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>EO Stuff
http://pastebin.com/Ct3KwmTP

>7th Dragon Stuff
http://pastebin.com/Eccw5mua

>Recommended dungeon crawler titles (work-in-progress)
http://pastebin.com/6j2usAys

>EORPG Scan
http://www.mediafire.com/download/akyshxa3gn3c3s3/SRS_EO_RPG.rar
http://yggdrasil-labyrinth-tabletop-rpg.wikia.com/wiki/Project_Index

>Elminage Original
http://pastebin.com/CxR3dkJn

>Generation Xth Code Hazard
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rd4t856s6ugjg6p/G-XTH1eng0.5a.rar

>EO2 DX/EO Untold 2 Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmnxfgXsZHc

>EO2DX site
http://sq-atlus.jp/
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I didn't give us permission to die.
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I love this ronin so much.. thinking of starting EOU again just to run a team of 3 cloned Ronin in the front row, a troubadour and a medic in the backrow as well with attack unit/bloody offense/brave song to top off their Overhead Stanceness
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>>78602203
Oh thats right.. stances count as buffs... Attack Unit/Bloody Offense only then. But then with only limited buff slots the troubadour serves no purpose. Maybe a Hexer?
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I hope that the new EO game has a 'be a dick to everyone' option.
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wake up, thread is kill.
pls don't do this to me again
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>>78602571
I hope there's a 'give the dick to everyone' option and H scenes
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>>78603735
Wait till Comiket.
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9th for making your lolis eat weird things in the labyrinth
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The feminists are even spreading to Etrian Odyssey.
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a moment of silence for all the sheep we've sheared on our way to victory, /eog/
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>>78605413
Shit like this makes me wanna tear whoever wrote this a new asshole, but I'm too hungry to do that right now
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>>78605413
I hate most of that but they're also shitting on Untold's story so I'm happy, kinda.
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so how are you diggesting the fact that you have to buy the New N3dsLL to play EO5 and Untold 3?

>>78605413
fuck that fagget, the fuck is PoC?
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>>78605413
It's funny that these posts are worded in a way as if real important people actually follow and read it.
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>>78606475
I'm digesting pretty well, all told, but that's probably because I've had my original model 3DS since it launched and never picked up any of the other ones, so getting a newer upgrade seems like a decent idea for the future.
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>>78606475
These games aren't exactly processing intensive, so I doubt they'll move onto the new hardware. Unless they decided to say fuck it and go full Grimrock with the combat and models.
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To the anon painting his sniper kit, is there anything super cheap I can buy to touch it up? I'd like to paint some parts but the amount I'd be using is so little that I don't want to spend a lot on paints and then never use them after this (maybe I'd use some for Imperial but yeah).
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>>78607091
>full Grimrock with the combat
Please no. I hate that sort of combat.
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>>78605413

>SJW targeting ATLUS games now.

Why?

And I wonder if they know the the jap's just don't care what they think.
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>>78609435
Because we can't have nice things.
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>>78605413
Does this affect anything?
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>>78605413
What is this nonsense about Shilleka and the other NPCs having character depth in the original
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>>78613294
Headcanon
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>>78613636
A really strong one at that too.
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Dead general
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>>78622627
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Repeating my question from the previous thread

What do you guys suggest for team setups for my Classic Expert run of EO:U?
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>>78626169
Your favorite and cutest girls
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>>78605413
You know, I was starting to get upset at this. But then I remembered Japan gives zero fucks about this shit, and felt much better.
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>>78626169
5 hexers
any party works in the game
stop being so insecure about this
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>>78626169
Four survivalists and a troubadour.
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>>78626169
Ronin, Landshark, Dark Hunter, Hexer, Troubadour.
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>>78626238
What if I don't have set favorites? Because I don't know how they look like yet aside from Teach.

>>78626430
I'm insecure because I suck at vidya, I failed against Mecha Franky in Earthbound four times before beating him.

>>78626757
>>78626776
Thanks for suggestions. Time to see how badly it'll go for me.
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>>78627190
> I failed against Mecha Franky in Earthbound four times before beating him.

Maybe 4 is a bit high but it's not uncommon to lose a couple of times
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>>78626253
I remember someone was worried that EOU2 had no chance of being localized because the protagonist isn't white.
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I'm a new scrub, playing EO4. How does a
F/L/N
M/S
party sound?
And what should I be building?
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>>78629730
Any party can work in EO4, and you can reset any character's skill points at the cost of 2 levels, so feel free to experiment.
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Raqunadyne
Raqunda
Raqunahan
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>>78629974
Alright. God help me...
Sorry, I play a lot of SMT and such, so I'm probably more worried about build then I need to be
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>>78630093
>Raqunda

That's ironic
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>>78630093
Razinga
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>>78630093
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>>78605413
He is right, though.
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>>78632062
Right about what? Also I didn't read it because I don't read feminist drivel.
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>>78632323
No he isn't most of it is just bitching about lolis being in the game and how there aren't enough negroes in the game.

Chances are the person in question is a white person because no black person I know including myself would ever use the term "Person of color".
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>>78633445
Ah, so just some mangina/hamplanet with white guilt. Nothing to see here.
Honestly I don't get what the big deal about nigger is anyway. My friends call me that all the time.
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Got my ass wrecked a little more than halfway through my first shot at the Wyrm, but it actually went pretty well, all things considered, so I think if I keep chugging away and give it a few more shots I'll be able to defeat it soon enough. I'm not actually sure how much the Fire Charms helped, since I managed to bind its head on the first turn and it lasted for maybe ten rounds? I dunno.
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>>78626169
Protector, Ronin, Land
Troubador or Hexer, and a Medic.

A Protector in EOU is very helpful, those Anti-Element shields are very useful in some fights and they fixed the status/attack shit from the first game (EX: If an ice element attack that has a chance to kill you, will still have a chance to kill you if it heals you with the Anti-element. This time around, it just heals you with no negative effects)

Ronin are monster damage dealers, just get Overhead and Swallow Strike.. or is it Shallow Strike? Its fairly early on, thatll be your main damage throughout the game. I also highly go against making an Elemental Ronin with the Ronin Abilities, too much stance switching or prepping up for that. Just look for STR-Based Element attacks from enemies. Tigers in Strat 2 for Lightning, Rats in Strat 4 for Fire, Wolves in Strat 1 for Ice

Lands wont be nearly as damaging as the Ronin, but they are there to chase elemental damage via grimoires and alchemist stuff which is kinda nice. Just get the Mace Attack that has a chance to stun, thatll be your big hitter

A Medic is kinda optional depending on if this is your first run or not, my Troubadour had a lot of amazing Healing Grimoire abilities from Simon and was my Main Healer all the way to the ygg core. Echoing Rondo is amazing for both Regen Song, Elderevenge Tea or raw healing. Plus Healing Mastery. And Taboo Rondo when maxed out extends all buffs/debuffs by 3, this includes Stances and enemy def/atk down. Troubadours are fucking amazing in EOU

A Hexer goes hand in hand with the right Ronin, while their tasks to do stuff after debuffing a boss falls off they make great Blue Mages, they can use Attack Unit when you get it, or monster element attacks due to their TEC. I do not recommend getting any Binds or Ailments with the Hexer. Also, while I am not sure I think someone long time ago said something about Hexer Sapping/Frailty stacking with Forest Barrier/Breach resulting in so much more dps.
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>>78640058
>ronin
>not flat
I approve.
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>>78640058
Not who you're replying to, but are landies really that good? I've always stuck with Dark Hunter since level 10 viper wipes the floor with FOEs and bosses early-mid game, and they have binds along with ecstacy/climax.

Can landy outdamage DH? How good are their chases?
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>>78640058
I'm also not the anon you were replying to, but that sounds nearly identical to the team I was planning to use in U; I tried the demo recently.

I was wanting to try and "spiritually" remake my team from IV, but looking at these skillsets I'm realizing that that'll probably be next to impossible. Oh well. I'll take your advice, though, it seems balanced enough of a band.
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>>78633676
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will drive me to suicidal depression.[/SJW]
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>decide to give ant queen a go on my NG+ team
>EVERYONE FUCKING DIES in the second turn
I actually beat this bitch one day?!
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>>78642452
Team and stats/builds? Ant Queen isn't that hard?
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>>78606475
PoC is "person of color", the new SJW term for poor dumb minorities who need white teenage girls to get offended for them
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>>78641348
Dark Hunters with Viper are neat and nice and all, but their damage and bind usefulness really drops off around strat 4. things are harder to land, or immune or the rest of your team picks up speed and starts wiping things out faster then you can set up. My Ronin and Land were just destroying shit before the Dark Hunter could do anything. Use Dark Hunters for Boost Up and Wrath's Might grimoires and toss them aside.

I loved Dark Hunters as well because a half naked woman with a whip can be your thing but I got flacid quickly when she could not stand up to most bosses as you waste turns trying to bind a dragons head or Irnomotheroletotaps arms. Also, the Yggdrasil Core is immune to binds and Diminishing Returns will fuck you hard due to how long the fight is.
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Is there ANY good Whirlwind art? It can't all be lolis. Pls
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>>78642751
>Diminishing Returns will fuck you hard due to how long the fight is
I heard that resistance reset 10 turns after recovery from the status/bind
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>>78642751
>Yggdrasil Core is immune to binds
Not actually true, but they have a very low chance of landing. Same with ailments.
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>>78643037
Nope. 100% of the artists are pedophile men, just like the fanbase.
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>>78643037
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Wat do?
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>>78643037
Is there any art of Whirlwind as a loli?
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>>78643791
Tell him his hair is stupid
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>>78643791
pour water in her ear
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>>78644042
Wat?
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>>78643946
It looks cool. Better than stoner hair
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>>78644431
That's wrong but you're allowed to think that
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>>78643037
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>>78644653
Cute boy
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>>78644209
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>>78642660
Lvl 36 Buc/zod- 36 Glad/Hoplite - 36 ninja monk
31 yggdroid/ninja 36 zodiac/ninja
everyone is ussually focused on ice linking with the buccaneer.
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Choose
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When does 7th Dragon get difficult? I heard it was harder than the EO games, and yes, I'm not using the MURRICA patch.
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>>78645161
4
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>>78645161
666
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>>78645161
4 > 1 > 2 > rest
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>>78645161
5 probably would not show skidmarks so that one I guess. The Labyrinth is not a great place to be for long periods of time.
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>>78645161
Striped thigh-highs do not fit at all.
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>>78645161
2 makes the most sense for adventuring.
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>>78645161
4 is still best.
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>>78643037
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>>78645161
3 is my favorite, but 4 fits the most.
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>>78645247
>I heard it was harder than the EO games
You heard wrong. Game is pretty damn easy. Still fun though.
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Which is the most "fuck you" floor in any EO game?
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>>78646247
A shame, really, I was waiting for it to get balls to the wall hard, but as you said, it's still fun.
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>>78646324
All That Lives Shall Succumb EO1 Version
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>>78646324
B26F in EO1
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Which one of you is this
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>>78645161
none of these
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any tips for taking on these fuckers
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>>78647881
Please stop. We don't need this here.
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>>78648118
We don't? I think it's funny.
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>>78648087
Rune Master's Origin Rune and the Sniper's Silver Arrow will do wonders against them. If I don't go all out offensive with them they start to bind/status the hell out of me.
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>>78648447
If I wanted to see idiots from Tumbler, I would go there.
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EOU2 confirmed for November 27 in Japan
That means sometime in 2015 for NA and never for EU
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>>78648447
Any community that gets its kicks acting like retards will eventually be filled with actual retards think they're in good company.
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>>78648819
Oh, okay. Guess you'll have to ignore those posts then.

>>78648896
Not sure why that quote is relevant.
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>>78646324
EO3
fuck this floor, now I don't want to do a +new game because of this one
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>>78649051
Or you can fuck off and stop trying to attract feminists to menstruate all over the general.
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>>78648087
I just kill one at a time so I don't have to celebrate Halloween
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>>78649332
well then i hope your gourd-hunting one or two months from now goes smoothly
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>>78649241
That's not what I'm doing?
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>>78649491
It's exactly what you're doing. Stop it.
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>>78649241
>>78649580
>making fun of people is attracting them
Please chill out. It is a screencap of funny words someone typed on the internet.
And feminists don't actually play games, I think we're safe
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Didn't know these things existed
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>>78649893
Two different people posted their progress in the last thread, lol

Admittedly I'm rather curious to know if there are any others; I'm not interested in models but I never would have expected EO to get this sort of merch
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>>78649893
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>>78649097
I enjoyed that one
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>>78650078
Oh really? I've been living under a rock, that's cool
I didn't expect it either, I assumed it would be minifigs forever
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In Demon Gaze, does Luna (Sol) spawn minions indefinitely?
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Etrian Odyssey Untold damage tier list:

High Tier: Highlander>Ronin=Ricky
Mid Tier: Alchemist>Land>Dark Hunter
Low Tier: Survivalist>Medic>Protector>Hexer>Troubadour
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>>78655074
Is this with or without Grimoires?
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>>78655246
With.
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>>78649097
That was fun compared to the two above it
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>>78655246
I hate grimoires so much
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>>78657329
me too
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>>78657329
Same, fuck grinding.
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>>78655246
Grimoires make the game go around. Action Boost boosts the Alchemist up there way high and since most everything has an elemental weakness. Shit hurts.

Ricky has Action Boost available to her at all times, and those Charged Shots she has out-tiers most other classes. When I learned to ignore Ricochet and went with Charged Shot, and Charged Elemental Shots and stacking STR she exploded with omfgbbqery.

The Highlander.. when you get his boss rotation down he... jesus.

Delayed Charge>Action Boost/Limitless>Spear Assist(even with no elemental weakness, this is still a powerful attack)>Spear Assist>Limitless>(Delayed Charge is on its last Turn)Cross Charge. This destroys bosses
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>>78657329
Yep. Hopefully they're less awful in EOU2.
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>>78657516
I don't even use them. They still drop endlessly and fill up my inventory and I have to delete them one by one AAAAAAAAA
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>>78657714
>Doesn't use grimoires
How?
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>>78657665
But muh Bloody Offense
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>>78657665
mfw killing golem at lvl 30 with a party of protector/medic and 3 alchemist with action boosts in 3 turns
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>>78658040
Because you don't need them. The game is perfectly doable without the grimoire system.
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>>78658040
They kinda suck, and they're a hassle to make anything halfway decent. But if you grind enough you can make miracles happen.
I just didn't use them for >muh pure EO experience
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>>78658128
On Normal, sure.
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>>78658251
On any difficulty, mate. Just cause it takes a while longer to do it doesn't suddenly mean it's impossible.
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>>78658251
...You could beat the original game without them. You can beat the easymode remake without them too.
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I don't like Grimoires, fight me
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>>78658367
But we're agreeing with you. Read the thread. Who are you even trying to bait?
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>>78658321
So I'm assuming you know this from personal experience? You've beaten the entire bame on Expert with no grimoires?

>>78658361
And I know you've never even played Untold, since Expert makes it harder than the original.
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>>78658662
Yup. Optional bosses were a bitch, but I did. I kinda forgot grimoires existed.
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>>78658662
>Expert makes it harder than the original
Maybe if your only experience with the original is running through it once with Immunize.
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>>78658662
Considering that all expert does is change the amount of damage you deal and take, yes. If you use the same level of planning as you have to in every other EO without grimoires, it's perfectly possible. It might be harder because instead of wiping everything out in three turns you might have to take a dozen, but it's certainly doable.
Also, EO1 if you don't use any of the bugged skills is harder than EOU on expert.
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What do you even use grimoires for other than not having to put points in gathering?
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>>78658945
>If you use the same level of planning as you have to in every other EO without grimoires
Minus 4.
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>>78659068
Fun
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>>78659068
starting tired arguments in /eog/
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>>78659068
i just use them with passive skills, like recharge on the highlander
but simon has volt formula and that's handy in the 6th stratum
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>>78650078
Imperial Teach from IV also got one.
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>>78650912
The final boss(it's been some time since I played it)? Yes, Cross Fix that fucker.
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can you ever refight the yggdrasil core in story mode? i didn't get its conditional drop
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>>78660260
yes, after beating it you can fight it normally in the 6th stratum
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>>78660260
yes
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>>78660260
When you finish story mode, THAT is the conditional drop. The item to make the best katana in the game.

When you refight him after finishing strat 6, you just get an item that sells for 1 mill En, used for nothing but money.
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>>78660416
>>78660431
>>78660441
well i mapped the entire last stratum and he's not in the room
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArWXf8-5ZxI This arrangement is very Shin Megami Tensei.
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>>78660534
Go to the back of the room and examine the wall.
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>>78648087
If you have an arcanist, the blue pumpkin doesn't resist dismiss blow/blast.
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>>78660712
oh thanks
i expected a room of writhing tentacles not a pixel hunt, but okay
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>>78660168

After spending the entire day retrying that battle, as I had no assassin, I randomly was capable of defeating it with extreme ease.

It's a hollow feeling but I'm glad it's over.
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>>78661954
The most annoying thing of that fight is the kidnappings, but that can be avoided with items. Mars can easily handle the minions, so it's a rather easy fight with Astro Force. Well, 90% of the game is really easy even on the highest difficulty...
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Grimrock and M&M X Legacy were pretty crap, I should have listened
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>>78666172
Just get Wizardry if you want something on Steam.
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>>78663341

True that. The only time I ever had trouble so far, ever, was with the last boss.

I didn't even use Mars for the last fight either. It was just randomly super easy.
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>>78658662
>You've beaten the entire bame on Expert with no grimoires?

How is it hard? l bet you're one of these fags ho can't beat the bame without muh action boost, just because they took away immunize it doesn't mean the game somehow harder.
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>>78672269
>bame
you wot m8?
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>The new EO2U is only for the new 3ds
I was just thinking of getting old one. There goes my plan.
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>>78677502
Wait serious?
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>>78677556
There's been no news as far as I can tell that confirms it, so personally I'm calling hearsay.
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>>78677502

Don't tell anyone but there was disscussion about bringing a collection of 1+2 on the vita
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>>78678679
I heard they were developing EO5 as an exclusive launch title for the new WonderSwan Touch
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>>78678679
Some time ago I was on /v/ thread where some guy was saying that EO would be perfectly playable on the Vita because the screen is bigger and touch sensitive, so it could be divided vertically for the map. The possibility that he was being serious when he posted it still scares me.
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>>78678870
I read somewhere that they're thinking of releasing a Pooka pet simulator on the Dreamcast VMU
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>>78679075
I see nothing wrong with this idea
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>>78659773
I thought it wasn't out yet?
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>>78679569
Why would anyone play like that?
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>>78679569
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>>78658662
I only ever bothered with grimoires for the Yggdrasil Core, and that was mainly for Wolf Pack to make things go more quickly.

>>78679569
The only thing I could think of is if you have a little tab in the corner that you can swipe up to bring up a translucent map overlay on top of the regular view. The only problem is that you'd have much less precision with your fingers, and I doubt they'd pull a Kid Icarus Uprising and package each game with a capacitive stylus.
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>>78680168
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So dungeon Crawler General, have you tried Megami Tensei in KMT yet?
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>>78683638

Beat MT1 and am going through MT2.

Fuck hunting for those Solomon Pillar things.
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>>78683785
I'm only half way though MT1 I just beat Loki.
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Dead until EOU2
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>>78686316
Black zodiac>blonde zodiac
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>>78686484
I'm going to have to diagnose you with a terminal case of shit taste
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>>78686621
Marisa clone a shit.
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Let me ask you a question guys.

Is there any dungeon crawlers that you enjoy more than EO?
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>>78686947
Nope.
Maybe SJ.
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http://www.icewinddale.com/

one of my favorite rpgs is turning into a cheap cash grab. I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>78687378
Mind explaining how? I don't know much about non-dungeon crawlers WRPG's.
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>>78679569

They could do it like Demon Gaze but also allow for touch and/or analog control to place walls and shit.

I would love an EO on the Vita but I just don't see it happening as easily as it is now on the 3DS.
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>>78686947

Nope, this is definitely the most satisfying experience I've had yet
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>>78686947
EO2
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>>78693756
Don't be cheeky fuccboi
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>>78687579

baldur's gate enhanced version got a lot of bugs and problems on release and it seems people didn't like the new content.

Pirate and check IWD out anyway. it's a fantastic dungeon crawler (it has the whole deal of making and editing your own party) with a great atmosphere and Black Isle is dead so no devs are going to lose their job or hate you if you torrent it and shit.
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How do I beat this fucker? I've gotten a game over to him twice. My strategy up until now has been maxing out taunt and damage reduction on my fortress and having my medic spam heals to keep her alive, but I can only interrupt his charging attack maybe half the time, and then he'll randomly decide to use counter and fuck up my whole team. I have a few of my party's weapons forged with arm bind but it never actually arm binds him.
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>>78698786
Do you have a sniper? They're super good for binding and can use squall volley eventually.

If I remember correctly, the counter isn't random, and you should be able to tell when he'll do it (don't take my word for it, though )

It all depends on your party setup. I used
F/D/Ns
M/S
and had an easy time using blind and arm bind, and defending before he used the charge attack.
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>>78698786
Binds? And he counters after every time he gets off his charged move or you interrupt that mood
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>>78699696
Ah ok, I thought so, but wasn't entirely sure. I think just knowing that will help a lot.

>>78699619
Yeah, but I didn't realize how good binding would be and put most of my points into long shot and steel arrow. I have leg bind but would have to grind more to get arm bind. My party is
F/L
S/M/Rm
the runemaster is able to do a ton of damage to him since I have a lot of points into lightning.
Also, I just realized the guild card says max level or something is 15 right now, what does that mean? My people are all 15 but still gaining exp, will they just not be able to go to 16? This is my first EO besides emulating the first one and doing a couple caves
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>>78700245
Since you pit points into something that you didn't like, you can go to the explorer's guild and "rest" your sniper. They'll lose two levels, but your points will be reset and you can spend them on binds.

I don't know a lot about using landies, but I heard that you can use their link skills with a runemaster for massive damage.
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>>78679075
Why would they need to do that 50/50 split? All you need to do is have the back act as a toggle to show it full screen + a drawable minimap on the standard interface.
The bottom screen on the 3ds is bad enough that I'd welcome EO on anything else. Even the minor upgrade going to vita. My phone works leagues better as a digital mapper as long as I'm not concerned with looking like an idiot outside.

Hell, phones/tablets might actually be the best platform for these things now if games weren't doomed to become IAP ridden shit on them.
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>>78702175
It seems kinda silly to draw your own map instead of using auto-map just to use it as a regular mini-map later. I always prefered dungeon crawlers and metroidvanias on 3DS because you can easily view maps, stats and etc without needing to pause the game.
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>>78704007
In EO the bottom screen is only drawable in mini-map mode to begin with.
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>>78706632
But can be used as a complete map without the need to pause he game. Way more convenient.
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New scans are out.

(1/2)
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(2/2)
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>>78699619
>>78699696
>>78701007
Thanks for the help. Respecced my sniper, maxed out arm bind, and tried the fight again. Didn't take a single point of damage.
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>>78711348
>>78711534
Regina mai waifu
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>>78711534
That black haired dude looks insane/mind-broken.
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>>78711534
>Delicious chocolate chef

Welp, I'm on board
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>>78711348
>>78711534
any new information that anyone can translate pls?
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>>78711534
No more King's Grimoire.
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>>78725695
Too lazy. But Regina, the chef, seems to be in charge of your guild house
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>>78711534

Porn when?
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>>78707207
Nothing is stopping you from doing the same thing on bigger screen.
Even better you have the option for full screen map/menu overlays that are touch responsive where it is more convenient instead of only being locked to the small screen in all situations.

The dual screen was pretty good in the ds/psp era for sure. Now not so impressive.
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>>78728941
Different anon here, but I have no idea what kind of benefit you can possibly see. Having played through an entire dungeon crawler (overhead view instead of first-person, admittedly) where the map was laid over the main game area (PMD Rescue Team - it's the default option), having the map cluttering up the main view screen would be an absolutely terrible idea.

Similarly, I really don't see much benefit to moving to a different system, be it Vita or a phone or something, because phone touch screens can be and usually are pretty imprecise since you can't use a pinpointed stylus on it. I dunno about the Vita, personally, but doing some quick Google searches, it looks like its the same case. Not to mention the fact that, yes, trying to squish both the first-person view and the map onto a single screen would be terrible, and putting the map into a pausing menu would defeat the point of the map in the first place. The map being readily accessible and viewable at any point in time is practically the reason EO works so well: you can look and turn around in the dungeon to get your bearings and then try to map by sight, you can track FOEs as you wander around, all without needing to stop and go into a different menu.
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>>78732056
This Anon gets it.
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So I was looking through IGN's QR list of quest codes and I'm noticing a lot of ones on their page that are missing from the /eog/ image I've got in my folders. Would anyone mind if I tried to add the missing ones in or whatever?
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I've been playing EOU as my first game in the series and I'd like some feedback on my current team.
I run R/P on the front line and T/E/H in the back.
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>>78747606
E?

Ronin, Protector - Troubadour, ???, Hexer.
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>>78748884
Sorry, in my head I call the Alchemist Elementalist for some reason.
My fault.
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>>78749071
Well, its a solid team. Troubadours make great healers, you may require items and stuff in the later strata but they make great healers with Healing Lullaby and Echoing Rondo (Echoing works with Food regen as well)
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I felt like getting rid of the text after posting this for whatever reason.
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>>78749573
Neat.
I've been thinking about replacing the Protector with a Dark Hunter for more disabling power.
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>>78749862
I liked it better with the text.
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>>78749940
Protector Defender, Troubadour Shelter Song and Hexer Sapping/Frailty. Binds and such are not really needed with all those buffs and debuffs
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I've been playing the demo for Untold and I'm a bit confused right now. I think it said that the demo would end when I get to level 10 but my character is level 10 and I'm still going. Am I misremembering what it said at the start?
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>>78756332
you just can't progress the story farther than b3f, you can play as much as you want but you can't level higher than 10
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>>78698786

I love how I had a problem with every single FOE prior to this boss, then he was a cakewalk. Thank you based Sand Throw and Arm Bind.
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>>78743596
yes, please, create a picture with the ones that are missing just don't mix the "new" ones with the one that are already in the OP
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Well.. im bored.

EO2 with the cookie cutter Prot/Ronin/WarMagus-Gunner/Hexer
Or EO4 with 3 Bushi/Dancer in the front, Land/Medic and Arcanist/Runemaster in the back
Or EOU with 3 Ronin with a Troubadour and Hexer in the back?
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>>78765934
I want to fuck that fish boy
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>>78765263
Checking on the image in the OP, I had a version that was four days older. The latest one in the OP had two of the missing codes on it, so here's the rest.

Don't get your hopes up, they're not anything special, just item fetch quests. There's another food gathering quest to break it up, at least.
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>>78767767
Also just to clarify I'm pretty sure that all of these except for Perfect Opportunity are only doable once you hit the Sacred Mountains, at least. Unforgettable Peak involves the Underground Lake, so there's the start.
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>>78767767
I'm pretty sure "A lions advantage" is in the OP
but I'm going to check with the game once I get home
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>>78768324
I don't see any lions in the picture, and this is the one I downloaded from the dropbox link.
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>>78608249
The paints I'm using are Testors' brand. If you go to hobby lobby, you can get small 1/4th oz bottles for 1.50 a color. If you do it, I suggest getting the enamels. Also, don't forget thinner. Really, the cost won't be too bad if you're just touching up a few spots.
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>>78770843
lego hands
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>>78770843
Hot glue when
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>>78771215
They're a bitch to paint. They feel like soft vinyl, so they haven't been taking the paints very well. Gotta figure out what the hell to do with them.

>>78771295
If you wanna spend 40 bucks to gum up the joints with man batter, have at it
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>>78765379
DH/R/WM/G/H is way more cookie cutter in 2 than P/R/WM/G/H

I don't know why you keep insisting that the P variant is easier.
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>>78774096
Both are gimmicky, but the P variant at least doesn't depend 100% on binds and Axcela II spam to survive against bosses.
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>>78774559
What are you talking about? By the time that you actually need binds you should be well into Stratum 5/6.

Viper 5 is extremely powerful for its point investment and how easy it is to get. It also hands you two 30k en conditionals.

Hellion shouldn't even live past turn 3 with the DH team since you can just ohko him at 55% hp through Climax 10.

Scylla is a DPS race and Harpuia is a chump.

Colossus isn't so bad thanks to Bash Mists and accessories.

Overlord is fairly easy unless you get unlucky with his reflects.

90% of post game won't live past the time where the first Dominate wears off since the sheer DPS from the combined team is far greater than that of the Protector version.

Do you really believe that you go for Ecstasy first and grind up FP before each and every boss with that team?
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>Just beat 7th Dragon
>8 Dragons remain

God damn, I really don't care to look for them, and at least 1 is a sidequest one.
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Does anyone know a weapons/armour database with the prerequisite sold items for EOU?
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>>78645161
6
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>>78666172
I told you, dawg.
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>>78696287
IWD has issues with difficulty curves. The orcs you fight on the way out of the first time were the hardest battle in the game for me.
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>>78711348
Congratulations!
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>>78696287
>>78778261
Different anon here. I bought the second game a long, long while back and I enjoy it, but honestly I just have a hard time keeping myself playing it for long stretches. I started a team this year and finally stuck with it, got to the village at the end of the first map of Chapter 2 and stopped, then played it a few months ago and got near the end of Chapter 2 and then stopped again. I dunno.

Fun to toy around in, though. Maybe I should restart and make a party based on one of my EO sets, that'd be a funny idea.
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>>78776997
No one?
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>>78776997
This?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/709464-etrian-odyssey-untold-the-millennium-girl/68448774
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>>78782004
I found that, but that only lists the best weapons.
And I need to know what weapons are just 1 tier below top-tier to get the top-tier easier.
Appreciate the effort though.
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I managed to find EO untold in my local games store preowned for next to nothing and I'm very stoked. I'd like to play through on classic first since I never played EO1. I'm looking at Ronin/Protector/Lands Troub and something else in my back line. Are medics important in this one? What else would make this work better?
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>>78782721
Get a DH instead of a LK and an Alchemist in the back row.
Get Defender on your P and after that level your cure/party cure abilities.
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>>78782721
You already have both a protector and a troubadour so medic's pretty pointless. Just make sure you spec your troubadour into healing ASAP.

And try an alchemist or hexer. Alchemist if you're trying to use elemental chases on your land (as you got elemental atks from ronin, and element buff from troubadour). Or get a hexer since you don't have any binds/ailments
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>>78783007
Any other basic tips for this one?
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>>78783098
Spec the DH in either whips for binds or swords for ailments.
I used the whips for the poison attack, the poison gets ridiculously good.
Also, what this guy said.>>78783040
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>>78775201
Until Colossus it's fine, with the exception of maybe Scylla if you get unlucky, but starting with Colossus that party depends increasingly on force skills for consistency against bosses, and by the postgame you're virtually required to open every fight with Riot Gun + Dominate. Not that that doesn't work extremely well, but grinding for force is a pain.
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Don't die
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>>78788680
I want to wear their clothes
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>>78786964
you do realize after colossus thers almost nothing left in the game? even post game thats what 5-6 bosses? and by the time you get to them (thanks to dh easy to get force weapon) your force is full on 1 turn random battles no need to grind for it. not to mention every foe in the game u can just 2 turn by using climax including postgame. protectors are worthless in eo2. complete waste of space in any team.
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Speaking of EO2's postgame, I never want to see another warp tile again.
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>playing EO for the first time, EO4 to be exact
>make an all lolis party because that's the reason im playing this game in the first place
>landsch-whatever, dancer, other girl
>spend hours giving them names
>pick the loli-est designs
>check some sites for good builds and shit
>"classes are 2 boys and 2 girls"
>mfw just now i discovered that the tan blonde landsch-dude with bike shorts is a boy
>i though "she" was the prettiest of my team
>spent half an hour giving "her" a name i liked Minori
>he was my favorite girl
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>>78792223
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>>78792223
Welcome home.
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>>78792223
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>>78792223

People finding out Landshota is a boy never gets old.
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>>78792223
i laugh at you
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>>78792223

Everyone does it, friend, never fear. I legitimately did something similar, made the character and raised it to like level 6 before realizing it had the male stance. Lewd is what it is.
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>>78795959
>Everyone
only if 4 was your first etrian
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WHO'S READY FOR THE INEVITABLE PERSONA Q2 OVERTAKING THE ETRIAN SERIES, MAKING ATLUS INTO EVEN MORE OF A PERSONA FACTORY?

Hopefully that never happens.
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>>78796535
who cares about fucking persona games?
they are not based on Ingmar Bergman film so they are all shit anyway
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>>78767767
>>78768324
In the end "A lions advantage" wasnt in the OP
I did every quest you posted, thanks for delicious experience for my new guild members.

You used "pruning the leaves" quest twice in the picture
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>>78796535
Persona Q is actually the only good Persona game, so a second one wouldn't bother me.
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>>78802194
wow now that's a shitty opinion if I've ever seen one
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Bump for EOU3 exclusive to iOS and Android devices
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>>78810138
>Pay real money to subclass!
>Superbosses too hard? Just pay x amount to weaken them before the fight!
>This game will be released in chapters that must be downloaded separately, be sure to purchase them all!
>Certain classes are free, while others can be unlocked once you purchase them!
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>8 save slots
Jesus Christ, muh dick
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>>78810138
>>78811414
sleep at the Inn cost real money
>>
>>
>>
>EO2 Untold
How terrible do you think the English voices will be?
Do you think dual audio will be supported?
Which loli wud u fug?
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>>78812449
I don't care because I turn them off/play classic
no
the twin tails one
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>>78680115
you have to realize that a 960x544 display can easily accommodate both screens and more. they could even ship the game with a cheap capacitive touchscreen stylus
not sure if I want this though because it would mean there would be nothing for me to play on the 3ds anymore
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>>78812204
>>78812334
Miiverse?
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>>78813026
yes
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>>78812973
>you have to realize that a 960x544 display can easily accommodate both screens
That's an uncomfortable way to play because you'll have to focus your eyes on just one side of the screen. It's as shitty on a PC monitor as it would be on a Vita screen.
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>>78818580
Rotate it into portrait mode?

Easier on the eyes but I don't know how playable it would be.
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>>78818580
it's not ideal but it would be more than playable
you could also make a small mini map on the side and have a blend-in full map layered over the game if you hold L and you'll be able to draw with your other hand (or vice versa if you're left handed)
or something like that anway, I'm sure you can make it work
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>>78819010
See>>78732056
Drawing the maps work on EO because they're always readily avaliable, the same way as a map you drew on graph paper would be.
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>>78786964
>Colossus
Colossus is a joke boss when you throw down a Bash Mist or the all physical damage reduction mist.

Not to mention that you the only time you should be grinding up for FP is when you're hunting for the Dominator which is available since Stratum 4.

After that you'll pretty much always have max FP ready and raring to go for bosses like Salamox.
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dont die
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>>78792223
It's ok anon, he almost got me too You now have a trap fetish btw
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>>78792223
The cool thing about EO is that they're just portraits. You can have them be female if you want
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>>78802194
I'm just worried that Sega will be monetarily cynical, and, seeing how well Q sold for a debut title on hardware lacking a previously-proven install base, will push for more Q and less Etrian.
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>>78812449
Atlus doesn't do dubs if the game doesn't have international online, so at least the audio quality won't be compressed to shit. That said, I hope they don't reuse anyone except maybe Todd Haberkorn, who must've made some easy money being the innkeeper and no one else.
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>>78836286
>He doesn't want Erin Fitzgerald
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>there aren't enough number icons to properly map Misty Ravine

fuck
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>>78836557
I want Erin Fitzgerald never voicing anything again.
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>>78837438
Are you the same anon from before? Said something about her being good if she's got a good voice director but otherwise eh? I looked up a few videos of Untold recently since I'm thinking of getting it and Raquna's lines don't seem bad, but they're kind of... plain. I guess.

I searched her up when it was mentioned but all I found was a list of her anime/non-game roles, and I don't really watch much of that. Anything notable game-wise that she's done? I might have heard her before.
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>>78836286
Crap, meant dual audio, not dubs.

>>78836557
She needs to stay away from Atlus. They clearly don't know how to direct her.

I still think this cast would be pretty good, though:
Matthew Mercer - Fafnir Knight
Kyle Hebert - Bertrand
Flavio - David Vincent
Arianna - Christine Marie Cabanos
Chloe- Cassandra Morris
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>>78825638
>Colossus is a joke boss when you throw down a Bash Mist or the all physical damage reduction mist.
I was only ~50 at the time, but in my experience using a mist makes the fight much harder, because it puts you over the buff limit that makes him use his full-party massive damage and bind attack, and even with the mist's damage reduction, trying to recover from that sort of damage and head bind with a WDR/HG party is a huge gamble. The only somewhat reliable strategy I found was to offload most of the randomness onto the beginning of the fight and retry until the right bind landed before he killed everyone, then Dampen and Revenge until he died.
>Not to mention that you the only time you should be grinding up for FP is when you're hunting for the Dominator which is available since Stratum 4.
Grinding for the Dominator is even worse than grinding for Axcela IIs, though, and plenty of bosses if they feel like it can just kill your DH before Dominate goes off if you don't use Riot Gun with it, because WDR/HG is completely worthless defensively.
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>>78837984
Nah, that's me (>>78838892).

Like I said, she can be great, but the problem is that next to no one knows how to direct her well. If you've played an Atlus game recently, you've definitely heard her. She was new Chie in Persona 4 Golden, the sorceress in Dragon's Crown, Midori in Devil Survivor Overclocked, Erica/Trish in Catherine, Feene in Conception 2, and Naomi in Soul Hackers.

She's been voice acting since 1992, though, so maybe you would recognize her as Nazz or May Kanker from Ed, Edd, n' Eddy?
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>>78840130
Aha, I never played Catherine, but I did watch a playthrough of it, so yeah, I think I remember Erica's voice. I also remember watching a couple P4 videos since a while back I was a little interested in getting into the series, and I didn't quite like it as much as the earlier voice. Not bad, but not as good, I think I thought to myself.

Kind of surprised she worked on Eds, though. Been ages since I even saw an episode.
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So I'm pretty convinced I should put my fortress in the back row.

All he does in the front row is taunt and defend. Sure guard mastery only works in the front row, but he's surviving just fine now.

If I throw him in the back row I can get rid of my Sniper/Bushi and get another front line fighter for more damage.
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>>78644653
>>78792223
how does this make you feel?
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>>78842869
Back row F is great, especially when you get to the point where Weak and Party Shield are useful.
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>>78845113
Yeah at first I thought i'd be missing out due to no Tp recovery and no guard mastery in the front row. But I think I could get more use of throwing him in the back row, ditching my Sniper/Bushi and getting something up front that hits harder.
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>>78846228
Maybe an imperial.

But then again its not like a sniper/bushi is a pushover either.
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Would a sniper using Silver arrow benefit from nightseeker follow trace? Would that make a good sub?
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>>78847321
S/N is pretty bad for damage when S/B exists. The only reason to use it is so you can proc more links with Follow Trace Squall Volleys.
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>>78847321
It would, but only like 25% of the time. Follow Trace is crap even when a nightseeker main. Go Bushi
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>>78849217
Follow Trace with an N main activates over half the time, and even with N sub it has around a 40% chance of activating. N sub doesn't get much damage from it with the lower activation chance and 50% damage reduction, but on an N main with >50% activation and 80% damage it's pretty great, since N's damage output against ailing enemies is insane even before Follow Trace is factored in.
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>>78711534
Bullet, what are you doing in this game?
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>>78851171
That hair is awfully green and un-spiky for Bullet
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>>78840129
Just how hard are you buffing anyway?

The only buffs that should be going off is War Might on the R/DH/G and a mist.

In fact, most of the time you don't even get a chance to buff all three of them since most battles tend to be over fairly quickly.

So that's 7 buffs tops.
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>>78856213
I'm pretty sure the mist alone is enough to make him use that move, which is why the fight is such a pain.
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>>78857067
Actually it isn't.
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do desoulers only wait a couple turns during day time (b23f eou)?
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>>78858229
They stop moving when you look at them.
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>>78858518
oh wow damn, thank you
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>>78857581
I just tested it, and it seems like it actually takes 6 buffs to make him use Mad Rush, so I guess I must have used Warmight as well as a mist.
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an etrian odyssey character of choice will get into smash.
what will their thingy say?
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>>78862050
>Whirlwind storms in!
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Medic
Never gives up

Kupala
Keeps her eyes on the prize

Hexer
Bears her arms

Highlander
AEUEAEUUAGEAUHG
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>>78862050
Raquna gets fired up!
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>>78862050
Depends on who it is. If we go with the Protector, maybe something like "Protector stands her ground!". If we go with the Gunner, then maybe "Gunner takes aim!".

I actually haven't really kept up with the official character taglines, so I dunno if "takes aim" was already used for another character or not, lol
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>>78862050
Highlander kills another series
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>>78862810
You gotta be more creative than "<Verbs> in." Everyone does this and it's silly
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>>78862810
Wouldn't Whirlwind be penetrating the competition?
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>>78863484
at least it's more creative than "x y's the competition!"
makes it go on too long and doesn't roll off the tongue
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Reached the end of the 4th Stratum and about to rest my party to level 49 to reassign skills, finish some quests, and open all locked doors before fighting the bird god.

I've been wondering at this point, which skills are the best to have
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>>78862050
Ricky
Sleeps in!

Arthur
Weaklings get out of his way!

Dark Hunter
Gives Zero Suit Samus a run for her spot!

And I am
Bored of this already
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>>78862050
we already know who is the best character to get in
Formido Oppugnatura Exsequens In!
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>>78863841
i got a shirt with that on it
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>>78862871
>Highlander
>AEUEAEUUAGEAUHG
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>>78863753
The good ones.
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Did you have your daily dose of chocolate today yet /eog/?
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>>78869482
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>>78870034
Ohh, that's one I haven't seen before!
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>>78870034
literally 2 degenerates.
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>>78870625
This Anon has no taste.
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When will the furries leave?
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>>78870625
the fox and wolf are better anyway, i was posting bunny because the pun of chocolate bunny was too good to pass up
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Playing EO for the first time here -- I started with the very first game for the DS by the way.

Just hit 5th stratum, using 2 L's and a T in the front, an M and an S in the back.

My party feels... I don't even know. The L's are fine, but I don't like them. I want to retire, maybe P D M T S instead.

What's the best way of leveling superfast? Internet says treefrogs, but I get what feels like a 10th of a level for killing 30 of them.

Is there a quicker method? I can hold off til a later floor if there is.
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>>78870240
http://96log.ldblog.jp/archives/cat_219903.html

here you go
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>>78863753
Bloody offense, analysis, and action boost could very well be the best skills to have.
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I've been thinking about what team I'll use in EOU2 Classic (since I'll probably do that first), and then I started thinking about grabbing Desmume and a ROM of the original 2, so if I might ask - does L D R, M G sound like a decently balanced team for Heroes of Lagaard?

I'm guessing that you have to unlock Gunners in 2 (since I thought you had to unlock Ronin and Hexers in 1, but U1 seemed to make them available from the start), but regardless, lay it on me, folks.
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>>78877031
>I'm guessing that you have to unlock Gunners in 2
Um
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>>78877132
Hey, if I don't, I'm happy. I just want some quick clarification.
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>>78877279
The answer is no
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>>78877406
Well, neato.

So I guess back to my original question, does Land Dark Ronin, Medic Gunner seem like a decent team? Or should I grab something else instead?
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>>78877031
Beasts were the only thing that needed unlocking in EO2.

>>78877464
Ls were total and complete shit. Highest damage move dealt 260%, compared to an R or G doing like 425% each. A's are pretty horrible too by the way, and T's got nerfed pretty badly.

D's great, R's great, G's great, M's not bad.

You're horribly lacking in buffs. Either drop the L for a T or drop the L, replace the M with a WM, and take a 5th not-shit character.
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>>78877464
If you're playing the original 2, drop the L, since they're booty
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>>78877464
I would replace the L with a T or an H. H if you want to trivialize everything and T if you want to have fun.
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>>78877684
Hmm... so D R T, M G? Sounds alright to me. Thanks!
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>>78876689
Would you take Spear Assist over Delayed Charge + Cross Charge?
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>>78881570
Get both
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>>78879018
You might want to put the T in the back row. They're pretty squishy.
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>>78879018
I might be missing something, but without B, S, or P and with no H to end the fight before turn 13, how can that party survive Begone?
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>>78884870
cpr + phoenix + luck
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>>78884870
G can spam the FUCK out of riot while everyone else feeds her axcela maybe
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Guys, I'm going to be out from the Internet for a week.

I'm going to miss you all explorers
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>>78887541
Don't forget your chocolate!
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Is it just me or is 4chan broken right now?
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>>78862050
Teach sluts her way in!
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>>78873828
Depends. The tree frogs are the safe bet as you can summon them and they kill simple enough without bashing your potential mark.

I've seen the same advice, but I personally ended up using the ants out of straight circumstance (ie: I stumbled into an FOE nest and chewed my way out twenty athropod corpses later).

The real truth is, so long as there's a quick-heal pool around and you've got a decent Medic & Trabadour, you can grind long.

If you're looking for stamina exp spots:

7th floor, area right around the Alarune option boss fight

12th floor - The respawning FOEs or 11th alternatively with the tree frogs

16th floor - walkway leading into 17th floor where the Chimera boss fight and FOE rush resides

24th floor right where the rejuvinating pool resides. Great place to beef up a L/A chaser combo
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>>78901540
>Find manga on this qt3.14
>Seems decent
>only one book translated

Someone know how to pick these things up from Amazon.jp, again? I don't know if they ship non-domestic, and I'd like to nab this and also the Devil Survivor tanks.
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>>78901786
I think you have to use a proxy shipping service.
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>>78902168
Damn. Well, time to hunt one down. To the buyfag page I go.
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>tfw no good stuff of the bike shorts landsknecht

fug mane, i just want my traps
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>>78904109
The redhead, right?

... that's a girl?
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Maids
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ded
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>>78901675
Thanks. Decided to check the thread again just to lurk and I was surprised somebody actually replied to that post.

I'm guessing most people don't bother getting to 70 and retiring on all their characters? +6sp and like +3 of a stat doesn't seem worth it, given how long the grind looks.
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>>78924590
Not a prob. Though I'm just starting out myself, so what I wrote is what ended up working for me. The game thus far (I'm in post-game—think there's only one boss left) doesn't really call for anything as extreme as retiring any/every party member. I retired my Alchemist because I didn't want to just reassign the skill points and figured the extra stats would be worth the exchange (he was about lv50). Everyone else I have on my team (one in each class) is well on their way to 70. It's made the difference, since the Flame and Freeze spells smack harder and I can lead into chaser attacks better (a must on some of the final stratum enemies. fucking crabs).

Really, you can clear the game around Lv50. Just pay attention to your setup, and don't spend sp frivolously. As in, hoard what you have until you need a strategy to kill bosses.

And, truthfully, the strategy you use on the Wyvern should work on everyone else save Manticore and the three great dragons.
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EOIII remake when?
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>>78932378
When the world is ready for the most perfect thing ever
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>>78932751
The innkeeper's voice?
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Reminder that EOU2 is never coming out and will butcher the game, anyway, even if it did.
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>>78904109
>>78904109
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=122372
Try this.
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>>78933297
>butcher the game
EO2 is the worst EO (or the "less best" if you want). I actually think it will improve it a lot.
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>>78933542
>EO2 is the worst
EO2 is the best.
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>>78933542
This. EO II was the game I had the absolute most fun with since I went in blind and picked a great party composition, but going back with different members really highlights how shit and poorly-balanced it is.
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Haven't been in these threads for awhile and just checked that Stranger of Sword City is out.
Anyone playing it?
I'm looking for a comfy experience after I finish EOIV (or even concurrently).
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>>78934056
>Stranger of Sword City
Hasn't it been out for months? With no English release in the works?
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the brown girl is the best shopkeep
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>>78934283
>best shopkeep
How can you pick just one? Abigail was cute as fuck, and the Napier sisters were great in different ways.

Barkeeps too. Shit, this game had such good npcs for having so little plot/dialogue.

Cass > Valerie > Missy.
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>>78933542
Aside from some inexcusably grindy quests required for postgame content, EO2 does a lot of things really well. Contrary to popular belief, the balance is actually pretty amazing; some classes (DH, protector, gunner, hexer) can make the game a cakewalk if you abuse their force skills and hexer's revenge and torpor, but landsknecht and alchemist are basically the only classes that are so bad you're always better off swapping them out for something else that just does their job better (outside of that counter kill on Ur-child that landsknechte can do). Every other class has its own niche and works well in certain party setups with the right accessories and mists, and a few of the typically unused classes are actually quite a bit stronger than the "cookie-cutter" classes outside of force skills. DR/WHG is an amazingly boring party and I am sorry for anyone who hasn't played EO2 with something more fun.

Also, boss grinding in EO2 is great and I will be extremely disappointed if (when) it doesn't return in EOU2.
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>>78938963
Got an example of a fun party? I went in blind and wound up with PDW/GH on my first playthrough.

P and D were my favorites from the first game, but I wanted to try the new classes (hence G and W), and the H just sort of seemed to pair naturally with the W's skills.
The whole game was a freaking breeze since P's pretty much as good as R in terms of damage, and has a much better Force skill for bosses/FoEs.
Also, I was one of the few idiots to actually use a revenge hexer in the FIRST game, when it was overall a far weaker class.

I was thinking of going back and replaying it with an LTW/GG chase party this time, but maybe one of you guys have a better idea.
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EO2 had the most bullshit fight in the series and I'm so sad EOU2 is probably going to remove/nerf it.
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>>78943535
i hope they make a normal level cap system
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>>78943535

Completely destroying something before they destroy you is bad design. I'm glad they're changing it.
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>>78944289
They gave the 3 dragon system to U1 so it's pretty safe to assume U2'll get it too

>>78943535
What stratum is that in?
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>>78944823
never played the original eo1, did they have a stupid level cap system in that?
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>>78945370
The level cap was 70 and could not be raised at all. Retiring still gave bonus SP depending on when you retired.
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>>78945526
so the max level was 70?
wooow
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>>78945624
Expanding on what other guy said, retiring brought you to level 1 no matter when you retire, and you only get +3 to a single attribute, based on the retiree (so an L retiring into an S gets +3 to str, but an S retiring to an L gives +3 agi instead)
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>>78945720
>based on the retiree
Meant retirer, which isn't actually a word. Dude that does the retiring.

Autocorrect.
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>>78944823
Muckdiles in EO2 are (extremely rare encounters) in the sixth stratum even though they're much weaker in every other game, for some reason.
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I'm developing a dungeon crawler with a friend and I've been a little stuck on something.
I want a way to heavily penalize the player for dying without breaking the game.
I see that taking away a substantial amount of money/all money is used a lot, but I don't think our game is going to have any currency as we are removing the entire concept of having a town and the game is taking place entirely in the dungeon.
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>>78950259
Lower max health for x amount of fights, hard capped at up to 50%? Similar to Demon Souls.
Deducting XP is also a thing people do, but I find it soul-crushing. Maybe do it the /tg/ way with "negative levels" that can be removed via item or npcs rather than being straight xp deductions?
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>>78950259
I like >>78950721 idea, but I think it should be done to other stats rather than HP. It's easy to fall on a spiral because you can't really avoid taking damage like in an action game.
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>>78792223
Hey, at least now you won't face a certain fate with tentacles for having only girls in your party.
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>>78944689
/smtg/ says hi and fuck you
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>>78908615
is it true her secret ingredients for her teas are her vagina juices
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>>78956849
I am okay with this.
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>>78956849
Bird milk
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>>78956620
But destroying things before they destroy you works better in SMT because the enemies have lower HP and usually have weaknesses, along with ailments being crippling.
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what is classic mode's final non-post game boss?
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>>78959217
Etreant
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>>78959654
same as story then? I see, thank you
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>>78957992

SMT is hardly like that, unless it's 4 where there's absolutely no defensive stats. Seriously fuck that, it was glass cannons:the game.
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So in EO4 is Runemaster pretty much just an elemental ranged back-row version of the Landshark? One makes the other feel a tad redundant.
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>>78970815
I don't really see how they're similar, like, at all. How did you arrive at that conclusion?
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>>78970815
Lands do more damage if you have the proper linkers, but Runemasters are very very useful to prevent magic damage in the late game.
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>>78970815
Not at all.
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>>78970815
Runemaster is semi support where as Landsnkecht is pure dps with bulk, they work best together. Runemaster lowers enemies' resistance to increase elemental damage and can help get links with the multi hitting Galvanic/Glacier Rune. Certainly not making the other one redundant.
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>>78950259
Make it so they lose one piece of equipment until they kill the thing that killed them. That should light a fire under their ass to fight more aggressively.
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Are there any ripped scripts of the dialog from any of the Etrian Odyssey games?
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>>78978216
Not that I can think of, which is pretty unfortunate. A game like EO could really use it, I think. So much dialogue I missed in 4 on my first go that I never found until my second playthrough.
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>>78978216
I found an incomplete one of EO III just now, but it doesn't look like there's really much for the other ones.
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>>78805365
Well Q has actual dungeon designs for once.
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>>78980073
It's a shame. One of my favorite things to do after hitting a new floor is seeing what the town has to say and listening to the people at the pub.
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>>78980486
I'd love a link to it if possible.
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>>78981074
It was some shit hosted on sendspace that looks to be expired. I guess there really is no ripped dialogue anywhere easily-accessible.

One of you guys should do a new playthrough and transcribe as you go.
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>>78982106
I could do one for III, I guess. I still need to get the true ending.
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>>78982339
That's a great idea. It's something that a lot of people would love to see.
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What's a fun (but not cookie-cutter) party for Lagaard that can do the post-game without abusing Axcelas? Every time I try to build a party without a Hexer and War Magus in it, I miss Cursecut and Torpor too much to stay interested.
Taking the Hexer and choosing not to spec for Revenge feels like I'm purposely gimping myself too much as well.

I was thinking chaser L with a T and a couple of G's for risk*eles,but aside from sounding very tp- and sp-expensive, it feels like replacing the L with a midareba R and taking Ricochet on the gunners would do more damage.

Fucking multipliers in this game, man.
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>>78988582
>A fun (but not cookie-cutter) party for Lagaard that can do the post-game without abusing Axcelas
Want me to go find you the Holy Grail while I'm at it?
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>>78988845
So it's not just me then? I thought I was just an uncreative faggot for not being able to come up with anything actually fun to play.
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hey eog it's been a while.
I am running a
DH
Protector
LS
Hexer
alchemists? (doing it off the top of my head.)
is there anyone I should swap out to better optimize my team? won't get rid of my protector waifu though.
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>>78989172
There are 3 completely different games in the series with those classes dude
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>>78989000
Really, it's more that the balance for 2 is busted, so you either have shit parties that you struggle through the main game with and have no chance of beating postgame, or you can make a D P / G H WM team and kill everything ever.
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>>78989539
forgot to mention my bad.
I am playing EOU
thought I put it in my post. must have been reading in my mind faster than I typed.
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>>78989587
the balancing in EOU2 should fix this.
right?
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>>78989587
That's it exactly. As I posted (much) earlier, I pretty much stumbled blindly into that fucking cookie cutter build (P instead of the typical R though), by taking my 2 favorite portraits from the first game, taking the 2 new classes in the second game, and taking a hexer because it 'felt' good with the WM. It was still a fun game, I just wonder what I missed out on by stumbling onto one of the best parties from the get-go.

Anything else I can think of feels sort of like a chore now, which is why I thought I'd ask /eog/ for suggestions.
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>>78989908
We can only hope.
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WHy is All Guard considered bad in EO2?
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>>78989000
It's hard to find something less fun than "use torpor to trivialize every encounter" and "use riot gun and dominate, then revenge and axcelas on hard bosses". If you want to play without force skills or a hexer, PR/TWG is probably the strongest party. A lot of other attrition parties can do the same thing using the same general strategies as that party, but they will take more turns and more items to do it.
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>>78990413
Because of the mechanics.
At 5/5 All Guard, every hit reduces the chance that it'll work by 32%.
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>>78990413

Because of the way guards work in 2. All the other guards will always block 100% of time, not the case with all guard, there's only a chance it will guard multiple times, even at max
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>>78990594
>>78990612
So, ignore All Guard, take anti-elements until nullify, max out Front Guard, Smite and STR up?
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>>78990912
Take the antis 10/10. Getting them to 8 or 9 gives them a (slim) chance at failing with each subsequent hit.

Also, I never really used Front Guard. Rushed Smite and Str Up, took the antis, maxed out health and tp up. Done.
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>>78990912
You want the anti-elements at level 10; they aren't guaranteed to work until then. 1 (and only 1) point in en garde is also good, and you'll want at least a point in provoke as well (potentially more for early bosses, but by post-game it's essentially useless). Other than that, front and back guard are good at any level for defensive builds, as are smite and STR up if you're going for an offensive build, shield mastery if you have points left in a defensive build, and TP(if you need it)/HP up for any build. I might be forgetting something, but that should be most of the skills you should pay attention to.
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>>78990484
I guess you and I have different definitions of fun, which is fine.

I don't really find it fun to do something in 4 or 5 turns that I've done in 3 before, or spend money/items in fights I never needed to before. That sort of thing.

It feels slow/purposely gimped to me. I'm sure other people mind far less about that sort of thing though.

I'd have enjoyed the game far more if I just hadn't picked a Hexer in my first playthrough, I'm sure. My crews in the first and third game were a bit less cookie-cutter but worked well enough regardless. I just got lucky with my picks in the second one.
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