Blaziken should be unbanned, discuss.

Most ubers should be unbanned.

I'd love to see Arceus Bug in OU.

Unbanned from what?
And why?

>>24588179
Just play ubers desu

>>24588182
OU in showdown. With Baton Pass nerfs and stuff like M-Altaria around it wouldn't be OP at all.

>>24588186
But there Arceus Bug is shit.

I'd play AG, but the Showdown ladder is full of scrubs until the 1700s, and I can't bother to ladder that high.

>>24588165

what about mega mawhile? Mega mawhile sucks horribly in ubers.

>>24588208
Dunno about M-Mawile or any other mons, all I'm saying is Blaziken isn't Uber material and is perfectly fine in OU.

>>24588165
Vanilla? Yeah it would be fun. Even with a Life Orb it doesn't hit hat hard, and it gets checked hard by a number of things in the tier.

Mega, hell no. Even if it doesn't his as hard it has hella more bulk, more Speed, and eats up Knock Off like nothing. Things that counter vanilla might not even check Mega, like Mega Altaria, Hippo, Latias, Slowbro, or Mega Aero.

Answer me this

Why the fuck does Blaziken have the ability to learn Brave Beard, aside from the fact that it's based off a type of chicken.

>>24588327
>Brave Beard
Kek, did you mean Brave Bird?
Because chickens are birds dumbass. What does Blaziken look like, an owl?

>inb4 m-muh Crobat
>inb4 Aerodactylfag tears.

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>>24588165
It never got banned in the best format :^)

>>24588218

Neither is m-mawhile its countered by basically half the tier.

>>24588313
Yeah I meant vanilla.
Mega is disgusting.

Unban Darkrai first.

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>>24588165
I just want Spookysword back in OU

;-;

>>24588165
Ninja frog sould be unbanned first

>>24588839
>>24588820
Those two also need to be unbanned.
I just wanna play them without having to deal with box legendaries and disgustingly op megas.

>>24588865
Spookysword can come back when GF nerfs King's Sheild.

>>24588877
It's not OP at all.

>>24588877
If King's Shield was a full Protect I'd agree with you. but you can still get status and effects through. and special attackers don't lose any stats either.

but I always carried around a taunter for Aegislash back in the day to cut out the kings shield games.

>>24588880
Its more OP than Mega Mom. Bring back Mega Kangaskahn leave Aegislash in Ubers. Its more op than any Mega.

>>24588877

You really gotta suck if you think kings shield is OP

greninja, aegislash, m-mawile, deoxys-d, and deoxys-s should all be unbanned

>Greninja
literally had no good reason to be banned. Its extremely frail, hit by all statuses and hazards, dies to priority and so on. Its honestly nowhere near good enough to be banned.

>Aegislash
also hated by smogonfags because mixed sets are possible. Its simply not that great. Extremely easy to play around and take advantage of.

>M-Mawile
Literally why. Its not even that good. It has a great typing sure, and priority in sucker punch, but thats all. Too slow and will die instantly against any offensive team. All its good for is facing stall, which explains why smogonfags hate it.

>Deoxys D and S
They both literally serve one purpose in Ubers, setting up hazards. And thats literally the only reason they're in Ubers, smogonfags cant have that.

Blaziken is kinda a mixed bag for me though.

>>24588940
Mega Lucario, Arceus-Bug (and a lot of other useless ones like Psychic), vanilla Blaziken and normal Deoxys should be unbanned too.

>>24588940
With a lot of ORAS additions there's little reason to keep Vanilla Blaze in ubers.

>>24588956
Vanilla Blaziken for sure,
I forgot about normal deoxys, that too.

Mega Lucario is pretty terrifying, but its not fast enough to warrant a ban i guess, so sure

can the plates be knocked off of arceus? If not, then yeah they should be unbanned

>>24588960
sorry, I was mainly referring to the mega, vanilla blaziken has no reason to be banned.

>>24588975
the thing with mega luke is it has many forms of priority at his disposal and can be either physical or special
i haven't seen it in action so i don't have any opinions on it though

>>24588975
The plates can't be knocked off.

Arceus would be pretty terrifying in OU though, no matter the form. 120 across all stats, access to defog, resistant to knock off, access to boosting moves and extremespeed.

>>24588906
Just becasue it doesn't block status doesn't mean its not OP. Sleep is the only status that hinders Master Sword. Burning Aegislash means nothing as no one runs purely physical sets.

ITT: shitters that never went past 1500 and never had any actual experience with Pokemon in question against legitimate players.

>>24589020
Encore.

>>24588989
Mega Lucario got banned because it up-setted Smogon's precious Gen V Legendaries OU Class.

Seriously, Smogon really has a fucking hard-on for Gen V Legendaries to the point that anything that might outclass them gets banned to Ubers.

>>24589044
>Aegislash switched out.

>>24588195
it would suck in OU too if most ubers went down.

>>24589069

So you forced a switch? You dummy.

>>24589120
>252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Arceus-Bug: 300-354 (67.5 - 79.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>>24588820
Me too, we should have a suspect where it's temporarily put back in to see how it's changed with the meta changes.

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Only if I get to be unbanned too.

>>24589422
>Togess: Sanic Edition: Now with Seed Flare

Hellz naw lil nigga. Spooky Sword, Greninja, and Deo-D are all good. Maybe Deo-S and Mawile too, but I'm more apprehensive about them.

Shaymin-S tho? Fuck that shit I like moving.

>>24589374

mega luppony and mega sableye take a giant shit all over it.

Kings shield gives aeigislash a fighting chance against luppony though.

>>24588335
>Implying owls are birds
an oldie but a goodie

>>24589929
>Mega Lop
HAH. You're dumb. Mega Lop Durant get a free pass around Kings Shield. In fact, you have even more to lose because of HJK recoil.
>Mega Sableye
Better, but still 2HKO by Shadow Ball I think.

The real Aegis answers are Tankchomp, Mixed Hippo, and Gliscor. Basically fat Grounds.

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>>24588165
Can we all take a moment to reflect on the sheer shittiness of that gmod screencap

Just...

it's so BAD, on every conceivable level, from map choice to pose to composition to lighting.