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"Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it."

-Hebrews 13:2

According to this Bible verse Angels are among us and some people have unknowingly interacted with them

Do you believe you've ever met an angel or is there anyone in the world who you think could secretly be an angel?
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Angels are cunts
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I'm a 37 degrees angle
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What about the when strangers who are secretly witches cross your path. If you rub them the wrong way, they curse you. Be kind to strangers because that witch will F you up.

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Paintings, stories, stuff like the Siberian Hell Sounds, etc.?

Was raised believing in this place. Homeschooled in the woods and I used to have fucking nightmares and pray the prayer of salvation every night just as insurance. Knew it had to be heartfelt, but I was never sure if I was heartfelt enough. Psychological torture, man.
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"I deserved this."
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Sorry you were raised like that anon. I believe in hell myself, as a Christian, but seems like your caregivers were horribly misguided if they thought praying for salvation over and over was what kept one out of it.

I can offer some less insane insight into what I personally believe the Jewish/Christian scriptures says about hell if you're interested.
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>>18800347
Does Jesus specifically mention hell as a physical location anywhere in the bible?
The question just came to mind but I hate opening that fucking book, it might be in the glossary so I guess I'll help you look.

The prospect of eternal damnation and torture is so fucking far removed from the tenets of the entire book that I have always suspected it to be a giant lie.

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I've always been interested in my dreams & what they tell me (when they're not just overtly sexual, because that's pretty self-explanatory) & I've wondered how much contact can be made with the people of my dreams. How much truth is there in Lovecraft's ravings? How much can you interact with Dream People? Does mastery of Lucidity just mean that I can organize my thoughts personally like that Library in Dreamcatcher?

If anything, all I recall is one of the Dream People telling me something very important, which I've naturally forgotten, but implied that chalk was very important. He was standing next to a chalkboard & holding the chalk, making it VERY clear that I at least need to remember the chalk, like it was the key to remembering, the key to understanding...
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>>18799590
>How much can you interact with Dream People?
To a point in which you realize they're all you. Then it becomes awkward. People sometimes start to get lucid there and snap out of dreams.

>Does mastery of Lucidity just mean that I can organize my thoughts personally like that Library in Dreamcatcher?

In my opinion and through my experiences, there's no limits, but no limits become boring real quick.

You can do anything in your dreams.

>implied that chalk was very important. He was standing next to a chalkboard & holding the chalk, making it VERY clear that I at least need to remember the chalk, like it was the key to remembering, the key to understanding...

You have to take everything with a grain of salt.

However, there is a dream type state in where you can see future events, but its always coded, I can give you examples if you like.
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>>18799628
There isn't the idea of a complete lack of mental limits implicating towards the idea that it could create something independent? If there are no limits, why are there?

I can understand that the chalk is clearly symbolic, totemic or key to some kind of understanding, but I've never been able to lucid enough to actually ask for answers. Does this mean there is no outer Dream World or is it just a place within the self?
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>>18799643
>If there are no limits, why are there?

In my opinion and through my experiences, I have found that the reason for limits in different states of consciousness/dreams and waking life are simply to keep you from seeing that everything is the same thing playing that its not.

That's not to say that different levels of consciousness and states of mind don't have duality, its just saying that the duality isn't really there.

>I can understand that the chalk is clearly symbolic, totemic or key to some kind of understanding, but I've never been able to lucid enough to actually ask for answers. Does this mean there is no outer Dream World or is it just a place within the self?

Reading in dreams is very common for me so is having conversations with other "entities", for me it always ends with a realization that they are me, and I am them.


Now you can pretend something means something, or perhaps it does! But to what degree. Perhaps I'm not the person to be responding because I will always give you the bottom line.

I'm not one to pretend. In saying that don't take everything I say as gospel. My experiences may be different to your's, I don't know

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Hey.

I've been noticing people lately they respond base on what i am feeling, Let me explain in a bit of more details and example.

I one time felt depressed and lonely and unloved with deep feeling of misery, I went to my local Denny's to feed the pain away, as i walk-in i met my server who was hitting on me the moment she laid her eyes on me.She would talk to me biting her lips and when i checked out she asked to meet her in the back.

I didn't, I keep noticing patterns of people being controlled by some sort of organism that will do something to comfort you when you're in despair and misery and depressed.

It happened to me again Yesterday i went to a restaurant and my server kept asking me if i was ok, i didn't show anyone around me any emotion or anything at all but she insisted to ask me if i was ok over 7 times in less then an hour, she was also hitting on me.

I lost all hopes at making money and moving on with life and somehow somebody comes in my life and try to help me out...

I'm deeply depressed, lonely, forgotten, and have no hopes for myself or others.

And yet it seems like people i don't know keep trying to comfort me and they don't know me....


Who are these people? sometimes i feel like their aliens or something how do they know???
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girls like brooding assholes
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>>18799507
Anon, are you ok? Depression is a big deal. Is there anything I can do to help you, Hunny?
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They're simulated organisms known as waitresses.
It is their job to make sure you are ok everything is fine.

Do not trust these people they only want you to leave more dollar bills under your plate than you're legally required to.

Have you ever gone looking for the supernatural and actually seen, heard, felt etcetera proof of it? Have you carried out The Three Kings Ritual and seen shadows dancing in the corner of your vision? Have you heard whispers from people you couldn't see when investigating supposedly haunted buildings? Have you ever been visited by shadow people during an episode of sleep paralysis?

Is there any concrete way for me to experience what you've experienced concerning the supernatural? I want to believe.
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Paranormal Laundry List: The Thread
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Shadow people during sleep paralysis, voices that don't have an owner, plates flying out of cupboards for no reason, a librarian taught me chi manipulation when I was in highschool and I definitely felt something when I did the exercises.
Also shadow people in my lucid dreams, that one genuinely spooked me, other stuff I could sorta deal with, except the sleep paralysis, hated that.
Personally I'm a bit of a nihilist and sort of "believe" in the scientific methods, but I'm also into Hermetical Alchemy and I'm pretty sure human understanding of science is limited so while I may be skeptical I do tend to have an open mind and like to try out supernatural stuff. Unless it involves looking into a mirror in the dark, something is fucking wrong with that and I'm willing to believe there's something entirely eldritch and wrong with mirrors.
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I was innawoods and I saw Acromantula, a Ashwinder, a Augurey, a Bandicoot, a Basilisk, a Bat, a Bazaar, a Bicorn, a Billywig, a Blast-Ended Skrewt, a Bowtruckle, a Bundimun, a Centaur, a Chicken, a Chimaera, a Chizpurfle, a Clabbert, a Cockatrice, a Crup, a Diricawl, a Dog, a Doxy, and a Dragon.

That night I dreamed of a Giant Dung Beetle, a Giant Squid, a Glumbumble, a Gnome, a Golden Snidget, a Graphorn, a Griffin, a Grindylow, a Groupie's behind, a Hippocampus, a Hippogriff, a Hoo-hoo, a Horklump, a Horned Serpent, a Imp, a Jarvey, a Jobberknoll, a Kappa, a Kelpie, a Knarl, a Kneazle, and a Leprechaun.

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In the before times, the Crusade knights including the Templars and Teutonic were deemed heretics by the Pope and were ambushed and leaders killed by orders of the Pope.

Were they heretics or did the Pope hide his heretical ways?
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It's heresy to call the pope a heretic in Catholicism.
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>>18799297
Well they kicked me out so I get to do what I want
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How were you kicked out?

The templars were secret gnostics. I dont know if they were founded as that or something they discovered in or near the ruins of Solomon's temple or people there. I suspect it went gnostic when they took up the name of templar, but whether it began that way with the small bands of knights I dont know.

When discovered it was suppressed. They were involved in banking, but I think this is overplayed by people trying to mislead into tying it into Jewish money conspirscy theories. I think the same for the protocols, some truths, mixed with lies, to get people looking at Jews.

When they were disbanded some went to Scotland, and influenced the Freemasons.

Yes they were heretics, but its for you to decide who is right.

The true origin of freemasond as organized was an early professional labor like union, to reduce oppression. It later took on mystical significance with templar influence and make the society today. The templars were monks, and knights, they took vows of poverty and didnt use their wealth. The banking system was a rival to the nobles dominance thru hereditary farm land. Historic freemasonry was involved in the French and American revolutions overthrowing dynastic wealth. Modern freemasonry is a corrupted networking club supporting the elite. This is how the templars really died. Killing them had them survive in freemasonry, the real solution was to corrupt them from within.

The Cathars were gnostic. Uniquely in Cathar lands inheritance was split up amongst children, rather then to the oldest male. This worked to slowly destroy dynastic wealth.

Although the Catholic church today is largely a cub, not a lion. A place where ascetics can still join monk orders, a place of charity. Unlike thr templars bastard child freemasonry.

Legend has it a test as you got near the top of the knights templars was they asked you to vow secrecy for what they did next. After that they told you to spit on a cross and said they werent Christian.

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Whenever you visit fringechan.org you get a "in maintenance mode" error. It's been like this for a couple months atleast, is it dead? Also occult art dump
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Abrahamic religions teach that he's God's adversary, an evil, age old entity at the cusp of godhood that delights himself on the pain, suffering and corruption of humanity. Adherents to Christianity, Islam, Judaism etcetera are left to assume that he's either evil just for the fuck of it or that he does what he does out of spite for God due to jealousy, but wouldn't an almost all knowing and all powerful entity be above such pettiness? I doubt that anyone or anything with the power to do almost anything would take pleasure from hurting people or their souls for all eternity. A lot of people used to fuck with ants by roasting them with magnifying glasses or by trampling over their hills as children, but eventually everyone grows out of that immature phase so why wouldn't Lucifer? Furthermore why would Satan even take pleasure in being a cunt to begin with if he's so much more powerful and intelligent than mere mortals? His characterization in religious scripture seems very unbefitting for a deity of his stature.

What I'm trying to ask is if The Devil gets a fair rep in The Bible, Qur'an, Torah etcetera. After all humanity has only heard "God's side of the story" if that makes sense. Could it be that he had at least a halfway decent reason for leading his rebellion against God or for doing the things that he does? Is he akin to the leader of a cosmic terrorist organization that does terrible things for what it deems a noble cause?

What do you guys think?
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>>18799175
In Jewish Texts he's more of a gadfly than pure evil. He also strangely gives advice that leads towards the path of Righteousness. He became an evil boogeman later.
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He's pretty darn evil
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>>18799193
Can you cite any verses of The Old Testament in which he's mentioned, please?

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I'm trying to find a translated copy of The Great Book of Knowledge (in arabic كتاب المعارف الكبرى).
It's about djinns, black magic, summonings and is forbidden in almost all islamic countries. Would be nice to find a copy in english, I know here there are some knowledgable people between all the roleplayers. Thank you.
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The Devils Quran comes pretty close.
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>>18799169
So you have read this one?
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Bump Im pretty curious as a Muzzie.

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Hello.

Not sure if this the right place to post this, but I've been noticing that in some days people will speak about a certain subject or act in certain way.

To be honest I don't know if it's just a coincidence, or maybe I'm seeing patterns that I've imagined, and I try to confirm them.

For example, the past couple of days I saw a lot of people talk about the dreams their having. Most of these people don't speak about their dreams at all, then suddenly they all do. Not only that, I also noticed that those dreams are about their anxiety. Stuff like being humiliated, getting killed, or killing a loved one by accident, stuff like that.

What's going on here? And anyone noticed this? Like I said, it could very be that it's just me noticing patterns in clouds, and I'm trying to stay very skeptical, and rational. But I don't know I just keeping seeing it.
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>>18799128
are the people you are referencing people who physically live in your region, or widely dispersed through the internet?
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>>18799149
Good question. I should've made it clear. Yes all those people are in my region. Almost all of them are the same city.
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>>18799196
well, just throwing it out there for the sake of conversation but there is conspiracy theory about E.L.F. extra low frequency sound waves being used to alter human perception, thought and or memory. perhaps causing nightmares.

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trading
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I'm here to talk about tarot and tarot theory. Not doing any readings, though.
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>>18799112
I asked if someone would miss me while they were away on a trip and got 9 of wands, two of wands, and three of swords. Thoughts?

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>be me
>be 7 years ago
>mom dumpster diving
>me being a teenager sees a book she brought home
>It said "Freemason" or something like that on it.
>Inside was writing of alchemy amongst other things I forget
>I showed her it, she thinking it was spooky told me to throw it away
>about 5 years later I am watching TV, a documentary on freemasonry
>The documentary talks of a lost freemason book that is so rare and unique that would be nearly impossible to find.

Did I throw away the lost book, /x/?
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>>18798962
yeah. good work.
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>>18798962
Good job man
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>>18798962
gg op

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Anyone have any firsthand experience with Jerusalem syndrome?

My cousin visited Israel and felt really sick while he was there for no apparent reason, not sure if before or after visiting Jerusalem, and has been feeling a bit off ever since, by his own account. But that's about it. Not sure if even related.
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>>18798914
huh, is this like the holy land's version of montezuma's revenge?
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>>18798914
Intoleranticus Semeticus
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>>18798941
Prolly

Op's friend shouldn't have drank the water

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So now that he's rotting in hell how will the NWO be affected?
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>>18798785
He's not really dead
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>>18798785
Fuck old people are ugly
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Look at those eyes, you think he was alive before they declared him dead?
He's been dead for years, he just needed a new puppet so that body was abandoned.

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