What do we think of John Dee's knowledge? Was he communing with the Fallen Angels or Holy Angels?
Would Holy Angels need ceremonial magick to be summoned and would they need to be scryed?
>>18275036
What evidence is there the angels needed anything?
>>18275058
they allegedly gave Dee complex systems of magick and divination
>>18275036
They are not "angels" they are just entities with their own agendas.
You don't need to scry, but if you do you can have strong visions with practice.
You never need ceremonial magick, but it can help if you are inexperienced or don't have much flux.
Has anyone read the book? How is it? I am utterly fascinated about the Vril society. What is your take on it?
also interested
>>18275141
What's that?
>>18275022
Not real, bud. Sorry.
Hey /x/
Do we have a "helper"?
Through my life I was experiencing stuff like this: I start really wishing for something and it becomes a reality (while still adapting itself into real world rules and ending up in a fucked up way). I feel like someone is trying to help me. I have countless experiences like that, so I was wondering what can it be?
It's called "efficacy." Look it up.
>>18275040
>Efficacy is the ability to get a job done satisfactorily
But it's get fucked up.
The "helper" isn't god either, because he's pretty weak. Also, I never asked foe help so maybe it's the helpers job? Maybe the helper is just having fun? Can I help the helper?
>>18275101
It gets*
I'm tired
Although he/she did a decent job on the last two ones.
This thread is merely a test, a bullet to kill another thread if you will. Also, do not venture out alone after dark in the wilderness. They're still hungry and angry at us.
>>18274980
>>18274981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpov7iKacNo
>>18274980
I literally spend half my leisure time in the wilderness. It's winter so it's dark. I've not been eaten.
How do I summon an Angel to protect me? I think I am hexed.
angels can't remove hexes
>>18274928
Why the fuck not?
Banish.
Lucid dreaming is pretty /x/ right?
Ive been attempting lucid dreaming recently and have run into a...problem. Every time I go lucid (More of semi lucid, i have trouble making things happen when i want them to) I find myself in my own room. But heres the problem...90% of the time there is a shadowy figure in the corner of my room. Its not exactly friendly either, its approaches me and hovers over me and just kinda screams. It leaves me terrified and paralyzed
Im aware of the state im in and have gotten pretty good at breaking the sleep paralysis, its nbd at this point. BUT I cant figure out how to make the shadow go away...Ive tried facing it and laughing at it to show im not scared to no avail. It pretty much takes what little ability i had to influence my dreams away I have next to no knowledge on lucid dreaming or w.e you would call this so im turning to you guys for some help..
>>18274910
Huh, interesting.
Personally the problem I've had with lucid dreaming is that things are always as crazy as all of my other dreams. I find myself aware that I'm dreaming yet being unable to change my surroundings or manifest the power to fly.
My understanding is that in a dream it's not what you want to happen that will happen, it's what you believe will happen that happens. It's just difficult to keep that in mind when you're frantically trying to stay asleep and not suddenly wake up because you've realized you're dreaming.
>>18274910
If you can break the sleep paralysis, try choking it.
>>18275084
Ive seen the shadow thing before but it was a pretty rare occurrence then a particular instance scared me real bad then i stopped. Its always on the back of my mind when ive attempted lucid dreaming since. Thats why i figure its always there since i started again. I dont know how to suppress it. For some reason i also cant seem to NOT get scared when i see it. All it does is scream, im not exactly afraid of it when im not sleeping
Also i have that same problem, I cannot seem to change my surroundings. I fly without thinking about it though, thats kinda my default movement.
>>18275358
Breaking sleep paralysis wakes me up. Besides, its more of a dark mist, i can see through it. I dont think i could physically interact with it
“Do you know, Asclepius, that Egypt is an image of Heaven, or to speak more exactly, in Egypt all the operations of the powers which rule and work in Heaven are present in the Earth below? In fact it should be said that the whole Cosmos dwells in this our land as in a sanctuary.
And yet, since it is fitting that wise men should have knowledge of all events before they come to pass, you must not be left in ignorance of what I will now tell you.
There will come a time when it will have been in vain that Egyptians have honored the Godhead with heartfelt piety and service; and all our holy worship will be fruitless and ineffectual.
The gods will return from earth to heaven; Egypt will be forsaken, and the land which was once the home of religion will be left desolate, bereft of the presence of its deities.
O Egypt, Egypt, of thy religion nothing will remain but an empty tale, which thine own children in time to come will not believe; nothing will be left but graven words, and only the stones will tell of thy piety.
And in that day men will be weary of life, and they will cease to think the universe worthy of reverent wonder and worship.
They will no longer love this world around us, this incomparable work of God, this glorious structure which he has built, this sum of good made up of many diverse forms, this instrument whereby the will of God operates in that which he has made, ungrudgingly favoring man’s welfare; this combination and accumulation of all the manifold things that call forth the veneration, praise, and love of the beholder.
Darkness will be preferred to light, and death will be thought more profitable than life; no one will raise his eyes to heaven; the pious will be deemed insane, the impious wise; the madman will be thought a brave man, and the wicked will be esteemed as good.
As for the soul, and the belief that it is immortal by nature, or may hope to attain to immortality, as I have taught you, – all this they will mock, and even persuade themselves that it is false.
And so the gods will depart from mankind, – a grievous thing! – and only evil angels will remain, who will mingle with men, and drive the poor wretches into all manner of reckless crime, into wars, and robberies, and frauds, and all things hostile to the nature of the soul.
Then will the earth tremble, and the sea bear no ships; heaven will not support the stars in their orbits, all voices of the gods will be forced into silence; the fruits of the Earth will rot; the soil will turn barren, and the very air will sicken with sullen stagnation; all things will be disordered and awry, all good will disappear.
But when all this has befallen, Asclepius, then God the Creator of all things will look on that which has come to pass, and will stop the disorder by the counterforce of his will, which is the good. He will call back to the right path those who have gone astray; he will cleanse the world of evil, washing it away with floods, burning it out with the fiercest fire, and expelling it with war and pestilence.
And thus he will bring back his world to its former aspect, so that the Cosmos will once more be deemed worthy of worship and wondering reverence, and God, the maker and maintainer of the Mighty Fabric, will be adored by the men of that day with continuous songs of praise and blessing.
Such is the new birth of the Cosmos; it is a making again of all things good, a holy and awe-inspiring restoration of all nature; and it is wrought inside the process of Time by the eternal Will of the Creator.”
How did you know I was going to ask for a thread on this guy?
>>18274825
>ayy bruh want some 'alchemy'
Is there any big spooky shit going right now?
Last winter it was Sad Satan and some weeks ago that "Hi Walter i got a new gf today!" video
Is there anything new?
/x/ is dead...
>>18274635
OP lists two bogus n00b magnets as if they were cool, wants more.
>>18274875
tell me some deeper stuff to look at senpai
Post ouija board stories? I've never used one but am planning to this halloween for shits n giggles, try and contact a bunch of dead relatives, summon satan...the usual.
I'm completely skeptical but if you believe in it, what are some good tips? Protection (no ghost aids thx), how to successfully contact someone/thing?
Also general spoopy stories regarding using one.
>>18274603
Stop making threads you retard
>>18274351
>>18274603
Here's the best advice:
DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH THOSE THINGS.
>>18274603
>Friends and I all hanging out.
>One friend says we should do something paranormal.
>Ouija board?
>Ouija board.
>Pulls it out, it looks all weird, not your usual beige wood ouija board, but bright and colorful.
>GetThisWeakShitOuttaHere.spiritsign
>Whatever, we get started, all putting our hands on the pointer thing.
>Friend says
"Are there any spirits among us that would like to speak?"
>Our hands start moving.
>N
>Y
>A
>H
>Stops
>WTF does this mean?
>Friend has a grin on his face.
Says "We got one."
Says "What sort of spirit have we contacted?"
>Pointer moves again
>S
>U
>P
>E
>R
>K
>A
>W
>I
>I
I say "What the fuck is this shit?"
>Grab his bag and look through it.
>Find the Ouija board box.
>Mother fucker bought a Weeby board instead.
My girlfriend is a clairvoyant. Today we invited the ghosts over that inhabit the apartment building.
Now, I can't really prove that to you, but I will answer questions, should you have them.
I am making a trip in case you are feeling odd about this thread. Now you can be sure it is me
did a ghost jump out
>>18274605
That's a good question. A ghost knocked over a broom in the kitchen. Her name is Molly, she has been here since 1923. She died by a gunshot wound. Not in this apartment though, upstairs.
40XDG3723191510
Would this place be creepy to visit? The site of the most powerful nuclear test ever?
Have fun with all the leftover rads and checkpoints on the way there.
>>18274606
He just needs to bring a dog along to kill the guards and see a doctor after leaving to get his rads cleared.
>>18274647
>not stockpiling radaway before you go
why does it seem that a vast majority of occult and magical practices focus on channeling bad/malevolent spirits rather than good ones? what was seen as the benefit of going malevolent over benevolent? are there ways of attracting or channeling said benevolent/good spirits instead of bad ones?
see. here is the deal with that. in our western civilization the catholich church made an effort and did succed to tie personal occultic power to demons and snakes.
and now, when you dream about demons you are automaticly scared of hell and think of them as the bad guys, but in reality they represent personal power and kundalini
>>18274548
So then is Satan not such a bad guy as they make him out to be?
>>18274521
Could it be that possibly these "spirits" are neither bad nor good?
>3 AM
>Me and bf are relaxing in our brand new bed with two cats
>A disembodied breath comes out of fucking nowhere
>It was loud and sounded like a human male
>No fucking cat or wind sounds like that
>Cats get startled
>We both hear that breath
>Bf screams for stepdad
>He comes downstairs, we check the lower level, there is no one here
>All the doors are locked, windows intact/locked
>Cats are acting weird now
>Me and bf are scared shitless
>There are crucifixes on the upper level so I think we are safe
What the fuck /x/, we never had any problems with spirits up until tonight
twas a passing of wind good sire
>>18274436
It was a real Shocker the first time something unexplainable happens isn't it?
I had a similar experience I heard maniacal electronic laughing mocking me suddenly coming from outside after Dark happened a few months ago
It could be humans in chameleon suits, ghosts, Spirits, aliens,momentary contact with another dimension who knows
>Sounded like a human male.
Maybe, doesn't make it there.
>Cat startled/acting weird.
Probably because you're scaring it shitless with your paranoia.
>Everything locked and intact
Because nothing happened.
>Crucifixes
wat
Is this another instance of shitty role playing?
As you all know, Halloween is coming up and some of my friends and I are going to use a Ouija board on Halloween. I'm asking you guys for any advice on how to go about using it without getting killed/possessed by a demon. Basically a guide on how to use it, what not to ask, what to be vigilant for, what to do when (x) happens, etc.
Ouija boards are literally kids toys
Do a ritual and summon a demon instead
>>18274355
Yeah I'd rather not fuck with demons. thanks for the suggestion though
>>18274351
>playing ouija
That's a little gay, isn't it?
Where do demons go when they die? Can they even die or are they just reincarnated into a new copy of their body?
That's kind of a mean question to ask.
>>18274310
How is it mean?
Demons cannot die OP