hands, but one glance from her, one trace of her scent, one soft cold wind of her gentle touch can cripple me.

It doesn't matter now. All that is left is the smell of death in the air.

Please god, I don't want to die, please make it so that I never existed. I was never meant to exist.

It was a mistake and I forgive you, please forgive me and unmake me.

8X4.X34.X349 - X as was torn from the mighty warrior.

/love.mp3

then i typed in gatewaytohell.org/love.mp3 got an mp3 file. cant believe this. need help to decipher this.

wirewoodsavage
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>>15505862

>8X4.X34.X349 - X as was torn from the mighty warrior.

What could that mean?
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>>15505899
idk but when i found it i shit bricks. i posted it on all sites. lets try to figure this out.
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>>15505899
apparently the mp3 file is a song by charles manson...thats got to mean something.
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>>15505862

It's a phone number.
x=6
8646346349
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>>15505948
Song by Charles Manson, a serial killer and known member of cults... Anyone dare to play the mp3 backwards?
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>>15506189
Also,I don't know if this was ever done... The door page uses a cookie to log whether or not you picked the right door. Any one read the cookie?
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Anyone remember that hiddenplane.net arg? It started as riddles that were answerable on the website then went to typing the answer into the url. And it too also had an mp3 file for a riddle...
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Funny enough number registered in Anderson SC.
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>>15506683
Has it ever been solved?. Last i tried i ended up in the uncharted.mp3.
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>>15506348
The first cookie is saved once you've entered a password. Name=password, Value=death.

The second cookie is saved when you get to the /hell page. Name=visit, Value=true.

Note that this doesn't change depending on which door you visit, so there's some other logic doing that bit...
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I've taken a look at the whois info for both gatewaytohell.org and gatewaytoheaven.org

Both are registered through a privacy protection service so no personal details are shared, however both websites are hosted on hostmonster.com (as you can see from the name servers).

I looked up the help for hostmonster, and saw that you can get to a control panel for admin access from /securecontrolpanel - so I went there.

Both obviously require username and password, and I'm not about to try and gain access, but on URL redirect it showed that both sites are hosted on a host413 subdomain... I really think none of that is coincidence.
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>>15506009
call it?
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>>15507005
yeah it's an arg
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Called the number.
Distorted voice that basically states 'you need to work together moving forward. When the strength of the top group has been made apparent, there will be more contact'

Very hard to understand the recording.
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Damn I went away for the weekend and missed everything!! From what I get from reading this and reddit threads we are stuck with the number the Lizzy letter provided and the weird message :S
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>>15506922
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