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There's at least that one guy who keeps saying that the Persona 4 bad end fucked him up and that it's easy to accidentally get.
I don't think it's possible to accidentally get P3's bad end.
Aigis for worst written character ever
and Im 100% serious; at least the Jav whore in 4 had some character to go along with her clinginess.
Aigis was all sempai and I will be near you and STICK YOUR FINGER IN MY SOCKET HOLE
There is not one single redeeming quality in her character other than being a plot device and her design being good for pornogarphy
other than that she;s fucking trash. This is why I like P4 more than P3, at least its CONSISTENT.
You don't have Yukari be the focus of attention and growth early on only for boom fucker here's Aigis cameras 1-7 focus on her for the remainder of the game
Because Persona is an offshoot of the SMT series and was meant as a more casual entry into the franchise aimed at kids
debating that P3 is harder than P4 is like arguing over which modern Nintendo Mario title is harder
they're all easy
Being subject to suffering makes the eventual happiness payout increase exponentially.
and for that one guy, fucking up P4 is easy as fuck
i managed to get the bad ending because i picked "i cant stay here" and had to fight namatame again
although when you think about it? its really the best ending
But most of the fan stuff has her in an awkward or distressing situation
I feel bad for her
But her life's been shit, she needs a rest from all the crap and be able to relax or be happy
But i can't do shit
It's happened before with a lot of characters who i like too
No matter how hard i want her to be happy, i can't do anything
It's like watching someone get pushed off a bridge
>Starter websites to learn:
She is. She's like something out of a children's storybook.
They wrote an empty character undefined by any past experiences that undergoes a radical change into an actual character. Whereas the rest of the cast faces conflict and nuanced resolutions with one another and behavior owed to the various complexes they had adopted to cope with their unique backgrounds.
The revelation of her knowing the protagonist due to putting death into the him after being disregarded as just a malfunction is just awful fucking writing. Kind of shitty premise you'd see in those generic anime where a supernatural girl appears suddenly one day only to then transfer into his school and violate his personal space.
All you gotta do is romancer her and then fill in the blanks in your head
It ain't that hard
I'll try doing that
I'll restar P4 and i will romance her
Maybe that will help me stop feeling so bad
Nah it's actually pretty easy to miss if you don't use a guide
On one event (I think rank 5) you have to tell her you're glad she's a girl. And then on rank 8 you've gotta protect her, and then you'll get the option to confess to her.
Good job, champ, you fucked up.
She has two lovers flags. In one of her earlier ranks (4 or 5?) she says that she wishes that she was born male. Respond by saying you're glad she's a girl.
Then at rank 8 or 9 the knife-wielding assailant will accost you. Choose to defend her. Bam. Girlfriend.
Man it's weird that people don't know you can romance Naoto
I bet someone out there just missed the flags and never realized, and then thought it was so the game can pair her together with Kanji
Well that wasn't out of the left field and oddly specific at all
You mean the animated cutscene where she falls on Kanji because she sucks at skiing? that's just shipbait.
Wait a second
If i romance Naoto then I'll be taking the girl my bro Kanji likes
That ain't right either
Here's what happens if you date Naoto.
>Kanji catches on
>Realizes he has no chance
>Probably wouldn't even want to risk it, just because you're his senpai
Here's what happens if you don't date Naoto.
>Kanji never gathers his nerves
>Naoto wouldn't be interested in the first place
>Kanji knows this
>Spends years kicking himself as nothing happens
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT FOR A FACT
she showed the international sign of 'I wanna bone you' during the ski cutscene by blushing
>not being interested in the fat girl
>"Hey kids, look at this cute scene with the characters you think should be a couple!"
fixed that for you
'it will never be' is your own personal opinion. I dont have a stake one way or the other, just saying
I can feel how far they were reaching in this picture
She was blushing because she fell on him. This is Naoto we're talking about here, she'd get embarrassed if you so much as shook her hand.
>ntring a large portion of the P4 fanbase.
wait, what. The main character and the girls aren't a canon couple in ANY of these games. So that you can choose, but they don't solidify anything so that people can argue over which fictional character is the best.
How is it NTR if none of it is actually canon. That doesn't make sense.
>Dojima found a wife fuck its NTR
So? Waifuism is (mostly) a joke over here, but it's pretty serious in Japan. That's why so many media that panders never actually reaches a conclusion, because there are fans that in pure spite, will never buy anything from that company again if they get an ending or pairing they don't like. So they never get an ending or pairing.
They're saying that Atlus will never make a P4 ship canon if it involves Yu or any of the romanceable girls because it fucks up the game for all the people who picked that girl as their waifu. And nips are crazy good at self insert. They'd be pissed.
It'd be fucking hilarious if Yu had a one night stand with Rise, I'd be all for that
I can't imagine too many people would flip out. It's not like she's unpopular.
But think of the levels of shitposting we would have if a couple was confirmed canon, and then magnify it for the Japanese fandom.
Shes not as popular as Chie or Naoto by far, let alone a majority.
and that doesnt matter regardless.
Even if they made Yu x Yosuke, or Yu x Yu, canon, people would flip.
Its an ambigious harem for a reason, closest we;re ever going to get the Golden anime.
>Finally get PQ in the mail
>Put all my Tarot cards together
>2 devil cards with no Temperance
You had one job, Atlus.
The only people who get effected by these are the fans
>not being able to make a canon pairing
That's only an issue if they ever wanted to make a canon pairing in the first place
playing P:Q between work breaks. he soundtrack is amazing, barely tickled the first dungeon but already loving it. Need to finish P4 before I play as him.
>stupid pointless waifu wars
You mean a constant discussion and renewal of interest in the franchise?
>not being able to make a canon pair
The writers probably have some. They'll just never write them in.
I want to know how adding in a romance sideplot or canon romance would improve the narrative at all, for P3 or P4.
The way they have romances set up, by making them have nothing to do with the narrative and thus not forcing you into one for plot's sake, already works fine for the plot of each game.
Honestly, Marie (being an aspect of Izanami and, eventually, the dominant aspect) did kind of fit the theme of the story as a romance.
It's just that her character is quite divisive.
Something being obscure doesn't mean it doesn't attract crazies.
Sure, Harry Potter was/is far bigger, but Persona 4 is far better set up to attract the kind of person that would set ATLUS HQ on fire because Yu didn't canonically fuck one girl or another.
Well, in the games it makes sense because it's more fun to have other options, but in all the sequels/spin offs there is no reason why a character like aigis/yukari or anyone else couldn't be improved if they could allude to them having been a couple. At least thats my opinion, I could be wrong after all
Atlus just doesn't give enough of a fuck about the romances to needlessly antagonize a segment of the fanbase.
Though they do like to poke at the shippers, as evidenced by the ski trip in Golden.
For all that some of the fans talk about the romances, they are a tiny part of the games. Golden did add several new scenes, but even that is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else.
Her character in itself is divisive, but so is the way she is grafted onto Vanilla's plot.
I see what you mean about how since she's Izanami you could get some kind of poetic persona soulmate shit going on but Marie struggles to be comfortable in the main narrative at all.
I do see what you mean about the spinoffs
P3 and P4 have main characters that are specifically designed for the player to self-insert on, and then gives them a selection of anime girls to make their girlfriend.
I honestly don't care that much. I'd be kind of put out if my favourite girl wasn't picked, but I wouldn't break all my discs and swear to never buy another ATLUS game either.
And there are people who would.
She isn't. Her total views on pixiv is 6.5 million compared to Naoto's 11.9 and Chie's 11.3 million. Hell, she loses to Yukiko who sits at 7.2. Yu, who didn't even have a canon name for a while, has 8.9. By the way, Yosuke has 19.8 and Adachi 11.9.
Why lose 8% of your revenue when you could lose 0% of your revenue
I'm with you on that. When the romance ties into the plot, it's one thing. I'm okay with a Tales of game having a canon romance because the protagonist is a fully fleshed out character and the romance likely ties into the plot. A canon romance with a mostly-blank slate character when there's no plot to go with it doesn't make the story any better.
Old Naoto, Kanji, Fuuka, Margaret, Theo are kill.
New Kanji is good.
New Fuuka is okay.
New Naoto doesn't know what emotions are.
New Margaret and Theo are bad.
The compression makes Chie's screeching worse.
Fujoshi are strong, man.
Hot damn, Rise BTFO
>New Naoto doesn't know what emotions are.
Naoto as a character doesn't know what emotions are, so that's fine.
>Akihiko... Why must you always be so...
She sounds upset.
I'm not gay or female but Yosuke is the broest of bros, favorite character
PQ is quite fun, its like playing Etrian Odyssey but instead of classes there are just a bunch of spells I can play with. I just beat the first FOE at lvl 6, do all FOE's give new persona though?
>Insecure as fuck
Biggest bro? Yeah nah, ae.
>Insecure as fuck
anime-lesbian-senpai crushes are pure
Okay, thanks. I needed a good laugh.
>Still at school
>Naoto whips out her gun
Christ Naoto. Carrying a revolver to school? That's kinda crazy.
Except that's not true. There are fake weapons you can equip and they do pitiful damage. Just like how SEES used real weapons.
Naoto's just crazy. Damn, does she keep that SMG and shotgun under there too?
Naoto is kinda crazy.
One day she will snap and shoot up the school.
She keeps them in her boob-hammerspace. She has a lot of other things in there, too.
Are you insane? Would you, under any circumstances ever, trust Teddie to be within 20 meters of a gun?
She did decide to be a big boy detective as a teenager and actually stuck with it and then became a lifestyle crossdresser.
Girl isn't right. She probably has nightmares about murdered corpses and shit.
Well, girls have a lot more hiding spaces than men
Those voice clips were from some other game witht he same VA.
It they already did put his romance in anyway, you hug him and pat his head at the end, "partner"
Yeah, because Aigis and Mitsuru are much more believable characters right?
So have I, and the lines are there.
Either some fujoshi abducted Lowenthal, forced him to record these lines, had the lines put on the ISO, and then uploaded it to the internet and I just have a bootleg fujoshi copy or you're wrong.
In the previous game, a you could equip dogs with knives and the police sold military grade weapons to a blue-haired high schooler because "he had a hunch something was up."
Ther'es also several robot girls and gods who turn televisions into the world inside the human mind.
And after all this, the stumbling block for your suspension of disbelief isn't that a 16 year old girl is a detective, it's that she carries a weapon with her?
>the shipping would be fucking insane
It already is. There's two tags for the pairing. One has 16.7 million views and another 10.9. There are a lot of doujins too. Probably the most.
>Just look at naruto and the shitstorm that happened when naruto married hinata
wasn't that kinda a given that it would happen
I don't remember there being any other pairings in that trash
>I don't know about the first two
Did you even play P4?
>his reaction to kanji's dungeon
>the school campout
In Arena, he's scared to against Kanji because of the title he was given. Yosuke's homophobic as fuck.
not to plenty of people here, a lot of girls self insert into sakura and when it was leaked naruto hooked up with hinata, people fucking flipped
and sakura marries sasuke
You beat the first FOE at 6? what are you playing on? I'm playing on Risky and unless I want to be there for a year beating the first FOE is pretty damn hard at lv 7. Maybe it's because I switched from Naota and Teddy to Kanji and Donut girl/man due to them being pretty much useless besides mudo.
What's a good set up for FOE? I feel pretty weak, and I'm at the third floor. If it wasn't for my mudo set up battles would take a shit ton longer.
Use them on the front line with Chie to be Rei Zen the Steaks
What in the fuck am I reading? She has natural immunities to the most used spells in the game, and her stats are fucking hilariously high. She's broken as FUCK. Objectively the best character in the game.
See, I can't even call it constant when it happens a couple of times over the course of a year. And when I regularly see friends say way worse things about each other all the time.
My team is MC, Mitsuru, Yukari, Akihiko, and Shinji
She has very good stats but her base use is all light and dark spells, and until 16 you don't get a spell that's not instadeath. She's good but I was more meaning she seems useless for taking on the card FOE, since it's unaffected by those spells. I could set her up with a persona that does magic but Yukiko also has pretty high magic.
I just need a clue on how to take on this FOE since it really doesn't seem to have a weakness to anything and I deal very minimal damage to it.
He does this to Chie, Naoto, and Teddie too.
It's banter. He riles people up. It's his thing.
And then he gives Kanji twenty bucks to go buy topsicles with for himself and Teddie.
I do it, but it's not funny doing it when you know that person doesn't like it and is sensible about it
I'll tease them and call them fags, but if they're actually sensible about their sexuality I'll definitely bite my tounge
I'm even separating this from whether or not someone likes Yosuke. I just can't see how anything he says could get someone so riled up.
I mean, they're all friends and a friend should be the type of person you can say insulting things back and forth to and laugh it off. Yosuke makes a few quips which are more like gentle ribbing and he usually gets it in return.
>that feel when facing your first FOE just to see how fucking hard they are
Teddie is dense as a brick, and when he does things to Chie he gets kicked in the dick
It's not the question, it's the
"Hey, do you like Teddie? Because, you know...."
Kanji isn't gay, he just wants to be accepted, and when he says that he puts Yosuke back in his place
A bit late, but the guy who beat the FOE here. I'm playing on hard, not risky. Some tips would be the obvious, use buffs. Also though, poisma is fucking strong, it dealt 130 damage a turn, other than that, put debuffs onto the FOE, and don't be afraid to just leave your front row defending while your back row launches ranged attacks. This advice doesn't really apply to all FOE obviously, but basically focus on staying alive, then on doing damage. Have sub-persona with a lot of health and maybe endure for your front row. Also abuse the infinite usage health item.
>Teddie is dense as a brick, and when he does things to Chie he gets kicked in the dick
Yeah, but he's still doing it. And he does it to Kanji to, because that's what he does with everyone who isn't Rise or Yukiko. So how come when he teases Kanji about his insecurities it's because Yosuke is a vile hater of the gays?
I distinctly remember that if you took Yosuke and Kanji down to the dungeon with you the day that you do his social link, and Kanjis down in the dumps about his problems, yosuke tells kanji that he's always there for him
they all love eachother anon, calm down
>So how come when he teases Kanji about his insecurities it's because Yosuke is a vile hater of the gays?
It doesn't, it makes him a cunt. It's things like the camping trip that show his homophobia
Kanji runs out of the tent during the campout because of Yosuke says and claims it's not his fault.
During the babe hunt event he tells him that guys don't count.
If friends do that, why doesn't he joke with Yu? After the fireworks, with no provocation, he responds to Chie's comment with "Because you got to stuff your face right?"
>when he does things to Chie he gets kicked in the dick
You give her skill cards, and she can be used as a support or a healer if you want, or can cast ANY magic. She's so god damned fast, with no weaknesses. High Magic, highest Speed among all Magic users, and high Luck as well. You can get a skill card for even higher hama/mudo chance. If you give her Bufu/Agi/Zio/Garu cards she has more accuracy and damage than every other magic user. She's literally too versatile. Do you not have any skill cards?
He does it a lot and it reaches the point oif annoyance
If he'd do it once and then shut up he'd pass, but doing it over and over is just idiotic
I'm saying that Kanji is sensible about what they saw in his dungeon, he's all about wanting to be accepted and not about liking dudes
Yosuke knows this, but he doesn't care that he might not react in a positive matterz he still pushes his luck
He got pushed with Yu for being a perv in the camp out
So he doesn't hate gay people in particular because he's just an all-round cunt but he is also a homophobe?
You should just stop at he's an all-round cunt, because that'd be correct. He makes friends by ribbing, but when push comes to shove he's generally reliable and responsible.
>If friends do that, why doesn't he joke with Yu?
Probably because Yu is a silent protagonist and it's hard to mock someone with no speech. But you can get Yosuke to yell at you and call you crazy and stuff with the proper dialogue choices.
He's probably talking about the Trial of the Dragon scene. Some people say Chie kicked him while other's say Yosuke ran into a desk. I think the latter as you can even sort of hear it.
>want to buy Q
>WoW raids open next week
>Have too many other single player games I'm playing through right now
There are simply not enough hours in the day
>So he doesn't hate gay people in particular because he's just an all-round cunt but he is also a homophobe?
What the fuck are you even trying to say? Phrase that better for me mate.
How is this hard? It's just his way of showing affection. The fact that he can make the jokes at all shows he's close with them, no matter how lame the jokes are. People do this all the time, it's not just a Yosuke thing.
It does seem sort of odd. I mean, there is a difference between how you feel about a character, alternate character interpretation, and just sort of making up a characterization.
It's been a while, hasn't it?
He was pushed in by Yukiko, not Chie. >>87427332
He's not silent in Arena. Where are the jokes there?
He did run into the desk. It was because of AtlusUSA's translation that made it seem like he was kicked. In Golden when he's invited to the movies in August, he says so.
There's a point when Kanji is pissed off that he just leaves. A friend would at least know when to stop, but Yosuke doesn't. A number of times, Kanji tells him that he isn't like that and to shut up, but he doesn't listen.
This really feels like people have invented this entirely new character in their head and are just sort of applying it to the game and just getting angry over it.
I got mine, and they're good quality, but too bad I got the wrong cards.
This doesn't change the fact that Yosuke banters the way he does because that's how he makes friends, and his bantering never causes any kind of serious drama within the group. The worst is Kanji threatening to beat his ass in about the Teddie thing and a couple sentences later they're fine again and the situation is resolved.
It's not a big deal.
I'm not sure where you're going with this? Are you just trying to say that Yosuke is an asshole with a foot in his mouth? No shit, but he isn't saying this shit for the purpose of inflicting emotional damage.
And yet every time he's around Kanji, Chie, or Teddie, he's running his mouth. Yu,Yukiko, and Rise don't get any flak from him. If they are friends, why no jokes for them? The only one who even jokes with him is Yukiko.
The salt is real
Their tears are delicious
>This really feels like people have invented this entirely new character in their head and are just sort of applying it to the game and just getting angry over it.
It does indeed. Captain Ressentiment was even his nicknamed in Arena. Claiming otherwise would be a disrespect to the writers for deriving that name from nothing and not the character.
I'm not even sure what anyone is truly arguing anymore, but I think something crazy is happening.
>Using the Arena titles as proof
Are you fucking retarded? Dude, the titles in Arena are basically Yosuke's usual schtick cranked up to 11, they're meant to piss off the characters when they hear them.
The line is "Like late summer they slowly fade away" The they referring to days in the line before it.
I blame Yuri. His Yosuke sounds really smug and his jokes came off as pretentious. Junpei joked with Yukari and Akihiko in the same way, but it actually felt like they were joking.
Brown and Mark are both the master race of bros.
It is one of the best parts of EO. It's great knowing you mapped it yourself.
At first I was a little put off by the way it highlights walls on your map when you can see them, but it just simplifies something you can already see, so I don't mind.
I'm not even kidding. I just sat down for a minute and zonked out for 45 minutes. I feel like this 6 day weekend is going to ruin my academic aptitude
ps: a guard said that, not snake
>You're really gonna scarf down protein until you're fighting a bear with your bare hands?
Poor Shinji, he'll never know how strong Akihiko got
>I don't know what we're fighting about
Does equipping sub persona with resist nullify weaknesses?
God dammit, all this PQ talk is making me want to buy a 3DS, but im not spending all that money plus shipping to my country for just one game
I bet this will happen with DAN too, im not getting a vita just for a rhythm game.
In persona Q is it first name first and last name last, or last name first and first name last?
If I name my character Yu Narukami (I know that's not possible) will the characters address him as Yu or Narukami?
Okay. So I still can't do this. I'm level 8 but Poisma just doesn't hit often enough, even with monocle (Maybe I should switch characters, I'm making protagonist do it), and there's just not enough damage from really anyone in my party, I can get it down to half health, but the gist of it is that I run out of sp by that point and can't try to Poison it/provoke anymore.
Any other tips? I feel like I'm doing something incredibly wrong, or maybe Risky is gives FOE higher health than hard?
Set up is : Protag, Chie, Kanji
>investigation scrubs first playthrough
Theres your problem m8
Zen and rei are stupid good use them
Better than Naoto?
I used my recarm on her since I'm guessing she gets shit all for spells. Or should I 2 man front and 3 back with Chie or Kanji getting replaced? I did use them for a bit but it didn't really seem like they were that strong.
Theo: This is not reality. Time and space are not fixed... It might be more correct to say they hold no meaning. It most likely exists someplace much "deeper" than the Velvet Room.
Elizabeth: It's something like Tartarus.
Neat, so I can leave go heal up and come back to get 100% floor completion? I just want to make sure because this is the first EO game i've played. Plus i'm on hard mode and I really need to heal but if it resets everything and I get fucked I don't want to do it.
>want to play persona q
>buy premium edition and 3DS XL
>Second floor, everything is easy, have the best gear currently available to me
>Third floor, find a beetle as a regular enemy that outspeeds my entire party, attacks twice a turn, and ends up wiping me, and I tried hard to beat it
Did I just go the wrong way or is this game's balance that weird
It's a complete and utter shithole there, too. It's already the end of November and it still feels like summer.
Yeah you guys are either from Manilla or the Visayas, usually Cebu.
Sounds awful. The weather where I'm at changes too much and it triggers my psoriasis bad.
Why pick the worst team?
Rei (and to an extension her body guard) are a lot cuter than anticipated. Her VA is cute and her constant eating is surprisingly not annoying.
did you guys ever hear that the latest Poppenhaim doujin got scanned
The 3DS case is nice, but the rest of the LE is crap.
Atlus USA really needs to step it up on the LEs. They're getting BTFO by XSEED
Holy shit I just pressed the Help button as well and got stuck there for almost 30 minutes until I came to this thread and searched.
Whatever hurts you the most.