/smtg/ - Shin Megami Tensei General

I thought the darkness consumed us.

>>78019381
I'm usually pretty good at keeping track of post numbers. My bad.

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If Megaten had an MMO what demon would you "main"?

Omoikane for me.

Reminder that Strange Journey is not and will never be mainline.

>>78019914
But Megaten does have an MMO

>>78019914
I had Morrigan as my main demon in IMAGINE.
Fucking elemental spins.

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>>78019935
That's good since mainline sucks and I don't want SJ tainted by it

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Thank you to everyone helping to make KMT one of the best fan translation projects ever.

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I want to fuck Mirai

Right now fighting the Matador. I heard Pixie+Angel is a good demon but every time I try talking to the Angel she said we are ill suited. Anything I'm doing wrong? I'm level 16 right now (had to grind because demons kept taking all my money and I had to buy the magatamas).

>>78023609
Angel's personality is a bitch, in more than one way.
Patience, summoner.

>>78023609
>Had to grind

You're playing the game wrong.

>>78024009
Alright so it's just her fucking around. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't something I did. Since I just got off SMT1 and didn't know if alignment played a part.

But my team is a bit of a mess and I really need to fix it.
Nozuchi, High Pixie, and Shiisaa (how has the buffs and debuffs).

>>78023609
Just get mooks with Sukukaja and Rakukaja that aren't weak to force

>>78024273
Oh I am sure that's the case. I just found I was always searching for money to give demons and the 4000 for the magatmas really got me. I never felt I needed to grind for the level just the money.

>>78024273

>buying magatamas
>playing the game wrong

Yeah I don't think so

>>78025505
You don't need to grind.

>>78025505
>>78025729
I already said I'm sure I'm playing it wrong. I was just wondering if I was doing something wrong since Angel kept saying no after I did everything.

>>78025970
You don't just give demons everything they want, sometimes it's impossible to get them to join you.

>>78025970

Nocturne has, in my experience, pretty capricious recruitment. Could be worth looking for demons with recruitment/conversation skills when fusing. I'm pretty sure level compared to the demon in question matters as well so all this "you don't need to grind" is just the usual nocturne edgemasters pretending like their favorite game is perfect. Level up if you think you need to.

>>78026495
nocturne is perfect tho

>>78026495
I'm fine without leveling but I'm just annoyed with Angel. She's the only one that seem to hate me and refuse to join. Other demons did this too the first few times but never all the time with her.

>>78026495
>I'm pretty sure level compared to the demon in question matters as well
You gotta be equal level or higher. There are also specific convo skills that have high success rate if you're 10 levels above or below the demon, but that's it AFAIK

By the way, "grinding if you think you need to" and "needing to grind" are different things. You can beat Nocturne by leveling only through mandatory battles, so you don't need to grind in the most literal meaning

>>78026495
You don't need to grind in any SMT game, what kind of casual shit are you?

>>78026794
law demons are dicks.

>>78026794
Try never giving items in negotiations. I tried it briefly and seemed to work way better than just giving everything

>>78026916

here's a response validating your attempt at trolling

>>78027087
>Trolling

I'm sorry your bad at video games, but don't try to act like how retarded you are is standard.

>>78026916
>fighting fiends in any game besides nocturne
>performing the same action again and again and again

you do know what grinding means right?

>>78027258
You think grinding is walking from one zone to another and fighting random fights on the way?

>>78027339
You guessed it! Welcome to video games.

>>78027431
That's not grinding, grinding is walking in circles in the same place to kill the same enemy over and over because it gives you more xp.

Thanks for proving you are retarded though.

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>>78027519
>doing the same set of actions repeatedly for an objective.

Like fiend hunting. It's okay to admit you're wrong.

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Oh boy here we go. Instead of taking about stupid shit for the next few hours let's talk about things you're excited for. Is it possible we'll see SMTxFE at TGS?

>>78027857

Fuck off, this is shitposting general and we're not going to talk about anything you think is fun.

>>78027857
>Is it possible we'll see SMTxFE at TGS?

No, they want to dedicate the entire time to P5

>>78027754
Pressing buttons is grinding, by your logic

>>78027980
nice slippery slope, nerdlord. Not all grinding is done for exp as you would know if this wasn't your first day playing video games.

>>78027857
I'm excited for imminent Ultimax spoilers

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Anyone has high (or semi-high) quality pics of different Zoma forms?
Been playing SH lately and I find the idea pretty neat. Shame there's no reason to ever bring them back.

>>78028070
>Thinks walking from one place to progress the storyline is grinding
>Give an example and you take it as the only thing I'm talking about

Anon, you are retarded, just give up.

>>78028070
Look, what you're trying to tell me here that fighting optional bosses, fight with each one being a different experience, is somehow grinding
What is your malfunction?

>>78028208
>thinks he has reading comprehension skills
>completely fucking missed the point where I said besides nocturne

Or, you just think the fiend fights are always mandatory because you don't even play SMT and you're just a shitposter. Either is equally likely.

>>78028375
>Grinds in SMT games

It's okay to be retarded sometimes, but you should try to stop.

>>78028519
nice circular argument, shitposter

>>78028279
you don't even know how to find the fiends in SMT games besides nocturne do you. I bet you don't even play SMT. Did some of the /pg/ shitposters migrate here because they couldn't handle each other anymore? Feel free to go back.

>>78028667
>Types like a retard
>Expects to be taken seriously

>>78028667
Nice baseless assumptions, retard. Now you can fuck right off

>>78028792
then tell me how to find the fiends, shitposter. Prove me wrong. And try not to use the wiki like I know you have to.

>>78028731
>oh god I realized I'm wrong about what grinding is, quick damage control damage control damage control!

>>78028969
>Grinding is apparently finding fiends now
>Grinding is walking from zone to zone fighting monsters on the way

You are retarded

>Instead of having an actual argument you attack "you haven't even played SMt games"

What cesspool did you come from?

>>78029242
>still won't say he knows how to even find fiends in the first place

Again, it's okay to admit you're wrong. But you won't because you're a shitposter.

>>78029405
>Still won't admit his stupid comment about walking from zone to zone is grinding
>Continues to ignore it

Shitposter please.

>>78029463

walking from zone to zone is grinding sperglord depending on the purpose of walking from zone to zone. That's painfully apparent to everyone but you.

>>78029607
>walking from zone to zone is grinding sperglord

So you admit to being retarded, thank you.

>>78029798

So you admit to being a /pg/ shitter who is only here to shitpost, and you don't even know how to find the fiends in a proper SMT game. Good to know.

>>78028203
As long as there are mad scientists there will always be a reason to bring them back.

>>78029895
>S-somebody points out what I said is retarded, h-he must be from /pg/

Shitposter please go.

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Whose dick would I have to suck to find out what Kaneko is up to?

>>78029958

more like you misquote and pull things out of context, not out of malice, but because you literally lack the reading comprehension to follow a conversation.

and that's why you're a /pg/ shitter, even if you've never been there in your life. You should go there though, you'll fit right in!

>>78030237
>>78029908

Fuck off, this is shitposting general, nobody gives a shit what you're talking about.

>>78030245
>M-my statement is retarded, b-but so are you!

>>78030550

who are you quoting?

>>78029908
Yeah, but I thought rather that there's no reason unless a game would have mechanics similar to SH (magnetite cost per step or loyalty) or something else to differentiate them from regular demons and give players incentive to actually (f)use them.

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>>78030415
Well ok then, see you later.

>>78030715
Your ideas are retarded and you should leave.

Holy shit what do you care if someone grinds in an RPG or not. Just play the way you want to, why does it matter what someone else does

>>78031075

Fuck off casual scum, LOL you grind in nocturne what a fucking baby god I bet you can't even wipe your own ass without grinding 20 farts first.

>>78031153
I've never even played Nocturne. Do you think I'm the same guy?

>>78031280

All I know is you're casual trash. This thread is for the hardcore only. People with SKILL.

>>78031280
Just some guy who got blasted because he thinks grinding is walking from zone to zone.

>>78031280
I bet you never played any SMT. gb2/pg/, shitposter

>>78030808
Yeah, no can do.

>>78031379
I've played more SMT than Persona, also /pg/ was pretty rude when I went there so I don't anymore

Ok SMTG doing another run of SMT4 what build should I do?

>>78031486
>can't even handle a rude general

well casual trash you won't like this one either because this is shitpost city.

>>78031496
wurld of luck

>>78031280
I'm the guy that asked about the Angel. Sorry everyone for bring the general down for asking a stupid question.

>>78031496

>using stats

WOW look at this grinder, so fucking awful, what a degenerate.

>>78030715
They were created to see if humans could make demons.

They can. Even the Ancient Zoma seen in the first Devil Summoner were created by Inarunna's people. As long as there are people like Dr. Thrill or Victor there will be Zoma.

>>78031496
Guns-a-blazin

>>78031576
By rude I meant they spoiled stuff intentionally when I asked a question

>>78031746
It wasn't a stupid question there's just a lot of shitposters with nothing to do today

Now I hate to ask this now the thread went to shit. But playing Nocturne right now. I'm not at the compendium yet and just wondering if I get rid of a demon will it still be registered or do I have to talk to the guy with all the demons?

>>78031746

>for asking a stupid question

You idiot, if you let the nocturne edgemasters win, the whole thread goes to shit. Feel free to question anything in that mediocre game.

>>78028203
Is it possible to resummon Zeed from the Compendium in NG+? Every time I try, it tells me I already have a Dolly Kadmon or Zoma on hand. I just want my buddy back...

>>78031496
Luck

>>78031934
yeah it'll be registered

>>78031938
>Arguing on the internet
Naw let him win. I got the Angel finally but seem I have to be 18 to actually fuse it with Pixie. Unless there is a better demon at a lower level.

>>78031934

>using demons
>grinding compendium completion

god what a fucking casual, get good.

>>78031942
Fuse any zoma and then dismiss it.

>>78032118
Any demons with sukukaja and rakukaja and not weak to force will suffice, I'm telling you

>>78032374
Well I'm looking for Preta for Sukukaja and seems Angel gets Rakukaja.

>>78032658
>Well I'm looking for Preta for Sukukaja
Weak to magic and too low level, he'll get wiped right the fuck out
Try Aquanis. You can buy him in gem store, and he's Lv 16

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>>78032191
Thank you!

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jiminez...please no, i liked you

put the chaos tack down
this fucker won't die and i don't want to grind two levels for rangda, shoulda kept doppleganger

alice pls

>>78031979
>>78031649
>>78031783
So how much luck per level in a luck build? Any remaining will be put into Ag and Dx.

Guys, why would I ever want to revert to human in Digital Devil Saga battles?

How does the ammo work? Is it an equipable or an actually depleting resource I need to refill?

Is the eating of enemies implied or do I actually have to use the devour attack for something?

>>78033073
5 luck per level

cmon man

>>78033041

If I recall he's pretty bad about buff/debuff clearing Slap him with a debilitate or four.

>>78033274

Reverting to human does mean they won't have elemental weaknesses and with level appropriate ammo guns can do... alright damage. And some things are weak to gun. Speaking of, omoikane is weak to gun so most strategies for killing those usually involve having one or two people revert. It also increases the chance they'll flee so others swear by not reverting at all.

>>78032785
Or he could just fuse Preta with something else and have Sukukaja be inherited.

>>78033284
Okay. Sounds good.

>>78033517
post results

>>78033274
Play the game nigga. It explains all of that

>>78033274
To null Expel attacks, usually from Horus.

Look at the prices and tell me you think they deplete.

It's implied, but using the devour skills will net you even more AP.

>>78033274
>>Is the eating of enemies implied or do I actually have to use the devour attack for something?
It is implied, that's why you get a little Atma at the end of battles. But if you use a devour attack you get a bunch more (just for that character, unless you have a passive skill to share it).

>>78033492
Or that
I forget fusion is a thing
Although Preta is kinda hard to get, and I think he doesn't get Sukukaja right away, unlike Aquanis

>>78033663
>>78033274

I'd also like to point out the devour skill has to be the attack that kills the enemy. Can't open with devour and then bufu it to death, for example. The character who gets the finishing blow with a devour skill will be the one who gets the big atma bonus.

Thanks for the DDS answers guys.

>>78033274
Demon forms cost a large amount of magnetite to survive. Even moreso than humans who also require a large amount of magnetite. Unless you had a constant and steady supply of people to eat you'll go mad eventually.

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>>78034803
It'd be really crazy if magnetite was a thing in that game.

>>78035049
>there will never be mastema flavored ice cream

>>78035049

>is that... mastema ice cream at the bottom? What the fuck?

>>78035049
It is. The lady devices in the Karma Temple explains that everything is composed of magnetite and everything needs it to survive. From the rocks to the beasts. Humans and demons need it more than anyone else and that's why demons have to eat people.

>>78035181
Good, it would probably taste very bad
>>78035249
I meant as a game mechanic.

>>78035413
Oops, second one meant for >>78035301

is there any possible way alpeh can solo YHVH

>>78035657
I didn't realize that's what you meant.

>>78035249
Yeah, from top to bottom, Jack Frost, Blob, Black Frost, Slime and Mastema.

>>78033041
Just finished my law playthrough today. Jimenez was a joke. All he did was cancel out my debilitates as I wailed on him and only actually bothered to attack me once in about seven turns

>>78027087
Try getting good you faggotron

>>78033771
Guess I'll just get Aquanis. Thanks.

>>78031887
Adachi dies you faggot

>>78038776
Adachi doesn't die, stop giving out false spoilers.

>>78039069
Ok fine, you kill your friends and fuck Izanami's cold, rotting skeleton pussy.

>>78039171
I wish that was true.

>>78039171

>skeleton pussy

Anon, skeletons can only have boners.

So obviously you fuck izanami's cold, rotting skeleton boner.

>>78026916
have u even smt1 with best gear, faggot?

>>78043074

As was established during the Dark Ages of Shitposting, that particular poster wasn't even aware of how to locate the fiends in games that weren't nocturne, so I think it's to say they have not smt1 with best gear.

>>78043074
I can't understand you, what are you trying to say?

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HEY GUYS NEWFAG HERE

I really wanted to get into SMT because I'm kind of burned out on most other JRPGs these days, so I went balls-deep and got a shit-ton of the games.

>Nocturne
>The DDS games
>The Raidou Kuzunoha games
>SMTIV
>Strange Journey's on its way

I've played only a little bit of Nocturne (up to Matador) and it's seriously still one of the best JRPGs I've ever played.

What am I in for with this series?

>>78043318
?????????

>>78044951
Hours and Hours of sitting at the fusion screen trying to get the right combination of skills, or sitting at the mantra screen trying to figure out what path to take

Nocturne is the best representation of everything the series has to offer

DDS is like a SMT made for westerners weened on Final Fantasy

Haven't played Raidou

SMTIV is has some hardcore RPG exploring almost to a fault, but it is one of the most populated Japan's in a SMT

Strange Journey's mazes will make you pull your hair out and it has the most unique setting for a SMT

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>>78044951
- More challenging gameplay than most JRPGs (this doesn't mean that they're unfair hard or anything like that).
- Suffering
- Cute demon girls
- Dead friends
- Suffering
- Autism in fusions
- Gloriously painful dungeons in some games (SNES games, Strange Journey)
- Suffering

I think I'm just going to draw my own maps for KMT.

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>>78046839
This reminds me how hilariously easy it is to modify the 'global' map of KMT1.
Given a few minutes I could reshape Daedalus like a dick.

>>78046839
It's the best way to play

>>78047042
Do it. Or make it say fuck you or something.

>>78046839
I was going to put English makes, but I figured there'd only be interested for KMT2.

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>>78046329
Is it just me, or does Nadja look kinda like a younger Lilim?

Which games should I get? I have a $16 spending limit
>Nocturne - 7.99
>SMT Devil Summoner 1 Radio Kazvs - 3.99
>SMT Devil Summoner 2 Radio Kazvs - 3.99
SMT Digital Devil Saga 1 - 7.99
SMT Digital Devil Saga 2 - 7.99

>>78053226
If you're just getting into SMT, either Nocturne or both DDS games together.

>>78053607
This isn't my first SMT. I've played
>Persona 2 IS and 4 Golden
And that's it.

>>78053780
Then Nocturne or both DDS games together. My favorite game is Nocturne, but, choose whatever you think you'd like. DDS has no demon fusion.

>>78053867
I think I'll go with Nocturne and Devil Summoner then. 3 games versus 2 games. more bang for my buck

>>78053983
My personal opinion is to jump straight to Devil Summoner 2.

It's the better game and sums up 1 in a pretty good way.

>>78054521
Alright

>>78053983
Just avoid getting the demon ending in Nocturne.

If you think you're gonna get it complete the labyrinth

>>78054680
>avoid getting TDE
Why?

>>78054728
Demon ending =/= TDE ending.

>>78054680
You should actually go for TDE, complete the Labyrinth of Amala before entering the last dungeon. Has the most content out of any of the endings.

>>78054890
Neutral,Reason or TDE.

Any is acceptable.

>>78054825
That anon said don't complete the labyrinth, and that's how you get TDE.

>>78055061
You should reread that post.

>>78056035
Oh, I did misread. My bad.

>>78054728
>>78054825
>>78054890
>>78055024
I actually don't like TDE that much.

I mean, yeah, awesome skill and boss fight, but I didn't like the ending itself.

>>78056586
Every ending in Nocturne is kinda bad.

why does devil summoner 1 get s much hate

>>78059410
no one has played ds 1 you damn casual

>>78060515
I think he means Raidou 1

>>78059410
You mean the Raidou game?

It just doesn't play very well, and has a lot of the typical SMT features stripped out. Raidou 2 was an enormous improvement in every way.

>>78060880
I know he does.

How many cases are in Raidou 1?

>>78064072
Episodes you mean? 12.

Why don't SMT games have PvP?

>>78067181
megidolaon

>>78067181
Because mages 9999 and one-shot everything in IMAGINE's shitty PvP. Seriously, it was the most unbalanced thing I've ever seer.

You can't make PvP in SMT. There's no fun in just having some passive resistance skills and strong shit like Megidolaon.

>>78067181
It would be cool, but there are demons that just outclass every other. Every team would be Metatron/Beelzebub/Shiva or something along those lines. Same with moves, everyone would repel everything and carry Megidolaon. There isn't really enough diversity in what demons are capable of to make balanced PvP like in Pokemon (well, somewhat balanced, depends on your opinion of Pokemon PvP).

>>78067181

Debilitateragnarokmindchargemegidolaonlastwordgodslayer

dent just fucking count to 30 already

>>78068151
Heheh. If you think about it, it has a very logic and perfect solution.
It's all about math!

Anybody have that fanart of Chaos Hero's death, with him saying "No, it was a good dream"?

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>>78068451
;_;

>>78068510
SMT1 had some of the best party members. I actually felt that they were Hero's friends and they were pretty cool guys, so it sucked to have to kill them.

>>78068510
Thanks, it wasn't on the booru.

>>78068591
SJ 'heroes' are more developed but they just felt like mere coworkers that you didn't have any special attachment to.

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>playing DDS for the first time
>Jinana's suit and ass tatoo
>get boner
> realize Jinana has the same voice as Major from Ghost in a Shell and Naoto from P4 Animation
>[boner intensifies]

>>78068721
Exactly. SMT1's party members are in the exact same situation as Hero for a lot of the game. It makes it easy to sympathize with them and gives the party good chemistry.

>>78068836

Argilla pls

>>78068914
It'd be nice if we got to explore Walter's village in SMTIV and got some more backstory on Jonathan too. Flesh them out a bit more. We only really got vague hints about why they fight, like Walter being afraid of fish but being forced to be a fisherman because of the caste system.

>>78069282
That can't seriously be his motivation for fighting demons.

>>78069038
What's an agrilla

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>>78069340

>>78069282
>get born poor
>fuck the establishment

>get born privileged
>let's maintain status quo

What is there to understand?

>>78068591
i love them so much, and i have no reason to ;_;

>>78069327
That's not his motivation for fighting demons, it's just one of the reasons why he's glad he became a Samurai, because he hated not having a choice, and part of his reason for being chaos aligned.

>>78069483
seriously, is he a namefag, a character in DDS?

>>78069761
Me too, anon ;____;

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>>78069819

>>78069038
>>78070019
So umm, do they really have umm, feelings in the game?

Have artist explored this topic thoroughly?

I really hope I'm not forced to turn on her now.

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>>78070019

>>78070185
naw argilla is all about roland

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>>78070185
Keep playing and find out.

I don't care much for DDS but it definitely had some of the best girls

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>>78070498

>>78070185
I wish that you eventually had to betray them to survive in the junkyard, it'd be a lot more fitting for the atmosphere.In fact, i wish DDS1 focused more on the whole junkyard tribe wars and left most of the Matrix stuff for DDS2.

>>78070634
I don't want to read that anon, why must you tempt me?

>>78070708
Don't worry, that spoiler is not about Jinana.
But this one is she dies.

>>78070604
holy fuck those hands

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>>78070708
Just play anon. Just play.

>>78070498
Gale is pretty great, yeah.

>>78070884
Wut

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>>78071001

We should have a game of the month type of thing. Like a book club. It would spur on conversation and SMT is big enough series to keep that going for a while.

>>78071363
I'd try it

>>78071363
I just got Devil Survivor Overclocked and was just wondering what stats I should focus on? And what do you keep on NG+?

>>78071363
Only if we start with Jack Bros.

>>78071862
Sorry didn't mean to link.

>>78071952
Maybe we could leave a strawpoll in the OP and whatever is winning by September 1st will be the first game of the month.

It would all depend on the next OP letting everyone know though

>>78071862
Either of the attack stats.

When you start NG+, you choose what you want to keep. You spend points to decide what to carry over, you obviously won't have enough points to carry over everything the first time

>>78071862
Magic and Agility. You want the main character to spam Holy Dance late game. Don't worry about NG+ yet. You'll find out when you get there.

>>78072132
Not a bad idea, we've always had the best discussion when everyone is playing the same game

Might be hard for newcomers to the thread though

>>78072203
>>78072207
Alright I'll go Mag/Agility. Should I put points in anything else just in case or focus purely on those two?

>>78072296
I guess we would have to be a little more sensitive to spoilers, but I mean a month is long enough where people should be able to jump in even after the 1st or 2nd week.

Also we wouldn't go through all the games so fast.

>>78072414
Judge for yourself if you think you're falling behind on health/defense to get Vit

>>78073068
Alright. Thanks.

>>78073150
You can always compensate with defensive abilities and such, too

>>78073068
Don't put a single point in Vit until way, way late game. It scales to level so you get more HP per point.

>>78073232
So how do you learn abilities?

>>78073467
There's a tutorial. Seriously, Anon? You want me to play it for you?

>>78073467
Just play the game. You don't need us to hold your hand.

>>78073467
I didn't realize you could assign learned abilities to party members until I picked my ending.

>>78071363
you mean like has happened with kmt

>>78074645
Yes actually. That's what gave me the idea. It's just too bad more people didn't jump into KMT.

Maybe if it is at the top of the OP though, and a game that is voted on, more people will join in.

>>78074865
We really should update the guide to include KMT. And maybe a link to the first two books if they want the complete back story of MT1.

>>78068591
I'd like to experience it, but whenever I see someone ask if SMT1 is a good game they get endless replies saying that most people wont even bother finishing it.

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>>78071001
Gale is best girl.

>>78077504
Don't feel ashamed to use a guide. If it was released when we were kids we would be asking our friends and buying Nintendo Pwers anyway.

>>78077504
It's tough to get through, but that's mostly because it's unrefined from being the first in the series. The fusion isn't as good as later games, the dungeons are just ok, and the encounter rate is unreal at some points. I think it has really good characters and a great story though, so if you can slog through the rougher parts it's worth a playthrough.

What the hell should I use against Snappy? Nothing I have can scratch him right now, and Gur's the only demon I can fuse that seems useful.

>>78078551
Magic

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>>78078551

>>78078551
Git gud you nigger. He's a liar, right? Figure it out.

>>78077770
That's true, and I'll take that advice to heart. Thank you.
>>78077941
I feel like I can dig it. I've never been one to complain and drop a game because of little annoyances like that.

What platform would you recommend to pick up SMT1 and SMT2 for?

>>78078947
The iOS version is fine but if you don't have an iPhone you can emulate, there's a translation patch for it

>>78078947
Emulate the SNES versions with the patches
or get the iOS version of SMT1

>>78078947
You just have to be patient. Play SMT 1 on iOS since it's the official release and all. Plus it has the Visionary Items that give more backstory and stuff from the GBA version, which aren't included in the SNES version.

SMT2 is only available in English on the SNES.

Has Atlus USA said anything about SMT1 on Android?

>>78079020
>>78079102
>>78079128
Alright, thanks a lot. I appreciate the help.

>>78079232
They said there's a better chance of getting SMT2 translated on iOS than there is of getting the Android version of SMT1 translated.

>>78079290
No problem. Have fun!

I would post an SMT1 image to inspire you but I haven't transferred my folder from my other computer yet

>>78078551
Just keep attacking, after a while he'll run out of magic and be unable to do anything to you anyway.

>>78079327
I just don't understand. They already have an Android version in Japanese, they already have an English script. Why not?

They should know their fanbase is more counter culture and less likely to have an iOS device. The cheapest iPad is $250 and iPod Touch's are only 4".

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>>78078864
>>78078682
>>78078598
Well that was certainly an interesting fight.

>>78079327
Is there any word on SMT 2 coming over here? I don't really know how 1 did but I'm enjoying it even if it's a bit dated in the mechanics.

Is SMT1 compatiable on iPad1?

>>78081141
Yeah, why not?

>>78081257
I have no idea what devices have what versions of iOS. I've never had an iDevice.

I see a Gen 1 iPad for $80 though.

>>78081465
It's not worth it for 1 $8 game anon.

>>78081465
Just emulate it.

>>78081465
Me either, but I thought I saw a dude playing it on the iPad in some japanese SMT4 promo. I don't know what "number" of iPad that was.

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>tfw can't pay internet bill and it might get turned off any day now so download any entry in the series that is in English and able to be emulated to survive the drought

>>78084225
Better download a lot of porn.

>>78084225

Here. You'll need some porn.

http://www.twinksporntube.net/gallery/-femboy-fuck-with-boyfriend/index.html#.U_wSpqN61zd

>>78084439
>>78084619
I've always been an imagination type of guy

>>78084439
>there are people who don't have digital archives of all their porn
Horrifying.

>>78084963
>digital archives
>implying that's good enough
>not printing it all out (in flipbook form in the case of videos)

>>78085175

>printing it out on flipbook.
>not having it in 3d form that's capable of making new porn and has a built in personality and is made of human flesh.

oh, wait.

I was watching someone stream KMT the other day and they had a mini map. Is that just for MT2 or do I have to pick up a map in MT1?

>>78085268
Sexbots aren't that advanced yet.

>>78085268
>made of human flesh.
Not all of us have sick fetishes like you, anon.

I can't find any KMT guides that are actually strategy guides and not translation stuff.

>tfw Orden will never reply how the fuck did he manage to get custom music into P1P

>>78085278
Use Mappara, the girl has it.

>>78086447
Thank you anon.

>>78086530
Also, if you were the guy who watched me stream, sorry it was boring as fuck.

Secret Events in Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei:

Obtaining Hinokagutsuchi - Once you defeat or ally with Lucifer (Ed's note: actually seems to trigger when you create the Orb of Hope), return to the spot where you found the Nihil sword from the statue in Ueno. The sword should then be there.

Jack Frost, Jr. - Go to a room with an empty treasure chest, then take one step outside, and then push Down on the control pad 31 times, and then re-enter the room. He will ask if you know his Mama, so say yes. You will receive $3000, 3000 MAG and 10,000 EXP. After this, you can encounter a Jack o'Lantern in the area outside Bael's Castle and talk to him. Doing so should trigger an extra message and will let you find Jack Frost, Jr. one more time.

Susanoo - When the Girl gets captured by Astaroth in the Forest, enter the cave to the north and find the area where it says "You see traces of someone having been here." There should be a girl there who asks to join you, so say Yes. Make sure you have a spot in your party. If you refuse or don't have a spot free, this event will not occur again.

Rag's Shop Member's Card - In MT1, if you enter Rag's Shop more than twice, you'll receive a Member's Card. If you beat MT1 and then exit the Devil Buster game on MT2, you can talk to the boy in the shelter and he'll give you the card. Take the card to Rag's Shop and you'll trade it in for a Heidrun, which restores all HP, MP and removes any status except DEAD.

Izanami's Robe - In MT1 in Mazurka, you can find a Silk Thread item that you can take to Izanami. If you continue on to MT2 and meet Izanami in Belial's Castle, she will give you Izanami's Robe.

Who the fuck just tried posting a huge runon paragraph about devil survivor and then deleted it twice.

>>78086862
The 4 Gods - Play MT2 from a MT1 cleared save, and when you reach Bael, destroy the frog. After that, rooms where you saw a message saying "A stagnant air is flowing here" will teleport you to a new map. In here, spots where you run into Green Slimes are places where you have a chance to meet a special Deity demon. They are Artemis, Leto, and Apollo. If you collect all 3 and then fuse them together, you will receive Deity Zeus.

Jack Frost's Mama and Papa - Play a MT2 game from a MT1 cleared save, and collect the Heidrun. Then obtain a "Fallen Angel Wing" from the Code Breaker game in Bael's Castle. Then trigger the event with Jack Frost, Jr. After that, if you go to a Cathedral of Shadows, Papa will appear and give you Bai Long, Kali and Qing Long. Once you beat MT2 and return to the shelter, go see the nurse and Mama will appear and introduce you to the 4 hidden gods.

Mountain of Trash - Play MT2 from a MT1 cleared save, destroy Bael as a frog, and do not get Hinokagutsuchi. If these conditions are met, you can go to B2F of Ginza and find the mountain of trash. Searching it will give you $5000 and 2000 MAG, and then a crystal ball will appear in the back. Answer Yes when it asks if you'll touch it. You'll be warped to a new map with a lot of high level enemies. You can escape by finding the room with the elder. If you go to the mountain before fulfilling those 3 conditions or answer No when asked to touch the crystal, it will not reappear and you will not be able to warp.

>>78086590
It was cool. I'm sorry you wiped those couple of times.

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Can we talk about DeSuOC? this game has an absurd amount of depth for what it is, and has really compelled me to come back to it time and again. One of the things which is most astounding to me is that characters who I truly despised began to really come into their own depending on the route you take. Midori, for example, is, at first glance, a completely insufferable individual who seemingly applies little to no thought to her actions and is as a result a seemingly shallow character with little to offer. However, as the story unfolds, depending on how you side with her, she becomes really easy to relate to - in the fight with Kaido and Keisuke, when she shouts down Keisuke for "pushing his ideas on people," she highlights both her own hypocrisy but also the incredible strength of will she has to defend her concept of legitimate justice, in the face of Keisuke's notion of violent retribution. Never had I actually felt so bad about leaving such an insufferable character behind before - prior to the fight I'd been looking forward to it, but it hurt to know I'd be doing her wrong. In one of my subsequent re-plays, finding out her backstory and becoming closer with her actually even tamed her violently stupid outbursts. A lot of people say that characters in this game lack depth and/or an arc, but I don't believe that to be true at all, except for perhaps Yuzu, whose primary motivation of escape is constantly on you. People say this is a flaw of her design, but I actually think it's brilliant - if you didn't have someone who relied on you constantly questioning escape, the player wouldn't really perceive then world as a threatening place, and the deathclock would seem trivial - because Yuzu is constantly pushing to leave, you've got actually investment in the notion, helping craft a more immersive experience. This is perhaps my favorite SMT title behind SMT4 anyone got anything else to say about DeSuOC? let's duke it out.

>>78087151

Third time's a charm.

>>78086978
Eh, you just started, right? Don't worry about dying, you just lose half your money.

Unless you need to buy gear, or save for summoning, I haven't been too careful. But I'm not that far yet. So this might not hold out long game.

Keep a Cerberus, even if it means fusing him, and going to find another. This is because he has revive spell, which works out to be cheaper vs. using the healer. It was costing ~400 to revive mine, and I think Cerberus gets 2 or 3 casts (it's not guaranteed to work though). You can heal his MP for probably under 100. So even if it doesn't work the first time, you can just keep healing his MP.

OH, also, using the revive spell heals the targets HP/MP, so sometimes it's better to let Yumiko die.

>>78087151
I really liked it. Just finished the Naoya route, only have Amane and Atsuro to go. I really can't imagine this game feeling complete without the 8th day routes. It's a little difficult to go back to it right now, because I'm doing a blind run of Nocturne.

>>78087151
SMT IV is my favorite too.

My only problem with DeSuOC is how long it takes to get shit done. It's too fucking slow with the enemy movement and stuff. If they ever get around to a 3rd one I hope they take a few pages out of Fire Emblem Awakening's book.

>>78087683
Technically they are making a third one

Break Record when

I know I'm being autistic here but would the KMT translation work on a repro cart on an actual Super Nintendo?

Is there seriously no save point before the Minotaur in Daedalus?

>>78089471
I don't think so

>>78089471
have you considered gitting gud?

>>78089684
I-I don't want to collect macca again if I get killed by Minotaur

>>78089005
SMT1 with English patch worked on my flashcart

>>78089725
Go back upstairs and save then. By the time I fought Minotaur, I already had the whole thing memorized.

>>78091230
I went back upstairs by talking to the one dude in Valhalla. My team is getting shit on pretty hard right now. I'm going to assume his weakness is Bufu spells, but I'm not sure which demons have Bufu.

>ME in P4A isn't Nyarly

Does anyone know where Victor is when you need him to read the russian in Raidou 1?

>>78092442
And nobody is surprised.

>>78092753
Holy fuck i'm an idiot, I thought they meant the other russian guy.

>>78089725
Save state then, loser.

Hope you're lvl 11 or higher

>>78091532
If you are already putzing around Valhalla, buy better gear.

>>78093824
I ended up beating him (level 12). Yumiko died, but she has good magic so I'm not too worried.

>it was Ikutsuki all along, no nyarly
I can hear everyone crying

>>78094250
>Ikutsuki
What
Guess that explains the pun-ishment.

>>78094250
>Atlus says they're not going to use P1/P2 characters anymore
>People still keep expecting P1/P2 characters

>>78094436
Where'd they say that?

>>78094250
Where's that said?

>>78094117
I read even dead party members get exp, but I dunno.

>>78095110
They don't, she stayed at level 11 and Nakajima is at 17 now. I'm not concerned at the moment since I can just level her up later on.

>>78094250
But that nigga dead

>>78095418
Can't Nyarly revive people?

>>78095481
nyarly confirmed
persona 4 arena ultimate suplex hold the golden also confirmed

Any word if Megaten Imagine will ever come back to america again? Starting to miss that game.

>>78096349

No. Now fuck off.

>>78087863
Break Record would be 4th, when you think about it. I hope we'll be geting it next year - there were only few months between JAP and US releases, so technically it's possible.
SMT4 will sell so good in EUR that Atlus will reconsider their actions and never make us wait again;_;

I've just come to the point of no return in DeSu:OC, and I'm wondering if I should save Naoya's ending for a subsequent replay if it's that compelling or if I should just go for it now. I've also got Gin, Kaido, and Atsuro's routes open - are they any more or less difficult to acquire than Naoya's?

>>78098840
Overclocked actually came out in NA before it did in Japan.

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sample-bf77f5a6bd258472366b0cf201e10ca8.jpg

lol who uploaded this

??_?????? @p_kouhou · 25m

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>>78099925
If they can upload junk images to the wiki, surely they can help with getting info.

>>78100113
isnt it beadman and his wifey

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>>78100103

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>According to an interview, Kaneko is allegedly a very heavy smoker, sometimes smoking up to 100 cigarettes a day. He was also involved in the Takenoko-zoku dance groups that were prevalent in Tokyo during the 70s and 80s.

>>78100665
>100 cigarettes a day

Damn, good thing he's living it up in the Velvet Room, otherwise he'd probably be dead or have some horrible lung disease.

>>78019225
>Kimiko

Did FeMC get a canon name or is that what ths artist decided to call her?

So guys, just letting you know that /pg/ has the Ground Zeroes ripper guy ripping Arena 2 currently and already posting gorillion spoilers in there. Also yesterday he said he's hated on /smtg/ because of tulpas, so you know who that is.

>>78101605
Oh, I still remember that initial discussion about Tulpas and the whole gigantic mess it caused. Good times.

>>78021654
Stop lying, you little fuck.

>>78101605
Tell Canzah that nobody gives a shit about him, and that's not gonna change any time soon.

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Don't suppose Atlus has released any more info on the EU release date of SMTIV? September's coming up real quick.

>>78104024
September has 30 days, faggot.

>>78103602
Aren't the civilians unaware of the demons in the beginning of I?

>>78104348
Yes but a preta tears out a guy's throat like 5 minutes in and it kinda goes downhill from there

shit, like 30 minutes in your mom is killed by a demon who takes her skin and pretends to be her

>>78104348
After the first day, random battles are everywhere - including the mall where people don't really seem to notice.

But, now that I think about it... Are there battles in the Cafe?

>>78105873
wrong thread dummy

>>78100665
Ever since I read that a while ago I'm convinced he died of lung cancer and atlus never bothered to tell anyone.

>>78104024
Expect September 30th
;_;

are those instant kill skills in SMT4 even worth it? i mean they barely ever hit

>>78111136
They are meant to be used against enemies that are weak against them. But no not really in my opinion. I just got all the elements and buffs and debuffs.

>>78019225
Xth for FeMC a qt non canon turboslut

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>>78111136
What are you talking about?
I killed everyone in the Tournament with Arisu.

>>78111136
Mahama is really good when it becomes available, around the Shinjuku segment. Judgement Light is also great for wiping out endgame enemies quickly. Mamudo and Die For Me are slightly worse but still good.

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>>78086048
Orden didn't reply because Orden was not awake.

I don't even remember how I did it. I am not very tech-savvy so I read a tutorial about music editing and ATRAC3+ and stuff.
Dissidia 012 uses the same sound format so the tutorial I read was about changing its music, but the process is the same for P1P. I didn't manage to add working loops, though...

>>78104406
I don't recall his throat getting ripped out originally, but he did die. I think he was dismissed as some creep by another guy in the Mall?

>>78114321
I did it exactly as I do it for Dissidia, and even double checked by replacing a track in Dissidia and it works, but when I use the very same .at3 I made and replace in P1P, the game crashes when it reaches the point of loading the track.
So do fucking tell how you did it, step by step, what programs, how did you loop etc, please.

>>78113949
>Mamudo and Die For Me are slightly worse but still good.
What makes you write that?

>>78105162
I don't believe there are demons in the Cafe?

>>78117204
I'm actually just playing it and they are demons everywhere. Even in the cafe which is funny because there are actual people there you can talk to normally after the battle.

>>78103602
I've never understood responses like "that was the best thing I've seen you type ever."

I remember I went to tumblr once. I saw many replies like "That the best thing I've read in the history of forever." It seems so... dumb.

>>78117113
Aah, I think I know what may be the problem.
Since P1P has that LBA protection thingy you have to export the file list BEFORE modifying the game and import it after changing files.
I am pretty sure I didn't need to do anything else.

>>78019914
Titania, Cu Chulainn and Cait Sith.
Damn I miss them. Thanks, asshole.

>>78117846
People have different ways of expressing joy or amusement at statements.

>>78117846
It is.
And please don't use that word here, thanks for blackboxing it though.

>>78019225
>>Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei 1 & 2
>http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,6058.0.html
Can't anyone actually upload patched roms?

>>78118292
No. Do it yourself you lazy asshole.

>>78118292
Stop asking to be spoon fed.

>>78118292
Well, that's illegal, which some forums have issues with. Don't want to get in any trouble.
Besides, it's not like patching is rocket surgery.

>>78117119
More enemies are resistant to them, and I can't verify this, but it feels like the success rate is lower too.

>082314_F Fixes:
>Fixed bug causing Devil Analyzer to crash the game when Azazel's entry is visible.
>Some modifications to MT2's fusion tutorial text to be more accurate.
It's only been a few weeks, and the translator's possibly almost done.

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What if this became the new talk theme in next SMT game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsthd0lYoP4

>>78111136
i preferred using damage stuff with a chance of instakill, like occult slash and sheer cold

>>78092753
try the summoners bar

>>78119452
I'd kill myself because it would mean that Meguro died like Kaz.
The track isn't bad though,

>>78119452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTXGL0xPyLA

>>78085778
Time to make one yourself.

>>78095006
>>78094498
Guy from neofag posted pics and spoilers.

>>78121184
I'm not believing it until it's released in the US.

>>78118292
Maybe after the final patch is done, otherwise it'd just be too much of a pain to keep the link updated. For now, just patch it yourself.

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>>78121307

>>78121184
>neogaf
You mean Neogaf is stealing our fucking rip from /pg/ and claiming as their own.