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>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

Old thread: >>85200792
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>not giving it a proper filename
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zio spells best spells
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I want to hug Mirai
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Nth for rainbows.
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>>85320757
>not zan
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>>85320579
>disappointing, since I didn't know what to expect.
Wow, another retard showed up. What a surprise.
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>>85320878
>mazanga
>sounds like a nigger tribe in africa
>mazionga
>sounds like canned laughter
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>>85321026
I thought it was mazanma
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>>85321082
>mazanga
sorry, I had a severe stroke there
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>>85321125
its ok anon, dont let me see you slipping again
mabufudyne is probably my favorite spell
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>>85321082
What has that to do with a dick? Did the gif of that anon turn you on?
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>>85321289
>2575x2250
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>>85321396
didn't it arouse you as well?
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>>85321396
maybe
>>85321403
>implying
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>>85321605
what's your weakness, anon?
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>>85321289
>Not DIe For Me!
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>>85321684
Do you die if you hit yes?
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>>85321662
fire
>>85321684
I meant out of the basic elemental spells
ragnarok is my favorite unique spell
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>>85321974
I don't remember. I think something stops you.
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Step the fuck up, faggots. Majority of the images posted aren't even /smtg/ related. I know OP (who is a faggot btw) provoked you with his image but come on, at least post some nice images.

>>85321684
Don't mind that faggot. It's objectively best spell and Arisu objectively best girl.
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my favorite physical skill is occult flash
>only get it from a late game, neutral path only demon

also, P.S.
light and dark means more about if said demon is either revered or antagonized in its native mythology than if it's mean or benevolent in practice.
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>>85322034
Maagionda
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>>85322198
I'm pretty sure it's just one guy.
Also, edit.
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>there will never be a quest/quest chain/part of the main storyline where you end up fighting Tezcatlipoca, Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, and Xipe Totec for the right to shape the destiny of the world in crisis and to unlock them for fusion later, referencing their role as creators and the four sons of Ometeotl

>muh aztec gods
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>>85323460
mexican pls
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I heard somewhere that luck affects Demon Negotiation? This true or what?
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>>85323528
>gringo

i'm not allowed to think aztec mythology is pretty cool?

tez and quetz have been reliable and useful demons in their own right, i can't really complain
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> Talking to Yuki Jyorou.
> What kind of insect would you be?
> Reply with "A Trilobite"
> "It is only natural that my beauty would make men stiff as a rock."

Lewd.
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>>85324034
was one of the options a cockroach?
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>>85323843
Depends on the game.
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>>85324428
SMT IV was why I asked.
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>>85321974
>>85322045
She gets mad at you for not literally dropping dead right there on the spot and then exactly the same thing happens as if you'd picked no. It was disappointing. That's the SNES version, anyway, don't know if it's different in other versions.
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>>85324519
Yes. No specific information to support the claim, but it seems that it has an effect on whether the demon gets mad or not with some of the answers.
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I want to fuck Mirai
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>>85324681
Same with PS. Pretty unfortunately actually. Don't forget that Arisu is very happy at first but Hero is a fucking asshole and doesn't keep his promise. Poor girl.

>>85322754
Nice.
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>>85325337
Why are little girls so cute?
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>>85325456
Because you're a pedo piece of shit
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>>85325217
I want to fuck you
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>>85325545
>projecting
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>>85325690
Yeah that's not cute.
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>>85325690
>those censors
>>85325762
suck a cock
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Do debuffs happen in an add/subtract or a complete removal?

i.e. let's say enemy is at +2 Tarukaja. I use Tarunda three times. Enemy uses Dekunda. Is he back at +2 or is he sitting at +0?
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>>85326009
+0
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This nigga is literally using Chaturbhuja and I haven't gone past +2 on myself or -2 on him or used any healing spell whatsoever.

I survived it this turn but shit son.
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>>85326797
you probably have some sort of resistance that he doesnt like
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>>85327009
Just defeated him so I guess it's fine now. But that was still some BS. I guess he still has a chance of using it, I barely survived that shit though even at +2 defense jeez
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>>85327317
IIRC he only used Chaturbhuja when you used Almighty skills and healing didn't count. I had no problems beating him and he never cast that spell.
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So time for Seth. I don't know what the fuss is about this Pain skill but surely it can't be more BS than Chaturbhuja
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>>85328345

EVIL...WAR...FURY...ACCEPT THE WORLDS WAYS...
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>You killed your friend
>btw i'm Lilith lol
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What are your top five SMT endings?
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Hey guys, just started playing Soul Hackers on my 3DS. A friend said you can change the difficulty to what it was in the Sega Saturn ver. of the game, and that the 3DS options are easier I don't see that option. Was he bullshitting me?
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>>85325549
Thank you, anon

>>85325690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc7Q8i33s9E
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>>85331167
touch the bottom of the screen after you get the GUMP
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>>85331128
Nocturne TDE
DeSu1 8th Day Edgelord
SMT2 Law
SJ Neuter
DeSu2 meritocracy
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>>85332315
Alright
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>>85331128
in no real order:

DDS2 (fuck you I liked it)
DeSu1 Nayoa route
SMT1 Neutral
TDE
SJ law
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>>85332751
>SJ law
If any of those deserved a "(fuck you I liked it)", it was that one.
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>>85332905
I like how conclusive it is. The other law endings just tend to pussyfoot around the issue of the longevity of the peace, but SJ's assures you that it'll remain forever. Or something. I agree more with neutral but I like the conclusiveness of SJ's law
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>>85333036
it doesn't make sense though

what's the point of humans existing if all they're going to do is mindlessly praise god forever
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>>85333614
That's what they were originally created to do though
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>>85333664
so basically god is so much of a self absorbed prick that he has to create an entire race just to praise him

and its not like god is perfect too
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>>85333664
Did you play SJ? They were created to live free and worship their natural paragons, the Gods. YHVH meddled with Mem Aleph's souls.
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>>85333664
Might as well make a billion loudspeakers if that's what you want. Fuck YHVH, Lucifer and company are dicks but at least they're not this fucking boring.
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>Just got Black Samurai armor in SMTIV

We Strange Journey now. Can anyone spoiler-free tell me whether or not the two are connected? Or is the design of the armor just a nod to SJ?
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>>85334275
I guess IV is after Strange Journey since Demonica's exist
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>>85334275
Black Samurai is Ryan after undergoing a sex-change operation due to trying to distance himself from the traumas he underwent in the Schwarzwelt
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>>85334275
The CDF took a lot of their tech from the Schwarzwelt teams

I guess at one point demonica designs went public
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>>85334716
I wonder, do they reference the Schwarzwelt in IV?
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>>85335030
Nope.
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>>85335030
No. The demonicas are all you get. Actually, Ashera does show up so maybe she has some oblique reference? I forget
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>>85334275
>>85335030
You do see a statue of Mem Aleph in the Ring of Gaea's HQ
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>tfw disappointed in how easy SMT4 is
>tfw it's still fun as fuck and I can't stop playing
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>>85323460
I want to embrace Hathor and never let her go.
;_;
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>>85335503
oh yeah shit I forgot about that one
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>>85335203

My favorite tits demon shows up? Fuck yeah.
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Chie is best waifu.
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>>85335895
Out. Now.
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>>85335786
Yeah but only in NG+ and only if you do the chaos route
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>>85335895
Like anon said, out now. This is Yukarifag territory, no Chiefags allowed.
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>>85335953

You just had to ruin it, didn't you. On the other hand, maybe SMTIV will be the first SMT I will actually bother to do NG+ on.
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>>85335895
Could Chie survive in a world of STR?
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>>85335895
good taste anon
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>>85335949
>Mfw Persona is best shin megami tensei game
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IF... WHEN
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>>85336140
She has the laughable confidence of all the pathetic Chaos heroes, so... yeah.
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>>85335895
That ain't Junpei.
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>>85336289
NEVER EVER
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>>85335895
That's not pixie.
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>>85336051
Chie is the only true choice of waifu. Yukari is just a whore.
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>>85336473
>you will never hang out with adachi
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>>85336473
>Chie's canon boyfriends: One confirmed, likely more
>Yukari's canon boyfriends: Zero

I mean, I guess it's okay some people like used goods. Different strokes, etc.
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>>85335953
>mfw just completed the chaos route on NG+ and already written over the progress of it

Man I don't want to go through chaos again.
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>SMT4 dub constantly remind me that persona Q won't have dual audio
>turn voice off completely

Atlus really should start ditching some demon design permanently or at least get Kaneko to redraw them so they don't look like it is scanned from a book from the 80s
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>>85336473
>>85336707

Fuck off you Persona faggots and your shit waifus too

mitsuru best waifu
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>>85336940
I'd love for Kaneko to refresh some of the old designs.
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>>85337201
I'd love Kaneko
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>>85337201
>mfw I like old loki compared to new loki
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>>85325824
/smtg/ why do you insist on using unrelated reaction images?
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>>85337557
thanks friend
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>>85337201

These old drawings just sticks out like a sore thumb.
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>>85337659
That was new for SMTIV though
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>>85337659
goddamn that face is so bad
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>>85337659
I'll tell you what sticks out like a sore thumb, this bloody thing.
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>>85337898
agreed, fuck him
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>>85337898
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>>85338084
this nigga a car

beep beep nigga
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>>85338084
this one pisses me off so badly, why the fuck doesnt he have another wheel, how does this fucker move around, hes horrible off balance
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>>85337396

It is just a purple dude in loin cloth wearing a cape. He looks likes a dragon ball alien villain who would act high and mighty then get his ass kicked within seconds
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>>85338306
>He looks likes a dragon ball alien villain who would act high and mighty then get his ass kicked within seconds
thats why I like him
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>>85338267
>how does this fucker move around
I think I've got it
The wheel is on the ground, and he sorta drags himself along with the big arm
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>>85337717

shit you are right. They could at least redraw it on a computer.
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>>85338520
thats dumb, but more than likely true
>>85338660
its so bad, did anyone think to say no to this shit?
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Do you like the special edition, european friends?
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>>85338267
He's chaos incarnate, the laws of physics mean nothing to Sanat
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>>85338084
Look at this guy, he's also a guest design but he doesn't look like he's from a different franchise.
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>>85338997
>>85339048
did they tell the guests to draw however the fuck they wanted?
if anything they shouldve done their take on kanekos style
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>>85339048
it look like a fucking onion
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Best Ishtar.
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>>85340195
Nice lucifer with boobs, faggot.
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I have $3.93 on my 3DS, what DLC should I get for IV?
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Alright /smtg/, I'm at Infernal Camp Ichigaya about to get the Nothingness ending. I want to have a sort of last hurrah before I stop playing for a long time, since this will be my third cycle. I intend to play on Master difficulty and get the Neutral End next time but had considered reincarnating with nothing aside from the compendium.

Any thoughts on what I should bring with me into my last session?
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>>85340517
Ancient of Days or Sanat DLC.
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>>85340517
Clipped wings
>>85340536
Demoneeho
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>>85340195
>female
>visible nipples

In my SMT?
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>>85340903
Giten, Yo.
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>>85340536
>Master difficulty
There's such a thing? Oh man is it NG+ only?
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>>85340903
Giten is on a whole new level.
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>>85340903
Giten was pretty graphic
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>>85340710
Both Clipped Wing's?
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>>85340710
Have the small bastard at level 90. I want the game to be a challenge at the start again, should have specified that.
>>85341080
Yeah, you only get it when you beat the game the first time.
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>>85337270
Kaneko loves you too.
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>>85340536
>Any thoughts on what I should bring with me into my last session?
Fuse an angel and take it with you, and level it up all throughout the game until it becomes a Cherub.
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ChIAKI BEST
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>>85341480
wtf nigga
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>>85341480
That's so stupid
I laughed anyway
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>>85341480
kaz is like gravity, he makes the panties drop

>we'll never enter the velvet room or figure out the ritual to summon the demon painter
>ever
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>>85341503
I bring things with me by putting them in Streetpass before I reincarnate, right?
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>>85341480
>kaneko is swimming in arioch
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>>85342176
I dunno. That's just something you could do upon starting the game.
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>>85342268
oh, yeah

hurr
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test
>test
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>>85342268
>>85341503
>>85340710
Alright new plan. I'll blow all my money filling out the compendium, sell off everything I have and reincarnate without anything but the compendium. First thing I'll do in the new cycle is fuse an Angel, and I'll try to keep her with me the whole game until she becomes a cherub. Sound good?
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>>85342873
If you're going neutral, get a neutral demon.
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>>85342873
get a slime.
let him become your new best friend.
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>>85342990
I'll do that too, anon.
>>85343023
What purpose would that serve?
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>>85343112
The slime should always be in your party.
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>>85343257
But why?
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>>85343257
>slime
why?
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>>85343415
because is a slime
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>>85343763
No thanks. I will get the angel though.
Alright, I'm gonna do it. Wish me luck /smtg/?
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> Doing my best to fill out my compendium as I play through SMT IV.
> Money is tight.
> Level 30+ has a fucking special summon (i.e - expensive as fuck) every other level.

Kill me.
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>>85344426
> Doing my best to fill out my compendium as I play through SMT IV
>doing this on your first run
why? that's needless suffering, and i don't believe that it has a concrete reward since you can buy compendium discount apps anyway.
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>>85344620

I fucking LOVE demons.
It makes it worth it when I have a sexy fucking huge compendium to scroll through and the ability to get comfy in bed and read through all my new demon profiles at the end of a day.
I just fucking love demons.
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>>85344426
get any fusion accidents yet anon
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>>85345143

Yeah, one while making a Basilisk.
It turned into Dantalian.
Annoying as fuck because I needed a Basilisk for Medusa and had to shell out MORE cash to get my Basilisk.
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>>85345282
At least you get early access to both -karn spells
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>>85345091
that's fine, but it's not worth the trouble on your first run... unless say you have decent luck and won't have trouble recruiting as many demons as possible to binge fuse, as long as you're just interested in compendium entries over skill-sets
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>>85345710

I feel I should clarify, I'm not actively trying to max it out, but I'm making the effort to fuse every special fusion as I reach the level requirement as well as recruit every demon I can as I encounter them.
I use them until I get their demon whisper, register them and then fuse them with another demon at the same point, always for a new, unused demon.
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>>85346007
do u have autism
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Is Shadow Fiend the strongest Fiend?
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>>85347641
No, Demifiend is.
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>>85347116
Do you not?
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I wanna fug a gansta bitch
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post Demi
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>>85348735
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what ho would you hee
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So, I found my Walter edits folder again.
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>>85349084
Dorito walter or fuck you.
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>>85349271
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>>85349496
>Yep
>Mmhmm
>Yup
>Hoy
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>>85349569
I laughed harder than I should have.
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Is Nocturne emulation ever going to be fixed?
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>>85350869
No.
steal a ps2
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That faggot anon from the last thread lied to me, Gate isn't cancelled, the dev's just coding for other shit.
That's still basically the same thing as canceling it, but I'm hopeful yet.
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Okay. I think this is a reasonable first setup for now.
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>>85351151
>Gate on hiatus
>Devil Cortex dead
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It's not that God doesn't exist. It's that he doesn't care for the subhumans (or nowhere near as much, at any rate, as he cares for the humans). That's why he leaves their prayers unanswered. For humans and subhumans have always wanted exactly opposite things: We want war, death and destruction recurring eternally; they want what every childish self-indulgent female wants: "peace", "holidays", and a lot of sleep. We ask for no quarter, and give none; they are constantly begging for handouts and their "equal rights". Even if God wanted to grant everyone's wishes, he simply couldn't, and given that he has to pick a side, it's only natural that he would choose ours over the plebeians'; for as Sabatini points out somewhere, "the gods themselves are all aristocrats".
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>>85351218
I don't think you could be more wrong if you tried beadfag.
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>>85351218
>shijima

Fuck you beadman, i killed you with my fucking hands.
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>>85351218
Why is Yosuga heresy? Even the archangels back it
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>>85351218
Drop Ronaldo a step down
Also
>Shijima God Tier
>Musubi Shit Tier
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>>85351268
It's a bad feeling, my brother.
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>so sick of IV's negotiations that I paid 2.5k macca to get a demon
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>>85352509
That's not really that much

If you get negotiation apps they give YOU like 1k+ every time you scout them
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>>85351573
>Musubifags btfo
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>>85351218
>mastema fight on the 2nd tier
I'm sorry, what
I thought he was a joke boss.
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Do skills change when a demon transforms in IV? I've always fused before it happens but one of my demons is saying that they're going to transform soon
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>>85353636
He's a challenge quest boss on the Law Route.
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>>85353726
They just learn whatever skills the evolved demon would have at that level. You can keep whatever skills you had before if you want to.
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>>85353726
they keep the skills they had while learning the new demon's skills
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>Extra press turns all the time
>Dat sweet weakness exploiting damage
>Almighty damage out the ass when the end-game rolls around
Or
>Crits for days
>Pure, unadulterated damage
>Pierce is best skill

Pick your poison people!

http://strawpoll.me/2820925
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>>85354285
>http://strawpoll.me/2820925
in magic's favor there is always MAGMA AXIS, a functional poor man's freikugel.
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>>85354639
Is it affected by pierce?
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>>85354790
No
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>>85354790
why does it matter? if you'd ever consider being magic on tde, you'd be better off fusing other demons with pierce and having demi be support and vending machine
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>>85355027
>why does it matter?
I was only wondering, since it's affected by physical resistance, right?
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>>85355112
i honestly have no idea. other anon said no.

it just seems like an awesome skill to use if you have reasonable expectation on when it's worthwhile.
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>where the peace we know today

there's demons all over the place, the fuck are you talking about

>where anything can be changed if one has the will

but everything is fucking burning
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>>85356416

Its metaphorically true. As long as what you want is that exact thing.
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>>85337659
she has the face of a woman I used to work with
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>>85356416
You scared of the fire of knowledge neuter?
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>>85356416
when jonathan speaks from blasted tokyo in the beginning, he's referring to to the people who went to heaven and how their peace lasts forever

the people in ground zero are fucked
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>>85356416
>now realizing that alignmentfags are absurdly stupid
your journey has only just begun, son of man
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>>85357103
You don't even have the Freedom to walk, who are you to talk?
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I like the SMT designs but why do so many of the chracters drown have those weird milk/choclolate milk on lips look.
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>>85357427
It's Kaneko's style
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>>85357321
you seem to have trouble typing with a dick in your mouth.
can't see the keyboard through YHVH's pubes, I suspect.
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>>85357321
shut up and marry me
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>>85351218
Why is the order of Meritocracy where those who have worth are allowed to live and the order made to survive the Black Sun in the shit tier when they are Law?

Also
>Worshipping local lawful gods
>Local Law gods shit talk shit the Hebrew God forces, while the others join YHVH's forces.
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>>85356964

...Prometheus is neutral aligned.
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>>85351218
>Not even worth my time you false demon
For the normal demon ending.

>Not becoming a God and living in YHVH's human free world
For Megami Tensei II ending where you fight YHVH

>Become Gods who get to live in YHVH's new world as humanity is wiped out forever
For siding with YHVH

>Raging war on God
For Naoya/Kaido's route

>Trusting the human government to not fuck up
For Atsuro's
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>>85357713
So is Ouroburos Maia and Mem Aleph.

>>85351417
So Merkabah is subhuman since Lucifer says how God will never answer in the Chaos ending.
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>>85357713
Tell that to the four Heavenly Kings in DeSu when they side with God and the routes where you don't fight YHVH, side with the Mothers in SJ, and side with Neutral in IV.

Or Trumpeter and the Fiends in Nocturne or King Abaddon, with the exception of the final dungeon.
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>>85358365
>fiends
>giving fucks
>ever
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>>85358508
fiends do it for shits and giggles.
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>>85358508
Trumpeter is a servant of God, and is welcoming the age of Chaos in Nocturne by Demi-Fiend becoming a True Demon.

The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are also His servants, and got sealed in Infernal Tokyo by Belial for that reason.

And the despair of man summons them in the Infinite Abyss thanks to the system made by God called King Abaddon, alongside His other servants the Apollyon and Ophanim.
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