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/smtg/ Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

OST need re-up apparently

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

Last thread: >>94952239
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Why couldn't you let it die? Why do you detest salvation?
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>>95023979
White hero when?
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>>95023839
>started a new thread
>tried to post it in last thread
>I had a timer for some reason
>tried to refresh page to fix the problem
>someone posted before I could
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Why has there never been a good chaos ending in the history of the series
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>>95024145
Because white knight faggots like you can't let the edge wash over you and enjoy it.
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>>95024145
>what is MT2
>what is Devil Survivor
>what is Nocturne
>what is SMT II
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>>95024145
>what is SMT II
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>>95024128
When I went to make this, there was nothing "shin" on the catalogue. Sorry mate.
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>>95024128
Good job moron.

>>95023807
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>>95024145
Because it has to deal with the reality that its "ideology" is something that only frat boys actually think is good, so its hard to represent it in any way but retarded. I'll be lenient and say that both desus had at least reasonable chaos ends though.
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>>95024330
I probably should've mentioned thew timer was bugged and wouldn't go past 11s
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>>95024753
What if I got a real GUMP instead?
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>>95024664
>only frat boys actually think is good
I love this meme, lawfriend.
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>>95024753
SMT is for weaboos and retards, if you enjoy this kind of game, get a real "evoker" and shoot yourself in the head, the world says thank you
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>>95024664
What wrong with being in a frat, fuccboi?
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>>95025287
Ayn Rand is law.
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>>95025287
Keep going, I love it when people take alignments as seriously as they do their own lives.
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>auto battle
>forget that an enemy has Marin Karin
>four of my demons die because I had autobattle on and still don't know how to cancel it
>30,000 macca down the drain reviving, summoning, and healing them

Thanks bipedal leopards with swords
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>>95025469
Why the fuck are you in this general if you don't take alignments seriously?
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>>95025695
Lol. They're so autistic they reported the post.
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>>95025695
To laugh at idiots who haven't achieved enlightenment yet like you.
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>>95024753
>>95025287
>deleted
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>lawfags shat on by the law itself
Delicious.
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>>95026082
Law is absolute. It doesn't care whether an individual is lawful or not, it ensures that law is maintained regardless. This is an analogue to Flynn and Merkabah sacrificing themselves at the end of IV's Law ending and a metaphor for my miscarriage
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>>95026241
4chan is more chaotic than lawful anyways. They only pretend to be lawful so they don't get in trouble with all the child porn on /b/.
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>>95026241
>This is an analogue to Flynn and Merkabah sacrificing themselves at the end of IV's Law ending and a metaphor for my miscarriage
Fucking lel
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Ok, I finished SMT2, should I go for If or KMT now?
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>>95026834
Go for If... if you can read chink I guess but it's mostly just reused sprites from SMT2 and is pretty lazy
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>>95026939
No translation patch? These games feel like a chore anyway, I wouldn't mind skipping them if I didn't feel the need to play them in order
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>>95027052
Nope, If... might get translated by 2020 but even that's being optimistic

Why are you forcing yourself to play a game if you feel like it's a chore though
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Why is the general dead? It was so active earlier.
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>>95027162
autism
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>>95027347
Because people aren't shitposting.
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>>95027660
That's dumb, if you're going to spend 30+ hours doing something then you might as well make it something you enjoy
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>>95027705
Then hurry up and crudely shop a rageface onto bunny or someone.
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Any tips on grinding up to be able to fuse Beelzebub in Nocturne for True Demon Ending?
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>>95027836
nEW MEME
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>>95025495
You have only yourself to blame, faggot.
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>>95028707
I know, I didn't blame anyone else
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Playing SJ and chaos would't sound so bad if the demons actually wanted to co-exist and not just eat humans. Law is plain and simple brain washing holy shit, is DeSu1 the only game that had a good law ending? Only the really fucked up humans that have no remorse get screwed.

Also SJ2 when? I really enjoyed the difficulty of this game and loved how all the bosses tend to be pretty hard.
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>>95024270
But MT2 doesn't have law vs. chaos.
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>>95028981
Chaos is about the weak dying and the strong living so co-existing wouldn't work and law is always about brainwashing
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>>95028707
Blame yourself or god.
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>>95029214
On that note, why does the game try to make me feel about he demons jack tortured? This whole time demons have been trying to eat me and I should feel bad for demons? Fuck that noise. Neutral here I come.
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>>95029617
>Sector G
>Grendel gets butthurt if you chose to fight him
>calls you a curse species and blah blah blah

He couldt handle his own world of STR
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>>95029617
One of the demons afterwards even admits he saw humans as prey beforehand.
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So which cast is better, P2 or DDS?
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What level should I be to fight Ose in SMT 3?
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>>95030129
Any level you can have tarukaja in your party, and focus on your demifiend.
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>>95030070
P1
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>>95030070
P2.
But only because Yukino is muh waifu
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>>95030070
P3
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>>95030287
>Yukino

SQQ or gtfo
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Question about DDS1:
Does using hunt skills generate more Atma or does it just redistribute it?
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>>95030432
I prefer her P2 look, I respect your opinion though.
No I don't, your opinion is shit.
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>>95030701
Your daily reminder that announcing you like nemissa more than hitomi makes it obvious you're a virgin.
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>>95031624
I like both, faggot.
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Which Lucifer is your favorite Lucifer?
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>>95032185
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>>95032185
Teddie.
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>>95030206
I just finished the fight and holy shit that was easy.
When does the game get hard even with buffs/debuffs?
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>>95032185
SJ or Raidou 2
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>>95032649
You're playing on normal? Never
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So i just started playing nocturne and this little shit got crits and two shot me
What the fuck?
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>>95030573
Both. It gives atma only to the character that devoured the enemy, and gives exponentially more.
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>>95033032
Yeah. I decided to because it's my first time playing it and I heard it was mercilessly hard and my only experience with SMT before this was IV and DeSu OC.
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>>95033295
Sounds good, thank you!
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>>95033315
There's no SMT game that's mercilessly hard.
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>>95030701
yanki > afro
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>>95033548
Damn, even in NG+ or some sort of variant?
Also what SMT should I play after Nocturne?
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>>95033894
SMT I
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>>95033789
I'd usually agree but I don't know why but P2 Yukino I like more.
Sorry man.
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>>95034053
Her art is better in 2, so I understand.
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>invisible rooms with moving tiles
THANKS SJ
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>start up SMT3
>there's no mag
>you're forced to play as a gay Chaos Hero tier demon fusion
>you can't buy equipment
>the music has a 50 year old drunk singing in a tin can
>no stephen hawkings

Is it just a meme to pretend to like this game or something, it sucks so far
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Where's the best place to grind EXP in DDS1? I've been grinding the Titania Hallway but I'm wondering if the highest area of the Karma Tower bight be better for that. I was thinking I could also end up getting some of the harder to get noises at the same time.
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>>95034010
I'll consider it.
I'm leaning SMT1/2 or SJ.
>>95034236
I like it so far.
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>>95034236
I though lawfags were sleeping.
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I want to fuck Mirai
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>>95034236
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>>95034456
That's neutral
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>>95034456
No, Janitor-san got upset with them for shitposting again.
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>>95034485
When he jumped off the Mantra HQ, I got so excited. I love how absurd that was.
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>>95034236
Don't forget that the plot has nothing to do with the rest of the series, so people have to poorly try to explain how they go together.
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>>95034638
Why're you so incapable of enjoying things?
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>>95034537
Neutral sleeps in the middle of the day?
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>>95034586
Absurd? Something like that's pretty regular for Dante. I mean, have you seen the tower climb scene in DMC3?
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>>95034946
As expected of NEETral!
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For honeymoon bonding!
For breakfast in bed!
For goodnight kisses!
For eternal happiness!
for an empty reality...
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>>95035126
What does Danganronpa, Lightning, and Demifiend have to do with each other?
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>>95035268
They're all in shit games
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>Chaosfags
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>>95035053
I haven't, I've only played DMC 1
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>>95032185
All of them save SMTIV's Lucifer 1st Form.
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>>95035817
You should get on to that eventually anon, DMC3 is an excellent game.
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>>95035968
I've got a huge backlog that I'm finally getting through. How's the HD collection? If it's good I'll get it.
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The gal who voiced Hitomi is voicing Airi
Makoto is Megan Hollingshead
Joe is Yuri Lowenthal.

>>95029151
Anon clearly meant Majin Tensei II, and they forgot King Abaddon.
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Man and I thought Sector E was annoying Sector G can go fuck it self. All this teleporting is getting on my nerves.
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>>95036080
The HD collection is fantastic, since you get DMC 1, 2 and 3SE, all of which are remastered and look a lot better. It's likely to be cheap at this point in time, too.
Just...don't have your expectations too high for DMC2. It's pretty damn average but has some neato concepts like Desperate Devil Trigger and Dante at his most powerful level.
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/smtg/ - Devil May Run Up On a Nigga General
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>>95036643
>Yuri Lowenthal
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>>95036643
I fucking new Yuri would be in there somewhere, I think he's in pretty much every Megaten game that has voice acting
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>>95036818
I'm unfamiliar with the guy.
Who?
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>>95036643
>Yuri Lowenthal
Yeah but why
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SMT V FEATURING BAYONETTA FROM THE BAYONETTA SERIES
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>>95036818
It's Atlus, what did you expect?
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>>95024270
>what is SMT II

The game where lucifer admits he did fuck nothing for a century just because it would maybe make fighting yhvh easier, and then kills everyone in millennium for ?? reason.
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>>95034190

The later sectors in SJ are pretty bullshit, yeah.
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>>95036818
>>95036873
>>95036914
The same reason the video that shows Joe and Airi talking is called "5 Ways Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Reminds us of Persona."
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>>95037127
Devil Survivor is the Fire Emblem of Persona
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>>95036974
For mistreating the people locked up below ground clearly.

Plus YHVH wanted him to unleash the Godly Kuzuryu and destroy the world, so he had a dragon to keep in check until he did that.
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>>95037127
I'm going to hurt somebody.
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>>95037127
The whole thing was a P1 tribute, right?
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>>95037249
He destroyed most of the surface, including the people who were themselves mistreated to get back at some people who were already dead.
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>>95036974
Lucifer was clearly trying to hug them. Unfortunately hugs from him and Kuzuryu result in giant ass explosions and death.

Just like in DeSu2's anime!
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>>95036914
Atlus USA loves him and he must work for pretty cheap, why else do you think he's in just about every Megaten game with voice acting?
You know he's going to be someone in P5.
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>>95037127
>"5 Ways Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Reminds us of Persona
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>>95037415
Also, like what the plot of blue exorcist claimed to be half the time. But the other half it didn't. And it didn't notice it just was incoherent.
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>>95037127
Where is it?
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>>95037392
Of Millenium. The rest of the world should still be fine. He didn't outright destroy everything like he was supposed to, unlike when Satan cleanses the earth on Law. Plus just cause the guys who are the root of the corruption are gone doesn't make their crimes or the results of their corruption just magically vanish.

That's why Satan still had to purge the earth in the end.
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>>95037127
>it's fucking real
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/18/5-ways-shin-megami-tensei-devil-survivor-2-record-breaker-reminds-us-of-persona
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>>95037539
Fucking google it. Should be on IGN.

They mostly go over the mechanics, with Joe and Airi's fate done near the end of the video to show the fate system.
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>>95037631
>During my 30 minute sit-down session with Atlus last week, I learned that just because it doesn't have the word "Persona" in it doesn't make Devil Survivor 2 inaccessible. In fact, it shares a few nifty qualities with its fellow SMT spin-off that should make Persona fans feel right at home.
THAT'S RIGHT
DESU2 CONFIRMED FOR SHITSONA
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http://www.gamezone.com/originals/9-games-that-are-the-dark-souls-of-their-genre
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>>95037581
What rest of the world? The game seems to imply that this is more or less the last human city. And that people are only alive in it because they have machines that generate a breathable atmosphere. Which means lucifer was, like in IV indescriminately killing people because he didn't like their leaders... after their leaders were already dead, and so there was nothing to be gained. At least satan gave some kind of excuse. Lucifer just did it.
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>>95037631
I'm honestly shocked that you didn't trust me. Have the angels blinded you to the point you can't even see the truth?
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>>95037736
/smtg/ agrees with every point on here in 2015 though
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>>95037631
Japs would be annoyed about this. They were annoyed about "Persona" coming before "Shin Megami Tensei" on a poster once.
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>>95037723
Why do people have this stupid idea that SMT games are hard as fuck, did they fall for the Matador meme that bad?
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>>95037829
No, that's just the Strange Circlejerk.
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>>95037736
>Shin Megami Tensei IV - The Dark Souls of SMT games
Is this satire?
Please tell me it's satire because fuck man
Please
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>>95037581
Go away SJW.
"Muh Indian reservations! Manifest destiny!"
"Muh Blacks in ghettos! Slavery!"
Take your white guilt and drown in it. Literally.
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>>95037859
They're hard if you're new to the series.
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The feminists are invading again.
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>>95037889
it's the Darksouls of Persona, get it right

and yes, they're all real comments
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>>95037942
Anything is hard if you're new to a series, it only takes a couple of hours to learn the game if you aren't retarded though
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>>95037829
Every single opinion on that image is bad and that's why I made the image.
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Who sacrifice the son of heaven here?
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>>95038017

Most people find them harder than other JRPGs. Maybe you don't, in which case good for you, but most do.
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>>95038172
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>95037945
Wherever I go, I must also rape.
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>>95037430
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>>95038253
Heat, we know its you.
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>>95038185
Which is why I said they take a couple of hours just like how it would take a couple of hours to get how the combat works like most JRPGs that aren't Final Fantasy
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Why people surprised about this? SMT is Persona's little bitch in the view of the mainstream
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>>95038172
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>>95038375
>ZOMG!

So fucking tired of atlus putting memes in their games.
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>>95038382
I'm so glad you posted this image which was certainly funny the last 50 times you posted it and really appreciate the 5 seconds in MSPaint you spent to make it.
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>>95037673
The youtube cahnnel or the site? I can only use youtube and 4chan necause my internet isn't working, I don't know why
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>>95038375
I won't allow this to happen.
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>>95038495
Are you the same guy who always throws a fit over that image? I think you need to calm down.
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>>95038495
Thanks. Have another.
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>>95038592
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>>95037892
It's true though. As long as they lived on the surface while the mutants remained underground, they would be considered second class citizens and those raise in Millenium would still see them as such. Not even on Law are they spared.

Thus to protect the people who live in the shadow of the world due to persecution and mistreatment, Lucifer unleashed Kuzuryu.

I wish I was making some of this up, because the whole inferior class deal is brought up in that translated SMTII interview. They even mention the JEWs and the Nazis. Even if Valhalla wasn't swallowed by Abaddon, it would have been tossed into the Underworld eventually.
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>>95038661
No. There really is one autist who always bitchfits about it.
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>>95038637
You gonna get raped, faggot.
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>>95038475
Memes to us, cool shit to Japanese teens.
Like those people who get Kanji tattoos and shirts and shit only knowing whatever meaning some random person told them it was. So it's not just a matter of Atlus USA trying to be funny.
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>>95038563
It's obvious why.

NIflheim has descended and will freeze part of the world, while Muspellheim will descend and burn the others. The eternal battle between Angels and Demons/Fire and Ice/Light and Dark shall eternally continue.

It's really cold. That's basically it.
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>>95038768
How do I know you're not just responding to yourself every time?
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>>95038778
Send pics first, and I'll decide whether to fight back or not. Do you have a big dick? You're not fat are you? I guess if you are I could easily run away anyways, so I'll see when you get here.
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>>95038718
So Atlus is full of SJWs? What do you call white guilt for non-white people?
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>>95038427

You grossly overestimate peoples abilities.
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>>95038920
You disgrace yourself.
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>>95038982
>y cant metroid crawl

My sides
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>>95038965
A betrayer of the master race.
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>>95038982
Given how this discussion started, I can't help but feel this is appropriate.
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>Check out the DeSu RB trailer on IGN
>Superman made a comment
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>>95038718
The person you were responding to was retarded, but so what? He could have helped them get aboveground without using the dragon to destroy most of the surface. For all he knows by this point there is no above-ground left to live on. Valhalla was shit even before everything. In IV it was even worse. There was no leaders left already, but he let demons just buttfuck most of the civilians for no reason.
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>>95039195
>pretending that you only ironically had pg open by opening another window.
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>>95039373
No, I browse it too. A lot of us do, get over it.
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>>95039195
2/10 try harder.
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>>95039373
>implying I don't like Persona and don't browse /pg/
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>>95039373
>he doesn't go on /pg/
They're better than /smtg/ these days m80
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>>95039373
A lot of people usually have both open at the same time
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>>95039445
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>>95039373
He doesn't.
>>95022880
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>>95039548
If you don't browse /pg/ you're in the minority here. You do realize this, right?
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>>95039231
IV's characterization is not II. Just like robot owl bug Lilith is not hopelessly in love with Adam while Lucifers manipulates her pure maiden feelings cause he's a dick in I. Instead she's a complete 100% bitch, and is probably the Babylonian goddess considering it's the first time it's ever been mentioned in her compendium.

Lucifer's smart, so he no doubt knows the mutants can survive on the surface without Millenium. Heck even Hiroko and Aleph are shown fine on the surface and are hailed as a savior to those down below.

Unlike in IV, where the people down below want to die because DESPAIR and many demons were full on assholes, especially to each other.
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>>95039665
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to die because you are in despair. In fact if everyone was in despair, the world would be a better place.
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>>95039652
If we all browse it then why not merge it back together? Everyone acts like its a "meme" to talk about it, but why not?
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>>95039906
because the discussion is completely different
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>>95039942
Well, if the autists didn't drive away most of our members, maybe we wouldn't always have a dead general. Get some more people playing and get them in here so that we can discuss why lilim > angel and pixie.
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>>95039906
People would just cry and bitch because they're pretty different places now and can't easily merge together

Autistic alignment posters would cry that their shitposting is drowned out by Chie vs Yukiko waifu shitposting
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>>95039860
Shut up Shinado. That's how you spawn Destroyer Insect skull faced angels from the abyss.
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How do you find the whitefags at a party?

Don't worry, they'll let you know.
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>>95040112
Is that what it was like before the split?
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>>95040197
They were never the same general.
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>>95039652
>If you don't browse /pg/ you're in the minority here
Why? There's no reason to browse /pg/ unless you're a waifufag.
I've seen far better discussions here about some persona games than in /pg/.
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This thread made me fucking toss my desk over. If you go on /pg/, you should just fucking kill yourself
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Any MegaTen images that'd make good phone wallpapers?
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>>95040574
Possibly
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>>95040672
>raidou
trash
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Is that nasty cursed corridor in the second kalpa essential to completing it, or should I try that again later?
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>>95040741
But he's the chosen one, able to defy even YHVH's control of the timeline and future.

Not Flynn or any other mainline SMT protagonist can do that.
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>>95040827
>Not Flynn or any other mainline SMT protagonist can do that.

Demi-fiend and Aleph literally kill YHVH, bro.
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>>95040741
We've gotten this bad?
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>>95040574
This is mine.
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>>95040941
Aleph is still destined to one day be eternally tormented for all eternity as YHVH will return.

Only in TDE, and he had to end the universe to do it. Raidou is so super special he can do it without destroying reality.

And he helps Lucifer with his BDSM fetish by beating the shit out of him until he turns back into an angel.
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My comp's a toaster and can't emulate ps2. I'm gonna order two games out of DDS, Raidou, and nocturne.

My favorite thing in SMT is when careful thought and planning leads to the endowment of major-league ass-kicking abilities.

I don't care how hard it is as long as it forces me to do the above.

I won't play DDS2 without DDS1, etc.

Which games do I get?
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Why can't we just die? Why do we try so hard to live?
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In sector D, are the Formless fights required or can I just go on to the next floor? They're not hard, it's just time consuming.
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>>95041376
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>>95041371
>loin cloths on women
my dick
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>>95041371
Raidou is a badly done action game and DDS doesn't have demon parties, so Nocturne
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>>95040827
>not Flynn

Pretty sure Flynn was the true savior who removed humanity from the eternal game between YHVH and Lucifer.
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>>95041371
Raidou 2, Nocturne.

Delete your pick, the goth whore is annoying me.
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>>95041257
why can't we just be friends
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>>95041376

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELCxExFQLI4#t=225

EEEEEEEEEH? UUEEEEEEEH?

maybe atlus-kun will throw us some expired candy soon
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>>95041485
Best joke I heard all week.

He's so tightly bound by the invisible strings of the Lord that even when he's going chaos, he is inevitably helping YHVH.
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>>95041257
we should just merge already and stop this nonsense
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>>95041556

Highschool girls are /smtg/

It all makes sense now.
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>>95041627
Well of course he's helping YHVH when he's going Chaos. Going Chaos means the cycles will continue.
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>>95041627
hold your autism for fucksa sake
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>>95040093
SMT is a series that actually requires some higher thinking both strategically and mentally as well as a good understanding of philosophy

A fucking Persona waifufag shitter wouldn't be able to grasp these concepts
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>>95041741
And the cycle continues whether you go Law, Neutral, or Chaos.

The White are Right.
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>>95041846
Really hoping this is bait, but by how bad the general's been lately, I don't think it is
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>>95041846
Anon... Judging by the state of this general, no one here does either. A coherent discussion about themes happens maybe once a month if you're lucky.
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>>95041846
What philosophy do you have to understand, it's not like Atlus knows any outside of psych 101 Jung stuff
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Fuck sector G, fuck it in the ass.
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>>95042125
I know that most of this general is easily baited about everything, but this is too obvious.
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>>95042178
Agreed.
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>>95041846
The Japanese public must all have masters in Philosophy cause it's mainstream over there.
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>>95042254
It's not even bait the philosophy is shallow as fuck
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>>95042279
At this point, so does anyone who's watched true detective too, though. Or the equivalent of one at any rate.
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>>95042484
Why would I watch that instead of just reading Ligotti?
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HOLY SHIT GUYS
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCMQqQIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crossmap.com%2Fnews%2Fpersona-5-release-date-and-spoilers-atlus-relased-first-gameplay-for-persona-5-video-16605&ei=ytLmVPDSBMOVNq_TgJgL&usg=AFQjCNH_8J7WuSSR7isikTJcqF8ubH337Q&sig2=8bL1Qy4R3ohtxKhEZ5PBfQ&bvm=bv.86475890,d.eXY
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>>95040574
https://imgur.com/a/FRqsA
I tried
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>>95040574
I use the old SMT logo.
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>>95041556
>>95041376
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>>95042879
Why you just look like you're in a cult to anyone else
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>>95040574
Minimalist Jack Frost can't go wrong.
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http://www.megatenonline.com/special/sp_cathedral.html

>They will never use these models in a different Persona/SMT game. Just like Frost Ace.
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Why can't I make a Hinokagutsuchi in SMT1? I have the Murakamo and a Salamander but the sword fusion option went away.
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>>95043146
What's the point, everything goes down easy as it is in SMT1
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>>95042879
>literal pentagram
You don't have many friends, do you?
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>>95043126
Are they still doing events for it in Japan?
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>>95043112
Firstly because I like the logo?
Secondly it's a nice clean design that doesn't lose anything to being a background or clutter the screen visually
Thirdly, who are all these people starting at my screen that don't actually know me and now think I'm in a cult that you are describing?

>>95043240
I have quite a few friends. Why? Are you lonely?
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>>95043239
I know but I want it because
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>>95043282
Did you not just see they are opening the Cathedral as a dungeon this year?

Or that Seraph and Gemory will be bosses in it?

Or our savior Satan?
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>>95043303
Anon. We know you're a virgin. No one who has a good social life would have that as a background. This isn't bait ether, its a serious pointing out of this.
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>>95024753
>>95025287
What was wrong with those posts? Especially the second one?
Are we deleting everything that triggers us or we just don't like now?
If that's the case I don't like these posts >>95033097, >>95034236, please delete them.
Thanks.

>>95042312
At least we all have agreed now that the games are philosophical.
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>>95043390
They're antagonistic shitposts. Are you complaining that you can shit up the thread and get away with it?
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>>95043390
There's some serious autism here that gets mad that people play the games for any reason but liking to see numbers on a screen slowly become bigger numbers. They rush to report everything they don't like, which is why there's a constant dead general.
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>>95043390
The first one is just a dumb durr weeboo kill urself shitposting it's obvious why it got deleted
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>DeSu 2 The Anime got away with Satan Nipples
>So did the game
>DDS, Persoona 3 onwards, and Imagine lack them

Why?
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>>95043303
let me spoonfeed you why you're an idiot
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>>95043346
What? Seriously? Why did Atlus USA shut it down then? Were they on different servers than the japanese?
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>>95043564
Nobody played it here.
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>>95043387
Yes, me living with my girlfriend and having friends is totally not happening because I like SMT.

You needing to project this hard is somehow changing the reality of my life.

Yes, instead of being happy and liking things I should cry about how a stranger might see this on my phone screen in the background and become an introvert. Thank you for showing me the light.

>>95043563
Hi, new. Try learning more about the English language and the subject of this general before posting more.
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>>95043625
Holy shit you're getting way too defensive over nothing.
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>>95043625
>hex-point star and sarif crosses
>better than pentagrams
Holy shit anon, you really got me good, 9/10.
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>>95043437
>antagonistic shitposts
As opposed to protagonistic shitposts?

>>95043484
Yeah, it's really surprising that this is one of the generals where a lot of people report stuff but it still manages to be shit.
I could accept it if there was some consistency at least.

>>95043492
The ones I quoted where on the same level but are still here.
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>>95043625
Anon. You realize how much of a wanker you are? You're defending your right to have a weeb cult background on your phone and making up stories about not being a virgin.
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>>95043712
The ones you quotes were at least actual discussion about the gameplay
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>>95043712
>As opposed to protagonistic shitposts?

Yeah, that's right. Saying something like "i want to fuck walter" is I guess a shitpost but it's not really anything but low quality. Direct "if you like this game kill yourself :^)" posts are attacking people.
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>>95043126
Frost Ace even was great, him fighting for justice against the Fiends and being defeated every time.

>>95043564
Because the game was full of bugs and they couldn't keep getting money from the players anymore.
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>>95043625
>Yes, me living with my girlfriend and having friends is totally not happening because I like SMT.

Timestamp and signed pic or it didn't happen.
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>>95043790
Except that one Frost Ace that shows up at the end and avenges his fallen comrade.

There was Mara's harem kingdom plan by some Incubus and other horny demons, and didn't they do a Anubis one last month?
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>>95043786
>Yeah, that's right. Saying something like "i want to fuck walter" is I guess a shitpost but it's not really anything but low quality. Direct "if you like this game kill yourself :^)" posts are attacking people.

Are you joking? Those are joke attacks. We have real people constantly trying to actually attack people here all the time.
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>>95043693
>responding is now being defensive, u so mad bro
Thanks anon.

>>95043701
Are you having some sort of fit?

>>95043742
>You're defending your right to have a weeb cult background on your phone
Actually, I'm asking what the problem is, there is quite a difference.

>and making up stories about not being a virgin.
Your projection is the issue here. I can't see how you need to believe I'm a virgin unless you are projecting, because if you're not, you're a pretty strange person obsessed with other's sex lives.

>>95043829
Timestamp what? My sleeping girlfriend? Yeah, I'll get right to that.
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>>95043765
>Is it just a meme to pretend to like this game or something, it sucks so far
>discussion
Okay. The first post I quoted was discussion about the target audience of the persona games.

>>95043786
>Direct "if you like this game kill yourself :^)" posts are attacking people.
Oh my god! You're right that would be awful!
It's not like this is 4chan or anything where being called a faggot is the norm.
Remember the quote about cyberbullying.
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>>95043902
>We have real people constantly trying to actually attack people here all the time.

Can you show me some of those posts then?
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>>95043902
Ahahaha holy shit, man.
You really can't handle having your shitpost get deleted, can you? Like, if anyone else shitposts and it's reported, that's cool. But when it's one of yours, it's a fucking abuse of power oh my god moot please come back
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>>95043940
That post also talked about specific gameplay stuff the guy didn't like too
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>>95043625
>Hi, new. Try learning more about the English language and the subject of this general before posting more.

Uh... anon. You realize that you're new too, right?
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>>95043868
I thought it was the same Frost Ace. Also this Tengu event too.

>didn't they do a Anubis one last month?
Yup, they did it, now they're going to Satan soon.
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>>95043908
You're getting unbelievably worked up over some people commenting on how a pentragram as your phone background might give some people the wrong impression if they saw it
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>>95043908
>Timestamp what? My sleeping girlfriend? Yeah, I'll get right to that.

Yes. I want your phone, and a paper with /smtg/ written on it in the pic. Using "she's sleeping" isn't an excuse to not be able to take a picture. Yet you are clearly using it as a reason you don't have to.
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>>95043986
That post I quoted also talked about specific stuff of the fanbase the guy didn't like too.
The more important one is still the second, why did that one get deleted?
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Controversial opinions time.
I think Persona 2's demon negotiations were the best of the bunch. But I feel Altus has stagnated with them since then and has not done much of anything with a particularly interesting and unique aspect of their games. I really hope moving forward they'll work on improving them. Also, the general philosophy, while a fun ride, is bullshit on an intellectual level. I can't help but feel that these people(of Altus) don't truly believe that stuff or something is very wrong with their mental development. What's written is likely for a lack of hassle and for fun. At least I hope.
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>>95044125
>I think Persona 2's

Stopped reading.
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>>95044050

Not that guy, but they seemed more like insults than simple comments.
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>>95044125
I thought you said controversial
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>>95043303
>I have quite a few friends.
What are you doing here then? Wouldn't you be able to talk with them if you felt the need?

>>95044125
Stop abusing surprise boxes.
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>>95043908
>Are you having some sort of fit?
Well I'm not gonna make another comparison image but basically the old logo's imagery is about 100 times more offensive to a layman's eyes than the new logo's encircled pentagram. The sarif crosses at the top and bottom are a symbol used for white supremacist groups and, perhaps most notably, the Crusades. This, coupled with the six-point star (jewish imagery) and its encircled head, you get something that looks much worse than Wicca to the average person checking out your phone over your shoulder.
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>>95044175
Maybe so, but if you can't handle a bit of smacktalk you probably don't belong here. It's like, the most unimportant thing to get bent out of shape over.
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>>95044125
> Also, the general philosophy, while a fun ride, is bullshit on an intellectual level. I can't help but feel that these people(of Altus) don't truly believe that stuff or something is very wrong with their mental development.

What stuff are you talking about? I think we know that atlus doesn't think that SMT is a true story.
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>>95044125
>Also, the general philosophy, while a fun ride, is bullshit on an intellectual level.
That's interesting. Please elaborate with actual arguments.
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>>95043987
Being in these threads since before /vg/ and on 4chan since 2006 is new now?

Yeah, your /b/ tier argument sure is a winner, you showed me. No u indeed.

>>95044050
You're getting unbelievably worked up over someone having a phone background and asking how it's a problem.

>>95044071
I'm starting to see why you clearly can't handle human relationships. Going in my room to wake her up to take a picture to satisfy shitposters on 4chan is such a good choice. Your need for me to not be in reality doesn't change reality, I don't need to prove anything. What are you going to do? Shitpost some more? Oh no.

>>95044195
>What are you doing here then? Wouldn't you be able to talk with them if you felt the need?
Have you ever considered not everyone plays SMT?

And you really expect me to believe the ~60 people we have here every thread all have no friends and I'm the exception?
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>>95044273
bro why aren't you snuggling with your girlfriend in bed

are you some kind of faggot
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>>95044273
>have you ever considered not everyone plays SMT?
oh the ironing
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>>95044273
>Have you ever considered not everyone plays SMT?
Friends should have the same interests or not?

>>95044273
>And you really expect me to believe the ~60 people we have here every thread all have no friends and I'm the exception?
Yes.
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>>95044315
He has to spend his time late at night arguing over his phone background on 4chan, that's more important
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>>95044241
>average person checking out your phone over your shoulder.

Who cares? Really, who gives a fuck? Do you think they're going to snatch the phone from his hand and smash it? Are they going to accuse him of being racist or a witch or something and try have him stoned?

Seriously, please explain why the random people in the street who see his phone background and get offended by it is a problem for him.
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>>95044423
I like to look at loli anal hentai but it's not my phone background. Same principle.
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>>95044423
I once saw an old dude get into an argument with a girl because she was wearing a star of David necklace and he thought she was a Satanist.
>>95044471
Do you look at it on your phone, though?
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>>95044273
>I'm starting to see why you clearly can't handle human relationships. Going in my room to wake her up to take a picture to satisfy shitposters on 4chan is such a good choice. Your need for me to not be in reality doesn't change reality, I don't need to prove anything. What are you going to do? Shitpost some more? Oh no.

I didn't say you had to wake her up. If she's really your girlfriend, presumably she doesn't think you have ill intent if you take a simple picture. And with anger management problems like yours, you shouldn't be asking whether anyone else has trouble with human relationships.
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>>95044487
Nah, not that I can think of. Might've happened once, but not in public and probably because the internet was down or something.
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>>95044315
She's feeling pretty sick, actually. Was giving her space and time to fall asleep.

>>95044327
Yes, it is ironic that not everyone plays SMT. That's why I shove my phone into the face of every stranger I see.

>>95044345
>Friends should have the same interests or not?
No, actually. SMT isn't my only interest though, so it's not like I don't share interests with my friends.

>Yes
Then I don't know what to tell you if you're claiming to honestly believe that.

>>95044494
>I didn't say you had to wake her up.
Yeah, turning the light on in her face so the picture isn't blackness seems like a good way to let her be.

>with anger management problems like yours
Again with your projection.
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>>95044423
Pretty sure he also walks around with a Raidou costume. I mean, really, who gives a fuck?
Seriously, please explain why the random people in the street who see his outfit and get offended by it is a problem for him.

>>95044471
Careful, he's on 4chan since 06.
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>>95044273
Anon... what alignment are you?
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>>95044562
I'm not. You actually take alignments seriously?
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>>95044554
Please stop the blogging.
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>>95044471
>Same principle.
>>95044556
> he also walks around with a Raidou costume.

False equivalency. Learn to logic, retards.
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>>95044556
What don't you understand. He is LE OLDFAG. He knows the MEMES and doesn't have to take NO SHIT because he gets PUSSY.
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inb4 some faggot posts a timestamped picture of a dakimakura

please, someone do it. it would end all of this. i know one of you has one.
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>>95044672
Bead man probably has one of Hikawa
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You are all gay
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>>95044672
Sorry bro my daki is sick so I'm giving her some space and I don't want to wake her
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>>95044647
Replying to the people speaking to me is blogging now too?

Fascinating.
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>>95044651
The loli one is not false equivalency.
A lot of people will think he's a satanist or something. Pretty sure that's comparable.
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Man it's good to back to first person dungeon crawler. Since i beat SH I've been playing nocturne, IV, DeSu OC for the past few months and I just started SJ this feels good, being able to walk all the map and left nothing unmarked.
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>>95044737
Pretty sure you could've ended this a long time ago if you just stopped replying. E-honor isn't that big of a deal, bro.
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>>95044737
Yes, it doesn't matter in what context.
If I reply to people asking questions with shitposts it doesn't make them magically alright. You should know that as an oldfag.
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I like it when /smtg/ comes together to collectively blow up a retard. It makes me feel better after the constant feuding and fussing that normally goes on.
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>>95044737
>claims to be an oldfag
>subscribes to the 2011 ideal that defending your posts is EVER something worth doing
>>>/reddit/
I don't care if you've been here since the 1900s, you don't belong here anymore.
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>>95044707
I want a Chiaki dakimakura.
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>>95044752

Far, far more people will be upset at the sight of loli porn than strange religious symbols, to say nothing of the fact that public showing of porn is illegal whereas a pentagram isn't.

So yes, it is false.
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>>95044794
What "E-honor"? This is anonymous board.

>>95044832
>If I reply to people asking questions with shitposts
Except I didn't shitpost, so you're not making a point here.

>>95044856
I don't care if you feel that way, I'm here to stay. Feel free to take your own suggestion, however.
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>>95044917
A Chiakimakura, if you will
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>>95044917
I want a Cu Chulainn dakimakura.
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>>95044939
>What "E-honor"? This is anonymous board.
And yet you felt the need to defend yourself on, as you said, an anonymous board. Nobody here will ever know if you do or don't have a girlfriend, so why does it matter if they say you don't?
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>>95044939
Blogging is shitposting. Your personal life shouldn't matter at all, if people are asking questions about it, you should ignore it because it's totally off topic.
Your first shitty post was the one asking about wallpapers for a phone background, with your great 4chan experience you should've known what was bound to happen.
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>>95044942
I like you.
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>>95045010
Hey guyzzz. This is anon's girlfriend. Here to prove I really exist.
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>>95045142
Cool. Now post a picture of yourself making this whole conversation a string of not-shitposts.
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>>95045142
>/smt9/
What does it mean?!
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>>95045140
Thanks, cutie.
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>>95045142
>>95045195
Future-san, what can you tell us about the upcoming quadrology of mainline titles!?
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Making a Daisoujou in Nocturne. Rakukaja and Focus or Rakukaja and Agilao?
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>>95045226
I'm not cute.
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>>95045268
SMT9 already came out for the xbox, bro. Like 10 years ago.

>>95045289
Agilao probably
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>>95045289
>focus
But why? Daisoujou shouldn't ever be attacking physically. This should be a no-brainer. Go with Agilao and replace it with something better down the line.
The only attacks Daisoujou should be using are Preach, Meditation, Mahamaon and Mamudoon.
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>>95045195
NINE remake confirmed
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>>95045289

Dai doesn't have any phys skills, right? Seems like a waste.
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>>95045010
>so why does it matter if they say you don't
It doesn't, as I've already stated.

I'm amused by the idea that it's "literally impossible" for me to have any human contact while liking SMT and you will see that most of my posts still have me asking about the problem with having something as a phone background.

I still have not gotten any real answer about how it is that everyone is magically seeing my phone screen and then attacking me for it.

If anyone's blogging it's these people.

>>95045078
>Your personal life shouldn't matter at all
Tell >>95043240 >>95043387 >>95043693 >>95043742 >>95043829 >>95043987 >>95044050 >>95044071 >>95044195 >>95044315 >>95044327 >>95044345 >>95044494 >>95044856 and any I may have missed since they weren't replying to me.

>Your first shitty post was the one asking about wallpapers for a phone background
You mean >>95043303? Which I still have not gotten an answer to, despite repeatedly asking.

But no, I'm the shitposter because I actually used logic and facts.
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>>95045268
Pretty sure if he meant mainline, he would've wrote SMTIX.
He's Japanese and has played NINE. Now he has come to enlighen us about its greatness.
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>>95045289
>Uh oh! A tough game decision. What should I do?

>Make an educated guess based on experience
>Make two saves and experiment because you are a pussy
>Ask /smtg/
Enjoy your misinformation.
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Ooh, I'm gettin lewd now. He shouldn't have told you boys about me.
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>>95045434
>being this mad
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>>95045434
>3DPD
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>>95045434
>not jerking it with your left hand

You're doing it all wrong
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>>95045434
anon's girlfriend confirmed slut
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>>95045434
Put the scrotum away and no one gets hurt.
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>>95045472
i wonder who's behind this post
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>>95045365
You're either not here since 2006 or retarded as fuck.
I don't have to tell them, please actually read my posts:
>if people are asking questions about it, you should ignore them because it's totally off topic
No I meant >>95040574, if you had a brain you could've found some SMT wallpapers during those years of being on this imageboard or would know ways of finding ones yourself/not needing to be spoonfed or at the very least wouldn't have felt the need to specify that you're going to use it as a phone background because that doesn't matter at all for the images you're getting.

People asking about personal life to afterwards fuck with you are pretty common on here, another thing you should already know and know how to ignore after all those years.
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>>95045690
>You're either not here since 2006 or retarded as fuck.
I am, and I'm not. So, eh.

>No I am calling you retarded for a post that you didn't make and it makes no sense for you to have made, now have a paragraph about it because I'm showing you that I hate blogging
Thanks?
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Plot twist. I was Satan all along! I'm only here to kill him.
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>>95045885
At least you made it relevant this time.
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>>95045885
anon confirmed for lawfag
just keeps getting better
stay tuned
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>>95045885

Your g really looks like a 9.
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>>95045885
Only 5 fingers I'm not convinced.
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>>95045952
She's easily a 10 though, look at all those tits.
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>>95045832
Oh, my mistake, now I see, >>95043303 was your first post. That's even worse, you started blogging right from the beginning.

>I am, and I'm not. So, eh.
So you are just pretending to be a total retard?
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>>95045885
>tfw no qt satan gf
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>>95046054
Wow, you clearly are retarded, that would also not make sense as my first post.

>So you are just pretending to be a total retard?
Are you?
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>>95046054
>pretending
implying an idiot could recognize his own idiocy just from its mention is pretty dumb, anon
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>>95046142
First shitpost. Doesn't really matter, you made, what 20 posts or so, and only your first one managed to not include your personal life.
Like I said if you were here that long, you wouldn't have reacted like this and shitted up this thread with totally off topic stuff.
Even this shitposter >>95045885 managed to be more relevant than you.
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This is making me miss alignment wars.
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>>95046291
Wait, it did include your personal life. You also could've just said that the old SMT logo is a good one.
But yeah I don't want to be pedantic.
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>>95046291
So it's my fault people are stupid and can't answer basic questions about their logic?

And you dragging this out is also my fault, as well as I am supposed to congratulate you because it's not shitposting when you do it?

You certainly are proving your point by doing what you are complaining about.

>>95046396
>Wait, it did include your personal life. You also could've just said that the old SMT logo is a good one.
Okay, so now I should reply to any post pertaining to people playing or having played the games this thread is about and complain about them talking about their personal life?
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>>95046396
>>95046490
http://flockdraw.com/smtshitposting
there's a chat interface in this client, you two can hash it out all you like without shitting things up for the rest of us
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>>95046648
But it wouldn't be the same without you Senpai-Kun.
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>>95046703
i'm already there
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>>95046490
>So it's my fault people are stupid and can't answer basic questions about their logic?
Of course not, don't waste my time. It's your fault that you felt the need to respond with a detailed description of your life. We now know that Anonymous has a girlfriend, friends, interests other than SMT which his friends unfortunately don't happen to share with him, so he comes here etc.
I'm not saying that I'm not posting off topic stuff. I just want to explain to you why blogging is shitposting since nobody else since 2006 seems to have done it, so that next time you won't shit this thread up with hundred posts talking about your life with other people. This is simple. You really seem to like logic, so I'm surprised you couldn't come up with that yourself.

Like I said, I don't want to be pedantic, I just felt the need to point out that literally everyone of your posts since the beginning of this topic had something to do with your life.
Obviously nobody would say anything if that had been your only post.
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>>95046740
Yes, but are you erect?
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>>95046490
In all seriousness, is there something bad going on in your physical life? Is your girlfriend related somehow? There's really no other reason you'd be this mad, and try to take it out on the internet. We're not trying to be harsh. We can help you if you tell us about it.
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>>95046881
You really need to keep shitposting? Even now?
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>>95046648
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Who is your SMT Human waifu and Demon waifu?
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Since everyone in the thread needs to get it out of their system apparently.

http://strawpoll.me/3685663
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>>95047051
looks like you need to download the latest version of flashplayer to view the client
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>>95047051

Works for me.
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Man I can't help but feel responsible for helping to kill this general
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>>95046921
>Even now?
What? How does that matter for shitposting?

>>95047070
The one in your image.
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>>95047105
>pick one
fuck me, not even this strawpoll knows the depths of my sorrow
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>>95047070
Cu Chulain and Izanagi.
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Remember when we used to actually use flockdraw?

Good times.
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>>95047105
Are you out of your mind?
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>>95047159
>Hua Po
>Chiaki
Will you be my nigga?
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>>95047159
We just had a ton of it.
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>>95047210
I remember when it was wild and free, when drawfags got scared off by faggot raiders with big white brushes, before they added admin-undo and shit like that. Now flockdraw is all people actually drawing and the community just isn't nearly as inviting or fun. Damn shame.
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>>95047210
>much good old days
Fuck off you fucking loser
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>>95047281

Lawfags ruin everything.
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>>95047303
Oh no, you, an epic new fag said fuck! What ever shall I do?
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Is this a good idea?
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>>95047281
>some dude drawing detailed face
>someone else starts drawing the nose
>it's a dicknose
>whole room throws a shitfit
I miss it.
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>>95047378
no
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>>95047378
Yes, they're all great and worth the price.
I hope you enjoy them.
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>>95047378
>dds
Trash. Unredeemable trash
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>>95047378
yep, long as you aren't a casual or a faggot
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>>95047378
Other than DDS, yes. DDS is broken.
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>>95047378
PSN DDS is terrible, just emulate it or buy an actual PS2 copy.
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So I'm replaying DDS and actually going to do the side content. Do the bonus bosses all require new game+ or just demifiend?

>>95047378
raidou 1 is pretty shitty to be honest, if raidou 2 is on the store get it because it's way better
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>>95047254
Sure.
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>>95047505
Raidou 2 is on the store but only 1 is on 30% sale
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>>95047501
>>95047503
Didn't they fix it?

>>95047540
I would say that raidou 2 is at least 30% better
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>>95047501
>>95047503
What's wrong with DDS on PSN?
>>95047510
Nice.
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>>95047378
>buying games
What a cuck. Keep on getting fucked in your ass by atlus bitch boy
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>>95047597
>not buying the games
Enjoy Persona 5, I guess.
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>>95047597
>>>/v/
Get the hell out of here faggot
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>>95047648
Gonna get that on my cfw ps3 nigga
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>>95047737
Wow, did you actually completely miss the point there? It's not that you can't enjoy P5 without paying, it's that refusing to support mainline is refusing to fight the rising tide of persona fans, which makes more persona releases.
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>>95047586
So do chiaki and isamu count as demons after their transformations?

I thought only humans could have reasons? Do halfbreeds not count?
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>>95047802
Don't bother.
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>>95047812
Nocturne can't be expected to have coherent writing, bro.
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FLOCKDRAW IS GIVING ME A SEIZURE

FUCKING STOP
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>>95047812
They'd be considered Fiends after the transformation like Naoki right?
I'd still refer to them as humans because of their origins though
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Should I get these digital PSN copies or should I just wait out a cheaper price on the physical copies? Raidou is near $30 new but Nocturne and DDS are ~$15. When do you think Atlus will stop printing copies?
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>>95047812
>>95047873
>>95047906
It's not that demons CAN'T have a reason, it's just that humans naturally generate a lot more magatsuhi/maganatite than pureblood demons.

Nobody pointed out that the mantra, an organization comprised entirely of demons, we're being idiots by trying to have a reason (and indeed, they're seen as a threat by nihilo and have to be wiped out instead of just letting them run free).

The mantra didn't have an actual sponsor like the other reasons did to draw magatsuhi from and summon a proper god for their reason, so they were clubbing humans and manikins for it instead.

This is what happens when you make a game where most of the plot is only implied or only given if you do the difficult bonus dungeon
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>>95047961
Well that's really up to you now isn't it?
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>>95047961
Just get physical copies or emulate, especially for DDS.
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>>95048095
I was under the impression the Mantra didn't even know about Creation and just wanted to rule the Vortex World endlessly.
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>>95047802
We're already the black sheep of Atlus, May as well just do what we want, why bother trying anymore? Persona will always win
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>>95048196
gozu tennou and thor did, at any rate, that's why one talks about chiaki carrying on his ideals and the other joins up with her

the random oni were probably just in it for breaking stuff, but that's grunts of the chaos faction in every game
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>>95048196
I think there was a switch. At first they wanted to rule over the vortex world. But then realized that that wasn't a coherent long term goal, and they should make an actual world out of it.

>>95048290
gozu tennou says at one point that he didn't at first. He changed his mind when he ran into chiaki
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>>95048229
Are you stupid? They'll continue making games if they get money.
They won't if they don't. It's as easy as that.
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>>95048460
Not SMT games
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>>95048460
I think it's hilarious that SMT autists see Atlus making Persona 5 with HD demon enemies and somehow think they've been abandoned.

A child could see that P5 will be this generation's Nocturne in terms of how much it gets recycled.
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