/wtg/ - War Thunder General

1st for RB is the shittiest game mode

>activate ultra slav quality
>suddenly situational awareness 200% improved
Why is this allowed?
I don't care if they have to have billboarded green rectangles put in place, lower quality giving an objective advantage is bullshit.

2nd for tioga!

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Xth for small family company

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th for T-44 STRONK

>>93554059
ok, shitposter

>>93554312
Thats a Tiger you idiot.

8th for WT without ultra sim events is utter shit

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>>93554465

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OK anyone can explain me Slav constructing logic?
T-44
>Fuel tank in front
>Ammo rack in most vulnerable areas
Su-152
>Flat armor that wouldn't bounce any shell bigger then 37mm
>Ammo placed everywhere to make sure tank will explode after penetration
>Big ass shells that weight more then crew members
ISU-152
>Look up, same story
IS-2
>Driver surrounded by fuel tanks
>Ammo placed stored behind fuel tank to make sure explosion will destroy half of yrope

>>93554312
That's a Cobray pocket pal, clearly.

>>93554527
It's shooting so what's wrong?

Nth for Pasta planes when

>>93554527
Because crew safety is overrated ;)
The point was to not get hit. If you failed to hit the enemy first and got hit, you did not fulfill your commitment to the communist movement and Stalin and therefore your life didn't matter anymore.

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>>93554729
Crew safety?
>>93554867
Makes sense

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git
gut

>>93555227
doing God's work anon

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>>93555227

Chaffee is bullshit
Walker Bullshit is bullshit
3.3BR German Railguns are bullshit
Damage/Ballistics model is bullshit
Minimap meta is bullshit
ded game

>>93555227
>tfw only got the locust so far

>Armored Warfare is pretty much an exact clone of WoT

I was expecting it to be similar, but not nearly so identical.

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>>93555227

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>>93555227

>>93555678
So is it released?

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F4F-3 or F4F-4?

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>>93555227
this is pretty good

>>93555869
No, still in alpha. Just some youtubers have game play up.

Even the artillery mechanics are exactly the same.

>>93555921
F6F/P-36

>>93555990
KEK, got to watch it then for lulz

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CRYBABIES IS GONNA KEEP CRYING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdyPhdZLWmA

>>93556119
I never got why he bitches about people playing with low settings.

Nigger, I can't go above Medium if I want 30fps. Some of us have toasters and, you know, responsibilities that keep us from just buying a better rig. Deal with it.

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If some of you guys are into /o/ at the Retromobil event there will be the Tiger II exposed, still in working condition

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This games devs are the biggest fucking jews every holy fuck

Tiger 2 a shit
m103s gun rapes everything

fuck this

>>93556271
Medium or low does fuck all compared to high.
It's the legacy mode that removes grass, brush, smoke, fog etc. that's the problem.

So I am in no way defending this shit as there should be a solution but these faggots do know that games have suffered from these problems since graphics settings have existed right? Hell in competitive play people put their graphics down to a minimum in order to get perfect frame times.


This isn't something new in Warthunder.

>>93556419

Tiger 2 gun is over performing compared to reality, so is all the american guns though.

>>93556419
Tiger 2 was shit irl

>>93556117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_RizEpmxhc

>>93556419
SHOULD"VE WON THE WOR

>>93556298
>exposed
L-lewd!

>>93556447
Was for >>93556119

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>>93556517
>Artillery is even worse than in WoT

>>93556517
Thanks anon

>>93555678
It's like WoT just not in a fucking awful engine. How long till wargaming waits for it to get to a certain point and then buys it then ports their ww2 tanks over?

So what is your opinion on bombers kamikaze-ing in AB, /wtg/? I see a lot of people getting buttflustered about seeing a bomber nosedive, which is extremely misplaced rage... the actual plane crash does literally 0 damage to anything on the ground, and is furthermore just a symptom of the crappy, throwaway format of the air strikes in AB.

>>93556462
>>93556497
The tank was not shit
When the engine was not breaking down

How do I into bombers for mad stax of cash?

>>93556419
>didn't win war
>cries

>>93556846

Couldn't penetrate IS-2 with regular ammo.

>>93557049
The Skellington brings in silver shekels when it kills bases

>>93556419
>free to play
>jews

pick one

>>93556517
>nametag shooting
>arbitrary accuracy circle
>healthbars
W H Y
H
Y

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>>93557148
>bomb base
>5RP

>>93556119
>you can see the ai tanks with the foliage turned off
>you can still see the ai tanks with the foliage turned back on

How horribly broken.

>>93554527
simplicity.

Just like the slav planes and ships, they were incredibly primitive. No thought put into it besides
>Does it work?
and
>How do we put the biggest gun we have on it?

the ussr was massive enough to never have to worry about materials or population and they were bordering their enemy, so they didn't need to overengineer everything like germans or hit out a bunch of mass produced tanks that could be rapidly transported across the sea like americans.

>>93557110
With PzGr. 39/43?

>>93557252
Did you see the magic buffing spells that scout tanks get?

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>>93555227
>M24
>Kuban
>ultra slav quality
>bragging about it being a shitter

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Almost shit the pantaloons

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>>93557481
>supporting the nazi party

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>h-hokay comrades, i am of leaving peacfully now :^)

>>93555227
Why aren't you sucking MOD's cock?

No really, why?

>>93557798
>arkadium

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>>93556517
>Wiesel

>>93557481
*tips Stahlhelm*

>>93556718
It's because shitters don't know how to bomb. Some might do it instinctively however because they don't want to get analed by fighters.

>>93557110
And the IS-2 couldn't pen the King Tige either with regular ammo

>>93556517

I'll play it because it's the only multiplayer tank game with modern tanks

Just like I played world of tanks because it was the only multiplayer tank game (that wasnt super obscure anyways)

>>93556517
This is being made by Obsidian of all studios?
Ded game.

>>93556718
It becomes a problem in AB mainly because no matter how fast you go the plane can still bomb you just because they can drop their bombs point blank crash and have no penalty at all.


Its like having a guided missile more than having a bomber, if there was a punishment for dying or suicide in the plane (Like your tank crew dies) then a lot more people would use the bombers for bombing rather than guided missileing (I mean for fuck sake you are given a fucking marker how the shit can you not aim those fucking bombs?)

>>93557798
Was having a fantastic game in a chafee last night. Taking cap circles. Fighting off the enemy. recaping more cap circles. Driving circles around heavier tanks. Flanking the shit out of the enemy. This was all really close quarters city fighting, Eastern Europe. The match is just about to end and I go sliding around one last alley corner, and straight into four enemy KV-1s, turrets pointed right at me.

Felt like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7qwqVbZSqE

Does the first Meteor have torque? In the virtual cockpit, the climb indicator always drift off to the right.

>>93556517
>WoT modern warfare

literally, what a piece of shit.

I've only unlocked the IS-1 and played a couple missions so far. Having a lot more fun with it than the KV series.

Are later IS's this much fun?

>>93559079
later they become hard to use

>>93556517
Interesting the way Jingles ends this video

>It doesn't matter if the game is good or not, the only thing that matters is whether or not it will steal players from WoT.

I guess if I were an investor in said video game companies, then I'd put importance in their profits. But as a player I'm more interested whether or not a game is better.

Who is Jingles speaking for in these videos?

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>>93557423

Yeah, Tiger IIs were issued with Pzgr. 40/43 if they were expected to face IS-2.

>>93558197

Except the basic ammunition for the IS-2 could penetrate 202mm at 1500m, and the henshell turret was flat with 185mm armour.

The IS-2 actually had no problem penetrating the Tiger II.

Picture related, it's a King Tiger hit from the front with a 122mm shell.

I want the event to come back.
I just can't play SB with the minimap markers bullshit

>>93559362
Long barrelled 122 like on the IS-2? Or howitzer type gun on an SU-122?

Looks like the Germans have developed a new Heavy tank, the "Tiger" tank
http://www.lonesentry.com/tigerheavytank/index.html

>>93559369
I miss the Super SB.

>>93559531

IS-2, the Su-122 can't hope for more than 165mm penetration at almost point blank range.

>>93559665
Doesn't have to pen it kinetically, HE round at 122 mm has enough explosives to just blow it the fuck apart.

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Fixed the dora lol

>>93559813
kek

>>93559362
Test drove the IS-2 last night, and just by luck I popped the turret off of every single target german vehicle I hit.

Wondered what was going to happen with the jagdtiger, since it didn't have a turret. Instead the entire gun when flying out, breach included. Thought it looked ridiculous, but looks kinda like that's what happened in that photo.

>>93559813
Looks like the girl from Generation War.
10/10

>>93559813
that nose kills it for me

post Nummer 13,kek

>>93559813
Someone link me to grouchy's blog, I want to do liberator faces on the mig9

>spitfires turnfighting my cannon Chaika
>spitfires turnfighting my Zero
>spitfires turnfighting my Ki-43
Sasuga

>>93556271
better rig

>my current "rig" is a 350€ budget machine. thats a weeks salary for every holidayjob a teenager can get... bug i forget. people on in this general dont work. they just shitpost the whole day.

>>93556119
he has a point but isnt able to properly explain it.

fact is:
>lower settings=higher siturational awareness
>to remain competetive, people are "forced" to do it.

>>93556517
literally a 1to1 wot copy. same UI, same gameplay, same game.

>>93560264
http://grouchybadger.tumblr.com/

Friendly reminder that Sherman is balanced.

>>93559362
>Picture related, it's a King Tiger hit from the front with a 122mm shell.

>A Shell
>as in one shell

ok stalin

>>93561052
Agreed - But the M4A1 is the best one until M4 (76)

posted from my Chaffee, though

>>93561141

It was hit with many shells, but 1 shell went through the glacial plate cleanly.

>>93559792

Hitting the front plane of Ferdinands usually cause it to explode with high explosive shells, since you fuck it's entire top armour.

>>93561008
>http://grouchybadger.tumblr.com/


hahaha it's real

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>>93561008
>posts that he has no respect for ponyfags
>literally a few posts away from gory spanking furshit and frzshit

Reminder that the Pz. IV F2 is more than a match for everything it faces

>>93561768
I oneshot F2 daily in shermans, fuck off

>>93561768
It would be if the only objective was to kill enemy tanks.

but by forcing it into the open and into close combat it becomes weaker in most cases.

>>93561768
COMPLETELY BALANCED
MORE GERMANS IN QUE PLEASE I WANT TO PLAY MY M4

>>93561572
i would love to know if it was shell number one that hit and penetrated or number 23.

So when's gayjew going to add alternate history ground battles? its a pain in the ass to queue anything past AB because nobody wants to play germans.

What song do you listen to while blowing out Ground targets?

>Ki 102
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgrg7f8oHE4

>>93561936

"Shot #4. Target: upper front plate. Shell: 122 mm AP pointed type. Distance: 600 m.
Result: penetration, hole is 180 mm by 250 mm. A piece of armour is torn off the rear side, 580 mm by 500 mm, 80 mm in thickness. The shell struck close to the non-penetrating hit from shell #3. The shell remained in the tank."

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>>93561768
ayy

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>>93562198
>playing GF when there is no event
pleb

Wanna know the weirdest bias I just found?

Go look down the barrel of end-tier German and Russian tanks with the armor viewer.

German tanks receive flat "armor" inside the barrel, making it effectively 20-40mm thick.

Russian tanks get this weird magical inverse cone going on in every single one of theirs, increasing the inner-barrel armor to 60-80; and in the case of the ISU-152, ">160mm."

Fancy that.

>>93562483
sneaky gaijin

>>93562483
I finished off a JT not so long ago by damaging it's breech with the fiddycal

>>93562483

Just looked at some American tanks. They get it too. You need at least 60-80mm pen, or more to pen down America/Russian barrels at batshit angles that are likely to auto-bounce. With Germany, you need 20-30mm pen on flat plates that are extremely unlikely to bounce. M46 gets 90mm.

I almost noted that the KV-2 has no inner lining, but it actually does. The 90mm mantlet is hidden inside the barrel too.

ayy

>>93562483
Tiger II (P) had like 130-something mm effective, not consistently biased in Russia's favor

FIX YOUR FUCKING NETWORK GAIJIN


>ping 150+
>packet loss 30%+

for fucks sake

>>93533468
How the fuck are you supposed to see out of the front of that?

Does any one use the fucking vg chat in warthunder?

>>93562904
>implying its gaijin and not a node in between you and the server
though I wont deny the gaijin servers sometimes are absolute shit

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>zhengzhou
>get ufo'd

>>93562893

The H has 30mm.

P has 140mm.

I was looking mostly at end-tier V tanks though.

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>>93562309
leaving the question of what hit the tank first. small guns or big guns?

100mm d10t or 203mm b4?

clearly, those are hardly scientific methods of testing gun penetration.

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Is speccing into light American tanks and going fast a viable strategy in sim mode?

My thoughts are

>Go light tanks
>Put crew points into reload and driving
>Go fast and hit them
>Go fast and escape
>Reloading before they can reload and pound them

>>93563067
>THAT FUCKING FRENCH SERVER


WHY, WHY IS THAT FUCKING FRENCH SERVER SO BAD?

>>93563032
Not when you're chat banned because you said nigger in the squad chat

>>93563157
Pretty much. Also you can flank way the fuck around and come at them where they least expect it. Can't be looking everywhere at once in sim, so surprising the opponent is huge.

>>93562904

>Texas
>Choose NA Server
>250-300 Ping
>10% Packet Loss
>mfw playing games w/ Canadian friends and getting 80 ping
>mfw playing games w/ UK friends and getting 160 ping
>mfw playing games w/ Nippon friend and getting 210 ping
>mfw when it's probably faster to do a full 360 around the globe and back to me than to play on their "NA" servers sometimes.


Conversely, sometimes I get one server where I have like 18 ping and that's really nice.

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>>93563120
Yeah seems inconsistent, not sure if it was done on purpose or not. Maybe a dev played and had his barrel shot off and got pissed so he snuck and did that on the tanks he liked the most at the time

>>93563157
absolutely, fast tanks are best
once you get the chaffee you'll be so used to being a tiny little faggot that it'll feel slow in comparison, but it's still great

Why am I able to sometimes able to fire another round right after I just fired one? In tanks. It's like an instant reload

>>93563553
>play tier 1 Germans
>5° per hour turret rotation
>mfw one of these faggots circles me

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Any one know of a place for sailor moon skins for russian planes?

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Reminder.

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>>93563032

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>>93563804
Reminder.

>>93563564
You mean you click LMB once and two rounds fire almost simultaneously?

Ping spike. You client fired, but took slightly longer to register on the server. Used to be a much bigger problem than it is now, but if you've got connection issues it still crops up.

>>93563851
nani? why is that? did you say nigger?

>>93563486
I got around this bullshit using a tunneling service. Try one to see if its better with it.

Why is the Pershing and Patton so balanced, /wtg/?

>>93563135

Both ways of testing a valid.

You have field tests with normal ammo vs normal tanks.

And controlled tests of a set gun vs a steel plate.

You need both kinda tests to get a full picture of the performance.

>>93563826
>>93563905
4u

>>93563486

Tunneling service? Tell me more.

>>93563553

I think it's just laziness honestly. Like how many new tanks have coax MGs that don't move with the gun and then clip. This has happened almost every time new tanks are added.

>>93563905
dafuq is nani?

>>93556517
Why the fuck can't we get tank warfare games without RNG horseshit?

>>93564521
means "What" in Jap

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>>93564521
embrace it

>>93564571
Well of course you're going to want some RNG. A shot fired at range will randomly disperse over a given area.

But yeah, RNGs like this are just lazy.

How good are the Typhoons? The Late one seems rather nice with 4 cannons, what about the 1a?

>>93565056
Suffers from a bad case of .303.
Guaranteed to be the fastest plane in the match though iirc.

>>93565056
The first Typhoon with 10 gazillion MGs is pretty shit because the guns do almost nothing.

The rest is pretty good. Kinda like a FW190 with worse weapon layout but better maneuvering in the horizontal.

>>93565056
Pretty good once you get used to them. Took me a little bit. But it's a nice progression into the Tempests, and the Tempests, imo, best props in the game.

Typhoon 1a with 12 .303s teaches you how to manage your engine and maneuverability to hug someone close enough to smell their ass waft; because you're going to have to be that close to do any damage.

>>93565264
>>93565285
Guess I'll keep the first one for looks and grind the xp needed for the Late model in my hurricanes and spitfires.
>>93565472
>once you get used to them
Any tips?

>>93565475
What belt is best for it?

>>93565638

Anything except tracer. Stealth might give you more time to put initial fire on, but you'll want Universal or something with a single tracer hiding in it to make sure you're actually getting all 12 on target.

>>93565601
Just practice. It doesn't roll and turn like Spitfires. Flies more like American fighters. Great in a dive.

The .303 threes aren't really a problem if you keep your gun convergence in mind, and now how to use it properly. That's also a matter of practice. It's got a shitload of them, so you can saw right through any plane you see at convergence.

>>93565601
learn who can you outturn, then who you can outvertical, then who you can outrun/dive

go headon with rest or seek team help

Why is the regular MiG-15 so shit?

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>Russian 44 planes BRed with 41 planes of other nations
>literally nobody queues Russia-Germany historical events on the Russian side

>>93565782
>>93565851
Thanks. I have a bit of xp flying american planes. Hope it helps.

>>93564746
I hate that bitch's voice
One of the most annoying characters ever

Reminder German ground shitters = US burgclappers

>>93565056
Great l2p plane.
You will learn to shoot and to vertical or you will die trying.

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P O S T T R A X
O
S
T
R
A
X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLAwltdfhz4

>>93565056
Really good
Climb well, fast, manuverable
Hard to beat if you know what you're doing

>>93566610
Oh, good luck trying to shoot down a Yak though.

>>93566510
And soon too be Jap naval shitters

>>93566056
Oh and be sure to get it aced. One of those planes that struggles when stock, but rapes when aced.

>>93556517
>At least they got Italian tanks ;)

>>93566930
Like, the Ariete?

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>>93566682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpm8_Gv0mR8

>>93566930
They don't even have nations.

It's all a black market thing where you just buy any tank you want, doesn't matter where they come from

Also Italian tank tree in GF confirmed

>>93567029
yes and the Centauro IFV
>>93567192
Sauce pls

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>>93566682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxSCAalsBE

>>93556718
>arcade

>>93559356
he's not really speaking for anyone, just had to say really around that the game sucks because all the videos about it had to be shown to the devs before they are approved to be released

>>93567264
White Wolf, or whatever the dev's name is, in the Q&A threads. Coming after brit tanks, but doesn't know if Italian tanks or Jap tanks will be after that.

>>93567396
My pasta is ready

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>>93556517
>not having the Puma

>>93567443
I guess they won't have late war tanks, but some of those early war tanks look like they'd be pretty fun and interesting to play.

Especially those StuG-like TDs. Semoventes or something like that?

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>>93566682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf9a_DHHnFw

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>>93567524
Yes the Semovente 75

Thanks man you made my day

Are there any brit tonks in the dev scene with all ground vehicles?

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>>93567667
>Ace Combat Zero

muh negro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtDhQGERc6g

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>>93566682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCTaxGhRC5M

Holy fuck the cannon on the F4U-1c suck

The fucking spread oh my god

>>93567691
Rivets are disgusting.

>>93567691
Why do you guys get all hard for Pasta ground forces?
I'm Italian but i couldn't care less about those generic-rushed designs
I get that the serie-5 is really good looking, but what about tanks?

>>93567691
The P-40 looks like it would match up pretty well against the early Shermans. Similar armor, similar gun.

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>>93566682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWZf_RBcB_Y

>>93567965
They look nice

>>93568843

an improvement

>>93568843
14/10

>>93568843
CYKA/10

Tiger soon.
What am I in for?

>>93569246
Tiger I?
Don't play like a dumb faggot and you will rape them all

>>93569246
hard to use

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>>93569246

>>93569246

Clubbing Shermans

Being clubbed by Pershings

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>this war thunder artist feels he is superior to horsefuckers for some reason
answers in the form of a question

is there a point to using HE on the 105mm against shit like panthers and tigers?

or just HEAT all day?

>>93569487
Nice shitpost

>>93569386
>>93569401
How hard, exactly?
>>93569359
>>93569453
What about Jumbos?

>>93569487

why

>>93569708

Jumbos will eat you for breakfast if they're paying attention

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>>93569401
>mfw during that entire doujin

>>93569516
>take out the 105 last night for the first time
>fire at a BT-7 50 meters away, right in the front
>minor damage

This wasn't the seal clubbing machine /wtg/ lead me to believe.

>>93569954
R E T A R D
E
T
A
R
D

>>93569954

it's the most hit or miss shit I have ever seen.

I have blasted tigers from the front and 1 shot them and then fired at pz IIIs in the side or ass and taken more than 2-3 shots to kill.


it's a wonky fucking system but hilarious.


all the more hilarious when using a KV-2 and insta-killing three Tiger II H's from the side while having trouble with a jagdpanther.

>H6K's that dont land in the water and pop landing craft with their tail gunner

literally useless

>>93555678
Making it more like WT realism/sim mode would have been much better. Blowing up MBTs with ATGMs from your shitty little armored car a couple of clicks away would be beautiful

I just want to give a big big shout out to all Japanese players that have bomb pylons unlocked on their planes

without you guys, winning matches against american players that climb to the stratosphere and speed away all game would be impossible. but thanks to you guys you bomb the shit out of their ground targets and show those faggoty american players whos boss.

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>>93570106
HARD TO USE

>>93570480
it's hell when I have to bomb shit with 50kilos

>>93570480
Yeah, sure is nice to try to bomb shit with 50kg, 100kg and 250kg bombs, all of which do fucking nothing.

>>93570480
Yeah, whatever weeb

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>>93570615
Tank kill webms?
Tank kill webms

>>93570792

>250kg
>nothing

jesus how shit r u?

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>>93571000
never 4get

>>93571000
>transmission gets hit
>fire

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>>93571076

>>93571007
I'm pretty damned sure they have the explosive radius of 50kg's.
It'd be lovely if this was wrong, though. No like, seriously.

>>93570792
250kg can destroy carriers if bombed in the center

>>93567264
Is there a list of confirmed armore warfare vehicles somewhere?

>>93571236

I can easily kill any target in the game, I guess except battleships/carriers, with 250kg easy. Even player tanks, if you're accurate.

100kg are really only good against light pillboxes and AI ground units unless you're autistically accurate against players.

50kgs are a joke. I mean you might get a AI/Player tank with them if it goes down the commander's cupola or something.

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>>93571000

Brit tonks when?

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>>93571461

>>93571461
So like, is that supposed to show that the stug was ripped asunder by the explosion but they can't show that visually or what?

>>93571401
Fair enough. I admit that I never rarely get the chance to bomb anything, but the last time I checked the 250kg's required me to be pretty retardedly accurate, but maybe that's because most (if not all) of my planes that had 250kg's had them mounted on the wings, which really fuck with my aim.
100kg can actually kill light pillboxes? Well shit, I was pretty sure only the 250kg and heavier stuff could kill it.

>>93571814
I think it's just a kill cam bug

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>>93571814
that is supposed to show how complex the DMs are, which is shite

>>93572027

250kg has to go right into the center of a Pillbox the same way a 100kg has to literally hit dead center underneath (no hitboxes) of a Light Pill to kill it.

I know because I ground out some insane amount of RP with the Tu-2S-59 using 9 x 100kg bombs and winning shit like Berlin/Ruhr (I think?) in two sorties.

>>93572069
See, but that's a high tier artillery shell, which would blow a tiger the fuck out of it hit that close.

>>93571474
When historically unrelevant OP for spoonfed crybabies shit gets implemented in the game

>>93572326
>unrelevant

thats not a word

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>>93572069
>yfw

>>93571474

Brit Tonks? You mean "oh god the Matilda/Valentine/Churchill variants please stop" nation?

I mean, if you really want, here's just Churchills:

Churchill Mk 1 - 2 Pounder and 3 Inch Howitzer
Churchill Mk II (Ia) - 2 Pounder
Churchill Mk IICS (Close Support) - 3 Inch Howitzer shoved in turret, 2 Pounder in hull.
Churchill Mk III - 6 Pounder. Welded turret.
Churchill Mk IV - 6 Pounder. Cast Turret.
Churchill Mk IV (75) - Given a British Mk V 75mm gun.
Churchill Mk V - 95mm Howitzer. Cast turret.
Churchill Mk VI - 75mm Mk V cannon. Slight additional armor.
Churchill Mk VII - 75mm Mv V cannon. Wider. Lots of additional armor. "Heavy Churchill"
Churchill Mk VIII - A Mk VII with a 95mm Howitzer. Slightly different turret.
Churchill Mk IX - A Mk III/IV with a VII turret and 75mm Mk V Cannon. Extra armor.
Churchill Mk IX LT - As above, but retaining the 6 Pounder.
Churchill Mk X - Same as the IX, but to a VI Hull.
Churchill Mk XI - 95mm Howitzer. Churchill V with lots of additional armor and a Mk VIII turret.

Churchill NA75 - Churchill VIs using guns and mantlets from Sherman tanks. Same 75mm as the Sherman.

Churchill Gun Carrier Mk I - A tank destroyer variant using a QF 3-Inch 20 cwt Anti-Aircraft gun. 50 Built. None used because the 17-Pounder ripped shit anyways and was soon coming out on the Challenger.

Churchill AVRE - A Mk III or IV Hull equipped with a 290mm Spigot Mortar.
(18kg ammo with 12kg charges.)

Churchill AVRE (Post War) - A Mk VII hull equipped with a 165mm Demolition Gun.
(29kg ammo with 18kg charges.)

>>93572210
People only pay attention to the penetrating shells and shrapnel, but they ignore the explosions themselves.

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>>93572210
a shell big enough to do that to a tiger would need to be past 300mm caliber or a 250+ bomb

plus look at the fucking damage it did
>>93572597
NONE OF THOSE WILL BE NESTED

>Fire HE out of 105mm Sherman
>Hits the ground
>Sends sharpnel (I guess?) flying at an enemy tank
>Enemy tank gets hit by someone
>Get a kill assist

Sim is weird sometimes

>be inna is-1
>one game porsche tiger's gun sight bounces a round point blank
>next game i somehow sneak an aphe round through the mantlet of a henschel turret at 400m

I don't get it

>>93572741
Nested?

Also there's the Canal Defense Project and Black Prince if you wanna get technical about more armed variants.

>>93572597
That plus the plethora of cruiser tanks and the cromwell is honestly good enough

>>93572741
>need to be past 300mm caliber
Do you have a source for that?

Also, hasn't gaijin said what shells are used for which tiers of artillery? Something like 152 for era 1-2 and 210 for higher tiers?

>[JG508] are shitters
It's almost as if this was completely to be expected.

Being able to unselect games against burger in the MM when?

>>93573870
You're getting rekt by Burgers? Lol

>>93573870
Mixing krauts and burgers vs sovoks in SB when?

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>Ju88, stock, Kursk
>waddle my way to 4500m
>hammer spacebar for 74RP since i still have 50kgs
>SB2M attempts to buzz me, fails
>return to base, fighters are all dead
>repair and hold J
i should've expected this

>>93573927
>implying I ever said such thing
Clubbing braindead P-80s on Hokkaido is tiresome after some time.

>>93574116
>german bombers

you brought this on yourself

unless its the sm.79

>>93574180
I'm sure you're just too good ;^)

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>>93557798
>

got back from school, any one want to squad up? Im in the chat.

>Consistently stay within the top 5 players on tonks
>Consistently die like a bitch and stay below the top 10 on planes

Main reason I wanted to play this was the planes. Pls help, tired of being an earthbound misfit I

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Flying the 109 G-2 premium, the 109 G6, the 190 A5/U2 and the 410 B6/R3 I haven't been matched against Soviets once for the past month. I have also only ever seen the Sicily, Norway and Ruhr maps for the past month.

Why.

>>93574241
What's so good about the Sparviero?

Just minor nation street cred?

>>93574241
are the spaghetti bombers that much better? They seem to have the same bombloads.

>>93574265
Sometimes people don't like waiting 5 minutes for 1 game

>>93574251
Nice meme shitlord.

>>93574318
no

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>tfw need to play Malta for muh camos
>tfw never get Malta

>>93574383
Damn, you're salty. I think you might have some self esteem issues.

>>93574382
what the fuck, both RB and SB have queues less than 30 seconds

>>93574359
What plen are you flying?
Know your plane, know your enemy's plane, stick with your team, don't fuck up, etc.

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>>93574484
Remember when Malta was source of memes?

>>93574549
I'll be waiting up to 5 minutes for sim games a lot. The match making is fucking shit.

>>93574549
>SB
>30 seconds queues

Never ever

>>93574362
>>93574484
I haven't seen Malta for months, same with that Dover map. did they remove them or what?

>>93573481
152 is meant to be the top caliber

but do you have any source on high caliber artillery shells damaging tanks with splash other than track damage?

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FM-2 when?
F6F-5 when?

>>93574828
The last time I saw Malta I was flying the 109 F4 Trop still. The last time I saw the Dover map I was flying the He 112.

>>93574590
Assorted low tier planes, I've been playing for little over a month.

I know the basics, usually try to stay higher than my target then swoop down for the kill, then I disengage and try again. Problem is I hardly hit anything doing this and soon enough some fucker comes in and kills me in a handful of shots

>sovoks so bad they refuse to face Spagett, the 109F-4, and the Bf 110

>>93574652
>That Chaika face

God Dammit

>Wait a while to find a game
>Click cancel
>It finds me a game

Repeatedly does this shit. All sever regions selected

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>>93575191
forgot image

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>>93574652
I've only been here a month or so

>>93575354

>escort mission
>only one plane option available

gee I wonder why more people aren't trying to join

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>>93575062
FM2 is my waifu
engine is stronger by like 150 hp
rockets
bombs
Shit would be redic

>>93575062
more like F6F fixed when

>>93572597
i just want muh tankfu firefly

>>93575153
>Problem is I hardly hit anything doing this
Well, that's your own problem. Maybe you were going too fast and the control stiffening messed your aim. Maybe your aim just wasn't good enough. Or maybe you acted a little hesitant and didn't do much deflection shooting. Although seeing as you're flying low tier planes, you probably flew an aircraft that rarely have cannons, in which case there is nothing to do but suffer through it. MGs are just shit all-around for now, except maybe the clap fiddies which are decent.
>and soon enough some fucker comes in and kills me in a handful of shots
As hopeless of an advice this might be (>trusting low-tier teams), stick with your team. Or you can avoid any engagements until you're %100 sure that %99 of the enemy team is at a lower altitude than you, and potentially take everybody by surprise. I find it useful with low-altitude planes in general. Your chances for getting kills will be lower of course, but this is the sacrifice you will make for survival.

>>93575658

what's wrong with it

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>>93571000

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P-36g is over-tiered.

>fly Ki-45 tei
>4 v 1
>go to use jazz muzik on PBY
>he gets shot down by carriers
>strafe an F2A
>hes dead
>P-36 crashes after pulling up too much after take off
>decide to rope a dope a P-26
>one bullet nicks my plane
>one
>my plane bursts into fucking flames
>almost all control surfaces gone
>crash into ocean

are you kidding me

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Why aren't you idort master race?

Why doesn't this thing track my kills in sim battles

>>93576140
is the Ferdinand any good?

>>93576390
>most played gamemode is arcade

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>>93555227
>thinks being able to kill a Pz III Ausf. M aka glasscannon is an achievement

>>93576245

outskilled faggot

>>93576390
>tank sim
>tank RB

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>>93568843
9/15

>>93576439

No.

>F2A prop hangs
>fill him with minengeschoss from Bf 110
>hes stalling
>pull away because one, hes full of 20mm holes
>two hes in a stall
>he pulls away and flies away just fine

sure thing boss

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>>93576390
>not being purple

>Join game
>Just as I spawn the framerate goes to shit
>Just as I regain control I crash

Thanks, gaijin

>>93577615
>6.6 KDR
confirmed FOTM shitter

>>93576498
>Pz III Ausf. M aka glasscannon
kamerad yuo must not speak so lowly of Fuhrer's legendary main battle tank

>>93575018
He has none since they don't do shit to tanks, which is why people seem so surprised there is artillery in wot.
the only way to do anything is hitting the roof

>>93572597
>please stop
No.
Pls continue, Brit tonks and north Africa maps pls

>>93575849
not him but everything.
Like in most planes but 90% of burger prop tree is completely fucked.

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>>93576439

You have to take it slow (it's impossible not to, really) and your sides are made of glass. BR 8.0 tanks pose a challenge but are killable. The gun's a laser and even BR 8.0 tanks have trouble penning you from the front. One of the main problems is how tall/huge it is unlike such low profile t0nks. Wouldn't call it as much of a clubber as the jagdpanther.

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>you have ten seconds to explain why you aren't flying under glorious orange, white and blue

>>93578134
>I don't know what's wrong with it so I'm going to say everything

Point out anything but the BR

>>93571461
>>93572069

These are deaths due to an armour piece being destroyed.

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Tfw no Souther drawl tank commander voice

>YES SIR!
>DE-LIGHTED TO, SIR!
>AB-SO-LUTELY
>I AM PREPARED TO DROP THE HAMMER!
>AND DISPENSE SOME INDISCRIMINATE JUSTICE
>PRO-CEEDIN
>WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION?

Why live

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On a scale from 0 to 10 how FUN is this plane?

>>93576439
No tank can save you from german teams.

>>93578319
its not hard to fake a southern accent

>>93578204

>even BR 8.0 tanks have trouble penning you from the front

Unless they're American.

Then they can do it at an angle from long range because 1957 tanks fighting those from 1943 is of fair and balance )))).

>>93578412
kitsuka takes it in both holes

>tfw no qt gf pilot

>>93578270
I belive its FM makes it unplayable on SB. It was supposed to be a spin machine. I havent used it so I'm just repeating.

>>93578412
-62

>>93578412

Waifu/10.

>>93578270
The br is the way it is because gaijin doesn't give a fuck about fixing the fms

>>93578412
-15

>>93578412
A solid 3/10

I just unlocked the Tempest Vickers P, what do I do?

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>>93578412
You don't fly it for fun, you fly it for her.

>>93577993
You guys do realize the 152mm howitzers carried by SU 152's could knock the turret off of a Tiger through sheer blast force with a direct hit right? Not to mention the effects of spalling and concussion of the blast, which was shown to be powerful enough to even kill crews inside Ferdinands, although the vehicle would normally still work after you shoveled the old crew out.

Hell, the SU 152 was the only reliable long range weapon they had to kill Tigers with at Kursk besides artillery or airplanes, that's why they built so many Su and ISU 152's afterwards, because they were good at knocking down fortifications and killing enemy tanks.

It doesn't matter how bad the war is going
Just smile and act cool

>>93578434
I know, I have one.

I just want my commander in game to have it too to bring back Starcraft nostalgia

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>>93578964
Wrong pic

>>93578563
What?
Idk how it's a spin machine, I can play it fine in SB.
If anything is wrong with it it's the fact that it has 0 energy retention. Also it cannot dive anymore to save it's life, worse than the P-47 now.
>>93578585
The BR is the way it is because before 1.35 AKA when BRs were introduced which is the same time the Hellcat got a new FM. The Hellcat was a huge fucking piece of shit. Turned like a P-47, was as fast as a Zero, climbed like a B-17. It was garbage, so anyone who played it usually sucked and died all the time.

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>>93574116
>not playing the Stuka

>there are people in this thread right now that think Saving Private Ryan is a good film.

>>93579581

>look at my hot contrarian opinions
>pls notice me

>>93579724
>notices me

Mission accomplished.

>>93579840

I'm glad I could help you anon

I'm lonely too