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Why is Pokken Tournament failing?

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/10/20/japan-pokken-tournament-being-pulled-from-arcades-due-to-unpopularity/
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>posting old news
>posting news that have been disproven
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Because people were,for some reason, under the mistaken impression that it would be a tournament viable fighting game and not a casual party game with very little depth
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>>24573591
>>posting old news
I never come around here nor do I follow Pokemon news that much in general.

>>posting news that have been disproven
Show me what disproves it.
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>Pokken
>Not Pokemon Kombat

You had one job
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>>24573596
It ought to have some tournament viability if the word 'Tournament' is in it's title.
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>>24573604
too lazy to link, just look for it in neogaf thread or serebii twitter

tl;dr it's only one arcade store (who was already downsizing) and Pokken is currently the third most-successful arcade machine
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>>24573604

It's one arcade and Pokken is currently the third-most popular arcade machine in all of Japan.
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>>24573585
You tried
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>>24573604
http://www.am-j.co.jp/

Literally kill yourself.
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>>24573658
>Literally kill yourself.
no
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>>24573671
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>>24573585
the turn off for me was the lack of a roster. You have 700+ mons to choose from, at least expand the roster to 25-30.

give us those fighting types who were born for this game. Hitmonchan, Gallade, Scrafty, Toxicroak, Chesnaught.

sticking with fan favorites like charizard and lucario is just the safe bet and shows that they're worried about the game succeeding, and not willing to take way too much risk in making a fighting game.
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>>24573585
>MyNintendoNews
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>>24573697
This. It looks like they want varied gameplay instead the same boring ass "fighting styles" that a thousand other games have. I mean what other games let you play as a freezing quadruped? Who wants that, let's just play as the same fucking boxer guy another damn time.
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For those who care, a leak has shown Pokken (along with DDR2014 and NeonFM) is part of Dave and Buster's Winter game collection. They will probably start popping up in December.
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>>24573585
>MyNitnendoNews

>>24573697
>You have 700+ mons to choose from

I want this meme to die.

If you exclude 90%+ of Irrelevant NFE mons and a lof of shit like Vanilluxe, Omastar. Muk, Fortress, Ferrothorn, Butterfree, Dugtrio, Dewgong, AND A SHIT TON MORE Pokemon that simply won't fit with how the game play, you're extremely far from having 700 Pokemon to choose from, yet along 250 probably.
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>>24573702
Where'd you find this?
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>>24573916
It's been making its way around various DDR forums. They're from an employee at a Texas D&B who are getting the machines in late November. The location test on those games went well enough to start letting locations order the machines.
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>>24573596
Why would I pay for a party game in an arcade? If the game's shitty and only good for quick fun and I have the option to play something that actually does have thought into it, I'm going to go with the latter. Besides, like the other anon said, if you're going to call it "Tournament" it should have some tournament depth.
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>>24573585
>within the next 15 years there will be a traditional Pokemon RPG game but with this battling style
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>>24573896
Suicune doesn't fit but it's there somehow, if you can make Suicune work you can probably make a lot of shit work. And surely there are enough viable choices that you don't need TWO PIKACHUS.
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>>24574092
It's tournament because the game is about Pokemon fighting in a tournament.
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>>24574092
>If the game's shitty and only good for quick fun and I have the option to play something that actually does have thought into it, I'm going to go with the latter.
The thing about fighting games with depth is that you're likely never going to see any of the depth unless you play it religiously. Pokken is just a game that's fun to play with friends at the arcade.
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>>24573604
>Show me what disproves it.
The author is a confirmed Sony shill, and this news covers only a single arcade. The title is literally just clickbait.
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>>24574262
I don't think any of my friends would be willing to go to an arcade, I can barely get them to play local co-op anything.
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>>24574108
Suicune is a strange choice but it fight with water and its ribbons for close-range. Without those it's just about as bad as shits like Tauros, Stantler and most of the things I mentioned.
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>>24573585

>One arcade
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>>24574108

The only reason Suicune works is because it has those ribbon-tails to grab and do melee attacks with.

Unless they have something like that, most of the roster is going to be bipeds, because this is a fighting game, which bipeds are inherently more suited for.
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>>24574535
Well personally I think Samurott would be suited for a fighting game
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>>24573585
Bait article/counter shill thread?
https://games.yahoo.com/news/pokemon-killing-nintendo-203038043.html
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>>24574562
This.
We need a Yoshimitsu type character.
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>TWO (2) Pikachus
>no Raichu
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so is this devil gene mewtwo
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>>24574807
Who's Raichu again

a fan made Pika clone?
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>>24574787
>Yoshimitsu type character
what do you mean by that?

>>24574096
>traditional Pokemon RPG game but with this battling style
oh god no although i welcome a Pokemon RPG by Bamco
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>>24573697
There will be at least 20 playable characters judging by the current roster size, likely more since they've shown they can expand the box at will.
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>>24575330
Corrupted Mega Mewtwo X, known as Dark Mewtwo.

That thing lodged in their is probably a Mega Stone.
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>>24573697
>sticking with fan favorites like charizard and lucario is just the safe bet and shows that they're worried about the game succeeding
you can't be this hipster
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>>24573697
Considering how much work goes into making and balancing even 10 characters, wasting that effort on 25 when the game won't even sell is definitely not something they want to waste time on just because you want to see your hipster choice in the game.
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>>24575355
it's dedenne's evolution
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>>24574807

No one wants to play as Bubsy
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>>24575471
Sm4sh has over 50 characters and most of them are well-balanced. It's ironic because both Sm4sh and Pokken were developed by Namco.
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>>24573697
To be fair, we did get some strange choices like Weavile and Suicune, so not all the characters are fan-favorites. I'm surprised we haven't gotten Greninja yet, considering how much TPC has been dickriding it, lately.
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>>24573697
Pretty much all Fighting types can fit in the game very well. We need to be more creative and somehow think of how a Bug or even a Flying type could fit in there.
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>>24576817
We already have Charizard as a flying type though. xD
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>>24573585
Pokken Tournament is failing because John Cena isn't playable.
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>>24573585
>mynintendonews
>being a remotely noteworthy website
kekking so hard
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>>24573896
>let me make a list of pokemon who are more realistic fighters than Suicune and Gengar
pfft
PFFFFTT
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>>24577019
Who?
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>>24576605
And it's also the 4th in the series, with the majority of those characters having appeared before. Also, it's had patches resulting in the better balance, vanilla Diddy and Shiek were fucking nuts.

Pokken is a new IP, with new builds for the fighters, in a unique structure of fighter. This literally happens with almost every fighting game, ever.
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>>24577184
I don't blame you. I keep googling him and getting this
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>>24577210
Are you sure that's not Kellam?
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>>24576605
>Sm4sh has over 50 characters and most of them are well-balanced.
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>>24577227
They are. Almost nobody is good so that makes them all good (and the ones that are good, great).
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Because Tekken is fucking horrible.

They should just have made a Smash Bros Pokemon spinoff, where the entire roster is Pokemon and it has unique mechanics exclusive to Pokemon, like type weaknesses, 3x3 switches, moveset editing, etc, just with Smash Bros gameplay.
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>>24577728
Except the gameplay in Pokken is more like Naruto. Even worse.
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>>24577711
>Almost nobody is good so that makes them all good
you mean it makes them bad

>>24577728
>They should just have made a Smash Bros Pokemon spinoff
>not a traditional 2D fighting game
>and it has unique mechanics exclusive to Pokemon, like type weaknesses
fuck that shit
>3x3 switches
KOF? Mahvel?
>moveset editing, etc, just with Smash Bros gameplay.
but Sm4sh does that
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>>24577748
"Good" and "bad" are relative. What's bad in Melee is better in Smash 4 due to the lower skill ceiling.
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>>24573585
>single arcade does that
>burgers spread news world wide like everywhere is doing it
>repost it again every day to look like there's more people doing that when it's still the same news

This kind of misinfo post belongs to >>>/v/
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>>24573604
>>24573585

the worst is not your shill but that newfags actually fell for it and tried to find explanations to something that never happened
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>>24573585

The only time I saw worst clickbait shilling than this was when they tried to make a news that wiis would burn down your houses because some redneck ruined his and blamed the videogame without proof or logic.
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>>24577775
what's funny is that the exact /v/ thread before was debunked quite early one and everyone instead posted for roster wishes
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>>24573585
>arcades
that's why
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>failing
As shitty as that article is, and as stupid as OP is for posting it, I'm not some Pokken apologist and anyone else who has a brain in their skull can see this game is gonna shit the bed for two reasons;
>lackluster roster
>fucking 3D Naruto shit like holy fuck what are you doing niggers

They could easily have everyone shitting themselves with hype if they just dropped a couple more popular mons that aren't already being shilled. Sales would go through the roof if they would just hit us with Sceptile, Electivire, the Hitmons, Dragonite, etc. Guys that they know people like, but aren't the same old same old.

Just dump like five more popular Pokemon in this that we don't see coming a mile away and everyone will fucking love it.
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>>24578045
I just don't get how Namco could fuck up so hard. They also helped develop Sm4sh, and that game is great, minus the lack of Single-player modes.
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>>24578045
>Guys that they know people like, but aren't the same old same old.
That's the problem, though. Namco doesn't know which Pokémon are popular but aren't the same old fan favorites.
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>>24578184
>Namco doesn't know which Pokémon are popular
almost the entire roster is filled with popular Pokemon
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>>24578195
Did you read the last part (but aren't the same old fan favorites)? I'm talking about Pokes that aren't very popular but are still popular enough to warrant being included in this game, such as Sceptile.
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>>24577734

I've played several of the Naruto games, and I can tell you that Pokken isn't very similar to them either
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>>24578045
>As shitty as that article is, and as stupid as OP is for posting it
And you're another addition to the list of fucking retards who STILL insist the game will have only 10 characters on final release. Watch the gameplay videos instead of repeating retarded bullshit ad infinitum.
>>24577734
It's unique in that there are two phrases, a field phase which plays like naruto, and a close range phrase which plays like traditional 2D fighter. Overall I was pretty iffy when I first heard of it myself but gameplay videos have completely sold me over. I just hope it gets more Pokemon that arent the same marketing whores everyone is bored of. Suicune and Weavile were a good start.

http://youtu.be/iVmrZkA3YU8
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>>24573604
>I never come around here nor do I follow Pokemon news that much in general.
Then don't act like you know shit, retard.
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>>24577216
What's a Kellam? Never heard of him. now before you say goolge him, Google doesn't turn up anything either
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>>24578740
>Then don't act like you know shit, retard.
All I did was ask a question, dumbshit.
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>>24578045
>Implying they aren't going to add more characters (Although they are slow as fuck on it so far)
>They are not allowed to make 3D fighters because I said so
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>>24582162
Pokken will always be shitty because Hawlucha was robbed in broad daylight in favor of another shitty Pikachu.
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>>24578204

>Sceptile
>Popular

No one gives a shit about Sceptile, it's a nobody
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>>24582442
>No one gives a shit about Sceptile, it's a nobody
Oh. Is that why it was one of Ash Ketchum's main powerhouses in the anime? Is that why Sceptile will have a significant role in the upcoming XY&Z arc? Clearly people do give a shit about it, shitposter.
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Give arceus a mega evo so the literal god of pokemon can be the strongest again. I don't care about how overpowered it would make him, I just want the most powerful being in the pokemon world to be the most powerful being in the pokemon world.
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>>24582384
>The game is bad because m-muh bromon is not playable

kek
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>>24586223
He is right thought

It was a really stupid decision and waste of priceless slots, considering how few characters it had

just shows how much devs dont care about this game, if they really wanted those special snowflake pikachus they'd did it like mortal kombat 10 version of characters
i'd rather see surfing and flying desu
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>>24582384
Pikachu Libre's moveset is completely different to Hawlucha's.
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>>24578119
>lack of single player modes
>has the most
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>>24586467
>graphics make the game rather than mechanics and playstyles
Lucha-chu is an entirely new character and plays differently from from the one that was already in the game.
Deeming a game as all around shit just because a skin of your relatively unknown "bro" didn't make it in is just plain retarded.
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>>24582384
Hawlucha still has a chance to get in
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>>24586532
>wanting a Lucha-chu clone
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>>24576605
>Sm4sh developed by Namco
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http://youtu.be/wixmMXrbmEc
Dark Mewtwo's super. I'm getting some serious Golden Sun vibes from that one.
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>>24586534
Lucha-Chu mainly utilizes Electric attacks like Electroweb and Shock Wave, as well as some iconic Pikachu moves like Double Team, so I doubt Hawlucha would be merly a clone.

By the way, the recent balance patch really mixed things up. Gengar is now considered a top tier character, while Luchachu went from slow, weighty shitter to combo-boosting demon of doom.
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