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/smtg/ - Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

Old thread:>>86150219
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Let's all love Mirai and send those fuckers who want to fuck her in exile.
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Your daily reminder that no other alignment has yet or ever will make a sound argument against law being the superior philosophy.
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>I side with law
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Wish I had the balls to do that full luck run in KMT. I spent my points on STR and INT, is that good enough? Once those are maxed (so at Lv. 10), VIT and SPD next. There aren't any incenses in this game, right?
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>>86339970
>universal lobotomization
>in any way, shape or form good
Fuck you, the monkey did the right thing by killing herself.
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>>86339667
Not much to complain anymore. OP, you did a good job. /smtg/ is now one of the best mannered generals. I mean look at those threads who are over bump limit on page 10. New /lolg/ for example has already 347 posts while the old one is still shitting this board up. Fucking disgusting.
Perfect would be if we could wait until the thread is at the last row of the catalog before we make a new one because our old one will still be there for some time, but yeah I'm already content and shouldn't expect too much.
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>>86340339
>metaposting
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>>86340419
>complaining about people who don't want to live in a pile of shit
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>>86340228
Epic monkey maymay, bro!!

*upvotes*
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>>86340120

>fedora
>law

Sure.
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>>86340508

The people who bitch about this shit are literally the worst shit on this entire board.
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>>86340339
What if we just made it so that nobody ever created new threads anymore?
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>>86340587
Are you that 13 year old again? Just fuck off already. You do realize that that would've been my only metapost right?
It's not like it would've started any discussion nor was did I in any way intend to.
The worst thing about you is that you're the only one who complains about metaposting being the whole problem that makes everything go to shit while you yourself are metametaposting. You do realize the hypocrisy and stupidity behind this, right?
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>>86340657
Then we'd be the White. No more Law vs. Chaos vs. Neutral bullshit if nothing exists.
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I can fight demons with not-Astro Boy? Sweet.

Also, do 'resist x element' attributes stack? I'm set up to make one of these with two resist phys attributes, which may be very helpful with fighting that jaguar bastard.
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>>86340691
Should've proofread but fuck it, that little shit ain't worth it.
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>>86340771
aaaand I just answered the second question myself
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>>86340691

Lol. We're not playing the "1 up someones insult to hope getting the first hard hit in makes you win" game. People like you bitching about shit like this is the problem. You kill discussions, and you're why this board is shit. You're like those people who go to groups that identify as peaceful to start fights, then complain when they defend them-self calling it hypocrisy since defending is a form of fighting, and thus not peaceful. You always crop up, and you're cancer every time.
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>>86340339
SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>86340992
Make him, lawboi.
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>>86341005
Neutral. I'm neutral.
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>>86340981
Please tell me the difference between my metaposting and yours.
Protip: You can't.
Now if you would stop metaposting, you know that shit you hate so much, this discussion would end and everyone could post about them games. Somehow it seems to me you don't want that.
Also post more images, faggots.
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>>86341104
No.
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>>86341104

Here. I'll tell you.

Yours is cancer.

Mine is letting you know that.
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>>86340657
We could just post in the archives forever
That would mean we'd only ever see one "I want to fuck Mirai" post ever again though and I'm not sure if I'm ready for that
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>>86341104
>>86340981
>>86340691
>>86340508
>>86340419
>>86340587
>>86340339
>>86340419
>complains how metaposting kills the General
>Continues to metapost
AhahahHAHAHAHA
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>>86341212
Knew that already but who's gonna stop me?

>>86341231
Don't quote me faggot. I have nothing against metaposting.
Also, are you aware of what you're doing right now?
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>>86341231
I just want to see the world burn.
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>>86341231

I never said metaposting kills the general. I said thattheir particular metapost was saying something stupid.
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Despite some mistakes he made in his life >>86341532 was a good anon. Let's pray for his soul after the divine judgment.
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>>86341653
I only pray that you are purged when the World of STR finally arrives.
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>>86341523
>I never said metaposting kills the general.
Let me guess you are this guy >>86340981?

Wait, now that everyone has calmed down. Why is no one talking about them games? Guise?
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>>86341810
The White were right.
Prove me wrong.
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>>86341854
I don't want to and I can't.
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Just checked my alignment after visiting Yuriko and having Walter leave, and now I'm Neutral. Should I try to maintain?
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>>86342114
Depends, are you neutral or chaos?
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>>86342114
Why don't you just answer everything like you would, if this is your first playthrough?
If it isn't why didn't you already decide what you're going for in this one?
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>>86342235
not everyone prefers self-inserting
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>>86342235
I have been, but I somehow ended up Law for a while due to sidequests.

>>86342178
Chaos, but I'm planning on doing both Neutral and Chaos routes regardless. Just not sure of which to do first.
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>>86342114
Neutral is shit but still better than either of Law, Chaos or White.
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>>86342340
Do neutral first

Chaos has NG+ quests
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>>86342328
Not everyone prefers vanilla ice cream.
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Pixie is love.
Pixie is life.
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I feel like I'm the only person who purposely chose the white ending
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>>86342396
Neutral it is, then. I'm going to see Fujiwara now, how far away am I from an alignment lock and how will I know if I managed to stay Neutral for the lock?
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>>86342478
I did too. I think it's the best ending for a while since it's completely different.
Fucking love Burroughs in the last scene.
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>>86342453
mirai anon is love
mirai anon is life
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>>86342515
If you go into Monochrome Forest, beat the crap out of the White, and Steven is the first person you find after, then you're Neutral.
If Walter, then Chaos.
If Jonathan, then Law.

Good luck.
There's one Cynical Guy NPC in one of the HA buildings (don't know which one) that looks at you, and tells you whether you're polite (Law), rude (Chaos) or "hard to get a handle on" (Neutral). Just a way to check your current alignment.
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Where can I buy a Jack Frost plushy hos?
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>>86344730
>Wanting regular Jack Frost
>Not the King himself
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I convinced a friend to play Nocturne, he's currently "stuck" at the troll guarding Loki's room.
Don't you guys have some really good general tips i can hand him?
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>>86344976

Take this opportunity to fucking tell him about Buffs and Debuffs.
Ho-lee shit if, he's stuck at the troll he'll get anally ravaged by Matador soon after.
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>>86344412
Yup, the Cynical Man is how I found out that I'd shifted from Law to Neutral actually.

Tangentially related: god damn the Midtown theme is groovy.
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>>86344885
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>>86345048
>he'll get anally ravaged by Matador soon after
Like every single player new to the game?

But yeah, i'll make sure to explain buffs to him, thanks. Anything else?
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>>86345209
You absolutely must tell this small little fact that may help later on. Tell him that ____________git gud________
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>>86345556
Fuck, i almost forgot that.
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>>86345770
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>>86345982
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>SMTIV's guest party member system

they should've had a possession ailment like in persona 2 that adds a guest Poltergeist that has the moveset of any character it's possessing. the poltergeist will randomly attack enemies with super low level spells, prioritizing any enemies that will absorb/null them if it knows of a possibility to do so. it's also weak to every element. it exists purely to make the enemy smirk.

oh well, maybe in SMTV?
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>>86344976
Spam Marin Karin, fucker is weak to Mind.
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>>86342453
She is pretty cute.
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>>86344976
>stuck at troll
I didn't think that was possible.
And tell him to use ailments on him.
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>>86346218
that sounds like a really roundabout way to make diet charm
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>>86346453
Pixie true Nocturne heroine.
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>>86346116
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>>86346584
Reasons a shit.
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>>86344976
Get Jack Frost, stick the void Ice magatama on DF, spam buffs and debuffs, watch half your party die because you were dumb and brought a Lilim to the fight, still win because your DF had around 12+ strength at that point of the game and punched the fucker to death. All of that on Hard mode.
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>>86344403
Pls stop embarrassing yourself, Mirai anon.
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I'm now at a point in SMT IV where talking to demons and exchanging things with them actually yields far more EXP than simply killing them.
Based Talk EXP Boosters.
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Are you a bad enough dude to beat this challenge, /smtg/?
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>>86344976
>a friend
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>>86347194
After I finish my Hard run, SJ and and DDS1+2 on Hard.
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Fiends best demon race
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>>86347194
I'm not a masochist and I haven't beat nocturne yet so nope
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>>86347392
Same.
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>>86344976
Buffs, debuffs, fusions, gid gud.
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>>86347392
>Not fairy master race
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>>86347670
Dude, fairies are cool and all, but they're weak and useless after a while. Fiends last forever with their god tier skills
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>>86347392
>>86347506
>>86347670
>not femme
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>>86347979
Eh, the biggest reason why fiends are good is that they have bullshit resistances on top of a mostly empty skillset so you can stick whatever the hell you want on them.
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>>86340523
SJW pls
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Just wrapped up Deadalus completely. Am I doing good so far?
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>tfw finally acquired all 4 demons necessary to fuse Huang Long in SMT IV
And now for the extremely long wait 'til lvl 78.
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God SMT IV's environments look like shit compared to Nocturne. They really seem like they've lost a lot of the visual flair in their art style
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>>86347194
I'm not sure this is possible without significant grinding
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>>86349684
world of STR is always the right choice anon
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>>86350538
That's what the average nuzlocke run boils down to: lots and lots of grinding.
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>>86347194
Might as well say "solo run", geez. Pokemon doesn't have HamaMudo to worry about.
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What do toy prefer, Nocturnes 3D environment or the first person grid style movement?
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>>86351049
First person.
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>>86347194
Wait, does actual Nuzlocke have restrictions against fusion, evolution and healing services?
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Update on skill change run.

Dance of the Dead and the NG+ exclusive Slay the Berserker are brick walls to this runs so far.
Experience of the Afterlife here I come.
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>>86351049
3D, first person is dated as fuck
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>>86351282
No, but this is an atlus game you got to make it extra hard.
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>>86351049
First person
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>>86351049
First person exploration, 3D battles.
Just like P1P but i'm the only one that liked that game
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>KMT, SMT 1&2 and P1 will never be updated to not play like ass
Seriously Atlus, don't make shit like Persona Q and EO Untold 3432 but instead put those guys to work on a proper remake for those games.

All you need to do is update the environments and use EO combat and you're done
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>>86351926
the only problem with P1P was how underwhelming the battles were, since the sprites were so small compared to the battlefield.

P2 had bigger sprites, but I feel like if they were about 30-50% bigger than even that it would be perfect for the perspective.
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IIIIIIINNNNDRAAAAAAA
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>>86353776
Y A S O - M A G A T S U H I
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>>86354051

MANITOUMANITOUMANITOUMANITOUMANITOU
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>>86352367
Just update P1 to use ISP/EPP combat, it's good enough.
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>>86351049
First person grid.
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So I bobrossfreak ever gonna do anything for Break Record?
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Which demon in nocturne has best voice in battle?
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>>86356883
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>>86356883

ARE YOU READY
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>>86347392
>not megami
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>>86356883
Daisojou
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Is there any way to learn skills in DeSu other than the skill cracks? Can I equip more than one of my characters with the same skill?
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>>86356883
twang
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>>86357894

No to both.
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>>86347392
>Not Night
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Someone had told me to keep the wiki open when playing DeSu so I could have an easy access to spells, demons and item lists, but it's tough to navigate through that since there's info about all SMT games in the same place, should I just use gamefaqs?
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>>86358646
>Items
There are no items in DeSU
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>>86359535
Looks like it, anyway how do I check out the "boosts" that carry on when I fuse demons?
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>>86351049
3D.
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>>86357039
No penis
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Fucking Leonard takes 20k Macca and around 7k MAG, some Life Stones and then dares to ask for emeralds and diamonds. I say no and he attacks me.
That bastard wouldn't even be worth a bottle of my piss. Fortunately I did save shortly before, else I wouldn't have given him that much.
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> Mfw David in SMT IV isn't immune to Hama.

Euheauheauuhahahahaueahuhaah.
AHAHAUHEUAHEAUHAHAHHAHUHEAUH
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>>86347392
fiends, fairy, night are all valid answers to like

personally some of my favorite demons are zealots and i like the concept of viles

honorable mention to the lady (earth mother) race
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>>86366458
I don't really hate any demon race.
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>just started dds
had some psn credit and i've been putting it off forever

i've hung around smtg enough, so i already have an idea of what to do, and don't need any pointers
BUT
are the purple egg things normal item boxes? what is the dds equivalent of the mystery boxes where i would want to wait until max solar noise to open?
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>>86368841
Yellow nodes are mystery boxes
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>>86368348
>hate
that's not really the issue at hand.
having preferences doesn't mean you hate the others.
it just means that you like some more.
so, you just like all demon races equally? uh, cool? good for you.
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>>86368974
ok.

also, this looks so much better than nocturne does on ps3.
nocturne has this weird ghosting blurry effect.
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>>86368348
>Mothposting

>>>/out/
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So I'm playing Megami Tensei and just made it to the Sky City. I'm really enjoying it, but do I need to go to Daedalus 8F every time I want to completely heal or fuse demons? It's getting really old trudging back there so often. The elevator helps at least a bit.
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Would anyone know what ランディヘイズ could mean?

At most I figured out the second part is Haze/Hayes, but the first I can only figure out as Randy. The skill itself inflicts charm. Also, it is a skill from If...
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I want to fuck Mirai
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>>86371702
It means randyhaze, dumbass
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>>86372067
I just wasn't sure since Randy is a name.
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>>86372435
OH GOD MY EYES
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>>86372435
He'd probably run into Mirai in Makai since she's a daddy's girl.
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>>86372435
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>86371986
I'm in love with Marisa!
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>>86372231
Man that was a joke, so I don't actually know. Randy can mean horny though, so a spell named randy haze that inflicts charm makes sense I guess.
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>>86372435
Anon, that's lewd
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>>86372640
At least have the decency of posting SMT Tohou pics.

Like that one artist who makes Tohou characters SMT.
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>>86372582
Yeah and he will punished by her caring father.
Also forgot to use // in my epic post.
What's happening here? Since when turned /smtg/ to a christian general? Not the first time NSFW gets posted. I even spoilered it for you, friends. You don't have to look at it.
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>>86372786
I don't have any baka.
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>>86373104
Failure as a human.
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>>86372786
There's an artist who makes Touhou characters SMT?
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>>86372786
Mazeran?
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>>86373486
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=692252
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>>86368974

actually those always contain the same item regardless
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>>86372708
Kinda hard to tell what's a joke over the internet.

Though I did forget Randy meant horny. So thanks for reminding me.
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Can anyone give me the SJ battle theme lyrics?

All i understand is DO HI DES VILARAS DO HAS
HAS DES VI HE HO SA HO HA E KA
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>>86376494
What else did you expect from a Jack Frost choir? HEE-HOO is all they know.
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So. Could Raidou confine the embryon?
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huh. dds is neato
i like the story focused business better than i thought i would

so, sorta obvious question... now that i have access mantras, i want to power through some of that top row for all the good devouring and hunting and atma point skills, right?
or... is that too awkward this early in the game? i want to get it over with, now seems good
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>>86379296
You won't have the money for it without heavy grinding.
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>>86379296
Well, personally speaking, there is no need to grind all that much in the beginning. It can't hurt to have most elemental skills on most chars but like >>86379534 said, you're not really swimming in money. Although, the first ones are dirt cheap so just go for them.

If you're just after the hunting skills, focus on your main phys character (preferably Serph if I remember correctly) and get AP Divide and Iron Stomach as fast as possible. Coupled with two characters that now every elemental skill to hit enemies weaknesses you rake in AP pretty fast.

Or, if you're emulating, go the dirty skrub method, take the highest fatal hunt skill you have and savescum.
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>>86351049
First person.
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>>86379736
Having Serph as the physical guy and Argilla+Gale as your Ma-dyne spammers is good enough late-game.
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>>86379296
Do you have asthma or something?
Do you write stuff after saying it out loud?

I bet you're not even gonna beat Beelzebub.
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>>86379963
Except hidden bosses, phys Serph alone carried me through pretty much the second half of the game. World of STR and all that, with a bit of agi I think, the others were just there to heal and buff Serph, or occasionally attack either bosses for more press turn icons, or normal enemies with phys repel. Then again, that's what hunt skills are for.
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Favorite demons go!
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>>86380197
Having 99 STR at level 30 is some hard-core shit, yo.
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>>86380317
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>>86380448
>Not having a full stat as fast as possible
To be honest, SMT4 was really boring with 200 Dex. Especially since demons deal around ~100-200 damage on weakpoints when the same Flynn attack on a non weakpoint deals 1500. They were just so useless for at least 3/4 of the game.
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>>86380651
>demon
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>>86380734
Multiple stat points per level systems where you're allowed to distribute them yourself are easy to break, especially once level isn't part of the damage formula anymore.
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>>86380814

My mistake.
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What if Jack Frost in Smash?
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>>86380814
If he isn't a demon why can I fuse him?
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>>86381105
You can fuse Angels too.
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Should I cough up $10 for P2EP?
Or should I just settle on Xenogears?
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