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/pg/ - Persona and Arena General

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-LATEST NEWS-
>P4DAN delayed until 2015, primarily worked on by P-Studio but Dingo still assisting
>NA release date for P4AU is September 30th, Japan was August 28th, Europe is November
>NA release date for PQ is November 25th, Japan was June 5th, Europe is November 28th

-GUIDES-
>General Persona Guide
http://pastebin.com/QPB3QuNm
>Persona 1 Guide
http://persona1.wikidot.com/start

-ARENA LINKS-
>Starter websites to learn:
http://www.brokentier.com/blogs/news/8362824-persona-4-arena-simple-character-guide
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?14134-P4A-Gameplay-Primer
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Persona_4:_Arena
http://mayonakamidnight.com/forum.php

-DOWNLOADS-
>Art, Guides, Music and more (Persona only, contains P4U/P4U2 story transcripts and sprite/texture/script rips)
http://pastebin.com/4e3U9j2S
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads (Persona and SMT)
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
http://www.mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona/SMT image collection
http://www.mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua

-MANGA SCANS-
http://personascans.tumblr.com/
http://www.mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457

-TRANSLATED MANGA SCANS-
http://pastebin.com/CX8q1FLp

-ARENA PLAYERS MATCHUP DOC-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6GZ6nt7cRyoWpR9_Bqyud8nCoDuLAcz-GcHyle71zQ/edit#gid=0

-P4U2 IMAGE/SOUND/MOVIE/PALETTE RIPS-
http://pastebin.com/CJSExUkj

-P4U2 NEW MUSIC TRACKS-
http://www.mediafire.com/download/l7at2vtrrb8l8t0/NEW+P+MUSIC+-+with+titles.rar

-P4U2 English Patch + DLC Unlock- [Retail Ver.]
https://mega.co.nz/#!TVpnwR6L!hsQ16zVErcuiz4pI8dJ8m7NasJpDKzDIzZbmHIL2pyY

-P1P Music Unfuck Pre-Patched Iso-
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wbz6rpqrqt0pfqb

-P4tGA OP/ED CD-
https://mega.co.nz/#!MpNBjKCQ!PLPWWvi7F7QY127aPPL90BjkMOYy1xisSlw96t7Abhw
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First for Yosuke's legs.
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GOTY
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>>81782535
My OTP
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Teddy is so pure.
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>>81782741
That's TeddIE to you
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>>81758273
RPGs: the world may never know, P1 had a PC port though
fightan: because BBCT did bad on PC and then they gave up even though P4U2 would undoubtedly sell like hotcakes
>>81769815
>persona commercial
wait did this really happen
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>Persona Q will never be ported to anything.
>Persona 4 Golden will never be on Ps3
Handhelds are so stupid.
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For negative thinking
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reminder that US version of P4U2 was confirmed to not have dual audio for story
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>>81783849
which is fucking stupid because the japanese version does
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>>81783774
get a vita TV
i think play-asia has them for 75$
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>>81783849
good
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>>81783849
>story
Who cares
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>>81783849
reminder that you are late as hell and the only thing we didn't know before release was that xbox has no lobby mode
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>>81784048
I'm not late, I was the one that said it originally. I'm just saying it was 100% confirmed.
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hug the naoz
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>>81783849

> dual audio

Who cares
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>>81784361

People who don't want a butchered dub.
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>>81784498
Yeah but you can still use jap voices when fighting
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>>81784361
I care.

Half the english voices suck, and with all the VA changes they just got even worse.
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>>81784361
people who don't like new Margaret, shitty Adachi, or atrocious new Igor
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>>81784361
I care.

Particularly because dual audio is present in the JPN version.
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>>81785290
I don't understand why they did it, don't they pay to have the Japanese battle voices anyways? Have they given a reason?
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>>81785610

It's almost certainly the price we pay for not being region locked.
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>>81785737
I'd like to imagine all the versions would be patched to be the same a few months after launch, but that would require effort on their part.
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The story sucks shit and you can still use your jap VAs in fights, I don't see what the problem is
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>>81786126
Jap Yukari is glorious, and I wish to hear more of it.
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>>81786126

People like to complain. It's fun.
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>>81786274
She really is. Ruff sounds too serious and always and comes off as bitchy. While Toyoguchi is playful and easygoing.
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>>81786371
What's the maids name?
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>>81786953
Misuru's maid
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>>81786669
Which is funny when you realize she played Revy as well
http://youtu.be/eoEiU2KAs9E?t=29s
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>>81786669
This is partially because Yukari's personality is different in the Japanese versions
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>>81787072
Besides that.

Wasn't she also in one of P3 Drama CDs?
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Do 3DS emulators exist yet? Do they play worth a shit? Don't really have funds to pick up a 3DS and Q.
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Just a friendly reminder that this will soon exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91r1STWZc9I
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>>81787182
I got a 3DS XL when it was on sale.
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>>81787182
No.
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>>81786953
Kikuno Saika
>>81787182
there's one that's nowhere near emulating commercial games yet, it'll be years
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>>81787294
>soon

In 2015
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>>81787320
May have to do that or borrow a friend's.
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>>81787182
just how theres no ps3 emu dont expect a 3ds one
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>>81787294
I know anon, it'll be FANTASTIC
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Jokes on you ps3 ultimax fans. You have to deal with that dumb lobby while we get straight to the fightan action! Haha! ;-;
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>>81787631
Yeah, but Xbox people are faggots.
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>>81787809
console people are faggots
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>>81788197
Your a faggots.
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>>81787135
Why did they change the way to pronounce Yukari from yu-cah-re, to yu-car-e, in the english version?
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>>81787631
Yeah, sucks to be us
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>>81787631
>have to
we can choose to play the player matches and ranked matches like you can, we just also have lobbies
also why haven't we made any player match lobbies in ultimax? easier than meeting up in tartarus and being like "hey i'm from /pg/"
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>>81788261
I know
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>>81782741
Are the marriage options random or do you chose?
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>>81788674
There is a quiz.
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>>81788424
we have, they've just never had more than 3 people in them
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OK anons, how many of us are xbox ultimaxers, because i don't want to be the only faggot who bought it
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Does anyone know if that one archive of the P5 FST actually has all the songs in it? Looking at youtube there's a lot like "snowflake" and "darkness" that are missing from it.
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Anyone have images of the P3 cast in their swimwear?
All I keep finding is FeMC and Yukari stuff.
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>>81790585
No, you can't have what you want
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>>81790585
yeah i dunno maybe
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>>81790780
But I need them.
Please?
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>>81790585
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>>81791138
I know you guys say you wanna bully fuuka, but if she was real, would you really?
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>>81791312
>3DPD

Defiantly not.
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>>81791312
Yes
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>>81791312
of course not i'm not a madman
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DevilSummoner, are you around?
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So, is Chidori saving Junepei basically the same as what that white-haired faggot did to Saki in the SMT movie? I need to know because it's my fetish.
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>>81791372
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>>81791767
Not really. Junpei didn't become a cute grill and then he and his man didn't fly away with all the fall and bloom and fall and bloom.
At least from I remember. It's been a while.
She just merged their personas and gave him her life. It's not the same as merging with someone. I think.
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>>81792458
A top-tier P3 pairing.
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>>81793028

Yeah, Aigis x No one is great.
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>>81793028
As if the taboos of human x robot wasn't enough, the female route added in the additional drama of female human x female robot.

Some bioware quality romance.
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>>81793409
calling something bioware quality already lost all meaning.
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>>81793409
>different genderxrobot
>complicated

Sounds like a personal problem.
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>>81793880
Who said it was complicated?
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>>81790868
>>81791138
Got the guys too?
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>>81794573
No, I'm not gay
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>>81794871
Are there ever gays here?
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>>81795072
did you even read last thread?
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>>81795072
there was in the last thread
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>>81795072
Gay people don't exist
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>>81795126
>>81795132
No, I'm not here as often as I could be.
Only when theres news or if I wonder what you all are talking about.
Too bad I missed it.
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>>81795072
There are, but they have bad taste.
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>>81795239
one guy wanted to be gay with his friend, that was about it
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>>81795268
Fuck you, dude
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I will be with you always
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>>81795531
case and point.
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>Rise never called Kanji "Moronji" during the P4GA
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>>81796073
if i kill myself will she as well, then? at least then i'd be doing the world a service
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>1st playthrough max social link guide
alright this seems doable
>defeat shadow chie on 4/17
>defeat shadow yukiko on 4/18
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>>81797912
Moronji was always a lame attempt at recreating the Stupei joke anyway.
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>>81798137
TaPs and medicine
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>>81798137
grind nigga grind
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>>81798423
Better than actually saying Bakanji
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>>81798584
They probably could have got away with it.
anyone playing P4 is at least weeb enough to know what baka means.
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>>81798137
If you're in golden, you can waste one more day in the dungeon, you get a few extra days

And don't mind those calling you shitters. The first dungeon is the most difficult by far
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>>81798928
That's stupid, bakanon.
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>>81798095
Goddesses can't die silly
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>>81799204
What are you on?
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>>81799204
>You will never a qt Goddess reincarnation that is madly in love with you.

Real life is such a drag.
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Would you entrust the worlds safety to my group?
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>>81798984
p4 vanilla, unfortunately. I wouldn't be complaining if it was P4G anyway, they made shadow yukiko vulnerable to ice in P4G - which means if you get mabufu on yu and chie it's a faceroll, because all-out attacks do stupid damage at that stage.

And yea, since my first run through P4 and playing SMTIV I've realized that Atlus cannot into difficulty curve.
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>>81799419
Not enough swimsuits
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>>81799419
Sure. switch out Akihiko for Mitsuru, and you've got the best party.
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>>81799419
>mostly naked sword man
>maid with a bow and arrow
>the bastard son of strong bad and TF2's spy
>gun toaster

no
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>>81799607
switch out Yukari for Mitsuru,
and you've got the best party
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>>81799607
>talking about best party
>when you let yukiko die and have chie and naoto
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>>81799204
Of course they can.

That's how they become Goddess of Life and Death, and have a ball of fire come out of their vagina.

Thanks for making Kagutsuchi, you asshole.
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>>81799607
>putting mitsuru in your party

MARIN KARIN
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>>81799419
>1920x1080
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>>81800060
get good
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>>81799826
yeah well, its a long fight.

>>81800060
Thanks for outing yourself
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>>81799476
I think you still can lose a single day-just try to make it a day where you can't get school social links.
And all out attacks against Shadow Yukiko do less damage than a bufu spell.
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>>81798423
>"I could suck that topsicle better"
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>>81800194
yeah i bet naoto's hamas and mudos are really useful against bosses with light/dark immunity

faggot
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>>81800252
The damage loss is minor compared to the SP cost, especially if you're going for Shadow Yukiko on the 18th (which means you'll be fighting through the miniboss Knight and the trashmobs). Even in Golden you probably want to conserve SP between killing Prince Charming and Shadow Yukiko activating Burn To Ashes, since you've probably used up all your TaP and Soul Drops fighting your way up.
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Margaret gets her persona cards back at double speed. She gets them back as fast as someone with 4 cards.
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>>81799419
>Didn't bring Aigis, Junpei and _____Ken

It's like you didn't even consider who had the most to prove
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>>81800354
Naoto and her costumes are more worthwhile than Teddie, Yosuke, or Kanji could ever be.

If you care about actual rpg stuff in Golden, you've already fucked up. None of it matters.
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>>81801013
>Why care about RPG stuff
>in an RPG
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>>81801013
>If you care about actual rpg stuff in Golden

She's broken good in Golden, Heat Rider+Mind Charge. Way too good.
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>>81795531
>picking Yu

That Katsuyafag girl has better taste than you.
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>>81800883

>Ken and Junpei

I never picked them to do anything.
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>>81801238
Plus you can pick from any of the -dynes.

>>81801213
its a waifu sim. The dungeons are like pointless minigames that break up the VN
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>>81799419
i feel like you dont have widescreen hack on
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>>81799419
>Not Mitsuru Akihiko and Aigis
Idk, that was my go to party comp in FES. Never had Mitsuru Marin Karin anything. I got pretty smart AI help in my run.
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>>81799607
>Yukiko dead with 44 SP
What
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>>81800882
so not only is she virtually unbreakable, if you manage to break her she doesn't stay broken for very long?
Fucking broken bitch.
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>>81800882
>Arcsys in charge of doing DLC right
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Rise/Kanji makes a far better couple than Kanji/Naoto or Yu/Rise.

Their chemistry is bomb
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>>81803615
Dis nigga gets it. Too bad Atlus doesn't since they're so afraid of the waifufagging otaku.
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>>81803615
kanji/rise and yu/naoto are my otp's
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best P4 party gogo:

>Teddie: Ice Amp/Ice Boost/Mediarahan/Mabufudyne/Bufudyne/Samarecarm/Matarukaja/Marakukaja
>Yukiko: Fire Amp/Fire Boost/Agidyne/Maragidyne/Salvation/Samarecarm/Fire Break/whatever you want
>Yosuke: Wind Amp/Wind Boost/Magarudyne/Garudyne/Brave Blade/Wind Break/Dekaja/Masukukaja
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>>81804221

I think you should leave
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>>81803615
Rise and Kanji have great chemistry as friends.
just like YUkari and Junpei.

They would make terrible couples.
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>>81804221
>pairing Yu with anyone

Weirdo.
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>>81804221
I'm more of a Yu/Marie guy myself but I can really see the merits of pic related. At least we all agree that Rise and Kanji are best couple 2014
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>>81804529
For vanilla?
Depends what you're doing.

>Grinding/clearing dungeon
Naoto
Chie
Yukiko

>Bossfights
Teddie
Yosuke
Anyone but Naoto
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>>81804576
Rise and Kanji get along so well, students think they are dating.
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>>81804819
For bossfights. Grinding and trashmobs can be done with Yosuke/Teddie/Yukiko, it's just a bit harder, but the extra XP you get on them is worth it.
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>>81804529

It depends on what I want to do.

> Fighting a boss at endgame?
Yosuke/Chie/Yukiko . I pick Chie over Kanji because of Dragon Hustle and give her that accessory that halves SP consumption.

> Fighting a boss before endgame?
Yosuke/Kanji/Yukiko , although I still use Chie sometimes.

> Clearing floors?
Naoto/Chie/Yukiko , spam phys and instant death spells. Never ever use -dyne spells unless absolutely necessary.
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>>81804576
Chie and Yosuke have great chemistry as friends.
just like Yukari and Junpei.
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>>81805113
There's no way that Yukari and Junpei weren't casual fuckbuddies. Sorry.
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>>81802408
She is the strongest sibling.
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>yfw Kanamin falls for Kanji
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>>81805174
It's okay
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>>81804925
It's not harder, it's just less efficient.
>Yu with auto-mataru, use multi-target physical
>Naoto
>Hama/Mudo if enemy is weak + have SP, otherwise Vorpal Balde
>Chie uses Agneyastra
>Enemy is probably dead by now, if not kill them with Yukiko.
>Yukiko heals party out of battle.
>Minimal SP used

>>81805084
Personally I find Kanji more valuable than Chie at endgame since I keep a persona with 3xauto-mawhatever+debilitate, which makes Dragon Hustle redundant since the enemy dies after maybe six rounds, so you only need to bother to reapply matarukaja (which Kanji can do)
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I've been away for a year. What's the story with this new Arena game?
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>>81804616
Whether or not you actually ship Kanji and Rise and in general, you shouldn't really "ship" unless all that means to you is "some of these pictures are cute" the thing is Kanji and Rise actually have a chemistry together. That doesn't have to mean romance, it just means they actually interact. They can do things together. Kanji's relationship or lack thereof goes nowhere. Their entire thing is that she barely realizes he exists and Kanji can hardly say two words to her.
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>>81805704
Adachi and Yu spank their naughty baby boy
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>>81805751
>Their entire thing is that she barely realizes he exists

Huh? She always teases him
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>>81805751
*Kanji's relationship with Naoto

Well fucked that one up.
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>>81805465

Well there are only three major boss fights at endgame. Marie, which is a special fight with its own rules, Margaret which is a long and involved fight, and Izanami. You can kill Izanami blazingly fast, maybe in six turns but most would not. So really its only Margaret that matters. And Dragon Hustle is undoubtedly useful against her. Evasion is important as is defense in making that fight as easy as possible.
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>>81805305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZNv8NXI0sw
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>>81805830
I meant his relationship with Naoto. The two of them hardly do anything together.
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>>81806076
Walking is for weaklings.
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>>81805704
It's Marie's fault. Yu and Adachi have to punish their gay baby.
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>>81806179
Except for the constant hints. There's no way atlus put that in the game if they didn't intend for it to happen. Kanji has a crush on naoto, this is canon
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>>81806320
Don't forget the first Arena is also Marie's fault.
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>>81806373
It's an extremely one-sided deal. Kanji does have a crush on Naoto, but Naoto doesn't give a shit about Kanji.
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>>81806373
The constant hints he has a crush and she's oblivious.

And will remain so for the rest of his life.
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>>81806464
>>81806557

Explain the ski blush then
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>>81806464
Hell, the only time I can think of when Naoto and Kanji interact besides them meeting initially is that one tiny event where it's raining and Kanji and Yosuke don't have umbrellas.
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>>81806594
Golden making fun of pairings.
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>>81805883
Yeah, that's true. But how many times do you get to pull off Dragon Hustle with Chie, with Chakra Ring and her using SP to power charge, maybe three? Do the benefits of three dragon hustles outweigh Kanji's superior damage output or Yosuke's long-term buff consistency? I'm not sure.

>>81806373
No shit. But Naoto doesn't reciprocate it and the two barely speak to each other. Still cute though.

>>81806594
Naoto is embarassed by failure and would have blushed at falling on anyone.
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>>81806373
The constant hints are that Kanji likes her. They're not even hints, it's the game basically telling you over and over HE LIKES HER. But she doesn't return the favor. And they don't do anything. "He likes her" is not chemistry. That requires the two of them to meaningfully interact, not for him to stare at her from a distance while she sleeps, like all blonde haired people in Persona.
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The ski trip looked to me like it was clearly poking fun at the fanbase with their shipping. That being said, I was pleased with the Atlus pairings, because best girl was paired with Yu.
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>>81806594
She crashes into a guy. She's embarrassed. Don't be retarded.
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>>81806642
There's also Kanji's non-canon and thus just like FeMC joke ending in Arena.
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>>81806685

> Do the benefits of three dragon hustles outweigh Kanji's superior damage output or Yosuke's long-term buff consistency?

Well I use Yosuke in boss fights. As for Kanji, I think it does outweigh it when you consider all the wasted turns casting ma-kaja spells.

But to each his own.
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>>81806709

Rise would make the better girlfriend for Yu, the others act like potatoes too much.
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Kanji's first kiss is Yosuke anyways.

Even if they don't know or remember it happening in PQ.
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>>81806679
>>81806685
>>81806771

I think you're simplifying things. That wasn't an "oh my, I'm sorry for crashing into you" blush, it was a "I crashed into a guy who I like and am embarrassed about it" blush

I think she even averts her eyes. Read between the lines.
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>>81806974
Go back to fanfiction.net
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>>81806974
Or you are overthinking things.
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>>81806907
You misspelled Yukiko
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>>81806907

Exactly. Rise's the alpha girl and deserves Yu the most.
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>>81806974
I think you need to take your shipper glasses off. Naoto is a typical Japanese female, which means they avoid close contact with people. She fucking freaks when the girls touch her in the bath house, so accidentally crashing into a dude is even worse.

That being said, you are over analyzing things.
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>>81807152
are you kidding me? she's the fucking essence of potato
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>>81806974
naoto is the timidest fucker ever

she'd blush if anyone regardless of gender even so much as brushed up against her
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>>81806907
I thought we already established that Naoto is the most proactive when it comes to getting regular helpings of Yu cock, but she's althe the least in-your-face about it.

>>81806974
>Shippingfags actually believe shit like this

>>81807152
Yukiko is the blandest potato of the bunch.
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>>81806709
Yeah, this. There's no way that Rise wasn't made as the canon lover for Yu. They're even both from the city.
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>>81807152
>>81806907
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>>81807261

If you're talking about Naoto being with anyone and not dying miserable and alone, then you better believe it's not 'already established'.
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>>81807373
Labrys is such a disgusting slut.
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>>81807416
I'm just saying, the girl's lewd as fuck
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>talking about Yu ships

Step aside irrelevant fanon
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>>81805760
The red hair guy is Yu's baby?
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>>81807568

And I like Marie too. It's like all my favorite girls in P4 get the most screen time and shipping bait with Yu even though Chie & Naoto are the most popular with weirdos.
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>>81807495
That's not canon though
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>>81807568
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>>81807568
Animes are not canon.
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>>81807568

People weren't joking when they said Marie was Atlus's Lighting. I blame Tadashi, he started this insert shit.
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>>81807248
Shhh. You're going to get the yuri-folks in here with comments like that.
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Kunino-Sagiri keeps wrecking me /pg/ what do I do? I thought he was already merged in Golden.
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>>81807646
NO Kagutsuchi. The not Nyarly of the game.

The child born from Marie.

>>81807735
Pure as rotting flesh filled with maggots.
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>>81807784

If Marie is a self-insert, who is she a self-insert of? Is there a single female employee at Atlus besides the secretary?
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>>81807784
No, we said Marie CASTS lightning.
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>>81807846
grind

i think there's some strategy to cheese it where you cast a bunch of makarakarns to make him waste turns getting rid of them

but that's stupid so grind and fuse better
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>>81807646
Sho is Ikutsuki's adopted son. Ikutsuki shoved a plume of dusk into him to force him to manifest a Persona. Instead the ego in the plume of dusk awoke, and manifested a Persona, while Sho remained without, though he did devlop a penchant for violence. Ikutsuki declared the whole thing a failure and disowned Sho.

Sho is edgeman and wants the world to end to create a new world just for him because he's sad. Minazuki, the ego in the plume of dusk, thinks that's a brilliant idea and encourages this and helps out. The make a deal with a being called Kagutsuchi to end the world and shit. Kagutsuchi needs persona power(tm) to manifest in the real world.

Shock and horror, Kagutsuchi was using them the whole time and is just going to destroy the world, including Sho. Adachi and Yu ascend a false Tartarus with some other irrelevant characters and merge their Izanagis into a sword and kill Kagutsuchi.
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>>81807846
No he hangs out in Marie's bag in Ultimax along with Ameno
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>>81807968
I'm already 10 levels above him and everybody else is at his level.
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>>81808062
wow you just fucking suck then
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>>81807759
Games are not canon.
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>>81808062
>outlevels the boss by 10
>still has trouble with fucking kunino
how did you even pass shadow mitsuo you massive shitter
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>>81807916
Every guy who wants to fuck Yu.

Except Yosuke.

>>81808002
No Ikutsuki tried to down Sho because Minazuki tried to kill Ikutsuki for manipulating and using Sho.

Ikutsuki himself mentions that Sho was a shadow killing machine before the plume of dusk as well.

Also they were living in Inaba and it was boring as shit until the murders happen and then Sho watched and was entertained.
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>>81808062
how are you losing to him? is he hitting your/party members weaknesses repeatedly? can't deal with quad convergence? control? what's your party makeup?
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>>81808158
Nothing is canon, but there are some things that don't exist even in nothingness.

Like the animes, FeMC, Kanji x Naoto or Yosuke x Chie ever being canon, etc.
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>>81807846
Sukukaja/Sukunda + Makarakarn
Have a persona that nulls phys (Shiki-Ouji is one around that level).

>>81808062
What the hell are you doing

>>81807703
No but
>If you take part of me, take all of me
>Sharing body heat doesn't work, let's share body heat
>A maid in a house would serve the needs of many, but I would only serve yours
>This outfit is so revealing, can't we save it until we're in private?
>I wore this girl's uniform because I thought you'd like it
>That sure was fun getting our fortunes, do you want to come over to my empty house and get it on Senpai
>Tell me more about yourself Senpai
Are all things that happen in the game
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>>81808124
I know.

>>81808168
I don't fucking know mate.

>>81808341
Kanji, Naoto, Teddie/Yukiko. They're hardly getting enough damage in though.
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>>81808471
>Are all things that happen in the game

You're paraphrasing half of those things
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>>81808582
Are you abusing debuffs?
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>>81808582
Vanilla or Golden?

Regardless, drop Naoto for someone else, if you're struggling then she doesn't bring anything great to bossfights.

>>81808617
Doesn't make them wrong.
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>>81808582
>using naoto
>on a bossfight

she better have some elemental skills or else she's dead weight nigga

at what point are you losing? before the first quad convergence (2/3 hp)? before control (1/3hp)? before 1000hp (unerring justice spam)?
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>>81808628
Yes

>>81808761
This is my first time playing Golden but I played Vanilla years ago.

>>81808819
I'm struggling just getting him down enough to use quad coverage. Everyone's moves are doing 100~ each time which is a lot lower than any other shadow.

I'll try dropping Naoto for Chie now, and I just got Shiki-Ouji, I wouldn't expect that to work with frequent he uses wind.
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>>81809291
Are you using the same element as he is? That's what does the most damage. Or just use a magic mirror and have him kill himself.
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>>81805306
>yfw Kanamin gets a Persona pf her own

what Arcana would she be
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Are Snow Queen and Time Castle already in TUUSH or am I going to have to buy them?
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>>81809291
Ok.
Make sure you keep either masukukaja up on everyone or sukunda up on him, along with matarukaja and rakunda. Have power/mind charge up as often as you can.
Make sure you have makarakarn/magic mirror up on Yu before he uses quad converge. Have everyone except Yu guard on the turn he uses quad converge to scout out what the element change is.
As long as quad converge is active, only the element he uses against you will have any effect. Swap to a persona that resists or nulls that element. If one of your party members is weak to that element, have them guard, and if it's Yukiko, have someone else acting as backup healer (either Teddie or items).
Quad converge resets after about three turns.

When he's at about 1/3 health, swap to Shiki-Ouji.
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>>81809804
Temperence because the franchise doesn't have any of those yet

>Ib4 fool
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>>81809291
>I'm struggling just getting him down enough to use quad coverage

he shouldn't be killing you before quad convergence. How is he killing you? Lucky masomethingdyne into one more into total party kill?
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>>81810287
His regular attacks are damaging more than Teddie can heal.
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>>81810873
What the heck level is Teddie?
You've tried with Yukiko too, right?
Mediarama should be enough to get by on this fight, if I'm remembering right.
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>>81810873
Fuse something with Mediarahan (and Samarecarm to boot - Ishtar has both), put it on the protagonist, and go to town.

Both Teddie and Yukiko should have strong heals and Samarecarm by this point though.
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>>81809894
snow queen is in, no sure for the other
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>>81807784
>she sees your dick
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>>81810873
Check if you have a ring that improves healing and put it on teddie. Otherwise, check if Yukiko has 'Divine grace' and use her.

Also, spam makrakarns: the element it casts is the one that odes most damage to it so it ends up killing itself. You can and should use it as well
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>>81811851
'it' being the element the boss casts. I can't speak
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WANT TO BE CLOOOOSE
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>>81811851
The bonus healing item is Blessed Hands
that's why I thought Mediarama would work, I usually have those on my healer for that fight
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I'm getting P4AUltimax, but haven't played P4A. Anything I'll be missing?
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>>81812274
labrys is the mastermind in p4a
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>>81812274
Don't waste money on that garbage game
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>>81812274
Absolutely nothing important.
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>>81812274
p4a's story was a huge waste of time, literally nothing happens

the only interesting thing was labrys' backstory
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>>81812691
Ultimax only has two stories this time right? One from each side? P4A's concept of 10+ contradicting stories was fucking retarded.
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>>81812691
>literally nothing happens
Things literally happen, it's just not very important.
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Anyone hoping we get a sibling team as part of the main party? none of this one of them dies bullshit either, I feel like it would be an interesting dynamic.
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So can we expect anything new from the Persona Stalker Club thing tomorrow?

Sorry, it's hard to say with a straight face.
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>>81812845
they wanted to go the BB CSE route where people had their own individual stories, but it makes more sense there because of time loops and people actually doing shit. In p4a all you need to do is like play Yu/Aegis/Labrys/Liz story modes and you're done. You can find out what happens to kanji/teddie/naoto just through other modes, its just a waste of time
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>>81812963
I'd be fine with that.
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>>81812963
as separate characters or as a weird "we're twins who do everything together so we're one party member" character thing?
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I liked the individual stories in P4A. You got see each character's inner monologue and a sense of their individual personalities.
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>>81813110
I'm expecting a full reveal of Persona 5. A deep look into its plot and cast.
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>>81812963
You mean like in EP? I hope so. I want to see more characters with siblings, especially living siblings. None of this 'MY SISTER DIED IN A FIRE' kind of thing like Akihiko.
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>>81813324

That's a perfectly reasonable expectation.

I think we should go into total meltdown on /pg/ if that fails to come to pass.
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>>81813486
Also, a release date. And a playable demo.
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I actually felt kind of bad for that stalker duo at TGS. Cause I'm sure they'd LIKE to have shown something that pleased the crowd watching but it wasn't their call to make. And when it cut to the crowd there was so much disappointment evident. You could kind of see the reaction in their faces when they were saying goodbye like "man the people watching us are really disappointed."
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>>81813667
We can still be their friends, right?
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>>81813130
Naoto's and Mitsuru's are really both pretty necessary since they have the public safety stuff that you can't get from any other routes
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>>81814394
I'll agree on this one. The issue spills into Ultimax and is left completely unresolved.
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>>81812845
Doesn't Ultimax still contradict? Like which group rescues Mitsuru first along with Mitsuru's dialogue to them. Also the fact that only P4 has the True End.
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>>81813893
Of course

It's Atlus who are the true rusemasters
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>>81814915
Yes, but not nearly as badly as Arena does.
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>>81814394
public safety are retarded and ruin everything, it's like they exist just to piss everyone off.
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>>81814915
Theo shows up mostly in P3 story mode if I recall right, then just shows up late for the P4 True End.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zeunmoby5Vk
>YES
>YES
>YES
>NO
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>>81817705
>all pre-orders and a limited first production run will include a collectible Teddie bop bag and set #1 of the iconic Persona 4 tarot cards
sega always does this shit.
fuck you sega.
fuck. you.
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you guys are too hard on ultimax. general consensus im getting from reviews is that gameplay is improved, shadow characters are fun and the story is pretty good. This game should've been the finale for P4 not that ddr bullshit
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>>81818740
>story is pretty good
I don't know about the other stuff but this is absolutely wrong
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>>81818740
>the story is pretty good.
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>>81818801
What did you want from the story? Its just a fucking spin off, we're not gonna see sho or labrys again
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Igor playable in Arena when?
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>>81807568
Marie x Yu is the best Yu ship simply because it keeps him away from the good waifus.

Before Marie, Yosuke x Yu served the same purpose.
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>>81818965
For it to not go full retard and end with adachi and yu fusing their izanagis into a sword to kill destroy-the-world-no-okami, and for the characters to in general be written a little better

especially mitsuru. what a wreck
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>>81818740
none of us dislike Ultimax aside from the story being schlock

>>81818965
>We're not going to see Labrys or Sho again
Sho's practically confirmed to be appearing in the future
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>>81819093
>Daddy-issues-no-okami gets beaten by his daddies

Shit story aside, this part was funny to me.
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>>81819173
If he comes back it'll be a throwaway line. They wouldnt throw a spin off character in a mainline game.

i hope
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>>81819643
He's confirmed as a future VR guest along with Liz
He'll either be in the next Arena or P5HERO
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>>81819643
P5HERO
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>>81819173
>Sho's practically confirmed to be appearing in the future
Sho, SEES, and most of IT are going to join the P1/2 casts in the irrelevant pile.
Yu and Yosuke will get a quick cameo somewhere, Teddie will show up in some mainline game, and someone will show up in a cutscene with Chies jacket or Naotos hat.

>>81819705
>He's confirmed as a future VR guest along with Liz
which means nothing.
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>>81819784
P3 and 4 won't be discarded until after they've finished milking the 3, 4, and 5 trilogy

>which means nothing
no it doesn't, it means they'll be future VR guests. VR guests are important characters, you don't get named a future VR guest and then just ignored forever after

You're delusional, dude
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>>81820194
Who the the fuck said 3,4 and 5 is a trilogy?
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>>81819093
Not just atonement. Mitsuru gets one section to fight in P3 and then has to be saved because she's too damn tired after being crucified for the longest time. The others get rescued earlier and help out the teams. Mitsuru is only in Ultimax to be rescued on both sides and to talk about Sho's backstory. She got screwed

>>81819784
I honestly doubt it. I fully expect more milking from IT and SO but its far too early to say P5 is going to be milked
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>>81820386
The same people who think Liz and Sho are important apparently.
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>>81820386
They have the clear color themes between them, P3 and P4 have already had crossover, and with them being owned by Sega there's no way they won't milk the previous games some more by having all three crossover later.
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>>81820514
>Future Velvet Room guests
>not important
ok buddy whatever you say
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>>81820514
i doubt liz will show up again, it's just "i'll never give up trying to revive MC even if it takes hundreds of years", which probably means it will take hundreds of years
>>81820595
i don't think sega exercises that much authority over them/gives a shit
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>>81820595
>clear color themes between them
just like the p2, p3, and p4 triology
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>>81820732
what was P2's color?
when did P2 get a crossover game with P3 or P4?
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>>81820815
He's making fun of you, baka.
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>>81820732
>>81820815
EPP lets you change the HUD color to match any persona game and is thus closely related to all of them, nyarlythotep confirmed for everything
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>>81820950
P5 is actually EPP US release confirmed
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>>81820982
give me the pepperoni yu namba
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>>81813223
separate characters,make us care about both siblings and not just the girl atlus!
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>>81820815
IS had red i guess. Anyways the reason why we get so many cross overs with 3 and 4 and not 2 is because IT and SEES characters can pair up in a way the p2 crew just cant.
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>>81821041
>you'll never be able to eat pizza again without thinking of Tatsuya
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>no TCRF page for Ultimax
boooo
I don't think I could do it, I can't even think of what's cut besides obvious shit like the placeholder Ken icons and Shadow Marie
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>>81821765
Sho, Minazuki, SLab, Margaret, and Marie navigators.


Also the announcer is bugged and says "Margaret" instead of "Amada and Koromaru" when playing Ken. Not sure how prominent it is since I don't main him, but it's happening for me in Arcade mode.
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>>81822089
>Sho Navigator

This could either the best thing ever or really really shit.
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I want to protect Marie's tsun
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>>81822228
I want puns. Lots of puns.
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>>81822574
>tfw no Ikutsuki navigator
how could you do this to me atlus
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>playing P4
>wondering how /pag/ was able to withstand the faggot that is, yosuke
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>>81823603
what's /pag/
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>>81823603
Yosuke is the best team mate though. Thats not saying much though since all of the IT is shit
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>>81823696
my bad, i mean't /pg/
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>releasing P4AU on the same week as Sm4sh on 3DS

did they want this game to die
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>>81824346

Atlus doesn't care about the west
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>>81824346
Nobody thats anybody cares about smash.
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>>81824046

>best team mate

>A creepy pervert who is also homophobic and shit to any member of the IT who is not Yu.
>Best anything.

it doesn't matter how much you dislike everyone else, Yosuke is objectively the shittiest.
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>>81824794
But I love being homophobic. It's my favourite hobby. I enjoy being homophobic with Yosuke together as I fondle his balls in the sauna.
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>>81824346
Persona Q is coming out the same week as the Wii U edition as well. I'm gonna wait till Q's a bit cheaper till I get it.
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>>81824794
Perverts are the best, and its not fair to call him homophobic, he's just playfully uncomfortable with Kanji, its not like he hates him for being presumably homosexual.

Plus he has the best battle stance.
>>
>Yosuke
>kidding aside
>weird voices aside
>aside aside aside aside aside aside aside aside
he is so fucking annoying, and i can't believe he's a fucking social link
>>
>>81827421

You can thank Atlus USA for the shoddy translation.
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>>81827421
Don't you love your aibou?
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>>81827421
Oh yeah? well you're a poopnose.
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>>81827791
is that meant to be a burn
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>>81824046
might be cute
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Has Movie 2 been released yet? I've been away for so goddamn long.
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>>81831420
In Japanese theaters? Yes. On Blu-ray, or any way it would otherwise be subbed? No. We'll probably hear more late this year or early next year about it.
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>>81831610
Why not just camcorder sub it?
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>>81831715
because you would get arrested
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>P3
>lab explosion
>13th arcana
>tartarus
>mad scientist wants world to end
>fight to save world

>P4
>nancy drew + persona

did atlus run out of ideas? i wonder what theme P5 has
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I fucking love the characters and story of P2,but the battles are really a pain in the ass and they take a lot of time.

Is there a place where i can watch P2 or does anyone here have cheat codes that make the game a bit more fun to play.

Also have a picture of the best girl.After Jun of course.
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>>81832291
>i wonder what theme P5 has

The theme is fanservice. And the plot is one of the old games with a something-no-okami thrown in the middle.
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>>81832757
I always found it interesting that while Izanami was confirmed a god,Izanagi was merely a persona.
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>>81832757
is this 4realz?
because if it is, i've just totally lost faith in atlus
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>>81833110
well there's a fair chance of it happening but we don't know shit about P5 yet
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>>81832957

But it wasn't bad in P4. The problem is Hashino has been abusing the no-Okami since then.
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>playing first Persona game

I have no idea what I'm doing. I don't really understand the combat system at all. I just tend to go Skills -> AoE Power. I tend to get destroyed if I don't kill everything on the field in two or so turns.
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>>81833779
Just arrange your party in a way everyone gets a chance to hit someone. Exp there is gained by amount of damage dealt so letting someone whore all the exp's gonna end up crippling your team.
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So uh
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>>81788301
From the way it's spelled, it should be pronounced like the latter.
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>>81833110
Stop believing things people say. No one knows anything about Persona 5. People are just being excessive pessimistic because "Atlus is doomed! Abandon ship!"
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>>81833228
>plot twist
>potter-kun is actually a support type
>Nanako, now a high-schooler gets to be the lead and gets the wild card
>fanservice ensues
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Wasn't P4U2 supposed to be released a day earlier at the PSN? Is it out yet?
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>>81836348
NO
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When do you get handout Personas in Persona 2 IS and how often? Is there something I have to do to aqcuire them? The FAQ says I can beat the game without ever going to the velvet room and just relying on handouts.
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>>81832957
In purseowner universe, gods are created by humans. If Izanami exists because people believed she exists, Izanagi must be running around somewhere too.
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>>81837032
Like twice or so. You need to make.your friends deal with their problem alone (except Yukino) and find 4 masks in Mt. Iwato.
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>>81836348
You can preload it if you purchased it already but not play it.
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>retards actually excusing REMOVING dual audio that's present in Jap version
And this is Fatlus fanbase, a bunch of retards that will eat up any shit thrown at them.
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>>81838582
But since you're clearly the superior fan you won't be a retard and just shut the fuck up about it, right? Because if you're so bothered you can always NOT buy it. Fight the system, be the difference you want to see in the world, y'know?
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>>81838582
I like the dub but your right it was bad for them to remove it
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>>81838987
Joke's on you, I do fight the system by not buying it.
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>>81838582
What the hell is dual audio?
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>>81835732
>"Atlus is doomed! Abandon ship!"

I don't think they are doomed or anything. But it's a fact they are deep in the fanservice and making things easy for casuals. They are a small company that suddenly got some success, so it's only natural. But it's there. They already make P4 a safer P3. P5 has a lot of chances of being an even safer P4, if that's possible. Not that it can't be a good game, but not as good as it could.
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>>81839381
b8
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>>81832651
>after Jun
But Jun's boring as fuck yaoibait
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>>81838582

I'm not excusing that shit. And I'm actually mad PQ will only have the dub too.
I don't like American dubs, and I hate I have to get another country's shitty dub with no choice.
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I'm not too worried about the P5 plot or characters.

All I'm concerned about is the gameplay, in particularly the combat system. I hope in that regard Atlus does try anything 'bold'.
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>>81839835

I meant to say I hope Atlus doesn't try anything bold.
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>>81839835
would you like real time ?
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>>81839835
I just hope the "you got a new persona" mechanic goes beyond Shuffle Time. Maybe it's time to introduce demon I MEAN shadow negotiations to Persona.
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>>81840387
I don't, demon negotiations were painfully tedious. I do hope however that skill cards or the ability to select the skills you inherit to be in the vanilla version of the game.
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>>81840387
ewww no
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>>81840387
I just hope we get actual combo attacks like we did in P2. The ones we got in P4G were kinda a pain in the ass to execute in my opinion.
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>>81840387
>negotiations
>anything but complete horseshit garbage in every iteration so far
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>>81839835
I hope they go full on interactive storytelling.
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>>81839414
I can see where you're coming from, but I would seriously never expect anything less than an easy casual-fest in Persona. The whole point of the series from the start was to make a more accessible JRPG and entry point to MT. I would like a little more challenge too but it was never going to happen.
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>>81839835
All I want is the removal of bonuses in Social Links for bringing a matching persona with you. Having to run to the Velvet Room before every SLink to fetch Sandman or Asparas or some other shit early game Persona isn't fun, even more so when you'll have to resummon your main party for a shitton of money.
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>>81840730
>I kept offering him items and he ran away! This is bullshit fuck this game

demon negotiations are ez nigga you just gotta figure it out

it's a lot better than hoping to get a shuffle time, then hoping you get the persona you need, then hoping input lag doesn't fuck you over
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>>81841029
There's nothing to figure out. In SMT they're completely random and in Persona they're always the same and so you just memorize them and put in the same answers every single time.
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>>81841029
If you can't get the persona you want from shuffle time you must have the reaction time of a dead body. I wouldn't mind a persona auction like in devil survivor though.
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>>81841123
>In SMT they're completely random
except they're not, you can influence demons to join you by answering their questions correctly, by giving them items up to a point, and by ending negotiations at the right time to show you're nobody's bitch
>in Persona they're always the same and so you just memorize them and put in the same answers every single time.
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about anymore
>>
Who has the best in persona?
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i want a anti velvet room that is jut like the velvet room but reverse and gay stuff
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>>81841331
4-element lilim

izanagi x asparas for omoikane w/ zio, bufu
slime x sandman for orobas w/ agi, garu
omoikane x orobas for lilim w/ zio, bufu, agi, garu
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>>81841314
What? In IS it's literally "X enemy like Y option with Z character".
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>>81841331
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>>81841331
People dont use him because they got attached to Mitsuru or Yukari.
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>>81841505
>Persona character
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Xth for the best character in the Persona series.

Tatsuya's second.
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>>81841739
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>>81841478
>implying atlus would use the demon negotiation mechanics from a game from 15 years ago

bruh you can't seriously think i was talking about that shit
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>>81841797
You're second, Tat-chan.
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>>81839803
Get a PS3 with CFW so you can enjoy P4U2 and P5 undubbed and 3DS with Gateway for DeSu1/2, SH, SMT4 and PQ undubbed.
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>>81842710
gtfo
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>>81842797
It's the only way unless you know Nipponese, faggot.
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>>81842836
support the games
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>>81842946
>support cancer
No thanks.
Besides this thread alone proves that Fatlus USA has enough drones to keep their pockets full.
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>>81843041
Whoa yeah you're totally right. 4 people in a 4chan thread can really do wonders to Atlus USA's pockets!
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>>81844335
Look at their forums or any comments on siliconera, their own youtube channel and so on.
They have enough drones to keep them afloat that eat up that shit.
I'd rather they didn't localize games at all if they're so incompetent with it, and instead have SEGA do it.
SEGA at least never censors shit and offers multi audio.
It also never shits on Europe.
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>>81844512
fuck Europe
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>>81844918
And this is why you're a mindless shitter drone.
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>>81844512
You sure seem mad over nothing. Since it's been stated that the game would be region free "no dual audio" was pretty much confirmed as an anti-importing measure for the japanese fans. Oh but you can't possibly see past your "weh atlus USA sux u mindless drones!!!!" argument to think about that possibility, can you?
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I'm excited for video games tomorrow.
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>>81846628
Why?
Ultimax is a shitty fighting game
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>>81846628
I also enjoy playing video games, especially ones related to the Persona JRPG series.
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>>81846190
>as an anti-importing measure for the japanese fans

It's already being released later. Most Persona fans would buy it on release. Only a few stingy ones would wait. And those may not even care about English voices, if they already don't care about English text. And they could use regionblock on Japan.

Avoiding Japanese fans buying games from American is a stupid excuse.
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>>81847324
You're a shitty fighting game
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>>81846190
>excusing companies jewing out one fanbase and fucking over another in the process
This is rich
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>>81841478
>most of the sexy demons in P1 are haughty and/or wise sluts
>Nanjo can negotiate with them the best

I always found that hilarious. Reiji's prestigate option was my second option. Bitches love magic tricks.
>>
In Golden is every slink except Maire and Adachi maxable till february?
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>>81846190
you DO know that the japanese versions are all dual audio and text though, right?
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>>81847324
I enjoy it and playing with friends is fun.
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>>81848396
yea
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>>81847551
This is rich
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>>81848448
The Japanese version doesn't have dual text
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>>81848649
I wonder if P5 will have a ridiculously rich character like Mitsuru or Nanjo.
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>>81848745
not officially no but atlus put the entire english script in for some reason

so to say "oh, we're actually going to REMOVE the other voices and text for the other regions" is completely stupid
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>>81848448
They aren't dual text. Unless you have PS3 with CFW to use Jack's english patch then you're fucked.
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>>81848865
It won't, because Mitsuru and Nanjo took all the money.
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>>81848591
I don't have any friends
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>>81848975
but the full english text is in the game, you just can't access it

so the japanese versions are technically full dual audio but the other versions won't be

that's cheap as fuck
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>>81849820
>so the japanese versions are technically full dual audio but the other versions won't be
What the fuck does that have to do with text?
Jap versions are dual audio and that's undisputed fact, whereas English are not.
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>>81849937
Yeah, that's my point. The other versions won't be dual audio, even though the japanese version is. That means that Atlus would actually be removing stuff present in the japanese version
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>>81849709
I'm sorry anon
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Instead of whining about it, why don't you fags just import the Jap version?
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>>81850121
That's nothing new. They removed interviews from TV Listings or whatever in english version of P4G.
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why do all care about the lack of dual audio so much
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>>81851195
Because most weebs are so pathetic they can't even into moon.
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>>81851301
I don't know any japanese and I imported the japanese version. Though I also don't really give a fuck about the story since I can just youtube it later.
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>>81851481
Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>81851295
I don't care that much but I really hate what they did with Adachi in the dub and Igor and Margret are just awful.
>>
How can people judge Igor or two words?
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>>81851575
>what they did with Adachi in the dub
?
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>>81851072
best girl
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>>81851575
I will never understand why they didn't change Yu's VA. Yeah, I'm sure people would throw a bitchfit because his grunts sound different than in the main game.
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>>81851567
Stay mad that I bought a fighting game for a fighting game and any limitations on that can just be enjoyed free later.
>>
Whats the difference between the PSN and Retail copies of TUUSH anyways? I remember there used to be a PSN and Retail patch but aren't they the same game, just one downloaded and the other bought from a store?
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>>81852568
there is no difference. only difference is the 360 version that has no world lobby currently/ever.
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>>81852568
There are some different preorder bonuses for the digital version but that's it.
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>>81852568
That was for CFW users, basically retail has no DRM (other than disc), digital uses Sony's NPDRM.
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man

i pre-ordred ultimax on amazon instead of at gamestop so i wouldn't have to ask to pick up a game with a shirtless anime dude on the cover

i hope the shipping doesn't take too long cause i really wanna play
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>>81854887
pussy
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>>81854887
It's okay, I'm a coward too
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>>81854887
Faggot. That cover is glorious.
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>>81854887
I pre-ordered at gamestop. But now I'm just scared they won't actually get the game in store until like a week after release date like with Blazblue. I hope your game comes soon comrade.
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>>81855462
i know, but i don't wanna have to talk to someone who might judge me for getting it

>>81855634
thanks anon, hope you get your copy too.
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>>81855973
former gamestop employee here, we all stopped caring months ago

as long as you're not under 12 and you have cash you can get whatever you want
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>>81854887
Going to go pick it up tomorrow morning and wear my Junes shirt while I'm at it.
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>>81854887
Fuck it. They're working at Gamestop during the 10am shift, they're as much of a loser as I am.
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>>81856213
>not working morning shifts before parents come in with their autistic child after school.
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>>81856173
i wish my courage stat was as high as yours, anon

>>81856057
>>81856213
huh. y'know, i think i'll feel a little bit better about picking stuff like this up in the future. thanks guys.
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I have just finished P4G and don't understand one thing - why does the culprit say "Dammit, again?" in the fog scenes, when he already knew that the kidnapped people were saved and aren't in the TV world anymore?
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>>81856575
That's something that always bothered me. Those scenes stopped making sense as soon as you hit the big reveal.
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>>81856575
To not give away who the killer is.
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>>81856575
never explained

but it's been retconned to be Sho
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>>81856575
As someone that worked retail for many years no one honestly cares as long as you don't come into the store smelling like week old trash. I once had a guy come into my store 5 minutes before closing to buy a tv and he was legit 300 pounds with sweat stains everywhere just from walking from the entrance.

Persona is pretty normalfag nowadays anyway.
>>
When P5 characters get personas changed I hope they are story driven changes like 3 P4's don't matter at all especially now that Rise has a battle version of Himiko.
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>>81856890
what
>>
This is super gay

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=46261438&from_sid=1056477898
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I wanted to do Margaret Rank 4 Neko-Shogun with bufula. I saw that one way to do so is make Emperor King Frost (Bufula) + Magician Hua Po = Strength Kusi Mitama (Bufula) first however my King Frosts bufula transformed to mabufula because of one of the shuffle time persona cards. What am i superposed to do?
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>>81858631
Just fuse another one, they're pretty cheap
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>>81858631
make a new king frost and don't put it in the compendium
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>>81858952
>don't put it in the compendium
Of course he should put it in. That makes it easier to finish her S.Link on NG+
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>>81858578
>&from_sid=1056477898
What is that?
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>>81859239
He can just fuse another one on NG+. Having Mabufula on King Frost could get Mabufula inherited on Personas who otherwise couldn't.
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>>81859519
some personas cant get certain elements
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When is the upcoming announcement being announced?
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>>81859992
...and? if they can inherit bufula they can inherit mabufula
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>>81860129
October?
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>>81860129
What are you talking about? I didn't know that they announced that there was going to be an announcement announced
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>>81861025
I don't know, I heard a rumor
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>>81858578

Isn't that the person who draws MC as a girl all the time? Nothing surprising coming from them.
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>>81832291
You realize Nyx was in P1 right?
and the mad scientists at Kirijo were doing pretty much the same thing that the NWO was doing in EP, but without the Joker stuff on the side.
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You want Emancipation?

Get in the line.
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>>81864215
whoever drew this cant make a good rectangle to save their life
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>>81864310
>Cards can't be bent
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>>81859239
No. Just register the neko shogun and keep the king Friday with mabufula in the compendium
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>>81864215
>velvet room meister
>implying it won't be Marie
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>>81864598
>Marie
Theodore
>>
So i bought the psn version of ultimax and on my us account is says "the content is not available before the start date" which is understandable but when i start it on my EU account it says something about "copyright protection information is invalid"

Should i worry or is this just because of the preload? I wouldnt be super happy about having to play on an american account but it wouldnt really make sense
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>>81864215
>no messiah in the background holding the seal against erebus together

0/10
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>>81864873
>Theodore
Sho
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>>81865139
>Sho
The Pierced Boy
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>>81865040
Preload.
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>>81864873
>implying it won't be their other sister they never mentioned
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>>81864598
It will be Igor again. He has a new jap voice in Ultimax.
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>>81865623
Igor with Mara as his nose.
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>>81866017
>loli cousin
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I'M NOT A PRINCESS
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>>81784048
As a person who is about to purchase the 360 version, this pisses me off to the fucking extreme.
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>>81869125
>xbox
kek
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>>81869125
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>>81869125
>buying weebshit for xbox anything
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So, Marie and Adachi are free from tomorrow till next week, right?
>>
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>>81870353
Nope.
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>>81870673
Wait, they aren't?
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>>81807416
>even her doujins suck
Fuck off
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>>81870646
What the hell is this
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>>81871002
It's Ken's win quote.
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>>81871002
Shadow Ken
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>>81870646
>Useless dog...
Fuck you, Shadow Ken.
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>>81870868
no they are
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>>81871625
maybe
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>giving a shit about what the employee sees you buy

I bought Hyperdimension Neptunia and couldn't give less of a shit.

At the end of the day, all they care about is getting sales + powerup rewards card + magazine renewal from you.

But don't worry anon, I was once like you, where I worried about what I would be seen buying.

That changed eventually.
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>>81872169
People being scared of buying this on a store are fucking faggots, holy shit. What's wrong with the cover? Is it because Yu is shirtless? If anything, that's usually a sign of manliness.
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>>81872648
tbh, I'd have more of a problembuying something with a shirtless anime GIRL on it.
Come on guys
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>>81872872
I actually regret not buying Catherine's limited edition because of how amazing it was.

I was a faggot and waited for it to go on sale digitally and I still regret not getting that LE.
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>a better version of this wasn't used as a cover
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>>81873772
>having the Persona poster boy being overwhelmed
I wish.
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>>81873772
2lewd
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>>81873772
>Aigis doesn't even have a suplex move
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>>81873772
>Ultra Suplex Hold
>artwork featuring suplex
>Aigis doesn't have any suplex move
>no one does
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>>81874258
>no one does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPr8qHHPAT4
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>>81874527
That isn't a suplex.
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>>81874964
It's a flying suplex so it is cooler.
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>>81875190
It's a Izuna Drop.
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>>81873772
Figured Aigis was going to be P3's Yu for the story but that role ended up being taken by Labrys.
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>>81876075
Worst Girl.
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>>81877452
Out with the old robot, in with the new.
>>
Man after reading that the story in P4AU isn't that great i'm thinking of skipping it. I was mainly getting it for the story, gameplay was secondary to me.
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>>81878110
gimme your copy
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>/pg/ suddenly hates Labrys
You all suck
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>>81878110

It just shipped for me. I'll almost certainly go through the story (which is all I care about), but I've got a backlog so it's going to be a while.
>>
>>81878110
just watch it on youtube
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>>81878258
>one guy is PG
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>>81877452
How to like Labrys?
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>>81878307
>guaranteed delivery tomorow
>still hasnt shipped
worry intensifies
>>
>>81878110
>playing a persona game for the story


You dont play it for the story, you play it for the characters. It's like watching gilmore girls for the cinematography instead of the dialogue.
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>>81878258
I like her more than Aigis.

>>81878110
Story isn't great but it is still enjoyable. Return of the P3 cast is the best part.
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>>81878258
She is bad.
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>>81878728
for what purpose
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>>81878728
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>>81878505

Where did you order it from? I've noticed with amazon sometimes I don't get the email until late as fuck (sometimes the day of delivery) then it appears suddenly with the whole tracking history and 'out for delivery'.
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>>81878579
>gilmore girls
FAAAGGOT
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>>81879198
>disliking Gilmore Girls
WOOOOOOOOOW
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>>81878916
yeah amazon
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>>81878916
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>>81879343
At worst, it'll be a day late. Mine's supposedly not coming till next week.
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>>81878110
i truly don't understand this. i could understand if this was like, 999 or walking dead y'know VN's with some minor player involvement. since their story driven and the entire reason the game exists is said story then it's cool and makes a lot of sense. but a fighting game? come on son
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How is junpei in p4ua?
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>>81880151
Fairly bad
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>>81879839
>not buying next day Air
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>>81880341
Awright anon, rich kids commin through
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>>81880341
>wasting resources for a vidya

top priorities
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>>81879845
I never cared for fighting games. In P4A i just auto comboed my way through the story
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>>81880626
>being poor
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>>81880959
>4$
are you a jew
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>>81881034
Nanjo, pls go. Why don't you buy out a fast food chain so Mitsuru can mistakenly overpay for food, and leave us alone...
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Whatever happened to that Shadow Variant cover of P4U2? Is it going to be used for english copies of the game or something?
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>>81881420
Possibly the inverse cover, if atlus is cool
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>>81881286
How would Nanjo propose to Mitsuru?
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>>81873772
Why even call it suplex hold? Because it looks cool? I don't get it.
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>>81881472
>if atlus is cool

No variant for anyone. especially not for disgusting westerners.
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>>81880341
I was going to, but after the crap I went through in Arena, I went with free shipping. Once I read the transcripts, I was glad I did. Besides, it's amazon. I've been lucky enough to get games days before the estimated date and if it happens this time, I won't be surprised. Aim low and you won't be disappointed.
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>>81878258
I will always be loyal to Aigis but Labrys a cute
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>>81881537
>You're marring me right away, and I wont take no for an answer.
>My servants have already prepared a gown for you, so get ready.
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>>81880959
>>81880626
i have amazon prime
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>>81881842
>not devoting yourself to the point where no one else appears cute to you

you disgust me
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>>81881608
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mueXK7stvOg
No inverse cover seen.
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>>81881842
what's with the "labrys is a toaster" stuff? where does that come from
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Your senpai's in danger of getting sunburned. Will you apply sunscreen on her, /pg/?
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>>81882708
Probably due to the vents on her head.
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>>81882837

No. Mitsuru is ugly, boring and over rated.
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>>81882708
You can NTR aigis for a toaster on PSP
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>>81882837
i've_been_waiting_for_this.jpg
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>>81882837
If by sunscreen you mean semen, then yeah, why not.
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>>81882115
I'm getting there
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I'm imagining a movie about Aigis trying to free MC based off the brave little toaster
2cute5me
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>>81883825
and posting lewds? I don't think you are nearly committed enough you are disgusting
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>>81883976
that movie was so retarded when you think about it
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Hey, guys! P4U2 is 60 dollars as a preorder at the PSN right now. Do you think that will also be the price tomorrow when it actually comes out??
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>>81870646
damn son, ken got handsome
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>>81883976
i remember this movie giving me nightmares as a kid
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>>81883006
I don't think I've ever experienced taste quite this shitty. Incredible.

Congratulations, your irredeemably terrible opinion has shown me an entire new level of awfulness.
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>>81884691
She is pretty boring. Everyone complaining about how uninvolved she is in the movie astonishes me because it's the same way in the game.
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Does anyone know how long the Persona/SMT games on PSN will be on sale? PSN is so fucking worthless it doesn't even tell you it's discounted, let alone for how long or for how much.
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>>81884365
he's a middle schooler

then again this is persona 3, where atlus thought letting the 16 year old girl bang the 10 year old was cool
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Marie's j.C is -5 if it hits before it starts moving, but +11 or something if it hits after the movement starts
thanks arcsys
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>>81884947

You're forgetting that most Persona "fans" haven't even played the games.
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>>81883976
Now I have Worthless stuck in my head. Thanks a lot.
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>>81884947
I like her and her social link is cool, but for the main plot she's basically just like "HEY MC DIDJA FINISH THAT STUDYING" and also looks really important in plot scenes.
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Marie should be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine.

Whenever she's offscreen, the other characters should be asking, "Where's Marie?"
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>>81885125
That's not a big deal at all, most jump normals are plus when used towards the end of their momentum. Also it's not like she's going to mix you up afterwards, she doesn't have shit to work with.

Just go into training mode and find a way to deal with it. You can definitely anti-air it with most characters with creative move use or straight up 2B.
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>>81885690
>Whenever she's offscreen, the other characters should be asking, "Where's Marie?"

They already do that
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>>81885690
What if Marie was a pretty girl?
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>>81885780
I know, I main her.
She can mix you up pretty badly if she has meter, otherwise she can just do a safe blockstring or maybe set up an eye.

And Margaret has no way to deal with it unless it's done fullscreen. Her 2B trades at best.
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>>81885690
>Whenever she's offscreen, the other characters should be asking, "Where's Marie?"

This happens though. This legitimately happens
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>>81885690
marie could have been a good character if she died at the end of her dungeon

or melted into nothingness or some shit
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>>81886152
marie dying would have been fucking glorious

not just because >marietards but because P4 really needed SOME kind of punch in the gut
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>>81886513
That goes against P4's theme though
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>>81885690
>Louder and angrier

Can't be done

>Access to a time machine

I'm like 90% sure the Velvet Room has one
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>>81885986
Margaret's 214B beats it clean at any range that isn't neutral jump point blank. If she does a blockstring into short hop j.C you have enough time to 2B. If she does like, 2B > j.C you can roll, jump DP, 214B etc.

Even if the 214A/B whiffs you're fullscreen and can't be punished.
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>>81886513
imagine a cutscene at the end of her boss fight where yu plunges a sword into kusumi no okami's gut (pretend she wasn't phys repel for two seconds) and kusumi no okami screams and transforms back into marie... with the sword still in marie's gut

then she looks up, says something stupid and romantic and dies and the hollow forest starts to crumble around everyone
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>>81886716
i know. i like P4 *better* because of its theme. i just think it would have been better for the plot if something actually happened to make the player feel some lasting emotions

>>81886871
that might be a biiiiit too much though
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>>81886716
p4's theme is facing the truth, no matter how hard it can be

having marie be in denial about how her stay in inaba has to be temporary, or about her true nature, would have completely fit in
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>>81887007
>having marie be in denial about how her stay in inaba has to be temporary, or about her true nature, would have completely fit in

but she'd eventually get over it. it's not just "be aware of your true self", it's "accept and overcome your true self"
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Hey since P4U2 is on the horizon I thought may aswell give some shameless advertising to our steam group;

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/PersonaGeneral

We play p4u2 and some UNiEL, some of us have the JP version some of us are getting the NA one when it comes out. If you wanna play some p4u2 drop by, we have some good players !
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So will most Wal Marts have copies of Ultimax? I know I could call them but they'll probably just find a copy P4A and think its the same thing.
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>>81887574
no everyone do not join this group it's full of the scum of /pg/
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>>81887097
except her having to leave makes sense for reasons beyond theme - she's a part of izanagi, so when izanagi gets BTFO it makes sense that marie would have to stop interfering in the world too (that includes her weatherwoman shenanigans)

accepting and overcoming her true self would entail understanding that she can't be with yu - think ryoji and feMC's social link. star crossed lovers and all that.

>>81887592
just go in person and if they try to sell you p4a tell them that's not what you're looking for
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>>81887757
>accepting and overcoming her true self would entail understanding that she can't be with yu - think ryoji and feMC's social link. star crossed lovers and all that.

accepting your true self isn't about compromise dude

that's like saying "well yosuke's shadow expressed a dislike of the country so in the end of P4 he should have moved away to the city"

also ryoji and femc's link is completely irrelevant here since it's not in the game we're talking about
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>>81886838
Actually scratch 2B > j.C losing to j.BD, I tried doing it tighter and it definitely snuffs your jump start up. Everything else works fine though you need to definitely use 214A or 214AB instead of 214B for 2B > j.C.

Worst case scenario you can just S-Hold during her blockstring and get out with the armoured 214B, since Marie's pressure isn't really threatening this is definitely an option.
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>>81886838
damn, I wish j.C wasn't head attribute.
I'd personally never really recommend hop canceling into j.C because of the extra landing recovery and the sizeable gap in pressure

>>81887574
>Jive-Turkey--:
>Main: UNiEL
>Sub: P4U2
god fucking dammit Jive
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>>81887574
I won't join the group, but thanks for the Picture. My MC and Aigis folder is getting outta hand.
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>>81888409
np

But this is the best MC pairing
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>>81888509
MC x Junpei is my OTP
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>>81888509
MC X Elizabeth X Junpei?
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>>81888623
>>81888652
Oh fuck you guys
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>>81888121
Jive turkey is a scrub
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>>81888783
he's alright
shit taste in waifu though
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Been thinking about buying Personas 1+2 duology since they're on sale (plus Vita portability is nice), but how good are the translations?

The only one I'm worried about is P2EP since it's the PSOne 90's version, and not the remake that never got ported. Is it still "playable"?
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>>81888926
yeah it's fine
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>>81888767
sorry
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>>81887574
I'm an awful player who can only spam DP and cry about how shit my DP is because it's punishable. Will I be accepted in the group?
I also waifu terrible, autistic, unlikable characters like Elizabeth
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>>81889005
that is sinful anon
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>>81888878
Fuck off, Jive
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>>81889067
yes, that group is exclusively for unbearable waifufags like natsume and chihibro
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>>81889085
but I'm not Jive, you're Jive
I'm the wee man
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>>81889203
I'm not Jive. I'm a bear.
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>>81889186
>natsume
Jesus christ.
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>>81889260
but Jive plays Teddie and uses a Teddie lobby avatar
can't fool me, motherfucker
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>>81889067
>how shit my DP is because it's punishable

i don't think you understand the concept of a dp
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no i'm jive
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>>81889260
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>>81889313
Natsume hasn't joined the /pg/ steam group in over a year
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>>81889260
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>>81888926
Don't listen to >>81888986

They censored a character and made them black. It's shit.

>paying for roms
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>>81889383
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>>81887897
>accepting your true self isn't about compromise dude

that's exactly what it's about - in every single shadow <party member> fight they acknowledge that their shadow is at least partially correct. Yosuke is bored in inaba, chie does enjoy her emotional control of her friendship with yukiko, yukiko (at least until late in her slink) doesn't want to inherit the inn but isn't willing to do anything about it and feels like she's lost control of her life, kanji won't reconcile his feminine side with his overly masculine self-image, rise does crave the spotlight despite moving to inaba to get away from it - you should know the rest. in all cases, the characters do compromise between how they were before they faced their shadow and how their shadow acts - yosuke admits he's bored of inaba but finds meaning and excitement in the investigation and in yu, chie becomes less forceful and controlling of her relationship with yukiko (do you think she would have agreed to letting yu and yukiko talk to kanji's mom together before facing her shadow?), yukiko realizes she's in control of her life and can leave whenever she wants, kanji starts a puppet-making class and realizes that he can be accepted for his feminine side instead of hiding it, rise realizes that "risette" is a part of her and can be shown to the world without compromising the rest of her.

literally every party member's social link ends with them reaching a newfound understanding that is always a compromise between what they started as and the grain of truth every shadow has at its core
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>>81889372
lol jive
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>>81889405
No one really liked her in the first place anyways
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>>81889372
you're waifu a shit
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>>81889405
Well that's better.

Though the thread has now taken a turn for the worst due to just the mention of someone in the group.
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>>81887004
Just pull a Nanako and say that after Izanami is destroyed Marie is able to become the prime aspect of Izanami and the Sagiris and since people will always want lies on some level she'll always be around and yada yada magical bullshit
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>>81889581
>literally every party member's social link ends with them reaching a newfound understanding that is always a compromise between what they started as and the grain of truth every shadow has at its core

no, not really

barring like 2 scenes, pre-shadow yosuke acts just like post-shadow yosuke
the same with essentially every other character
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>>81889372
Will she ever get a bf?
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>>81889913
jive's a guy
>>
>>81889965

for you
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>>81890041
Lot of loyalty for a hired scrub
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>>81889850

That's because the social links don't necessarily happen during a playthrough, and Atlus is too fucking lazy to change things based on whether or not you've done them.
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>>81889850
>pre-shadow yosuke acts just like post-shadow yosuke

this is an issue with p4 putting character development behind social links and not letting it influence dialogue anywhere else, not with the meaning of the theme. have you played this game
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>>81889594
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>>81890161
>>81890181

So what, you're saying "the characters totally would act different I swear but atlus just didn't include it!"?

sounds like you're talking out of your ass
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>>81889850
That's because character development is sidelined out of the main narrative and into the social links, which is what this guy is talking about.

There are some things that do change in narrative though: compare naoto and rise before dungeon to naoto and rise after dungeon, they're pretty different. Happens with Yukiko, Kanji, and Chie (the 'would pre-shadow chie let yu and yukiko go off on their own' idea is a pretty good one) as well, but it's easier to forget how they were before the dungeons because they all happen very early and don't develop from their post-dungeon position (because social links).
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>>81890393
you're ignoring how the characters act near and at the end of their slinks, which is what you should be looking at if you want to see character development (again, because atlus wrote the main story scenes assuming you had an slink of 1 with every party member)
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>>81890536
>you're ignoring how the characters act near and at the end of their slinks, which is what you should be looking at if you want to see character development (again, because atlus wrote the main story scenes assuming you had an slink of 1 with every party member)

But there's no compromise in those. Yosuke doesn't say anything about moving out of inaba, yukiko still inherits the inn and rise still goes back to being an idol
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>>81890397
>compare naoto and rise before dungeon to naoto and rise after dungeon, they're pretty different.
Yeah, Naoto becomes even more useless after her dungeon.
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