the most predictable strategy?

>>24595604

Tons of OU Pokemon are predictable

Predictable doesn't mean anything if your opponent can't stop you

>Arceus used Swords Dance
>Arceus used Extremespeed

>>24595604
speaking of which, why exactly is this better than belly drum unburden sitrus berry slurpuff?
it has more coverage, gets much faster and acess to drainpunch.

>>24595648
Because it has priority STAB and is a fuckload lot stronger.

Go away, Verlis.

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>protect

>>24595648
It has far better bulk, typing, strength and access to priority.

>>24595604
Probably any team with Skarmory and one of the blobs. For Gen VI, TTar and Charizard on the same team usually means it is Charizard-Y.

>>24595604
no one runs belly drum azumarill. Its the worst set

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>>24595604
GUYS LOOK OUT IT CAN DO ANYTHING DON'T JUST EXPECT A RAGE POWDER

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>Spore
>Substitute

If you're playing Gen 4, add in Focus Punch for good measure.

>>24595662

Sacrificed for electric weakness and grass weakness with little defensive bulk.

>>24595781
>Little defensive bulk

Azu's 100/80/80 is as good, if not better than Slurpuff's 82/86/75.

Again, go away Verlis.

>>24595750
av is the worst set

>>24595798

And the typing? Also quit crying verilis. It makes you look retarded.

>>24595959
Water/Fairy is a better typing than just mono-Fairy, what ABOUT the typing?

You trade the weakness to grass and electric for a resistance to steel, fire, ice and a lot more. Water is a fantastic defensive typing.

>>24595959
Pure Fairy and Water/Fairy are both excellent typings, not much difference worth noting. Grass/Electric weaknesses suck but having 2 stab types is more than worth it.

>>24595648
Slurpuff has crap for coverage, many sets run Return because they don't have a good 4th move. Azumarill has Knock Off and Superpower to choose from, as well as Water STAB for getting super effective hits on those gay sand hippos. Those very same gay sand hippos give Slurpuff trouble.

>>24595604
>haze

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>>24595697

Hippowdons with either Leftovers or Assault Vests.

>>24600825

>Reading comprehension

>>24596898
>not using Unaware
>wanting to get your non-Water-resistant ass obliterated by +6 Aqua Jet

>>24600825
>"Hippowdons with item"
>"if it has a weakness it isn't good"

???

>>24595648
Banded Scizor obliterates it, and can take pretty much any hit Slurpuff throws at it. Even at +6.

While Bellydrum Azumarill can take a Bullet Punch and retaliate with Superpower (At +6). And Banded Azumarill also takes quite a chunk out of Scizors health.

>>24595662
>Viable set on a weakish mon
>Verlisfy
Why is /vp/ so shit

>>24600772
>AV hippowdon
What is this a VGC thing?

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>opponent sent out Klefki
>Klefki used Swagger!
>Klefki used Foul Play!

>>24601117
Nobody's saying that the set isn't viable.

The anon was implying the set was more viable than Azu, which is just bullshit and something Verlis would say, because it's one of his favorite mons.

On the flip side...
Which mon is the most unpredictable?

>>24601303
Garchomp and Mewtwo come to mind.

>>24601303
Aegislash apparently.

>>24601303

Judging from the OU stats, Charizard, Gengar and Hoopa.

>>24601341
I have a gengar with no ghost moves (by accident) so I guess I can see that.

>>24601303
Clefable

>>24595776
I play it in Gen 6 with that moveset and kek whenever it trolls someone.

>>24601303
Sableye hands down.
The big question is if it megas or not, but also predicting WoW, Toxic, Taunt, Recover, Knock Off, etc. is nerve racking as well. Bonus points if you put another pokemon that commonly megas on your team.

>>24600772
AV seems counterproductive, Hippos greatest strength is it's ability to use supportive moves such as Stealth Rocks and Whirlwind along with reliable recovery in Slack Off.

>>24601303
Sableye

>>24601363
It's actually common for Gengar to run Sludge Bomb or Sludge Wave with no Ghost moves, so no dice there.

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>Ninjask used Swords Dance!
>Ninjask's Attack sharply rose!
>Ninjask hung on by using its Focus Sash!
>Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its Speed!
>Ninjask used Protect!
>Ninjask protected itself!
>Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its Speed!
>Ninjask used Baton Pass!
I still love that little guy, even if he's completely outclassed now.

>>24601303
Hoopa-U and Ditto guess..

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>>24601527

>Scolipede used Substitute!
>Scolipede's Speed Boost raised its Speed!
>Scolipede used Protect!
>Scolipede protected itself!
>Scolipede's Speed Boost raised its Speed!
>"Look, you're at +3 and you outspeed my entire team. You don't need to reach +6. Just pass the boost already."
>...
>Scolipede used Substitute!
>Scolipede's Speed Boost raised its Speed!

>>24601754
I will never understand this. Everybody thinks they need to have +6 or they won't outspeed, but that actually hurts them because scoli won't be able to do much with low health.

is choice band azumarill really good? you know because is slow as shit?

>>24601951
i like the banded set more than belly drum one

>>24601303

greninja. It got banned for being too hard to predict.

>>24601951
>>24601970
>not predicting you'll need to predict a switch
>not running Bulldoze and Shell Bell on your BellyJet set for this very purpose
>not predicting the switch and nailing whatever comes in with Bulldoze
>not predicting the Ol Oh Shit Double Switcheroo and using Belly Drum as they switch out
>not proceeding to rape and heal for the rest of the match

>>24601951
CB azu is still a threat. All you need is 64-72 speed to outrun clef, the rest you dump into attack and hp

>>24601527
>Priority

>Protectors
Mega Beedrill
Mega Diancie
Scolipede
Sharpedo
Gliscor
Breloom
(Mega) Blaziken
Yanmega

>Sash Kabash
Breloom
Darkrai
Deoxys-A
Deoxys-S
Blaziken
Smeargle

>Defoggers
Latias
Skarmory
Giratina-A
Staraptor
Togekiss

>Destiny Bonders
Froslass
(Mega) Gengar
Sharpedo

>Thunder Wavers
Thundurus
Togekiss
Primal Groudon
Ferrothorn
Blissey
Chansey

>>24595633
maybe if you play against sub 1110 scrubs :^)

>>24603709
>Destiny Bonders
Don't forget Mega Banette.

>>24603709
What's the best thing to do against Protectors anyway?

I always worry that because my opponent might be thinking 'he knows I'm gonna Protect turn 1 so instead I'll attack while he switches/sets up'

>>24603746
Get lucky good.

>>24603746
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Feint_(move)

>>24595648
>more coverage
Confirmed for not having a fucking clue.

>>24603709
Don't forget fake out.

Lopunny
Ambipom
Medicham
Kangaskhan

>>24601303
Anything with more than 3 sets. Hrdest to predict?

-Greninja, since having a slightly different coverage move changes how you have to counter it.
-Arceus, because Team Preview won't tell you what Plate it has, and it has tons of sets, although most are based on Calm Mind or Swords Dance.
-Lucario can go Physical Special, or mixed, making it hard to predict too.
-Mew has many viable sets, people just aren't all that creative with it for some reason. You got Nasty Plot, Baton Pass, Super Fang, Stallbreaking, using Mew as Wall, Tank Mew, it can really do any job you want. Only reason it isn't used more is Knock Off is everywhere.

>>24601754
He's Planning on Baton Passing to Rhyperior so it can outspeed your Deoxys-Speed?

How much boosts would Rhyperior need to outspeed Deoxys? Is it even possible?

>>24603890
if both are full Spe invested and with favourable natures it is possible but there isn't any point to do it

>>24603983
You could do it because having your slow Rhino outspeed Sanic Deoxys is funny. It's fun to do stupid fun crap with pokemon you like.

>>24604101
>playing for fun

>>24595750
What about Encore trapping them before Belly Drumming? That can work.

>>24603709
Defoggers
>staraptor
This is a thing? I don't care about talonflame, that things is an ability with a pokemon attached, star is best bird, sad to see it as a defogger.

I mainly play doubles:

Perish trap
Spam Hyper Voice
"Kangaskhan used Fake Out!"
Rage powder
Origin Pulse/Precipice blade spam (on the 3DS free battles)
Dark Void

>>24603709
>defog staraptor
You must be a special brand of elo hell to believe this

>>24604744

Smogonfag detected

>>24603709
>defog staraptor

Literally what. Tell me you mistook that for "Zapdos."

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>>24600840
>mfw sword dance Talonflame and my Talonflame counter is around 40%