World of Darkness / Vampire the Masquerade General /WoDG/
Thread #22 - Anarchs Edition
This is a thread for discussing the various games from the World of Darkness series, namely the Vampire: The Masquerade games and the Hunter: The Reckoning games, as well as the whole universe the games take place in.
Get in here. Talk about your favorite clan, insult inferior clans, discuss your fan theories, or just tell us which vampire girl you want introduce to your wooden stake (literal or metaphorical).
Don't hesitate to ask questions, Between all of us here, we've got a good amount of knowledge of the lore and PnP games in addition to the vidya.
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.sorcery.net&channel=%23WoD_VG - IRC channel
http://www.sbock.net/upload/VTMBup90.exe - Latest version of Wesp's patch, 9.0
http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/ - Deb of Night to cheer you up and a dark and stormy night
https://mega.co.nz/#!logziCbJ!Ib1YCQ1LaDGTimNMPWdH1v-k7j6Q7coE-zy2T8N6Fxk - A fan made CD that includes Deb of Night tracks and in game music
http://vaulderie.bloodlinesresurgencemod.com/ - A mod project to recreate VtM:B in the Unity engine
http://sheetgen.dalines.net/wiki/WikiStart - Character sheet generator for the PnP games.
http://pastebin.com/JfM7d2Ve - V:tM books, including art and clanbooks
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kJRVxazI!NeJ9qTH_8Khu0NIx7saL-A - leaked pictures and information about the cancelled MMO
Nobody likes the Kue-Jinn.
How do I make sure WESP's mod was correctly installed?
I'm asking because I didn't notice any graphical changes (even thought shaders normally) and looking into the folder there isn't any new file or anything mentioning the mod.
It should say in the upper left corner of the character creation screen.
Might be able to be seen in the character screen ("c") as well, though I can't remember.
Has anyone else noticed the changes in facial animations WESP made? Not with new animations, but just putting other ones in situations they weren't before? Suddenly fucking everyone and their mother is pulling Bennet's smirk on me and it's pissing me off because it doesn't make sense in context at all. Why would you change that?
I'm not even sure what version I have, but I've got Jack smirking at me and holding it and there's shit like pic related
Check the left corner of your character sheet, as here:
That said, I don't think it's a new addition. I'm trying to visualize it in my mind and I think the smirk has always been an idle facial animation while the NPC waits for your dialogue choice.
I could be completely wrong though, haven't played in a while.
Daily Reminder : Bend the knee or be destroyed.
For what purpose? Also... I'm wondering how he "restores" so many things, after so many versions of his patch. Surely he would have run out of unused files by now.
Don't get me wrong, wesps seems like a nice guy. I haven't seen him beat his chest and declare how great he is, and honestly his only flaw is that he seems to enjoy doing this too much to quit.
We're probably giving him a pretty unwarranted bad rap, but... hey, fuck him for releasing the mess that is 9.0 :)
As of 8.6 you can use bloodbuff while lockpicking (you need to start lockpicking first, then activate bloodbuff). I assume that's why you want it for as I can't think of another use for bloodbuff while in Elysium.
I haven't tried it with 9.0 yet, though.
One thing I love about the game is that literally everyone hates LaCroix.
Like, even the taxi driver. If you say you want to side with him, he just goes "Are you sure? He's kind of an enormous tool..."
Hey there fellow kindred, I'm slowly but surely making a Bloodline-like game, more cyberpunk than anything. I've prepared the skills and classes, and a lot of interesting stuff. It will include some cyber-Dhampir because I can't resist hehe, with the usuall hacking, cyberspace elements, and some "horrortech" so that I can have some proper monster-player. Right now graphics aren't that great since I'm working alone on this but that's alright. I'll have some friend that will help with the testing. I'm not planning on selling but I'll let you guys enjoy it when I have something ready.
Anyways, I hope you're all having a good time.
and yeah the graphics are not super, a little bland, I'll had proper textures and a lot more decoration and destructible when possible, I'm just using this "industrial" are for testing.
That's because the taxi driver knows what LaCroix intends to do with the sarcophagus. And he already knows the outcome, regardless of being a Mad Malk or Caine.
Everyone else is just a hater. Anarchs are understandable, but everyone else is just jellin'.
This looks pretty neat. What program are you using?
I wouldn't do the newbie test...
Look through the clans and see which most appeals to you, but it's a good idea to stay away from Malkavian (because the dialogue might confuse the fuck out of you) and Nosferatu (because it sucks being a Nosferatu).
I have the latest wesp patch installed and I hate it that he moved shit around.
Wich one should I install? I only need the cut content and fixes.
Also, are saves compatible? If I downgrade my game, I mean.
Noclip if you must. While the sewers are annoying, they're not that bad. But it's acceptable to noclip. It's like using a FAQ for Forbidden Siren 1. No one will look down on you.
If you include Camarilla Edition when you patch (which comes with Clan Quest), you can do a quest to skip the sewers entirely.
Here's a few issues with Camarilla Edition, though:
1. You don't heal as fast naturally (which is okay - it gives you a "blood heal" discipline you can raise).
2. The game knocks off a blood point every 4 minutes + 1 minute per stamina, I believe. Even in dialogue. If you've played the game through enough times that you don't mind skipping the dialogue, this is okay, but if you wanna read all the dialogue and stuff it's very annoying.
If you decide on CE, there's a quest that has you follow Tung through the sewers and where you can skip the sewers entirely.
Or you can just noclip through the entire level, by means of the console.
>2. The game knocks off a blood point every 4 minutes + 1 minute per stamina, I believe. Even in dialogue. If you've played the game through enough times that you don't mind skipping the dialogue, this is okay, but if you wanna read all the dialogue and stuff it's very annoying.
you can remove this in a cgf though
Nah, I only got the base edition.
Call me casual, but I think having my blood going down over time will just be more tideous than fun.
and I can't belive I didn't think about using noclip.
Neither is Venus. Heather as well... ghouls don't qualify as Kindred.
To top that off, are Bloodlines considered Kindred? You see, the term was developed as a replacement for Cainites, but Cainites refer to the children of Caine. If this is the case, then can Tremere truly be considered Kindred? They are not direct descendants of Caine, and therefore they cannot be called Kindred.
Check and mate, atheists.
>are Tremere Kindred
They are, for all intents and purposes, the same species. If it Torpors like a Kindred, drinks blood like a Kindred, and burns like a Kindred, it's a fucking Kindred.
So odd question, because it's going to come up in the Wednesday game. If I encounter someone and decide to make them my ghoul, would I have to spend the XP to make them my ghoul?
Also, what Discipline do you guys think I should invest into? Auspex 1, Obeneration 1, or wait another week for enough to buy Dementation 4?
I was thinking about the XP because during character creation you can "buy" a ghoul in your backgrounds. Didn't know if I'd have to use that for the ghoul now.
And no, I meant Obeneration. I'm thinking about taking it, because playing with shadows + Passion could really work wonders. I was going to ask the Lasombra antitribu in our coterie to teach me.
Be sure to have the Prince's permission before making a ghoul.
Get obteneration if you can, though I know it costs more due to being a new out of clan discipline. Choke those air breathers like it aint not thing.
Steer away from Dementation. Dementation a shit. What sort of 4th level Discipline makes you roll against your own attack? Seriously, V20, you dun dropped the ball on this one.
No, you don't buy Backgrounds in play. You earn them through your actions. That's why they're so cheap during character creation. Easy come, easy go.
>What sort of 4th level Discipline makes you roll against your own attack
Dementation, that's what.
Well, while getting the Prince's permission is a good thing, it really depends on the precedence set so far by him/her. If the Prince is strict, ask ASAP. If the Prince is lax in terms of ghouls, go nuts. And get Shadow powers
>implying any princes are lax when it comes to ghouls and siring
anarch free state 2014
vote for your local baron in the coming election today
I've found Dementation to be pretty meh so far. Passion can be very useful, but it's almost like playing Russian Roulette at the same time.
Haunting is nice, but the effects aren't immediate. If I'm willing to put the time into some long term dickbaggery, I could see me using it more, but the oppertunity really hasn't presented itself yet. If anyone has other suggestions as how to use it, I'm all ears.
I love Eyes of Chaos. While it's main use is to determine someone's nature and shit, the wording of the discipline also lets it function as kind of a divining rod as well. Pretty much the reason I specced into the discipline in the first place.
While I'm not keen on having to make my own frenzy test if I use Dementation 4, it is at a reduced difficulty. I could see it being useful, but I can also see it biting me in the ass at the same time.
Good to know.
Obeneration was my first choice, but if I really wanted to be credit to team we really need someone with Auspex, which is why I'm contemplating it.
Thought of a Giovanni character concept that might be interesting, but, like I've said before, my schedule is always changing (gotta love employers when they say, "if you want a fixed schedule, you're gonna lose hours.")
Still... this concept... eh, might work? Given Giovanni's neutral stance in terms of sects. The character could come and go from session to session, acting as a mediary between the Giovanni and the Camarilla? Which might explain why sometimes I show up and sometimes I don't...
I dunno, just an idea. Don't wanna step on any toes or ruin what's already going for the coterie. If you're around, Spencer, lemme know what you think.
Might be for the best, since Grav can still manipulate the shadows on his own right now, and roleplaying my teaching makes sense. It's just so damned tempting though.
If that. And that's also the other part about investing into Obeneration. Can't spend those points unless he agrees to show me the techniques.
>Just found out the sarcophagus needs a key
>Prince told me to murder the hell out of some Sabbat and kill their leader
>This is the hardest mission so far
Fuck me, I got up to the teleporting ladies and then my game crashed.
Short answer: Dice rolls, roleplaying, and the power of imagination.
Long answer: You make a character using the creation rules in whatever setting you're running. Then come up with a history, background, that sort of thing. Then just play your character. You'll roll dice as needed. Your storyteller should tell you when.
If you wanna see it in action to get a feel for it, see it in action and whatnot, you can sit in and observe our Wednesday game .
To be fair, only being social in any hostile environment is a poor idea. Also just picking the blue text to win is kinda boring.
I guess I never had it bad, my first run was a nos and I only went stealth and melee because nos dont need talking.
Kind of annoying how the sabbat in the hotel can see through invisibility for no reason. Stealth becomes much less viable late game.
Am I the only one who thinks Nosferatu life seems really comfy?
Just underground with your buds getting paid mad moolah by the prince to find info for them. When you aren't doing that you just steal a pizza and play some games with everyone.
I FUCKING HATE CCP
Srsly, if I could I would slap that motherficking CEO to death.
Motherfucker, during YEARS he stole ppl from WoD, specially for the Dust 514 (WHICH WAS A FUCKING FLOP)
And then when the years revenue came and he lost 21M, instead of cutting on EVE, he cuts WoD.
FUCK HIM SO FUCKING MUCH
I know... I know...
I just figured it couldn't hurt. Toss it up on the WW message boards, see what could happen. Maybe if they see enough interest in the game they'd reconsider?
Who the fuck am I kidding?
fucking shit mission is pissing me off.
Stuck at explosive beginings. The 2 vampires that bars your retreat at the end are invincible.
They deal massive damage, Have more than 100 life each and I need to kill the second one to open the locked door which is BS.
What the heck can I do?
The one where you must blow up the warehouse, in the first city.
Lots of thugs to kill then 2 boss vampires.
There's no skills whatsoever to get here. I completed all the other quest I could and I'm stuck in this level anyway.
I actually managed to kill the first one with skills but now my health is too low and I can't regenerate since it counts as heavy damage for some reason.
Playing the toreador but doesn't matter. I'm stuck and starting over is out of the question.
Still pissing me off that there's no way to get past this motherfucker than killing him and he deals massive amount of punishment
You are playing with the shittiest clan for fighting idd.
But still not being able to go through its your fault, you are probably slightly retarded... but since I'm in a good mood I'll help you out.
You have presence, which reduces the strengh of your opponents, use it and then shoot him with a shotgun (3-4 shots close range and he is gone)
You can also use celerity and get the fuck away from the 1st and the 2nd and then only kill the 3rd a bit further on.
Anyway, during the warehouse level you get plenty shotgun ammo, put it to good use and you are good to go.
Additionally I can't open the console to cheat my way out because the douchebag developers attached it to a key that's missing on half the world's keyboards.
>You have presence, which reduces the strengh of your opponents, use it and then shoot him with a shotgun (3-4 shots close range and he is gone)
No shit I go all out everytime I try to defeat him. Celerity+presence+bloodbuff.
He can withstand 6 close range shots with the shotgun.
I also skipped the first one, was p. easy.
The second one is mandatory to kill or else the fucking door won't unlock
>shittiest clan for fighting
Toreadors are one of the best, if not the best clan for use with firearms in the game. There is no "shittiest clan for fighting" in Bloodlines, just different styles and approaches.
The game suffers from a lot of pathfinding and colision bugs.
When they appear you have a to your left, the door outside (broken by the 1st sabbat) and some stairs back to the office where you planted the bomb.
try to glitch the game if you can't kill them like a any other normal person can and did 'till now.
Toreador are shit single handed, I am not saying they can't use fire arms or deal with the game.
But single handed (not ammo dependant) they are shit
Even tremere does a better job, due to bloodshield n shit
>When they appear you have a to your left, the door outside (broken by the 1st sabbat) and some stairs back to the office where you planted the bomb.
I don't understand what you're saying here. I got passed the one who breaks the door. What I can't do is kill the one who's death will trigger an exit door to unlock.
The door which wasn't locked before gets magically locked and you need to beat the vampire to magically get it to open.
u can try to go over the train and down again.
I finished the game twice with toreador, I don't even know why the fuck you can't kill a npc that never gave trouble to anyone.
Besides, you will kill plenty of those further into the game
>Besides, you will kill plenty of those further into the game
hopefully I will boost my stats a little bit more and wield better weapons than a knife
>u can try to go over the train and down again.
not entirely sure which one but will try right now, I got one spot in my mind where I could do just that.
>I finished the game twice with toreador, I don't even know why the fuck you can't kill a npc that never gave trouble to anyone.
He does heavy damage that can't regenerate.
He's got a huge life pool and I haven't invested in fighting skills that much.
He's missing his left arm and swings a right arm at you. It isn't his arm unless he had an interesting anatomy even before he went amputation crazy.
The transformation is supposed to be extremely painful and tends to create derangements in certain people. Also the whole stigma against you and your big brothers trying to kill and eat you could be bothersome. Also living in a sewer can't be nice no matter what you do to it.
I usually have trouble in combat early on because I focus on social skills first at the expense of combat. The two kindred in the warehouse were only difficult the first time around, but the Blood Guardian at the Gallery Noir and to a lesser extent the Cathayan are often a pain in the ass because of how fleeble my characters are at the time. The guy with a shotgun in the warehouse office also needs to be approached with caution.
Since the Op doens't have a mod paste, may I ask which mode I should use for a second playthrough (My first one was years ago as a vanilla Toreador)?
>Camarilla - Updated March 2014
>Clan Quest - Updated Jan 2012, includes (older?) Camarilla and more
>Final Nights - Updated April 2014, seems way too overhaul?
I'm thinking about roling a Nosferatu this time.
Didn't you know they don't sweat?
Well they CAN sweat but its all bloody, the eyeballs are still "watery" enough I guess. Or are they as dry as salty over cooked meat balls?
They're just going to sit on the licence, if things get worse for CCP financially it's an asset they can sell off without expending money on the expensive business of developing a game. Sad, but that's why lots of games are stuck in limbo.
Ok here's an experiment: take a clean change of clothes you don't particularly like and hang them up on something outside for a week or so. Then take them down and see if they seem wearable.
Hanging them up on something for a week isn't really a comparable substitute to a body that doesn't sweat and doesn't secrete any body oils whatsoever(which is why fingerprinting kindred doesn't work particularly well) wearing that same outfit for a week. Just the act of walking around will ensure the fibers of a shirt doesn't stiffen up due to incidental environmental dirt and dust. Also, the clothes a kindred wears typically never sees the light of day so that also skews the comparison.
Wasn't a WoD game, but I was in a game yesterday and none of the other players did anything besides stand there and wait for the demon summoner cannibals to come and attack us.
God damn guys, if I have any advice to you for playing games, DON'T SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN!
why didn't you tell said player to shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone's time. Your group was cool with this dialogue?
Pic related is other players besides my buddy and myself.
I told them it was pointless and then decided to talk to my buddy IC for a long ass time before we got yelled at BECAUSE SUPER SERIOUS MOMENT! WE'RE GONNA BE ATTACKED!
In reality, I was like level 9000 Goku compared to the cannon fodder that was on that ship. Could have soloed them all without breaking a sweat.
doesn't the sun cause final death by burning though? Which would be mitigated by the water?
Or would this basically cause the whole lake to turn into steam and then the vampire trying to be a clever bastard burns anyway?
They could get a heavy tarp and get underneath it imo.
The vamp burn instantly , and thus, not at the boiling temperature of water or something like that. I assume that a ray of light would still burn the flesh even if it goes through water. It ain't shielding the vamp
Dousing a vampire with water isn't gonna save him from the rays of the sun, even indirect sunlight is a problem. They'd still flare up, but it wouldn't necessarily cause the water around it to boil away or evaporate any more than normal.
It's actually a decent way of offing a vampire you don't like and leaving zero evidence behind since the water would take care of the resulting ashes.
so about indirect sunlight being a problem, does that mean reflected off of a mirror?
I haven't been under the impression that a recording of sunlight or a simulation of it through ultraviolet rays doesn't have the actual effect of being exposed to the sun. Is there anything official about that published?
wrote this and then saw
Although if it has to do with the strength of the rays... being underwater might work if they could get down to where the light is just feint enough to be equal to how much is present at night. Wouldn't be worth the effort to do though, fucking it up would be too easy
>Although if it has to do with the strength of the rays... being underwater might work if they could get down to where the light is just feint enough to be equal to how much is present at night. Wouldn't be worth the effort to do though, fucking it up would be too easy
There's an entire book on that topic.
You need to be at least a few hundred feet down for protection
If a crazy person is embraced by a Malkavian do they keep their mental illness, replace it with a new one or do they now have two deferent types of madness?
What do the Order of Hermes and the other Traditions think of house Tremere, are they seen as deserter, tartars or fools for giving up potential omnipotence?
This one just started.
>what's-her-face has a KMFDM shirt
God damn, that artist knew what he was doing.
I'll just, leave this here.
Are your posts always of such a high caliber?
I've been looking for the patch to add the library map to the clan quest mod
the problem is, the file front link is missing, while the planet vampire link is corrupt. anyone know a working download or have a copy of the patch they are willing to upload?
i wouldn't mind if female gangrel looked like this in the game
Wait wait wait
Is this STILL the same series of VtMB/WoD threads that was started a few weeks ago? And you guys are still going? God, Caine, whoever they are with you glorious fuckers. We finally general.
Also...are these WoDO screens? Did someone leak them recently?
The very same threads, though I'd wager it started closer to two months ago. We might not be the fastest general, and we might die briefly every 5 or so threads, but we're here to stay.
And those are WoDO screens. They got leaked, as well as the alpha manual. We have a link to it in the OP if you wanna check it out.
Have some erotic fiction:
Steve was a man who liked his vampires like he liked his women: Powerfully erotic.
Luckily, he was in luck! There was a vampire in front of him who was very erotic. If you were to rank her eroticness from 0 to 10 she would be a 10 probably. Her body was very "hot" in the metaphorical sense and Steve liked thinking sex-ideas about it. What would it be like to, you know, have sexual relatios with her? He kinda wanted to find out!
He decided to straight-up ask her to seduce him so he'd be naked and "ready" for sex. But the vampire bit him on the neck instead! It was not erotic. Those bites KILL YOU. How is that sexy? A dude died: put your boner away. God. Show some respect.
Back from the bannage, mofuckas.
And feelin' real down cause a hot chick at work is married. And so our flirting means nothing. Or if it means something and I bang her, I'll just feel bad cause she's not just some ho I wanna bang.
I wish I was just a vampire so I could ghoul her, BOOM, probably solved. Anyone who thinks being an oWod vampire is a curse is a straight goofball I tell ya what
I got banned once for posting the CLEGANEBOWL pasta. Mod at the time said it was spam. Went right to IRC and got it taken care of. Also been banned quite a few times on /tv/ for this.
Lord knows if I knew the shitstorm that this eventually became I never would have done it. Like Bart in Australia, my frog got out of control.
Theory about Robert Strong and The Faith's Champion
that's FUCKING CONFIRMED! GET READY! GET HYPE!
It wasn't the original picture used during the pre season 3 countdown, but it was my favorite one. Only reason I used it originally was because that day 4chan was fucking up and people could only post .gifs, and God forbid I didn't post. Fuckin gif even made it into a pasta as well.
I can't find the original CLEGANEBOWL one, but it was just the simple one that was like:
Robert Strong = Undead Mountain
Faith's Champion = newly repentant Hound
That one, the one that originally associated ELO's showdown with the thing.
The other one I actually have.
“I looked for you in the /cel/ discussion thread,” Stannismod said to them.
“We were not there,” Ser Firefu answered.
“Woe to Moot if we had been,” said Ser Buttslut.
“When the General was deleted, the mods slew your waifus with a golden banhammer, and I wondered where you were.”
“Far away,” Ser Firefu said, “or we'd still be posting, and our false brother would burn in seven 404's.”
“I came down on /got/ to lift the siege,” Stannismod told them, “and the Lords CLEGANEBOWL and Eurio dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”
“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Frogfu.
“Ser Rickonbro is fled to /y/, with that boy he swears he didn't molest. I thought you might have sailed with him.”
“Ser Rickonbro is a shitposter and true,” said Ser Buttslut.
“But not of the Waifuguard,” Ser Firefu pointed out. “The Waifuguard does not flee.”
“Then or now,” said Ser Frogfu. He donned his helm.
“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Firefu.
Stannismod's janitors moved up beside him, with shadow banhammers in hand. They were seven against three.
“And now it begins,” said Ser Frogfu, the Sword of Firsts. He unsheathed Ellie_shopping.gif and held it with both hands. Her skin was pale as milkglass, alive with light.
“No,” Stannismod said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”
>reading the crappy GoT books
>coming up with theories about crappy GoT
>implying it doesn't fit
Thank God for /WoDG/ though. Haven't been back to /got/ since. Season 4 didn't help much either.
Do the Kuei Jin have any sort of clan sigil like the others? This is all I could find and I don't even know if it's correct.
No he is Ganondorf.
Unless Ganon is a vampire.
Yeah, they do. It's in their book.
Or rather, each of the Kuei-Jin paths have their own sigil. If you meant the Kuei-Jin as a whole, then no. They're not a vampire clan.
The Kuei'Jin are not vampires, or rather, they are not Cainites like the PC and the clans in Bloodlines. The Kuei'Jin is their own "race", with different origins and mechanics. This is why noone likes them in Bloodlines(and I'm pretty sure Ming tells you this too).
This is one of those games that I've tried so many times to play through and have gotten bored of so many times that I don't think I'll ever be able to finish it due to knowing too well what happens in the parts I've played so often.
Sounds like fun guys to party with. Too bad Cainites and Kuei-Jin don't get along.
Can I play 9.0 though? It is that bad? I read some of vague criticisms in this thread and the smirking thing. But I read the changelog for 9.0 and he seemed to make a few interesting changes and bugfixes in it and I'd hate to miss out on all of those made between 7.6 and 9.0.
Don't bother. There's not any critical fixes and a whole LOT of shit. Trust me, I don't like not playing with the "latest" version of patches either, but when you start including bullshit changes for the sake of changes like Youtube did... yeah, fuck that.
9.0 is mostly playable. There was a bug that replaced the Ventrue Domination dialog with Dementation choices, but I think that's been fixed now. It's more that things have been moved around and "fixed" by Wesp so much that the game's atmosphere has been effected, especially the hotel.
Avoid 9.0. I did a recent playthrough of it, and it has added nothing good. Plenty of bad, though.
>Dialogue choices have been altered
>Ventrue Domination has errors
>Ocean House Hotel have changes that ruin subtlety
>Big ass room at Hallowbrook Hotel that feels extremely jarring and unfinished
The changes aren't new scares, just underlining of existing ones. Like the ghost in the boilerrom - instead of being a "Wait, did I just see that?" moment, it's now announced with a "creepy" laugh so there's no surprise involved.
dat face, fukken saved
I remember that thread, he was making a deal with a fae creature, never a good idea
Watched a playthrough for it and I have no idea how are you supposed to know any ?? that shit
Nice, this is a new one
Why is the Beckett/female Malk is such a popular pairing? I see a lot more fanart of them than the other characters
There already was a petition... didn't do shit afaik. Now there's a fan community trying to do their own MMO but I don't know.. I want them to succeed but they're doing it for free and imagine the scale of it
Actually they do drown and can sink very quickly if they're not careful
hm, sounds interesting... might check it out
Oh god that artwork, those legs
Anyway, I'll just wait till the new thread to post my Changeling adventures if anyone's interested
Eh, why not then. I already have it all typed before on tg so you won't have to wait for too long.
First of all, since this is mostly Bloodlines general, I think I should briefly explain what Changeling: The Lost is. It's nWoD and it's almost universally agreed to be one of the best things made for nWoD.
You were a normal human being when something abducted you. Usually you have no idea why you were abducted. The creature that took you is one of the True Fae - eternal creature of humanity's dreams and nightmares who are devoid of anything humane and their whole point of existence is to amuse themselves by kidnapping new slaves (they are based on the fairfolk)
You are taken to Arcadia, a world where the True Fae dwell. Each of them is infinitely powerful in their domains and can make whatever the hell they want - their domain can be made of air, water can be the color of violet and gravity can be 10 times weaker than on Earth.
In Arcadia you were kept as a slave to this monster and subjected to its whims. The way you served your captor reflected what you eventually mutated into in order to survive in Arcadia.
Elementals were used as inanimate objects or forces of nature during their captivity. You maybe served the place as the wind or as a lamp near the bed of your Keeper.
Fairest were the prettiest and served as diplomats, concubines, handmaidens.
Beasts were fused with animals physically and instinctively, they were treated as animals.
Darklings usually didn't served their Keepers, they were just toyed with. They were constantly subjected to fear, trained to fear both silence and noise (my pc is one)
Wizened served as various workers - chefs, maids, butlers. Sure, True Fae don't really need them since it's their world and they can do what they please but the Keepers (another name for them) enjoy torturing humans, being complete sociopaths.
Ogres were constantly beaten and physically tortured and were often forced to partake in cannibalism. They had to become strong to overcome their captors.
The game is about a group of humans (now called changelings) who managed to escape Arcadia and now try to adapt to the human world. This might be difficult because nobody knows how much time has passed in the human world. Maybe 1 minute that felt like an eternity in Arcadia, or 50 years that felt like an instant in the fae world.
And the worst thing is, when the True Fae kidnapped you, it left something behind, so as not to raise any suspicions. It left a fetch - your living double made out of magic and your own shadow. The fetch might or might not know what it is. Some of them end up as worse than the originals, some of them actually become better people than the humans they imitate - better fathers, more successful workers, etc. So of course when changeling comes back and sees that someone was living his life while he was suffering the reaction is rarely neutral.
pic - my Keeper
I should also mention that changelings still look human to humans, even if their true forms warped by the fae magic may look completely inhuman, pic related. Though it's still something humanoid because those who spend too much time in Arcadia and lose too much of their human selves can't remember who they are anymore and so can never escape.
There are also rumours that those changelings who lose their contact with humanity while growing in fae power can turn into True Fae themselves...
Now for the story
Well, I am finally done with my Changeling downtime that we had to postpone 3 times. Prepare for story-time about me acting like a True Fae and thinking it was completely justified (which was hilarious because I thought what I was doing was completely ok OOC as well)
So the ST is swamped with IRL work and so he asked us to come up with only 2 things we want to do. One thing I chose is to finally go and check up on my fetch in Amsterdam. Our game is ending, so this seemed appropriate.
So I travel there (via Hedge but not before the GM wanted me to solve the riddle based on a nursery rhyme, until he realized that English nursery rhymes are English and don't exist in other cultures) and find out that she's a CEO of a pharmaceutical company. My pc before she was abducted always wanted to be someone important, so now the fetch is exactly that.
(the Hedge is a place between human world and Arcadia and so can be quite dangerous)
So I go into the building, pretend I'm her which allows me to just go to her office on the top floor. I knock on the door and come in. I was expecting a reaction. Instead I got a quick greeting as my clone asks me what do I want. I try to act all mysterious and shit, asking why is she not surprised that I look like her while at the same time trying to see if she's hiding her true feelings or not. She says that just because I look a bit like her it doesn't mean that I can just barge in here without an appointment. She either had no idea or was in deep denial. So she calls the security and I allow myself to be escorted out because I didn't want to seem threatening.
This didn't go as expected, so I just follow her to her home (which was very nice and luxurious, let me add, while I had Resources 1). My vice was Envy as well, which was very appropriate. I love Eternal Autumn 4 and I will mention it a couple more times because fuck yeah I can turn into leaves thanks to it, so getting into her place was nothing. I decide to wait until she's asleep and then I hide under the bed as leaves.
At this point the ST and I are making the pic related jokes because it really did turn into this - me trying to force the fetch into accepting what I am and what she is.
So I lie under her bead like a creepy sta- like a True Fae, corrected the ST, and I want to get into her dreams because I thought the situation would be easier to control. That's when the ST reminds me that fetches don't dream at all (they don't have souls)
So I have enough Clarity to realize that waking her up is not the smartest thing, so I have nothing else to do but fall asleep under her bead.
I wake up, hear her in the kitchen and decide that it's time I show her some magic. I activate the Ice shield and slowly come in to the kitchen.
She freaks out, screams horribly, backs into a corner and grabs a knife. I try to stay calm, though I am beginning to feel slightly irritated. I sit on the chair and tell her that I am the original who was abducted by a monster. She calls me a psycho and a freak. I tell her that she should believe me and to demonstrate this, I wither the fruit on the table. I then ask her again, if she's ready to listen. She freaks and it looks like she is ready to attack. I sigh, slowly stand up and leave but not before telling her that I will visit her again when she's calmed down. I hear sobbing as I leave, I then leaf (ha!) behind to see what happens next.
I see an ambulance arrive and they take her. I get stuck to the ambulance, and get to the hospital. I hear nurse saying she seems to be having a mental breakdown.
cont'd and I think the thread is sinking either way since it only jumps to page 4
At this point I'm really irritated because she's, in my opinion, over-reacting completely. Why is she freaking out so much? It's not like I came to kill her, I just showed her my abilities and said I wanted to talk to her, she's not even seeing my Mien. This train of thought greatly amused my ST who said that I'm thinking like a True Fae.
So I turn into a nurse and start thinking how can I talk to her without her freaking out again.
I spend 5 minutes looking through my contracts and trying to figure what kind of power I can use to calm her down. Too bad I'm not Spring court, maybe if I had a token that could relax someone.... and then it hits me that I'm in the HOSPITAL. The fact that I wasn't even considering human medicine kinda cemented the idea that I'm starting to act like a Fae.
So I get the medicine, though it wouldn't allow the person to talk, it will just put them into a stupor, which was good enough because I wanted her to listen to me.
I sneak in, see her sleeping and at this point start doubting. Do I really need her that much? My initial plan was to unite our forces, because that will help me overthrow the current Autumn king and take his place.
But at this point the fetch is useless since she acts completely unreasonable and abnormal, freaking out over magic.
I start thinking - I could just kill her and eat her heart. Gives me her company with all the money, gives me her essence (xp) and I no longer have to worry about her becoming a servant of the True Fae.
After a couple of agonizing minutes I decide against it. Mainly because my pc is really trying to achieve power without horrible sacrifices and this would ruin all she tried to do and set her back being what she was (she had a Black&White morality flaw before the in-game events changed that)
I wake her up while still looking as the nurse and give her the medicine. So she is now relaxed but unable to speak. I turn into myself again and see how her eyes widen in terror. This already pisses me off but I try to calm down. I crouch next to her and plead to her that I need her help and that lives of innocents like her and me are at stake because there's an insane tyrant who is a danger to us all.
The ST makes me roll with a -4 penalty, I spend WP and get successes on all the dice. She manages to speak and asks me if it's true and does that mean she's no insane. Finally. I tell her again that I don't want to harm her and that if she comes with me to help me, she will find some very profitable and magical items she could take advantage of.
I then do something I might regret in the future - I unlock her fae powers.She now has the opposites of the powers I have, but the threat is that if the Keeper finds out about her, it can easily take control of her.
And that's it
It is. I managed to persuade my ST to run it by aimlessly blabbering about the random stuff I remembered from reading the book years ago.
But Changeling can also attract really obnoxious players, since one of the main themes is abuse.
But man I love the fae feel of the game. And all the powers are goddamn amazing
Would Bloodlines make a good TV series or movie? Or would it go down in flames because part of the game is choice?
Don't you be talking shit about my Brujahfu.
Well, there is that, but I get the feeling you could do a lot more. I imagine you could justify ignoring the fetch, or having the character flip out on the people around the fetch for not being able to notice difference between the fake and them. Obviously that isn't rational, but its pretty understandable to flip out about a fake in your place and maybe they heard down the line about the issues with confronting a fetch and decide to pull a Hera.
Kill the weak who might be considered victims because you can't confront the one actually doing things.
i left nosferatu hideout and realized i've been here before
Any word on if there is a download of this yet?
God I can't stand that art stye in Kindred of the East. Get your manga out of my Masquerade.
At least there are Changeling players. Good luck with Geist which carries the Wraith stigma, which was already the least played game because it was so depressing.
You guys realize that Anarchs are punks from the 90's right?
VtM was based in the 90's. It's really 90's. You're suppose to run the game in the 90's for maximum 90's feel.
When I think "I wish there was a way for me to punch a guy in his face and then steal his face" I don't think 90's; I think silly concept. You...can't really defend that. It's been a huge joke everywhere.
This is why we should have never let the fa/tg/uys in, fellow /v/irginites.
People like Storyteller love IanW so much that they immediately make excuses for inexcusable bullshit.
I remember a time when there was only one tripfag. A man by the name of Loreguy, who dumped lots of goodies and only told storytime once, before realizing nobody really cared so he moved on. A man of virtue, knowledge, and non-faggotry.
And then they came.
First it was Storyteller, better known as "Let me suck yo nWod dick fo a dolla, Ian." A man who ran some Werewolf Vampire hybrid game that made no sense yet he still had the gall to call himself "Storyteller."
Then the namefag known as Pandora came slowly crawling into the mix, fleeing from the cancerous mess known as /tg/'s WoD generals. He tried to escape the cancer, but unknowingly he too was affected. Cat girl magical realm filled into his soul, taking his very essence. A truly tragic tale... for once he was good, like Loreguy, and righteous.
Join with me, my friends. Cleanse the generals of the namefaggeries.
And remember the namefag we lost so long ago, the one called Sheriff, who was probably one of these namefags but fuck that shit to me he's dead ya feel me niggas.
RIP IN PEACE, SHERIFF
ITS GOOD YOU NEVER SAW WHAT THIS BECAME.
Stand with me, my friends.
Let us make these generals beautiful once more.
Come on, /b/rother, you can do better!
LOREGUY APPRECIATION TIME?
I'll make the next thread loreguy appreciation edition y/n
As much as I think Storyteller is a powergaming ultrafaggot and Pandora a slowpoking nitwit that makes Ausbro look like the captain of the debate team it's far more damaging to the general(s) to make a huge deal out of their shenanigans.
Just learn to ignore them, or filter their names if you have willpower issues.