How did people develop NES games back in the day? Did they use DOS or something? Fuck, maybe even an Apple II?
>>3380740
Assembly code
>>3380740
Pen and paper.
>>3380740
Sometimes they literally used pen and paper. Sprites and things like that were translated into assembly code by hand or through crude implementations using PCs of the time. Then the game was either burned onto an EEPROM and used in a special socketed cartridge, or it was sent directly to the NES CPU through a custom rig they built. Every company did it differently.
https://youtu.be/5PxGM1np2hU
>>3380657
Don't act like every Youtube vid is "e-celeb". The majority of them are just entertainers who use the games as props. If people are making legitimate documentaries then fine.
>>3380641
>3D graphics have become dated, Symphony has aged like fine wine
closed video.
Any Cybernator/Assault Suits Valken fans out there?
IMO it is an amazing game in everything from story and music to graphics and gameplay. Rarely if ever mentioned despite this
>>3379670
Quite a lot actually. It's not as well know as some SNES classics, but it's still far from obscure.
I only played the Genesis/SFC titles, pretty solid games. Haven't finished them yet so I didn't jump into the other games
>>3379670
I remember being blown away by just about every aspect of the game. The music in particular got me really pumped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLnDcIn03wc
I also discovered the napalm weapon on my own, since the trick to unlock it is identical to the trick to get all weapons in Target Earth/Assault Suit Leynos.
PC games with local multiplayer thread? So far I downloaded C-Dogs and Liero.
>>3378908
Zombies ate my neighbors, Battletoads, Cadilaccs&Dinosaurs, Brawlhala, Worms, Trine, Gungeon.
>>3380838
There's a PC version of Zombies Ate My Neighbors??
>>3380863
Emulators???
Never really see this game mentioned on /vr/ Probably one of the better games on the ps1.
Its on my ever growing backlog
Bump for great ost.
I played this for the first time last year. Loved it; music is great and it's tons of fun.
Mint a best.
Beat retro game or console finds at a flea market or online
Today I found a retro shop that I didn't know about that actually HAD good SNES games like Super Metroid and Kirby Super Star. I ended up buying too much and now I am scared I got ripped off.
The prices online don't seem too different.
>>3378676
>I am scared I got ripped off
>The prices online don't seem too different.
Yep, sounds like you got hosed. Keep feeding the retro inflation beast buddy. Someday you'll learn about emulation.
>>3378676
>i thought i was ripping people off but ended up paying a fair price
>i gor ripped off
So the advertisement for it mentions playing the classics in "HD".
Is there any trickery going on in this little machine that's helping translated these made for CRT images onto HD TV's?
Or is it just straight up emulation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAGVilt3Rls
>>3377157
nobody knows yet
>>3377157
No it's a 1:1 miniature hardware clone with an RGB PPU and an XRGB upscaler for $60
99% sure it's just an emubox like the Atari re-releases. Just look at the ad material directly above which features 30 games
anyone like the old Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games?
Yeah, I'm down with it. What do you want to discuss?
>>3376057
PlayStation 2 is apparently not old enough to be allowed on /vr/ yet so let's limit this to THPS1 and THPS2.
pleasedisregard the horrible PS1 versions of THPS3 and 4. (they are fucking ATROCIOUS. you can't even do an indy grab on your create-a-skater.)
anyway, do you think THPS1 or THPS2 is better?
personally I like both.
THPS2 obviously has the big addition of the manual, which changes things up a lot, as well as more tricks, create-a-skater, better soundtrack (full songs instead of 2 minute edited clips) and create-a-park, as well as other features.
but sometimes when I'm playing THPS2 I miss some of the THPS1 levels.
why can't they have all the levels in the same game but with THPS2's engine?
>tfw Tony is the only goofy-footed skater on THPS1 but he can't do a 360 flip because he's vert
Why are opinions on this game so divisive? You'll either get people calling this one of the best jrpgs ever or people calling it absolute shit that paled in comparison to Trigger.
>>3375857
Most, if not all criticisms seem to stem from people who are angry at Cross not only because it wasn't related "enough" to Trigger, but also because it "shat" all over its story by killing the main characters and making you play through the perspective of some characters who think Crono and company were actually wrong.
These people obviously pretend that the entire setting, history and antagonist factions of the game are not reskins/continuations of Trigger plot points, and they seem blissfully unaware that the point of the game is to prevent Crono and co. from dying and not succeeding.
But seriously, beyond that it's hard to find criticisms that aren't relative. The main one that may be construed as making it absolute shit is some people saying the battle system is "bad" or "convoluted". I'd say it's customizable to the point of being annoying if you want to "max" everything out, but it's far from "bad", and it's so simple/easy that most of the game leans towards cakewalk territory, and that's the most legitimate complaint I've seen.
Another common complaint is "too many characters" but that's just being whiny, nobody forces you to use them and it's just fun content to toy around with, why would it be a negative? Most of them are unabashadly unrelated to the main plot so it's not like the game pretends they matter. Again, it's only an issue if you want to max everyone out, but then again why would you?
Beyond that, the battle music being bad or the pacing being shit are real complaints but far from deserving the title of "absolute shit". I dunno. From what I've seen very few criticisms are level-headed and it's mostly people mad about it not being more like Trigger.
I think most opinions is that it's a mediocre JRPG with pretty good music and pretty pre-rendered backgrounds.
I haven't seen people saying it's an absolute shit, or anyone calling it one of the best ever. From overrated PS1-era JRPGs, the overrated unfinished pos is Xenogearsjust kidding, I love that one, but holy shit that disc 2.
>>3375857
Well, I know nothing, but a cheap copy of the game popped up recently and I'm getting it, so I'll report back in on my opinion of the game when I start.
best manuals?
We already have a ton of spam threads on the board, why must you add to it?
>>3375560
Not him, but what's wrong with a good ol' manual thread?
>>3375569
Take a look at OP's image.
What was THE independent gaming mag back in the day?
>>3374948
It felt like all gaming mags in the 90s were based.
What do you mean by "THE"?
>>3374961
Best or most well known. The one that you have to read if you can only read one.
..because I want to read some.
The worst of the worst of retro vidya game cover art, the thread
>>3373334
That wasn't even the actual box art. I mean, the actual art isn't much better, but it's not that hideous.
>>3373334
Jesus christ what the fuck is that
>>3373442
It was considered as the coolest hair cut in the eighties.
Think about what people will think about your actual stupid haircut in thirty years.
>"PS1 may have been the better console, but Saturn had the best 2D"
What are these 2D games I keep hearing about?
>>3372856
2D refers mostly to sprite rendering.
>>3372856
Layer Section
Battle Garegga
Metal Slug
Samurai Shodown
X Men vs. Street Fighter
Vampire Savior
Just to name a few, there's a lot more
>>3372856
Don't fall for this delicious may may, PS1 was better able to render 2D due to having a true 32bit bus architecture. The Saturns bus was 16bit, requiring twice as many word transfers which limited the framerate.
Which ones you wish you got? I got inspires by "the World according to SF"
>>3368992
Like, i wanted some bellydanzas more often.
>>3368992
>Which ones you wish you got?
Poland
it's interesting how good SNK was at the whole global diversity thing.
For a long time their biggest hero was pure American. None of this 3/4th Japanese crap and they even had the whole universe bet set in Southtown USA before going international with KOF.
And yeah they got the usual YOUNG JAPANESE HERO thing going now there's still a shit town of Americans, a shit town of Hispanics, plenty of Koreans, a Canadian or two, some Italians etc
Is this game any good? I have never seen it commented here.
Yes it's good. Also, it takes place BEFORE Lufia 1 so you don't need to feel bad if you play it without playing the notably inferior original.
I played through it. Very much a traditional jrpg. It is a looooong game, holy shit and a big world map. It also has a million different items. Some interesting side quests and places to explore, characters are all two dimensional jrpg archtypes.
Fights are kinda boring, monsters are invariably pallet shifted and you'll run into a monster encounter every 3 steps in a dungeon, it's a real chore. I alwa
I never finished it because the last battle is way hard.
One protip, it's cheaper to warp back to the first town to use the inn every time, since they get extremely expensive as you progress through towns.
>>3359268
>the last battle is way hard
I can't take the rest of your post seriously after this. The final boss is absurdly easy, to the point that it's almost a meme.
There's nothing you can't steamroll once you get Wave Motion, including the final boss. And that's at relatively low levels. If you actually went and did the secret stuff or grinded for high levels, there's just no way you can lose.
Also you didn't even mention the Ancient Cave, a randomized "roguelike" mode where your levels are reset to 1 and your equipment temporarily removed, where you can obtain cool special weapons and armor that you can use in following runs or the main game. It's really fun, and using a special tool you can customize a ROM for taking extra advantage of that dungeon:
http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/1170/
It allows to raise/lower difficulty, change music, number of floors and environment types, unlock the GIFT mode on fresh start and other goodies to suit it to your needs.